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We're live on City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie Hong. And I'm Dan Henson. Do you remember what was going on in black America during the sixties? There were marches, demonstrations, riots, bussing, burning and black power in the middle of it all with the crowd. America has to come around or black people are going to burn it down. Rap Brown coined that phrase Whatever happened to Rap Brown? What has he been doing during the past 20 years? Today, he's a muslim minister. Jameel Al-Amin supporting presidential candidates. Where do the nation's black congressmen stand? I'm Tim T Tia and we'll take a look at that. And on this week's entertainment page, we have Luther Vandross singing his hit superstar. And we also have the whispers with this time. Minister Jamil Al-Amin is with us today on City Line. And we'll talk to him about the state of black America today. All of this and more when City Line continues. Good afternoon and happy Mother's Day to all the mothers in the audience and welcome to today's edition of City Land. As we said in the beginning of the show, our guest today is a very special guest. He is Imam Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly at Brown. And he's with us today from Atlanta, where he is now Muslim minister of. I guess I guess probably the way to to get into the discussion is just to simply ask you. Jamil Al-Amin, whatever happened to bring out the blame initiated on a regime, this media harassment regime? I seek refuge in a life from sheet on the curse. I begin with the name of a law, the benefits of the merciful. I seek refuge in the law for misleading and from being misled, from betraying and being betrayed into ignorance by others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=133.15,265.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that the question is rhetorical. Rhetorical in the sense that whatever happened to anyone else, if they are still living it. There's a reflection either of growth or a kind of deterioration going backward. I think Islam in my life represents a kind of a sense of growth. In the sixties, most people were familiar with me as a result of the movement, and in the sixties, the movement was around essentially around human rights. I think Islam is a platform. It is a program in which a law has enabled us to have a better sense of what human rights are about and how to bring about the human rights. Now, your message, at least the message that we were getting through the media, the mass media, was burn this town down or whatever, and especially since you were rather close to our own community of Cambridge, Maryland. What is your message today? The Muslims message is that there is no good bit of law and Muhammad is his messenger. Speaking of Mohammed, even Abdullah, who lived 1400 years ago, who was an heir by birth, but who a loss is, is a messenger that was sinful mankind. Again, the platform of human rights deals with in the fact that we understand and we believe that there is a creator, that a creator has created, man has and has not left him without guidance. Technically, in the sixties, the message was not only a thing of just burn a destruction, but it was a kind of idea, a thought of If there is no redress of grievance, then people have a right to express themselves or to try and bring about a situation whereby the grievance can be met, you know, in the fashion, in the fashion where they would be satisfied.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=266.81,368.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's not just blindly burning and looting as it was projected. I think that image was rejected for a certain reason, but in fact, I don't think that that was the case and nor is it the case in any struggle or revolution historically. I want to remind all of our listeners at home and viewers at home that you can join in our discussion by calling us at 41, 13, 13, and you can talk to me and Al-Amin. I think it is important, however, too, for a whole generation of people who really don't know who Ray Brown was before we we learn a little bit more about who Jameel Al-Amin is that that we just briefly recap some things from the sixties during the sixties. I guess you first came to notoriety as the chairman of the Student and Valley Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, and in that role, you were first perceived, I guess, in terms of national publicity in Cambridge, doing a shortly before making a 45 minute speech, shortly before the town to square blocks of the town were burned down. What was your actual role in that? I was invited to Cambridge. Cambridge had a history of, for lack of a better word, of racial disturbances. Even before I came in to Cambridge, the school had been burnt at least two weeks before I spoke in Cambridge, and after speaking in Cambridge, there was a crowd of African-Americans who attended the speech of the rally. There was a person who a lady who wanted to be escorted home, home. And in doing so, we went across the race street as a street in Cambridge known as Race Street, and in escorting the lady home. And it was not only myself, but a crowd of people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=369.59,470.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, I was ambushed by the police. In other words, they opened fire on us. I was shot. You were actually hit? Yes, I was. I was shot and from that point taken to the infirmary, at that point, nothing had happened. From leaving the infirmary, you know, I left town the next day. I saw on TV that I was indicted, had been indicted for inciting to Right. And that people had burned. Cambridge. Cambridge. Wouldn't that much to burn anyway. You know, we'd like to continue our discussion on your role in the Sixties and who Jamil Al-Amin is today right after we go to these messages. We're back on City Line talking to our special guest, Jamil Abdullah. I'll Amin, formerly Rap Brown, by way of identification only, of course. But before the break, Minister, I mean, you were talking about your involvement in the Cambridge situations during the mid-sixties. You you just said that you had been ambushed and then arrested or charged or and then you can pick it up from there. Mm hmm. You know, I left the area and I was placed under indictment that was indicted for inciting the right. But I was not brought back into the area because when I was arrested, it was in Washington, D.C., and we fought extradition and which went on for a few years before. Ultimately, I came back to Maryland to face the charges. But again, it was a thing that had been contrived because doing that particular time, the movement had gained the kind of momentum in certain communities whereby people were rebelling around the country and no one person causes rebellions. It is a condition. In other words, as given by even in 1984, you see Miami, which rebelled against certain conditions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=471.65,657.