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Ladies and gentlemen, good evening. Welcome to square off the debate already underway tonight. We begin by talking about the New Jersey Supreme Court's ruling this week in the case of Baby M, They ruled, first of all, that Mary Beth Whitehead Gould, the surrogate mother, could not have custody of the baby. The court also ruled that bearing babies for pay in New Jersey is now totally illegal. But they also ruled that Mary Beth Whitehead, the surrogate mother, can have visitation rights to visit her baby in Tiananmen Square if we ask your opinion of this ruling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=57.85,88.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e George Dale My opinion is that the court was right and wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=89.26,93.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's your answer. Dr. Margaret Fountain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=94.42,96.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that the court was right in this case. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=97.06,99.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Boyce Mosley.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=100.3,101.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The court was wrong in stating her having the visitation rights. I don't think she should.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=101.86,106.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And Bob shared, it was a lousy decision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=106.51,107.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A lousy decision. Take a look at the Mary Beth Whitehead Gould case and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the score. Often any of you win the $8 million in the lotto last week. First of all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=108.58,133.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I have no right. I don't know why I didn't buy any ticket for folks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=134.37,136.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e One, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=137.13,137.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=137.4,137.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e One. No one was bought right near boys in school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=138.21,140.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I recommend against looking so I don't buy tickets. I don't think anyone should gamble and therefore I think we shouldn't buy tickets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=140.91,145.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The guarantee being on the. Sorry about that. All right, back to back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=146.28,150.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Mary Beth Whitehead Gold. Let's. There are several issues here we want to talk about. And that is, first of all, the decision that she cannot have custody of this child, that she to whom she gave birth for $10,000 richer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=151.65,163.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There's there's really two issues involved in the case. One is the legality of the contract. Secondly is a is just a plain old custody case. What's in the best interests of the children, Ms.. Whitehead or the Sterns? And the court held that it was in the best interest of the baby to go with the Sterns. But I don't like the decision because they ruled that the contract was invalid. This woman, Ms.. Whitehead, knew what she was getting into, had a change of heart and she should have been forced to uphold that contract.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=164.19,193.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=193.74,194.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I agree that we should have a contract. I think the court was entirely wrong by outlawing or saying the contract was illegal. Not for that reason. I think that if we do not have a contract, the people who want to have the babies for pay are going to do it underground. They're going to do it underground and they're going to do it without the care of physicians. They're going to do it without the care of the people and the community around them. By not having the contracts, we make it illegal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=194.59,217.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, that has not happened and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=218.31,219.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e These people can't do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=219.54,220.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Legally. There is an underlying issue here, and that's the moral issue. And I think that that should take precedent. I do not believe that we should have babies for sale and government should not in any way encourage or support the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=220.5,236.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Origin simply because the contract is legal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=237.27,239.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And that to me is the main central issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=239.67,243.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'm sorry, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=244.38,245.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think when you take a slut in that direction, I think you're absolutely probably correct based on what we know. Well, the reason I say this, because I don't think anyone really knows. I mean, no one can say that we should or should not dictate morality. And that's the point. We've been discussing this issue for centuries. And we'll and I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=245.61,260.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Think all governments have a responsibility to take a position relative to you do not have morality and the law side will crumble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=260.94,271.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, this is like the same as the abortion issue. You cannot legalize morality or make it absolute. You cannot legislate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=272.43,279.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That. But government must take a position for morality. Government and society doesn't. Then society crumbles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=279.99,289.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e They're entitled. They're entitled to their opinion and government's entitled to their opinion. But they should not legislate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=289.89,295.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The government should stand aside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=296.01,299.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We this I think you're saying two things here. I think the government should set standards for morality by their acts and behaviors and those governmental positions. Now, we certainly have a president this time who certainly has dictated something different from all of that altogether. So if we're talking about that, I think that's a moot point at this point. Now, let's get back to the case at hand with Mary Beth Whitehead. Now, I think when she signed this contract, she seems to be a very intelligent and thinking individual. If she can sign a contract saying, listen, I will give up this baby to you once you have impregnated me, and when this baby is born, it is your baby. I think if she's intelligent enough to do that, she should be intelligent enough to realize she has the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=300.67,337.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Right to question this baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=337.8,338.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e QUESTION The question is whether this woman is is booking her body or selling the baby? Well, it's a major question. That's a major question. But it gets back. There's a great question about the morality in all of these things. But the fact is, people are going to have surrogate babies and when they do, they're going to go on the ground and do it. If you outlawed people get dope, people do all kinds of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=339.82,361.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=361.43,361.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e As a matter of fact, possibly the government should legitimize.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=363.24,365.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And then one of the times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=365.76,368.