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We're on City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie Hall. And I'm Dan Henson. You know that you find yourself eating when you're not hungry. Is eating a means for escaping worries, troubles or boredom? Are you obsessed with food? If you answered yes to any of these questions, you may be one of many Americans who are compulsive overeaters. We'll have a compulsive overeaters test that you can take at home. And we'll also be joined by two members of the Overeaters Anonymous organization. Cindy and Ray. It's been called a closet sickness. It is alzheimer's disease. I'm t matier and we'll talk about it today. And on the entertainment page, we have two hot groups from england culture club doing miss me blind and musical youth with cheese trouble. We're coming up next with the overeaters Compulsive test when City Line continues. Hi. Really good show. Today with the subject is Overeaters Anonymous and compulsive overeating. And obviously, in order to determine whether or not you, in fact, are a compulsive overeater, you might need to take a little bit of a test. And so I want you to take a second now, sit back, relax. And you might you probably won't need a pencil and a piece of paper, but if you need it, get it real fast, because we're going to give you a compulsive over eating test and we're going to go through it and you can answer yes or no to the questions. And at the end, we're going to tell you how to score yourself. And then following that, we're going to talk to members of Overeaters Anonymous about what to do about our problem. Okay. So we're going to go through the questions one by one and give you an opportunity to respond.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=91.53,205.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Question number one, do you eat when you're not hungry? Answer yes or no. Question number two, do you go on eating binges binges for no apparent reason? Do you go on eating binges for no apparent reason, Yes or no? Question three Do you have feelings of guilt and remorse after overeating? Again, Yes or no? Question number four Do you give too much time and thought to food? Okay. The next day you look forward with pleasure and anticipation to the moments when you can eat alone. Yes or no? Boy, this sounds familiar. Do you plan these secret binges ahead of time? Do you plan these secret binges ahead of time? Yes or no? Another question. Do you eat sensibly before others and make up for it alone? Is your answer? Yes or is your answer no? Question number eight Is your weight affecting the way you live your life? Is your weight affecting the way you live your life? Yes or no? Now, this seems like my question. Have you tried to diet for a week or longer, only to fall short of your goal? Is your answer yes or no? I know what mine is. Is your answer yes or no? Question number ten. Do you resent the advice of others who tell you to use a little willpower to stop overeating? Yes or no? Do you resent the advice of others who tell you to use a little willpower to stop overeating? Okay, the next question. Despite evidence to the contrary, have you continued to assert that you can diet on your own whenever you wish? Despite evidence to the contrary, have you continued to assert that you can it on your own whenever you wish? Yes or no? Doesn't everybody? Question number 12 Do you crave to eat at a definite time, day or night other than mealtime? Do you crave to eat at a definite time, day or night other than meal time? Yes or no? We continue with the compulsive eaters test by asking, Do you eat to escape from worries or trouble? Yes or no? Is there any other reason? Next question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=206.64,353.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Has your physician ever treated you for overweight? Has your physician ever treated you for being overweight? Yes or no? Okay. And the final question to the compulsive over eater's test is, does your food obsession make you or others unhappy? These are the 15 items in the compulsive overeaters test. Now, let me tell you how to score it. If you, in fact, have answered yes to any three of the questions in the compulsive the 15 Overeaters compulsive test, so compulsive, a reader says you are, in fact, a compulsive overeaters. And as a result of that, you want to definitely pay attention to the data. And then you probably also want to continue to pay attention to The Daily Show. If you feel like you're just a little bit overweight and you want a little few tips on how people who are compulsive eaters deal with an overweight problem. In fact, I asked our guests who will come up in just a few moments. How many folks have a problem with overeating? And they said we really don't know. But we would estimate thousands and perhaps a million or two at least. So it means that it's a very serious problem, not only in our own area, but throughout the country as well. So we will continue in just a moment. We'll take a break and come right back with our guests, Cindy and Ray, concerning Overeaters Anonymous and. We're back on the line. And as we said, our topic is Overeaters Anonymous and compulsive eating. And we have two guests. They are Cindy and Ray. And on one hand, we're not giving their last names and we're not showing them from the front so that you can recognize them, obviously, because of the organization, which is called Overeaters Anonymous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=354.48,532.