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The fact that a police officer went up and he shot a man in Miami and the community erode, sort of exploded around that particular incident, which speaks about conditions that exist. And I think it is a common kind of thing that always will exist. Men will fight against oppression. A lot has said in Iran, fighting tyranny and oppression for tyranny and oppression is worse than slaughter. Imam Al-Amin You know, you came to prominence as a result of two national promise, I guess as a result of the Cambridge riots or civil disorders. But another individual came to national prominence as a result of the reaction against that effort. Spiro Agnew. Do you feel some guilt? He was was then governor of Maryland and he made a strong pitch against you personally, a strong personal indictment against you. Do you feel some guilt as a result of of giving Spiro Agnew the opportunity to come to the forefront? No, I think that he was not a kind of a strange phenomena as people would project. I think that he was part and parcel of the kind of thing that has been developing in America and that continues to develop. As a matter of fact, I think the current administration is, you know, within the style or within the context of Spiro Agnew. So I don't think that it was a thing that had and a kind of mutation that occurred in the political system of America. I think he's part and parcel of what politicians are in America. You know, so I think that the opportunity he was an opportunist who saw a certain situation in which he tried to take advantage of. And it's the same rule of thumb that's used today, politicians. They see certain opportunities in which they try to take advantage of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=657.89,755.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Already, we've been asking our viewers to give us a call and join in our discussion. And we have callers waiting right now. Hi. Would you like to talked with Minister? I mean. Yes, hello. Yes, go ahead, please. I would like to know what Mr. Amin's feelings are on the comment that Louis Farrakhan made about the black reporter who should be killed with the Hymie remark. Could you speak to that, please? Thank you. And thank you for the call. What's what do I feel about his comment concerning an action to be taken against any person? Again, that's his personal comment. I think that we have a wrong concept of what people who it is. I think that as the law has pointed out in the Koran, people who it is determined by belief. Historically, the African-American community or the African community has never been united on the basis of blood or race. It has always been segments within those communities that have, on the basis of belief, done other things, and not only true with the Africans, but historically with mankind. Again, Cain and Abel were blood brothers. One killed the other based upon belief. So belief is the criteria to determining peoplehood. And I think that in determining where a person stands, it is, you know, to hear his belief and whether you respect it or not, whether you in opposition to his belief or not, but to understand that that race is not the governing factor in terms of what people are about. The law has said in Koran he created the races that men might get to know each other, not that they would despise each other. The best amongst you is who is most righteous. The companions asked the prophet's prophet, What is righteousness he say is good behavior in looking over the 20 year period since you were in the limelight, so to speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=756.83,861.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How much has changed for black America? Again, when you speak of black America again, you would have to give me a better definition as to who you're talking about when you say black America, because the African American is as America and as America and even in some instances more American than the European-American. Again, his belief is grounded in the fact. That America is a such a country in which he can live with that he loves, or that he expresses desire to be a part of. This is the patriotic black. Well, you know, it is anybody who expresses that belief. So, again, by definition, if you can define who you mean when you say black America, maybe I can speak to the question that you raise. Black America is not just a segment of of people because of race, but it deals with belief. Again, there was an article in the paper this morning when I was leaving Atlanta, Georgia, in which it dealt with an African-American Muslim who is in the Marines who refused to fight in Lebanon, in Grenada. And so therefore, he is being court martialed again. He is in the Marines. He's an American. But his belief was of such that, you know, he said that I would not go over and fight these particular people. And so you would think that the black community, in quotes, into various segments, those who believe and those who believe in that, those who believe in that, as opposed to looking at it as a whole. I think I think by necessity it has to be. There's a quote again in which it says that concerning the Negro, the African-American, he said he is the exaggerated American. In other words, you know, I always look at it in a sense, if if America loves red, he won't hot pink.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=862.76,955.