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They should have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=370.2,371.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This baby would have never been born, you know, that had this woman not entered into that contract. This is not baby selling. Baby selling is when there's a baby already born and one person says, I'm against that she body. But that's right. This baby would have never been this baby would have never been.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=371.97,388.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It is hard to say this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=388.35,389.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It is her decision as to whether she wants to book her. Well, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=390.53,393.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Agree with you. Think you should pay the piper?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=393.3,395.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the point. I just said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=396.51,397.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That she should be allowed the contract.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=397.83,399.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think she should be allowed to do whatever she thinks she is intelligent enough and able to handle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=399.63,403.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How does this Does the surrogate mother. All right. The contract is no longer valid. So that that issue let's put it aside a moment, because I want to have education. Also, should the surrogate mother have the right, as ordered by the Supreme Court, New Jersey, to visit that baby?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=404.18,418.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No, not in this case. Let's look at the situation. Neal, you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=418.8,422.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are only lawyer here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=422.31,423.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Today. All right. By the way, what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=423.27,424.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The court has ruled is this, that the. Parent, the natural parent will be considered Mary Beth Whitehead. She is considered the mother. The Sterns are just have now have legal guardianship, legal custody. But they are not now considered the parents of this kid, according to this decision. Now, on a play on whether or not Mrs. Whitehead should have visitation in this case, what is in the best interests of the child? The best answer is that she should not right for this reason. Ms.. Whitehead has threatened to kill this baby when she was in a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=424.29,454.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=455.58,455.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e When she was in a dispute with Mr. Stern. Before this case ever got to court, she called up Mr. Stern and threatened to disappear, which he did do. They had to find her. She threatened. So she kidnaped the kid. She also threatened to kill the baby. Now you think she ought to get visitation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=457.36,471.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Here's the problem. The decision, as I said, I agree and I don't agree. The problem is, as you stated, Bob, the child does not belong to the Sterns. If they want that child to inherit from them to be their child, they're going to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=471.94,483.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To adopt that child. This is a ridiculous situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=484.03,486.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Mr..","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=488.53,488.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e STERN Well, we're talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=488.83,490.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no. Does that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=491.68,492.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Market speak?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=492.55,492.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think what you have to realize is there's no way that the Stern's are going to be able to say to this child as it grows up with all of this controversy around this issue, that, listen, this woman has nothing to do with you, I think put her desire on the table presently, which is why I agree with this decision and say, listen, this is your mother. Why not? I mean, what can happen to the kid at this point except to say, listen, this is my mom and you've adopted me. I understand what's going on. That's better. But look at the long.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=493.33,517.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Look at the trauma and the impact on the youngster. It will be different now. It will be different if the natural mother didn't have hostility and animosity toward toward the adoptive parents. Tell me and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=518.26,531.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You would have the sense around the controversy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=531.8,533.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, well, then that that's the main reason why the natural mother should not have visitation rights. The impact and the trauma and the emotional.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=533.99,541.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Trauma to get over that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=542.83,544.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On the on the youngster I think is is too great a risk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=544.57,548.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There's another there's another way to take time and love them regardless of what trauma you put on them. We certainly have many examples, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=549.08,555.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It depends upon the positive atmosphere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=555.61,557.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=559.45,559.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Which this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=559.9,560.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Baby was contracted. Or rather, Ms.. Whitehead entered into a contract knowing she was never going to keep that baby. She never wanted that baby. She was going to give that baby for money over to the stern, that she should have visitation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=560.77,571.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Though she never won at the baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=572.71,573.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e She said she would take the baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=574.6,577.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Also got in this into a contract means that they don't want to do something on me. I think you're talking about the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=577.6,581.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Supreme Court.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=582.07,582.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=582.67,582.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Mean one thing, a big game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=583.14,584.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It does not say anything about what she did or did not want. 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I'm saying that if you sign a contract, for example, I signed a liability contract. Ever. You meant neutral. I don't like it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=599.14,605.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute. I have seen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=606.19,607.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All the posts. If I if.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=611.17,614.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This woman knew that she was going to renege on this contract and she wanted to have a baby, she could have had a baby and not renege.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=614.71,620.