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we must maintain the anonymity of our guest. But we like to welcome them to City Line. Welcome. Thank you. Thank you for being here. And thank you for taking the time to share your experiences with us. I'd like to ask you about your own personal experiences. How overweight were you and when did you realize that you did indeed have a problem? Cindy When I came to L.A., I was about £50 overweight. It's the audience can't see Cindy at home, but it's very difficult to believe that at one point you were £50 overweight. What took you to Overeaters Anonymous as opposed to some of the other fads? Well, I had tried most of the other fads some time in my life, and none of them worked for long. I would lose the weight and then put it back on, plus more. So by the time I came to L.A., it was a matter of nothing else is working for me. This is my last chance. Cindy, why did you eat so much? What do you think made you a compulsive eater? Good question. We believe in that Overeating is a disease and I have this disease and it really doesn't matter why, but it is a disease just like all the other diseases. And you have to learn to live with it, accept it, and do what you can about it. And with L.A., there's a way to recover from the disease. Ray, how about. How about you? What took you to Overeaters Anonymous in the first place? I was like Cindy. I tried a lot of different fad diets and all that. And one day I happened to be in Baltimore County Library and saw we have a book, Overeaters Anonymous, and saw that and took it home and turned to the back of the book before I started reading it and saw the address and the phone number called up and went because I knew I had a problem with food because I couldn't stop eating at certain times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=533.98,638.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, did you ever really try to stop eating? Did you ever did you ever say, look, I'm going too fast today. I'm going to, you know, only eat non carbohydrates, I'm going to only drink grapefruit juice, I'll get the diet and only eat salads. Did you ever try that, Ray? Yeah, I could do that for, you know, a little bit of time. But the problem would be I was like a yo yo. I would lose the weight. And as soon as I was off the diet or whatever or whatever I tried to do, I would put it right back on. So it really didn't serve a purpose. You know, on one hand, you say that overeating or compulsive eating is a disease. How can it be categorized as a disease when it doesn't? Is there anything in the body that triggers it? Is it also physiological or what is it? How does it become a disease? There's talk that there's it's like the body has an allergy to certain foods. And for most of us, sugar, white sugar and white flour tend to trigger a reaction where you can eat a food. Let's take, for example, a cookie. In my life, I've never been able to eat one cookie. I had to continue. And when the diets that I had been on, if they said, okay, you've been good for this long and now you can have a sliver of cake. Cindy never stopped at the sliver of cake, and I never knew what the problem was. What is wrong with me that I can't stop? And that's kind of where we distinguish that maybe it is a disease because there's just a difference between me and a normal eater. Why? Why can I stop? And a normal eater can? What about your own personal life? That aside from the disease aspect, until that's really clarified and define what about your personal life that made you eat? We have a question in the in the compulsive overeaters test that asks whether or not you feel better when you eat or do you eat when you're worried or when you, you know, feel a bit stressful or whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=640.24,754.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What about your own personal life? Did you find food was gratifying when nothing else was centered? I that was it's funny because when I first saw the test, I answered yes to everything except that one, because I refused to admit that I ate over problems. I just claim that I like to eat. And that was that. But as it turns out, yes, food was the way that I reacted to whatever. If I felt lonely or if I felt tired anything. And it was food was the quickest, easiest. If I had a couple of minutes to spare, why not eat? Why not cruise through the kitchen? And it was just that was my favorite leisure time activity. But was it mostly just I mean, was it the munchies? I guess you call when you're eating cookies or cake or whatever, as opposed to sitting down and preparing a meal? I mean, would you take the time to sit down, prepare a meal and just sit there by yourself and just go through it? Rarely did I ever sit. I would wouldn't have the patience to prepare a meal because when the craving would come, I would hop in my car at a 7-Eleven or something. It would take too long to cook a meal or whatever. I would go for convenient things. Yeah, usually junk would is Overeaters Anonymous. And we ask the question, I mean, what, what, what is the purpose of it? Overeaters Anonymous and as we say in our literature, is a fellowship of men and women who share the common problem of compulsive overeating. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop overeating compulsively. Our primary purpose is to help the still suffering compulsive eater. Okay, there's so many other points that we'd like to raise in our discussion concerning Overeaters Anonymous, and we will raise that right after these messages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=755.32,859.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're back on city land. And I do want to point out that The Daily Show is not a live show. They can't use the telephones. They will have the involvement of a very large studio audience today, and that will get them involved in the conversation in just a couple of minutes. I want to bring it back to the subject is Overeaters Anonymous. Our guests are Cindy and Ray, who are members of Overeaters Anonymous. Just before we went away, we were talking about Overeaters Anonymous and what it is, what it is. And in reading some of the literature, it seems like Overeaters Anonymous places a large extent of its of its purpose and its its mission and its meaning on a belief in God. Can an atheist join is anonymous to get something out of it? Right. Right. Yeah. And I believe anybody can. When I came into the program, I really my conception of God, you know, I really didn't have a clear conception. And the programs open in that way that, you know, really open to other people's beliefs, whatever they believe and raised me the 12 steps in order to to to get involved. No BS Anonymous. The 12 steps that one takes are I mean, among them are came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could be stores to sanity admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being. The exact nature of our wrongs humbly as him capital H to remove our shortcomings. I mean that implies a strong belief in a super being. And as I understand, you have to accept this in order to be in a way. Well, not necessarily. The way a way is set up is that you can come in and accept what you like and not accept what you like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1003.74,1098.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These steps are a proven method of recovery for us. It's not necessary that you believe in a God so much as in a superpower. Obviously, relying on myself wasn't working. Cindy go on a diet that wasn't working. So this was another way. Try believing in someone greater than yourself, be it a tree, be a God, be it any higher power that you choose. Okay. We've got a question from the audience. We're going to take it right now. Yes, ma'am. Oh, hello. I'm an impulsive eater, and I like to know what I can do to stop eating so much. I find myself that if I focus me a mile and a half an hour later, I'm ready to eat again. And I've gained all this weight and I can't lose it. Well, that but but, you know, you're a compulsive overeater, which is by any standards designed to be or determined to be a disease as opposed to someone who just likes to eat. Yeah, I just love that food. I think there's a difference because I know I've talked to some of my friends that aren't in the program and they may have eaten what I had eaten, you know, the same amount, but they don't have all the feelings I did after all the guilt and all that they can go on. You know, we say the first step in this program was that your life became a manageable. And, you know, I would have all these guilt feelings and maybe wouldn't go to certain social functions because I felt so horrible about myself, whereas my friend, she would eat this food and go out and have a good time. It didn't stop her life like it did mine. Now, you know, the lady at the microphone has just said something that I think is very interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1099.89,1193.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She says she loves food. Now, is that a part of our problem? We have a love affair with food. She's not by herself, by the way. Now, I would say that most of the people in this world love food. I still love food, but I enjoy eating three moderate meals a day now. I would also say that when food is being shoveled in my face, you pass a point of enjoyment. It's just it's it's an impulse, like you said, as far as how you can get help. We have meetings all over the world and a lot of meetings over 50 meetings in the Baltimore area. We have a hotline that you can call that give you the number later on in the show. But there's lots of people in the organization that help each other. Oh, excuse me. Because there's some way that they can, you know, like stop the craving for this food, even though, you know, you're not hungry, you just go. Yes, yes, go ahead and eat it because you know it's there and you just go ahead and eat it. What would you tell her now before she gets to an Overeaters Anonymous meeting to help her get ready to even attend your meetings about her eating habits and eating compulsion? Okay. You really you don't even have to prepare yourself to come to a meeting. But let's say today we work on a just for today basis. So from right now until the time you go to sleep, if you say just for the day, I will not overeat. And it's suggested that perhaps you plan your lunch and dinner. If you do feel like overeating, call somebody. Go take a walk. Do something other than eat. Don't give in to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1193.58,1288.