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, again, it's he takes it to a degree beyond that, because the belief is the belief that governs are controls any and every individual. If he believes that he's an American, then he's an American. So how do you define. How do you, you know, categorize one person as because of race as not being an American, which is going to govern, in fact. Yeah. Already. Hello, your live on City Line. Yes. I would like to ask the I mean, does he feel that his life is in danger for his beliefs as a change in over from the the breakthrough at Brown in the sixties as to the Muslim of today, the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessing upon him. That said, you know, go out every day as if you will die in the evening. So death is not a governing factor in terms of the struggle that must be waged. I think that the reality of death, you know, confronts us all. You know, every time you go out, you don't know whether you're going to come back. So, again, it is a situation whereby, you know, you give thought or you reflect upon it in the sense that you say that, you know, again, in the context, there are certain things that have to be accomplished. Do you feel like you're being followed around or monitored? I mean, COINTELPRO, for example, during the sixties, monitored your activities very heavily. Do you still feel that pressure? No, but that's not to say that I'm not under surveillance so that they don't pay attention. You know, you would be naive to think that because, again, the whole Islamic program goes against the grain of what America is today. So it is not a thing of to be unaware that, you know, that they still, you know, understand what I'm about and I understand what they are about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=956.91,1052.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's take another call. Hi. You're on City Line. Yes. I want to welcome Sir LaRocco to the how would you compare the treatment of the human rights issue and the religion of Islam and other ideologies? Islam is not an ideology. Islam is based upon belief. And I think we have to be clear in that a lot of the law has revealed certain things as truth and ideology stems from the fact that men have mentally put together certain ideas that appeals to their appetites or their desires, such as in the ideas that came about as a result of the Greek and the Romans, the Greco-Roman, Judaic, Judeo Christian kind of ideas that brought about Western civilization. The idea of freedom and freedom is no more than an idea. And when we look at it closely, we see that it is not a sound idea, a good idea, because a law has not created man to be free. He has created him to be slave by the fact that we have to eat and we have to breathe air and that we live and that we die, meaning that we are indeed subservient to a greater force. So it is not a belief, but you know, it is not an idea rather, but it is a belief. And a law has given the belief and the belief is superior to the idea. So the belief that a law has said that mankind should be about is that they believe in a law, that they believe that there is no God but one God. And in the worship of God that are certain guidance, certain guidelines that we must follow. A minister I mean, we're going to take a break and come back and continue our discussion in just a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=1052.94,1140.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now here's this week's community calendar. The Black Law Students Association of the University of Baltimore will sponsor its third Annual CEO Awards banquet on May 26 at the Hyatt Regency. Guest speaker for the banquet will be Attorney General Stephen Sachs and entertainment provided by Moon August. The banquet begins at 6 p.m. and tickets are $20 per person, which includes dinner and a cash bar. For ticket information, call 8413697. If your group organization would like to announce an event, please write us in care of City Line TV. Television. Hill. Baltimore, Maryland. 212, 114. Call us for further information at 4660013. Between the hours of nine and five. We're back live on City Line. And our guest today is Imam Jamil Abdullah Al Amin, or formerly a Brown by way of identification. And we're going to take an audience question from the audience in the audience from the question. Yes, sir. Yes. One of the hardest issues today for particularly for blacks, is the situation of Jesse Jackson running for president. What do you personally feel about that? Do you support Jesse Jackson? And what impact does that have on blacks in America at this particular point in time? Again, you know, to assume for the sake of the discussion that blacks do comprise a different group than other Americans. I think that the Jesse's running is a decision that he has made. And I think that it is important to him. And there are people who support him because of the belief that he that he emanates. And it is important for them now the value of the electoral process, the whole electoral process in this country. Again, I think that it is bankrupt. Again, I think what better way to enslave a man than give him the vote and call him free? I think that the values, the ethics and the morals of what America represents, you know, is at such a low ebb in in in humanity at the time that it has to be questioned, There has to be a reevaluation as to what America represents, what it is about the ethics and the morals of this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=1274.96,1437.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Imam Al-Amin, you would then disagree with Minister Louis Farrakhan, who has encouraged the Nation of Islam to join in the political process to support Jesse Jackson. I disagree with the concept of the electoral process. I think that it is worthless. I think that what does it prophet have meant to vote and not be able to vote for a candidate of his choice? And I think these are some of the questions that have been raised. You know, how do you choose between Reagan and Mondale or Reagan and anybody else who runs when they anyone who wins has to go and fight for the defense budget? It is not a question as to whether the president is black or white. It means that he still has to go and fight for the defense budget the next year. Well, how would you change it then to make it much more representative? Well, the losses in the Koran that we are verily, he will not change the condition of people until they change that which is in themselves, until they change that which is in their hearts. It deals with the values, the morals and the ethics of what man is today. When you see a kind of image that has come forth that has been projected, an image like Boy George, which is represents a kind of collective desire, a collective worship of mankind, whereby they see, you know, a kind of an it is a mutation of what man is about. It is a situation where the values and the morals have brought about a condition of moral corruption to the point where this person becomes an image that is projected into the households to the extent that you find both black and white. If you know, if you choose to look at it on the basis of race, children imitating this particular image.