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We're not talking about contracts and legalities. We're talking about a human life. What is best for that youngster that you're getting back? Well, I agree with that. That youngster being thrust into that type of environment. What's going to happen to that youngster? Well, you're more interested in contracts and legalities. But here's the problem. The judge has tried to get a lot of goodwill. And, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=623.12,651.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The fact is that the judges contradicted themselves when they said, well, we'll put them over here with the Stern's, but Whitehead can visit. And this is contradictory in the one on the one hand that was saying the child has to be looked out for and on the other hand, they would say the child doesn't it doesn't make it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=651.73,667.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That is the very hands. That is the very reason why I said that the entire concept should be illegal if it were legal, and that's why I'm so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=668.08,676.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Controlled by law, then it could be contractually arranged. And then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=676.84,680.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Why no? Then why don't we make the more relaxed legal glove track? He's saying as a moral, though, there's nothing immoral about having.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=681.16,688.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e A baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=689.23,689.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Boy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=690.49,690.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And I'm going to go along with what you said. Forget contracts for a minute, okay? Is this bait this baby is in danger? I think if Ms.. Whitehead's allowed to have visitation because the baby has been threatened by Miss Whitehead early on, and I can't forget that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=690.73,703.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a threat. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=703.63,704.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Final comments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=705.28,705.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Look at look at all of the evidence that we're looking at in terms of this case. This woman has gone through almost whatever you can think of trying to get this child back. It certainly dictates to me that this woman cares about this baby. I wouldn't think that she would go through these kinds of changes if she didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=706.06,719.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll be back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=719.86,720.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And additionally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=720.49,720.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e She got enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=721.33,721.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To somebody who cared enough to sell her body. I beg your pardon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=722.08,758.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Let's get now to education, if we can. You know, Governor Schaefer is going to be reorganizing the state university systems. He has in mind a boarding school for the brightest kids in the state to attend the city. Baltimore City, looking for a new superintendent. There's a new president of the Board of School Commissioners is getting tough. The answer that was the cover story on this recent issue of Time magazine with Joe Clark, school principal in New Jersey, on the front cover. What direction in what direction should we be moving? Our schools and both are going to come to you last. Let's put you, Bob, as our lawyer. If you are our principal. What do you think, Bob?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=838.49,874.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I the governor recently went I think was to North Carolina and checked out a in elite high school where you board and it's it's strictly for wizkid's science and math and so forth. It's very controversial because the legislature has got to determine whether or not to put money in for that. I think I love it. I think it's a great idea. There's a shortage in this country of scientists, mathematicians, and why not take the best and the brightest in those areas and just, you know, let them learn what they can learn? These are the people that are going to discover and are going to improve in technology in our country. And I'm all in favor of it, unfortunately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=875.45,911.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think this is a begging the question where we try to create a school, especially for people who are supposed to be the big brain. What we should do is to create local schools for the people who are disruptive in the classrooms. Well, we can do that, but we're not doing that. What we are doing is harassing the principals and the people who are trying to run schools for them because, no, you're not. You're talking about education, aren't you, Bob? Also, you're talking about something different. This is education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=912.5,938.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. So you're against this elite school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=939.2,940.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm against anything that takes the authority away from the local principals and deals with the issue where the issue is important within the communities. We're having problems with the kids, not with the not with trying to get schools for them to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=940.73,952.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think you can do them both. I think the first thing we need to do with schools is we need to get some discipline back into our schools. And I think Boss made comment about this. I think that when you go into schools, you see that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=953.15,963.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You've got to call them boys. And I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=964.49,965.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Said, Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=965.69,968.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All them as teachers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=969.59,970.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=972.18,973.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Reputation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=975.44,975.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Back, levity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=978.5,978.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I got it now. But I think that the first thing we should do is just that is create some discipline, give kids some guidelines, establish in these schools what you want to accomplish, how you want to accomplish, and set up a protocol by which you can do that. The troublemakers which you were talking about earlier, I think you have to have special programs. This magazine magazine here and Time's just this month talks about that. 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Okay. I'm not going to ignore it. My feeling is and I agree with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1010.66,1013.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That right now, Wait a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1014.74,1015.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Minute. I would take every disruptive kid. Exactly. I would get him out of there because he's hurting those students that are there to learn. But I would not let them wander on the streets. I would put them in some type of a military type.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1015.67,1025.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1026.17,1026.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Where you can get some bob.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1027.55,1028.329"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Lunch. You take the bad ones out of the classroom, right. And give the teachers a chance to teach the ones just you don't need a super school in some place. What you need is to turn the authority over to the principals and to the parents and the community and get away. Get away By doing this, You don't do away with the unions, Bob.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1028.63,1045.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you mean you don't need a sudden?