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And as you come to L.A., you learn even more ways not to give in to the compulsion. And eventually the compulsion leaves. Today, I have no desire to overeat. And that's a miracle because I was one that, you know. Require a lot of willpower. No willpower. We believe we don't have any willpower. I can't help. Thank you for your question. I can't help but but I guess begin to compare what I'm seeing and hearing about Overeaters Anonymous with Alcoholics Anonymous or Drug Users Anonymous, other organizations. I mean, those are debilitating killing kinds of diseases, sicknesses. Overeating is seen as something that is comical that people are seeing, for example, that's something that is fairly comical by the public and to a large extent by themselves. I mean, I had a lady come up to me in the Lexington market yesterday, as a matter of fact, to say to me that I'm fat and I'm happy and you shouldn't come down on fat people. What? What is it That's that that, that I guess is the similarity between obese is Anonymous and Alcoholics Anonymous. How do you when your meetings, for example, our meetings are run the same way as far as comparing us to an alcoholic and drug users, these are all self-destructive people. Okay. Why would anybody abuse themselves to the extent of stomach pains and all sorts of physical ailments, high blood pressure as far as overweight, not being serious, we had a member commit suicide. So you can die from being miserably unhappy and wanting to kill yourself. The there's a self hate Anybody that wants to destroy their body, whether it be with alcohol, drugs or food, there's this self-hate there. And now, you know, it's it's deadly. I would say it's deadly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1289.04,1391.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ray, did you feel the self-hate before you realized that you had a problem and before you came to grips with it? Yeah, before I found out, I was wondering why I felt so lousy about myself and why I couldn't stop eating. And you know, why I was starting to isolate myself. And, you know, I, too, when I was in high school and, you know, before, and I'd see very obese people, I would think it's comical. But when you're stuck in this, you know, hard thing, it's not comical. I mean, so many nights that I just it's like you would spend your whole day, whole night thinking about food and everything resolved around food, all my responsibilities, schoolwork, whatever was put it put aside, you know, studying for an exam I would rather eat than study for that exam. Ray, Ray and Cindy, what were your social lives like? I mean, that seems to be at the crux of this whole thing. What was your social life like before you doing okay? Cindy My social life, I was to the world. I appeared pretty friendly and and happy and sociable and lots of friends. And my weight gain happened during college, and I always appeared happy on the outside. Inside there, when I was by myself, I would just cry and look in the mirror. And what triggered it in college? Oh, probably the freedom to eat. And you know, that's the outside level. That mother wasn't there to give me looks, you know, for what I was eating. But also in college, you have a lot of fears and fears and social situations. Maybe I chose to eat rather than face. I was lonely, alone. I thought I was. But I always had friends, but I always thought I was different from them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1392.04,1496.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Same here. When I was in high school and college, I played sports and all that, and for my first couple years of college, I was, you know, outgoing. I didn't feel I was with my friends, would say I was then I switched majors. And so it was like a change in my life. And that's when this eating problem got real out of control. And but, you know, I think I think it's your attitude and it's how I feel about myself. I mean, my friends don't feel any different about me when I'm, you know, when I was eating or not. But it's how I felt about myself. And it was like a blurred image. I thought they thought I was horrible and all that stuff, which wasn't true. Were you fat children? Ray and then Cindy? No. But I always remember my mom saying, like in the Good Humor Truck would come by because she had a weight problem. You know, you shouldn't eat that. You're going to get heavy. And I also, you know, remember, I can sort of remember sneaking things, too, because the good humor truck will come and I'd hit it at one block and then hit another. You know, things like that and things like that come back. My life wasn't unmanageable. Like it got to be, you know, when I was little, but. Oh, excuse me, Cindy, were you a fat child? I was always maybe five, ten. I would always I started dieting actively in fifth grade. I think I was having different lunches, but I was never very fat. Cindy is very difficult. And I must point this out to the people at home. It's very difficult to believe that Cindy was once obese. Now you lost £50.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1497.44,1583.