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Hey Norm, pull over here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589#t=12.05,17.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589/transcript/77543/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Now, let me have your first name. spell that for me. J-C-K-I-E. 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And what's the name of this wonderful little church? Union Protestant Church of Harold Hawes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589#t=137.97,144.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589/transcript/77543/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I saw you at the convention center. You had a thunderbird. That's one of your little pride and joys, I suppose. Yeah. 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We get around. 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Yeah, I'm not the typical pastor though. 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I hope it enriches it because I'm there with the people that need it, you know. I'm there with people that not normally get any.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589#t=338.43,350.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589/transcript/77543/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it doesn't do any good to preach to the righteous. 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A lot of people, when they hear that I'm a preacher, they can't figure it out because you don't look like one, is what I get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589#t=356.45,371.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589/transcript/77543/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But do you sound like one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589#t=373.15,374.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589/transcript/77543/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On Sunday mornings, yeah, and hopefully when I corner them and try to convince them to come to church, I hope that sounds like I'm a minister as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589#t=375.45,387.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589/transcript/77543/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So, I mean, you're preaching then isn't limited to the pulpit here. 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I just chose the old cars as an out, as well as being able to be there with people. and let them know that ministers aren't stuffed shirts or boards or whatever you want to call them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589#t=396.64,432.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144761/file/267589/transcript/77543/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, let me ask you a question. 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It's never the best, it can always be better. I don't get paid, I work for a living. God has given me a very good job. You're not always happy at what you do for a living, but I have been very blessed by the money that I receive. 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You've got to pass that point of God should take you home because you're not learning anything. I think that if you keep learning, then you're gonna help somebody through what you've learned. It's probably the whole reason we're here, isn't it? I hope so. To learn. I hope that's. one of the reasons we have something, we have to fulfill something and we can't fulfill it unless we know how to do it. To get where God wants us to be, we have to work through our own experiences. When I preach, I preach on experiences. I don't know that much about. what you did or what somebody else has done, but I know what I've done in my life and how God has affected my life. And through that I can then turn around and hopefully guide somebody else to the same experiences that I've had. What's next? 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