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1045.76,1046.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the unions are trying to run the schools and tell the principal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1046.599,1049.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1051.16,1051.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Can that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1051.74,1052.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's all our stock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1052.93,1055.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Market and George and Bob hold on. It is time to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1056.32,1058.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1059.38,1059.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Principal. Take it away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1060.25,1061.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Boss, that we're talking to you. Two different things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1061.75,1065.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Boy, that's a one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1066.04,1066.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e There certainly is a need to develop an educational program in school for a youngster with exceptional talent. But you have to put that in proper perspective and put that in priority. The greatest priority confronting, let's say, Baltimore City and urban areas are is the priority of raising the literacy level of a vast majority of youngsters in the underclass. And at this particular point in time, that money that he wants to spend for the elite school will be better spent and better serve the public and that money will be poured into our in these inner city schools to raise those level of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1067.75,1105.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But it that both can be done at the same time. I mean, it doesn't mean with the education budget. It doesn't mean that you have to sacrifice what you want to do to have this elite school. I mean, they want to have a trolley. They want to put a trolley that runs from Huntsville to and around the county. Okay. That because they say in the year 2000, you're going to need it. In the year 2000, we'll worry about the trolley. Let's take that money now. 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The future scientists in this country. And that's the way to do. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1137.39,1140.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1140.99,1140.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, good and well, there's only so much money's going to be put in the pot for education. And in order to develop this elite school, that money is going to come out of that pot where someone is going to watch the money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1141.68,1153.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1153.74,1154.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not just talking about money. I'm talking about about commitment. I'm talking about direction. I'm talking about focus. And we better be going with the word. We better begin to focus our resources, our attention, and our energy on that underclass, who's being poorly educated and ending up functioning as we have to, and increasing and strengthening that cycle of ignorance and poverty, which is prevalent right on urban areas that are over done. Go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1154.88,1187.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The problem is not just the money and everyone harps on money. The problem is the focus, as you said, and the focus is on the community. You told us about sending a little girl home from school because she had done something naughty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1188.39,1198.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This was during a break. And the audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1199.34,1200.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, doing a break. And the little girl was not home from school because she'd been naughty in class. The fact is that you probably sent her home to a worse situation that she was experiencing in school. And this is why she came to school and did what she did in school alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1202.07,1214.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We have to follow you. No, no, no. 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And George, I'm going to quiet him. Gentlemen, rest for a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1254.96,1258.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Margaret That's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1260.24,1260.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. 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When you read this article, you will see that there are forces in those schools that require this kind of behavior. 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Additionally, I think what we have to do, we have to realize that unless we get our educational system together, it affects the whole of society. Right now, we can't take care of the social programs. We can't take up all of the problems that we have to support directly related to the fact that people are not educated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1283.36,1302.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e My time here. Okay. Jesus. This man ought to be carrying two bats.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1302.93,1306.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, Got a second?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1306.98,1308.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There is money to do both of these projects. Number one, I totally agree with everything you're saying, boys, but there is money to also build this elite school. You know, where they can get it. The legislature is real quick, ready to appropriate money to put a dome on a stadium because there's a chance we may get an expansion team in 25 years. Okay. But do ready to appropriate millions to put a dome on a stadium and we don't even have a ball club. Take that money and build an elite school which can be used in September of 1988.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1309.47,1337.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's a that sounds really nice. It's that simple. It's that simple. But we have but we have to be concerned about the priorities of the overall society and the overall society. And particularly in Baltimore, they're more concerned about getting a franchise. It's been in office.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1338.96,1355.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If we had a franchise this year, that's one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1355.97,1357.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, let me tell you what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1358.16,1358.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1361.22,1361.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Need to do in education. We need to give principals absolute authority for running the school. And I'll tell you, if you gave the principal the absolute authority to break through that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1361.55,1375.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now we dip into our score off mailbag with this wonderful letter from Karl Miller of Baltimore, Maryland, who writes to square off. I do like a good, meaningful debate. It can even get a lot of nasty at times. But the last couple of shows have been bad, really bad. Elaine and Edgar Berman used to bicker and fight, but at least there was some sort of debate of the issues, as you saw tonight, because we were much more orderly and interesting, we hope. And here's the letter from W.E. King, the throne of Baltimore, who writes The square off of January 23rd was one of the most enjoyable and entertaining I've witnessed. I found myself agreeing with La Stein and Hare Murphy, and the exchange between Allen Stein and the Reverend canceling was classic the type which has made viewing the show a Saturday. Right. And from Tom, just Tom, who is in Baltimore, Maryland, he writes, Richard, quick check the water fountain, touch the air, examine the snack tray. Something's crazy on square off building. MURPHY Sounds like the sensible panelists. Here's our address to Squirrel W, Jay Z, TV Television. Baltimore, Maryland, two one, two, one, one, one. I have some good news. The good news is that for the next two weeks, weekends on Saturday night, in this time period, you're going to be seeing ABC's terrific coverage of the Olympics. The bad news is square off will not be here for a couple of weeks. We're looking for another time period. If we find it, we'll let you know. Have a wonderful weekend and we'll see you next time on square off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1470.62,1551.