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How tall are you? Five. Five and a half. How much do you weigh now? Oh, please. Well, you anonymous person. Anonymous, I would say about 136. And and this lady is not fat at this point. So, I mean, have you seen a change in your social life? Yes. Result of that? Yes. The main change is that I like myself today. I think I'm a good person and I do nice things and I'm happy. And I was not happy when I came in. So if nothing else, I'm a happy person. The wait is just a benefit. Okay. We're going to take another question from the audience. Yes, ma'am. Hi. What's your question? How do you stop the 11:00 and 3:00 rush to the vending machines? You know, every day I find myself at 11:00 or 3:00 at work. Yeah. Going to the vending machines and getting those munchies. When I was at school, there was a lot of vending machines, and it would be in between, you know, class breaks and all that. And I just found other things to do, like maybe talking to the people around rather than eating. Or maybe there's someone I haven't kept in touch with on the phone, so I make a phone call instead. Do you know another thing, too, and I wanted to say this at the time the other lady was at the mic, maybe it's also what you eat at a particular time. Maybe instead of going to the vending machine, you might get a piece of fruit or you might munch on some celery or some raisin. You may want to think about that as well. I'm not an authority, but that's just a little bit I'm not so sure that that's what the Reader's Anonymous is all about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1585.66,1680.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, your thing is come to the meetings, participate in an anonymous organization, and have willpower. Now, we don't have willpower. Rely on other people. And as far as what you said, that was the advice that I always got was nibble low calorie things. And again, I would abuse that to the Hill. I we believe that you don't substitute if you feel like eating a cake, don't substitute eating something else. What would you do? You would eat 17 stalks of celery then. Well, I never went so. But you would. Yeah, but, but the main thing is not to substitute food with food. You want to substitute positive behavior, exercise, run in place, talk on the phone, go socialize, read a book. There's just don't use food to fill those time slots that you may have that are free. Oh, I thank you for that correction. Thank you for the question. And we don't have time to finish this whole question, but let's start on it. If I come to an Overeaters Anonymous meeting tomorrow, what's what am I going to see? What's going to go on? You're going to see a roomful of people, fat people. No, that's surprising. They're all different weights. We have not only people with weight problems, we have bulimic and anorexics as well. So the weight you won't. I always thought I'd see a big of women, big fat people. But it isn't like that. You'll see all different weights. The meeting is generally an hour. There's a leader of the meeting, a member that welcomes everybody. Then there's usually a speaker who shares their experience, strength and hope, and then a short discussion. And after the meeting, new comers have a chance to ask questions and look at the literature, things like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1680.76,1781.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. We're going to continue our discussion on Obese Anonymous right after this message. Overeaters Anonymous and their compulsive eating program and how they help people who do have a problem with food. And our guests are Cindy and Ray, and they are behind the screen, of course, to protect their identity, which is one of the tenants of the group. I'd like to ask Ray, concerning now in the material that Overeaters Anonymous Supply, they talk about a recovery program. What is a recovery program? The recovery means that we work one day at a time, which Cindy said, and each day as we're going along, we work more towards breaking away from, you know, the obsession of this food. And that's what it is. You know, you recover. It's not like you're not going to come in and overnight, you know, no longer be a compulsive reader because I'm always going to be a compulsive reader, but I don't have to act on my obsessions. I don't when I think about food, I don't have to go eat food at all. Now, Cindy started us just before the break on what happens at a meeting that did not sound substantive enough to change me. I would think as a person who perhaps as leading proud of what goes on in that meeting, that really turns the person around and gets them to look at food as it ought to be looked at rather than with an obsession. I think, at least from my experience. I know the first meeting I went to the speaker just, you know, just listening to her or him. But this was a her what they've been through that just amazed me. I could relate to that speaker. And I'm after the speaker talks people you know, in the room share and I can usually relate to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1782.01,1983.