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Richard's wardrobe provided by James Edwards Ltd Fine men's clothing in the Hilton Inn Plaza, Pikesville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1552.85,1557.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62831/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Coming up. It squared off otherwise known as Saturday night at the fights. We're going to be talking about the surrogate mother who has gotten visitation rights and cracking down on students in the schools with voice, mostly George Dale, Dr. Margaret Fountain and Bob SCHIEFFER, Channel 13 square off next here on WJC, Channel 13. The surrogate can visit BBM, join Boys Mosley, George Dale, Margaret Fountain and Bob Sheridan Square off Saturday night at 730 on WG 13. The surrogate can visit Baby M, Join Voice Mosley, George Dale, Margaret Phelan and Bob Sharon Square on Saturday night at 730 on WJC, Channel 13. Getting tougher on students with voice, mostly George Dale, Margaret Phelan and Bob Share square off tonight at 730 on WG 13. The surrogate can visit Baby M Saturday night at 730. 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Ladies and gentlemen, good evening. Welcome to square off the debate already underway tonight. We begin by talking about the New Jersey Supreme Court's ruling this week in the case of Baby M, They ruled, first of all, that Mary Beth Whitehead Gould, the surrogate mother, could not have custody of the baby. The court also ruled that bearing babies for pay in New Jersey is now totally illegal. But they also ruled that Mary Beth Whitehead, the surrogate mother, can have visitation rights to visit her baby in Tiananmen Square if we ask your opinion of this ruling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=57.85,88.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e George Dale My opinion is that the court was right and wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=89.26,93.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's your answer. Dr. Margaret Fountain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=94.42,96.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that the court was right in this case. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=97.06,99.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Boyce Mosley.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=100.3,101.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The court was wrong in stating her having the visitation rights. I don't think she should.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=101.86,106.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And Bob shared, it was a lousy decision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=106.51,107.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A lousy decision. Take a look at the Mary Beth Whitehead Gould case and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the score. Often any of you win the $8 million in the lotto last week. First of all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=108.58,133.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I have no right. I don't know why I didn't buy any ticket for folks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=134.37,136.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e One, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=137.13,137.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=137.4,137.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e One. No one was bought right near boys in school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=138.21,140.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I recommend against looking so I don't buy tickets. I don't think anyone should gamble and therefore I think we shouldn't buy tickets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=140.91,145.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The guarantee being on the. Sorry about that. All right, back to back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=146.28,150.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Mary Beth Whitehead Gold. Let's. There are several issues here we want to talk about. And that is, first of all, the decision that she cannot have custody of this child, that she to whom she gave birth for $10,000 richer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=151.65,163.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There's there's really two issues involved in the case. One is the legality of the contract. Secondly is a is just a plain old custody case. What's in the best interests of the children, Ms.. Whitehead or the Sterns? And the court held that it was in the best interest of the baby to go with the Sterns. But I don't like the decision because they ruled that the contract was invalid. This woman, Ms.. Whitehead, knew what she was getting into, had a change of heart and she should have been forced to uphold that contract.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=164.19,193.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=193.74,194.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I agree that we should have a contract. I think the court was entirely wrong by outlawing or saying the contract was illegal. Not for that reason. I think that if we do not have a contract, the people who want to have the babies for pay are going to do it underground. They're going to do it underground and they're going to do it without the care of physicians. They're going to do it without the care of the people and the community around them. By not having the contracts, we make it illegal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=194.59,217.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, that has not happened and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=218.31,219.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e These people can't do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=219.54,220.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Legally. There is an underlying issue here, and that's the moral issue. And I think that that should take precedent. I do not believe that we should have babies for sale and government should not in any way encourage or support the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=220.5,236.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Origin simply because the contract is legal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=237.27,239.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And that to me is the main central issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=239.67,243.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'm sorry, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=244.38,245.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think when you take a slut in that direction, I think you're absolutely probably correct based on what we know. Well, the reason I say this, because I don't think anyone really knows. I mean, no one can say that we should or should not dictate morality. And that's the point. We've been discussing this issue for centuries. And we'll and I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=245.61,260.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Think all governments have a responsibility to take a position relative to you do not have morality and the law side will crumble.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=260.94,271.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, this is like the same as the abortion issue. You cannot legalize morality or make it absolute. You cannot legislate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=272.43,279.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That. But government must take a position for morality. Government and society doesn't. Then society crumbles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=279.99,289.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e They're entitled. They're entitled to their opinion and government's entitled to their opinion. But they should not legislate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=289.89,295.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The government should stand aside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=296.01,299.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We this I think you're saying two things here. I think the government should set standards for morality by their acts and behaviors and those governmental positions. Now, we certainly have a president this time who certainly has dictated something different from all of that altogether. So if we're talking about that, I think that's a moot point at this point. Now, let's get back to the case at hand with Mary Beth Whitehead. Now, I think when she signed this contract, she seems to be a very intelligent and thinking individual. If she can sign a contract saying, listen, I will give up this baby to you once you have impregnated me, and when this baby is born, it is your baby. I think if she's intelligent enough to do that, she should be intelligent enough to realize she has the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=300.67,337.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Right to question this baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=337.8,338.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e QUESTION The question is whether this woman is is booking her body or selling the baby? Well, it's a major question. That's a major question. But it gets back. There's a great question about the morality in all of these things. But the fact is, people are going to have surrogate babies and when they do, they're going to go on the ground and do it. If you outlawed people get dope, people do all kinds of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=339.82,361.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=361.43,361.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e As a matter of fact, possibly the government should legitimize.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=363.24,365.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And then one of the times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=365.76,368.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They should have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=370.2,371.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This baby would have never been born, you know, that had this woman not entered into that contract. This is not baby selling. Baby selling is when there's a baby already born and one person says, I'm against that she body. But that's right. This baby would have never been this baby would have never been.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=371.97,388.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It is hard to say this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=388.35,389.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It is her decision as to whether she wants to book her. Well, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=390.53,393.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Agree with you. Think you should pay the piper?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=393.3,395.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the point. I just said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=396.51,397.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That she should be allowed the contract.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=397.83,399.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think she should be allowed to do whatever she thinks she is intelligent enough and able to handle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=399.63,403.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How does this Does the surrogate mother. All right. The contract is no longer valid. So that that issue let's put it aside a moment, because I want to have education. Also, should the surrogate mother have the right, as ordered by the Supreme Court, New Jersey, to visit that baby?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=404.18,418.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No, not in this case. Let's look at the situation. Neal, you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=418.8,422.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are only lawyer here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=422.31,423.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Today. All right. By the way, what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=423.27,424.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The court has ruled is this, that the. Parent, the natural parent will be considered Mary Beth Whitehead. She is considered the mother. The Sterns are just have now have legal guardianship, legal custody. But they are not now considered the parents of this kid, according to this decision. Now, on a play on whether or not Mrs. Whitehead should have visitation in this case, what is in the best interests of the child? The best answer is that she should not right for this reason. Ms.. Whitehead has threatened to kill this baby when she was in a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=424.29,454.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=455.58,455.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e When she was in a dispute with Mr. Stern. Before this case ever got to court, she called up Mr. Stern and threatened to disappear, which he did do. They had to find her. She threatened. So she kidnaped the kid. She also threatened to kill the baby. Now you think she ought to get visitation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=457.36,471.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Here's the problem. The decision, as I said, I agree and I don't agree. The problem is, as you stated, Bob, the child does not belong to the Sterns. If they want that child to inherit from them to be their child, they're going to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=471.94,483.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To adopt that child. This is a ridiculous situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=484.03,486.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Mr..","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=488.53,488.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e STERN Well, we're talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=488.83,490.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no. Does that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=491.68,492.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Market speak?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=492.55,492.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think what you have to realize is there's no way that the Stern's are going to be able to say to this child as it grows up with all of this controversy around this issue, that, listen, this woman has nothing to do with you, I think put her desire on the table presently, which is why I agree with this decision and say, listen, this is your mother. Why not? I mean, what can happen to the kid at this point except to say, listen, this is my mom and you've adopted me. I understand what's going on. That's better. But look at the long.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=493.33,517.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Look at the trauma and the impact on the youngster. It will be different now. It will be different if the natural mother didn't have hostility and animosity toward toward the adoptive parents. Tell me and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=518.26,531.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You would have the sense around the controversy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=531.8,533.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, well, then that that's the main reason why the natural mother should not have visitation rights. The impact and the trauma and the emotional.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=533.99,541.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Trauma to get over that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=542.83,544.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On the on the youngster I think is is too great a risk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=544.57,548.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There's another there's another way to take time and love them regardless of what trauma you put on them. We certainly have many examples, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=549.08,555.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It depends upon the positive atmosphere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=555.61,557.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=559.45,559.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Which this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=559.9,560.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Baby was contracted. Or rather, Ms.. Whitehead entered into a contract knowing she was never going to keep that baby. She never wanted that baby. She was going to give that baby for money over to the stern, that she should have visitation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=560.77,571.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Though she never won at the baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=572.71,573.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e She said she would take the baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=574.6,577.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Also got in this into a contract means that they don't want to do something on me. 