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But a lot of the support from this group comes not only from the meetings, but we have literature, which is real important and the phone calls and we have sponsors in the program. I have a sponsor that really helps me out a lot. And what the sponsor does, she helps us to plant. You can use her to plan your meals or when things are going good or bad, just to share things with this person. Because obviously when I was over eating, I was not expressing my feelings. They were being shoved down with the food. Now, this way through the other people in the program, we can share our feelings. And then that way the chance of overeating becomes less, at least in my case. Now, you mentioned the speaker being so, so important to your initiation and nobody's anonymous. This is someone standing up giving a testimonial. It's a person that was asked by the group to come and share so that Ray Allen Ray could speak in a meeting. I could speak at a meeting. And it's suggested to try six meetings or so before you make that decision, you're not going to learn the secrets. The first time it took me close to a year to finally get the food the way I liked it. Okay. We've got a question from the audience. Yes, ma'am. I have some information that I think would be very helpful. And I like to know how you feel about this idea. I once weighed 170 and I used to like to eat and especially Chinese food at night. And after I found myself getting very tired and although I was enjoying different food, I said, I have to do something about this. It wasn't until I had that desire, it wasn't until I made up my mind that I didn't have to keep eating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=1983.84,2080.739"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think if you make up your mind that you want to do something for yourself and to get this weight off, it can start with a good idea. Isn't that what you're saying? That essentially you have to say to yourself that I'm in fact just not obese, I'm a compulsive over eater, therefore I need help. And again, it's wonderful that you could get a handle on that. And there are people that can. However, I couldn't do it just with me alone. I had lots of great ideas that I would starve all day and eat something to eat a regular dinner, but nothing works. It's great that it works for you. So that is the key, though, isn't it? Making up your mind to do something about it, whether it comes after the meetings or prior to the meeting? Sure. Good. And I want you to know, although I'm wearing a flurry skirt, I only weigh 153. Oh, thank you, Cindy. And Ray, again, isn't overeating isn't eating a great deal an awful lot all day long, throughout the day, so forth and so on. Is that a waste of time as well as all of the other problems that it can create? But isn't that a waste of good time? I definitely saw it as a waste of time because it amazes me. Now, you know what? I'm not bingeing. I wonder, how did I get these things done, these responsibilities I had done when I was eating because it would spend it wasn't the amount of time I was eating, but after I would eat a lot of high sugar content foods, I would usually go to sleep. So that was more time wasted or my mind would be in such a a state of fog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=2081.52,2172.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know if it was from how much I ate or it was because the way I thought about myself, but I wasn't able to do things so far. It amazes me sometimes how I made it through school because, you know, a lot of times I just was not. Focusing on school. I was focusing more on food. And I'm still trying to focus now, though, and how we use Anonymous is going to help me. If I'm a compulsive over eater, I probably am. But if I am, what are you going to do to help me? Do you have a cookbook? No. We are not food oriented. You will not. When you come to a meeting, you won't hear us talk about food. We well that we say that will love you until you love yourself. You'll meet people there that you can relate to. After the meeting. You can hook up with them to call them. It's a self support type of US group. Okay. We got another question from the audience. I'm going to come back and they are you on this limit? Let me finish. Let's take a question from the audience. Hello. My question is this overeating? Is it something that your parents, my teacher, or is it learned behavior? Perhaps your parents might reward you while you're growing up with food? Is that how it starts? My parents are both normal weight and my brothers are both normal weight. So why would I turn overweight and my brothers didn't? So it's hard to say. A lot of it can be learned behavior and passed on from generation to generation. There are many parents, though, who use food as a reward. Sure. And so that may very well I won't I can tell you that that when I raise my children, I hope that I wouldn't use food in that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=2172.69,2265.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you for the question. Let me ask another question. Are overweight people miserable? Well, I met a woman in the store once and I talked about that. I used to feel fat and miserable and she got very upset and said, I hate when people say fat, miserable, I'm fat and happy. So and you were talking about that before. If a person is fat and they truly are happy with themselves, fine. We're not out to recruit anybody or to pressure people. Owa is here for you too. Today's program is planning a seed in anybody that isn't sure if they have a problem. Hopefully we will always be here to help them. We're not out to, you know, convert, convert anybody. This is here if you want it. But a person who attends has to be honest about helping him or herself right now. You can come and all you need is a desire to stop overeating. Well, I might just say to some of my best friends are fat people and I really enjoy being around them from time to time because they're generally very pleasant people on the outside. I think that you've given us some real insight in terms of what is going on inside them. Right. And, you know, we very much appreciate you joining us today. Now we want to be able to make sure that we don't go away before we tell everybody how they can get in touch with you. And don't be as anonymous. How do we do that? Okay. We have an address. Okay. Post office box 21516. Pikesville, Maryland, 21208. And it's a phone number for. Oh, excuse me. That phone number is not correct. Give us the right phone number. The phone number is 5392242. And that is the hotline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=2265.87,2365.