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I'm saying that if you sign a contract, for example, I signed a liability contract. Ever. You meant neutral. I don't like it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=599.14,605.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute. I have seen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=606.19,607.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All the posts. If I if.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=611.17,614.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This woman knew that she was going to renege on this contract and she wanted to have a baby, she could have had a baby and not renege.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=614.71,620.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We're not talking about contracts and legalities. We're talking about a human life. What is best for that youngster that you're getting back? Well, I agree with that. That youngster being thrust into that type of environment. What's going to happen to that youngster? Well, you're more interested in contracts and legalities. But here's the problem. The judge has tried to get a lot of goodwill. And, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=623.12,651.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The fact is that the judges contradicted themselves when they said, well, we'll put them over here with the Stern's, but Whitehead can visit. And this is contradictory in the one on the one hand that was saying the child has to be looked out for and on the other hand, they would say the child doesn't it doesn't make it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=651.73,667.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That is the very hands. That is the very reason why I said that the entire concept should be illegal if it were legal, and that's why I'm so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=668.08,676.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Controlled by law, then it could be contractually arranged. And then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=676.84,680.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Why no? Then why don't we make the more relaxed legal glove track? He's saying as a moral, though, there's nothing immoral about having.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=681.16,688.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e A baby.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=689.23,689.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Boy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=690.49,690.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And I'm going to go along with what you said. Forget contracts for a minute, okay? Is this bait this baby is in danger? I think if Ms.. Whitehead's allowed to have visitation because the baby has been threatened by Miss Whitehead early on, and I can't forget that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=690.73,703.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a threat. 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This woman has gone through almost whatever you can think of trying to get this child back. It certainly dictates to me that this woman cares about this baby. I wouldn't think that she would go through these kinds of changes if she didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=706.06,719.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll be back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=719.86,720.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And additionally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=720.49,720.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e She got enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=721.33,721.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To somebody who cared enough to sell her body. I beg your pardon?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=722.08,758.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Let's get now to education, if we can. You know, Governor Schaefer is going to be reorganizing the state university systems. He has in mind a boarding school for the brightest kids in the state to attend the city. Baltimore City, looking for a new superintendent. There's a new president of the Board of School Commissioners is getting tough. The answer that was the cover story on this recent issue of Time magazine with Joe Clark, school principal in New Jersey, on the front cover. What direction in what direction should we be moving? Our schools and both are going to come to you last. Let's put you, Bob, as our lawyer. If you are our principal. What do you think, Bob?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=838.49,874.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I the governor recently went I think was to North Carolina and checked out a in elite high school where you board and it's it's strictly for wizkid's science and math and so forth. It's very controversial because the legislature has got to determine whether or not to put money in for that. I think I love it. I think it's a great idea. There's a shortage in this country of scientists, mathematicians, and why not take the best and the brightest in those areas and just, you know, let them learn what they can learn? These are the people that are going to discover and are going to improve in technology in our country. And I'm all in favor of it, unfortunately.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=875.45,911.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think this is a begging the question where we try to create a school, especially for people who are supposed to be the big brain. What we should do is to create local schools for the people who are disruptive in the classrooms. Well, we can do that, but we're not doing that. What we are doing is harassing the principals and the people who are trying to run schools for them because, no, you're not. You're talking about education, aren't you, Bob? Also, you're talking about something different. This is education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=912.5,938.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. So you're against this elite school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=939.2,940.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm against anything that takes the authority away from the local principals and deals with the issue where the issue is important within the communities. We're having problems with the kids, not with the not with trying to get schools for them to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=940.73,952.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think you can do them both. I think the first thing we need to do with schools is we need to get some discipline back into our schools. And I think Boss made comment about this. 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And I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=964.49,965.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Said, Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=965.69,968.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All them as teachers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=969.59,970.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh yeah, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=972.18,973.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Reputation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=975.44,975.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Back, levity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=978.5,978.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I got it now. But I think that the first thing we should do is just that is create some discipline, give kids some guidelines, establish in these schools what you want to accomplish, how you want to accomplish, and set up a protocol by which you can do that. The troublemakers which you were talking about earlier, I think you have to have special programs. This magazine magazine here and Time's just this month talks about that. 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Okay. I'm not going to ignore it. My feeling is and I agree with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1010.66,1013.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That right now, Wait a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1014.74,1015.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Minute. I would take every disruptive kid. Exactly. I would get him out of there because he's hurting those students that are there to learn. But I would not let them wander on the streets. 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You take the bad ones out of the classroom, right. And give the teachers a chance to teach the ones just you don't need a super school in some place. What you need is to turn the authority over to the principals and to the parents and the community and get away. Get away By doing this, You don't do away with the unions, Bob.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1028.63,1045.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you mean you don't need a sudden?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1045.76,1046.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the unions are trying to run the schools and tell the principal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1046.599,1049.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1051.16,1051.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Can that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1051.74,1052.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's all our stock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1052.93,1055.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Market and George and Bob hold on. It is time to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1056.32,1058.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1059.38,1059.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Principal. Take it away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1060.25,1061.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Boss, that we're talking to you. Two different things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1061.75,1065.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Boy, that's a one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1066.04,1066.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e There certainly is a need to develop an educational program in school for a youngster with exceptional talent. But you have to put that in proper perspective and put that in priority. The greatest priority confronting, let's say, Baltimore City and urban areas are is the priority of raising the literacy level of a vast majority of youngsters in the underclass. And at this particular point in time, that money that he wants to spend for the elite school will be better spent and better serve the public and that money will be poured into our in these inner city schools to raise those level of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1067.75,1105.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But it that both can be done at the same time. I mean, it doesn't mean with the education budget. It doesn't mean that you have to sacrifice what you want to do to have this elite school. I mean, they want to have a trolley. They want to put a trolley that runs from Huntsville to and around the county. Okay. That because they say in the year 2000, you're going to need it. In the year 2000, we'll worry about the trolley. Let's take that money now. 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The future scientists in this country. And that's the way to do. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1137.39,1140.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1140.99,1140.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, good and well, there's only so much money's going to be put in the pot for education. And in order to develop this elite school, that money is going to come out of that pot where someone is going to watch the money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1141.68,1153.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1153.74,1154.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not just talking about money. I'm talking about about commitment. I'm talking about direction. I'm talking about focus. And we better be going with the word. We better begin to focus our resources, our attention, and our energy on that underclass, who's being poorly educated and ending up functioning as we have to, and increasing and strengthening that cycle of ignorance and poverty, which is prevalent right on urban areas that are over done. Go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1154.88,1187.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The problem is not just the money and everyone harps on money. The problem is the focus, as you said, and the focus is on the community. You told us about sending a little girl home from school because she had done something naughty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1188.39,1198.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This was during a break. And the audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1199.34,1200.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, doing a break. And the little girl was not home from school because she'd been naughty in class. The fact is that you probably sent her home to a worse situation that she was experiencing in school. And this is why she came to school and did what she did in school alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1202.07,1214.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We have to follow you. No, no, no. 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And George, I'm going to quiet him. Gentlemen, rest for a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1254.96,1258.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Margaret That's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1260.24,1260.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. 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When you read this article, you will see that there are forces in those schools that require this kind of behavior. 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Additionally, I think what we have to do, we have to realize that unless we get our educational system together, it affects the whole of society. Right now, we can't take care of the social programs. We can't take up all of the problems that we have to support directly related to the fact that people are not educated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1283.36,1302.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e My time here. Okay. Jesus. This man ought to be carrying two bats.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1302.93,1306.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, Got a second?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1306.98,1308.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There is money to do both of these projects. Number one, I totally agree with everything you're saying, boys, but there is money to also build this elite school. You know, where they can get it. The legislature is real quick, ready to appropriate money to put a dome on a stadium because there's a chance we may get an expansion team in 25 years. Okay. But do ready to appropriate millions to put a dome on a stadium and we don't even have a ball club. Take that money and build an elite school which can be used in September of 1988.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1309.47,1337.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's a that sounds really nice. It's that simple. It's that simple. But we have but we have to be concerned about the priorities of the overall society and the overall society. And particularly in Baltimore, they're more concerned about getting a franchise. It's been in office.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1338.96,1355.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If we had a franchise this year, that's one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1355.97,1357.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, let me tell you what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1358.16,1358.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1361.22,1361.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Need to do in education. We need to give principals absolute authority for running the school. And I'll tell you, if you gave the principal the absolute authority to break through that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557#t=1361.55,1375.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118895/file/223557/transcript/62961/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now we dip into our score off mailbag with this wonderful letter from Karl Miller of Baltimore, Maryland, who writes to square off. I do like a good, meaningful debate. It can even get a lot of nasty at times. But the last couple of shows have been bad, really bad. Elaine and Edgar Berman used to bicker and fight, but at least there was some sort of debate of the issues, as you saw tonight, because we were much more orderly and interesting, we hope. And here's the letter from W.E. King, the throne of Baltimore, who writes The square off of January 23rd was one of the most enjoyable and entertaining I've witnessed. I found myself agreeing with La Stein and Hare Murphy, and the exchange between Allen Stein and the Reverend canceling was classic the type which has made viewing the show a Saturday. Right. And from Tom, just Tom, who is in Baltimore, Maryland, he writes, Richard, quick check the water fountain, touch the air, examine the snack tray. Something's crazy on square off building. MURPHY Sounds like the sensible panelists. Here's our address to Squirrel W, Jay Z, TV Television. Baltimore, Maryland, two one, two, one, one, one. I have some good news. 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