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The number on the screen is definitely not the correct hotline. Number 53922422, two four, two. And people, that's the hotline there. How often is the hotline, man? It's an answering service. When you double the number, an operator comes on and says two, two, four, two, and just say, I'm calling for a she'll take your name and number and one of our members will call you back. Right. Cindy and Ray, thank you so much for coming by on City Line today and talking to us about overeating and compulsive eating. We appreciate it. Continued good luck to the two of you. Thank you. We'll take a break and come back with back to my team that. Good afternoon. Alzheimer's disease is a debilitating closet illness that affects millions of Americans nationwide. What causes the disease is not known and there is no cure. Recently, I spoke with Norma Jean Watts, editor of the Alzheimer's Disease and Related Disorders Association newsletter to get a better understanding of the disease. Alzheimer's disease is a progressive degeneration of intellectual functioning, which leads to physical disabilities, total loss of memory, functions of learned functions more than anything else. So give us an example of someone who has Alzheimer's disease. A good example is possibly a lady who for many years concealed the fact from her because basically in the beginnings there are concealed forgetfulness. People who forget to make bank deposits and then checks bounce. People who maybe three times in a row in a week forget to leave or they forget their car keys, leave them locked in the car. But no one else really realizes that this is going on in their families because this is something that they can say, well, I can take care of this myself and no one else has to know about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=2366.4,2612.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alzheimer's disease is a disease that I have heard of before, but I really don't know much about and perhaps are viewing audience does not know much about. Primarily who does it strike? Primarily people in the age bracket over 55, although there are cases of younger people having it. Majority of people are women that Alzheimer's disease strikes. Do we know what causes it at this point in time? No. There is a lot of research going on in the area because it's of a dementia sort of illness, which is a brain disorder. So there's lots of research going on at present. Hopkins is probably in the forefront of the research that's going on. You are editor of the newsletter of the Alzheimer's Disease and Related Disorders Association of Baltimore, Maryland. What kind of information do you carry in your newsletter? We carry information for the caregivers, information on how to deal with things that are going on in the caregivers lives. We let people know about our support groups that are ongoing. We let them know about research and in the areas we give them tips on how to deal day to day, how to cope with things that go on, how not to let the frustrations that build up in caregivers react towards the Alzheimer's victim. Now, you're saying one of the primary symptoms of Alzheimer's disease is loss of memory. I know I often forget things. Is there a thin line or how thin is the line between normal memory loss and what would be considered a symptom of Alzheimer's disease? Oh, probably with intellectual functioning, especially in someone who's had a high intellect not being able to come up with the right word when they want to finish a sentence or being in the middle of a sentence and then just losing it or losing the train of thought on an ongoing basis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=2613.38,2734.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mood swings, mood changes or something else. You mentioned to me in our discussions earlier. Tell us a little bit about that. What kind of mood changes? Also anything from being very happy and jovial and gay to very, oh, why did you do that? To me, Total paranoia in some states, even just. Being happy and giddy and light all the time and then going totally into a blue funk sort of situation where, oh, why is this happening? But a lot of the depression comes from the frustrations of not being able to remember things that you've known all your life, which I was about to say, does sound like someone going through a slight depressive. Yes. Yeah. How is one able to tell whether or not one has Alzheimer's disease and is not just a little bit depressed? How how long would say can someone have Alzheimer's disease? And without realizing it? Oh, sometimes months, sometimes years. It's it's at the beginning. It's a slowly progressive disease. And eventually, well, there is no diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease. There are probable Alzheimer's disease because Alzheimer's can only be diagnosed through autopsy because the bottom line of Alzheimer's is death. It's a terminal disease. But. The best way is going through series of tests to rule out other brain disorders. And then we come up with probable diagnosis or see senile dementia. Alzheimer's type is the basic diagnosis for that. Do we have any idea of how many people are affected by this disease? Millions. Millions. Is there a lot, America? But there are a lot out there that we don't know that have the disease because it's just kind of coming out of the closet and people are realizing that, well, grandma has been acting a little strange.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=2735.21,2845.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Maybe it's not because she's just old, because a lot of older people tend to say, well, I'm getting old. Old people always get a little strange. And in their older years, you know, I'm not really crazy. I'm just I'm just getting old. And that's not always true. And even though Alzheimer's is not a treatable disease, there are ways that. The caregiver. The family can be evaluated and the patient is evaluated, and we can take care of both of their needs by making the patient comfortable of supporting the family in times of crisis. Because there is a lot of frustration that builds up in the family as far as taking care of an Alzheimer's patient in the home as opposed to having them in the nursing home. If someone suspects that they or a member of their family may be suffering from Alzheimer's disease, how can they check that out and find out more about it? They could have a good physical examination. Talk to your personal physician, your private physician. First, let him be the referral to any dementia research center. There are a lot of referrals to the Hopkins Dementia Clinic, and that would be the first step to start rolling out other things that there may be. Other medical reasons for the forgetfulness. There's hardening of the arteries. There's so many things that possibly could make you forget. But Alzheimer's is the end result of ruling out all of those other things first. Ms.. Watts adds Anyone interested in finding out more about Alzheimer's disease can do so by phoning 2826648. Anyone interested in starting a support group or joining one here in Baltimore can do so by contacting Ruth Rappaport at 3587583. And that is today's newscast. I'm Tim on Tear Morph City Line up next.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=2846.3,2963.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Stay with us. And do have a good day. For our music. Video presentations this week feature England's Boy George and Culture Club singing their hit Miss Me Blind and musical youth singing She's Trouble. I know you miss me. I know you miss me. But I know you're mad at the man. I know. A man named. You've got a few skills that you know how to have fun in. Round only because I'm better than the rest of the main things. You yell at me and you yell at me. Would I lie to you about my hair? I'll teach you never to show. He like likely. You know You miss me. I love you, man. I mean, I know you made me mad, and you need to borrow. You know how to make it better. But you. Never really sure if you just can't be clear. I think your dad, me and you always. Young man me a would to you. Not that you need to demand my food until you show me that you need my BlackBerry. He'd rather be. Yo, but he got to. Can't If you can't do that, you. That's your me, me, me. I love you, man. I know you made me. And many people love. I know you. Many, many, many, many, many, many. You're mad at me. I know I'm mad. I know you're mad. I know your family. I know your father. I have. I know you've missed me. Know you miss me. I know you miss me. But I. Harder. Hey. There's nothing I can do all day. Hey, you better check your phone. She said to me, I'm in trouble. I know it. She's gonna love it. Don't know what she's going and. Come on. So. She was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096#t=2964.39,3432.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85893/file/174096/transcript/47237/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Don't touch me. I'm in trouble. Down. She started. I know. I know it. And although. Well, that's our show today. But before we leave you, we have a couple of announcements that we'd like to make. One of which is to give you the hotline number to Overeaters Anonymous one more time. That number is 53922425392242. If you feel that you have a problem with compulsive eating and you want to join in Overeaters Anonymous chapter here in the Baltimore area. For next week, Prophet Harmon returns. Prophet Harmon Prophet Joseph Harmon is a Baltimore psychic who's been with us twice before. Now he's back by popular demand. He sits here and he's just he's he's a phenomenon. He just sits and he reads people. And a lot of times he's correct. And people keep telling us, bring him back, bring it back. I'm still skeptical, but we'll take a look at it next week. That's this week's edition of City Land. I'm Dan Hanson. I'm Jackie Hall. Have a good, good Sunday. 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