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=1438.56,1527.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What about Michael Jackson? Same thing. It's the very same. Same thing. I mean, you raised the issue of morals and values and judgment. Let me take you back to 1971. In 1971, the newspapers and the media portrayed you as a hoodlum, a thug, a criminal, as after being the leader of Snake, after after talking about Black Revolution. You were shot during a robbery of a liquor store. I was convicted for robbing the place in which I was accused of robbing. I point out that until today, I've never been in that place. But again, you know, as to doing the time that you were shot when you were picked up the shot. Yes. And did the time for it, you were not shot there, are you saying. No, No. I was shot down the street from where they see the incident occurred. I was shot on the rooftop down the street from where they say the incident occurred. And I did five years. And during that, during that period of time, you during the time that you were in jail in New York State, you were converted? I became Muslim in 71. I don't have a problem with being identified as being a hoodlum or whatever else. It doesn't make any difference. Again, you know, because even if that were the case in 71, again, the law says he will not change the condition of people until they change that which is in themselves. You know, I do not come forth and say that, you know, I am without fault. Anything like that is not the point. The point is that, you know, there is something better. That is something that man can aspire to. That is something that man can be other than that which has been projected, other than the concept of what America has defined, the definition that America has defined man as.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=1528.08,1623.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is a definition for man that exceeds that. It goes beyond that and it deals with morals and it deals with ethics, and it deals with the fact that, you know, man serves a worships his his creator for losses. He has created man and Gene but to worship him. Let me interrupt you for a moment. Let's take another phone call from one of our viewers. Hi, your live on City Line. Yes, hello. Yes. Do you have a question or for Mr. Brown? He said originally, I I'm from Cambridge, Maryland. And I was there the day that this happened, the evening. And he said they came, which was not much to burn down, which is sort of true. But he incited the riot along with. Okay. Go ahead. Did you ask him if he remembered Roger Richardson? Yes. Chester? Yes. Yes, I know. Gloria. Yes. Is there a question or a comment or point that you wish to make? I just want him to know that I was there when it happened and it did not happen on Race Street. Like he said, I was shot after CROSSFIRE, the rat race and our pride and said, all right, well, wait a minute. Now you're saying call it that. He incited the riot and the minister is saying that he's not inside the riot. That's that he sent out of my property, my elementary school and Cambridge has not been the scene set. Can you really incite the riot? Because at that time everybody was educated and they sort of listened and everything that he said. Okay. There is no argument there. But again, that's representative of of the difference in black America. If they came, it wasn't that much to bring it down. You know, it really is a shame because my property, you know, everything just went haywire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=1624.08,1726.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So you really should have some more meaning to why he was doing this, which I didn't really believe in anyway. All righty. Thank you for the call. That's that's the dichotomy in which I was speaking about belief. And again, you know, the lady who is she took affront to the fact that I said Cambridge wasn't much to burn down. And, you know, again, it is a thing of pride and vanity. The property that she lost of the property that she feels that she loved so dearly, then she will be denied that property anyway when she goes to the grave. Mm hmm. All right. We've got a question from the audience. Yes, ma'am. Yes. You became a muslim in 1971. What exactly is your specific goals now? Again, a muslim is one who believes that there's no God but one God. Again, there are five pillars in Islam, the first pillar being that there is no the belief that there is no God but one God. And Mohammed, speaking of the Prophet Muhammad, Ibn Abdullah, who lived 1400 years ago, that he was the prophet, the final prophet that A has sent in a chain of prophets. The second pillar is prayer. Five times a day, we pray five times a day in a prescribed manner and a prescribes terms. Then there is the fast. The third pillar would be the fast. During the month of Ramadan, we fast the entire month of Ramadan. The fourth pillar would be the payment of what is known as zakat of the charity. The poor rate and the fifth pillar would be the Hajj. We see that once in our lifetime. If we are physically and financially able, we will make a pilgrimage to what a law has said in the Koran is the first house that has been built for worship for mankind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=1728.29,1809.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those are the five pillars of Islam and the Muslims. Belief is that that he believes in all of these pillars and he puts it into practice for Islam. And there's no word in Arabic for religion. The word that is translated into English as religion. In Arabic it is Deen, and Deen means a way of life. It is a total way of life, a complete way of life. Imam, were you religious at all prior to your conversion to Islam? Again, religious by definition over here deals with a kind of of ritualistic going to institutions or to churches and things like spiritual, I think. Were you Christian, for example? I came up with the Christian church. I was you know, I was baptized and came up in the Christian church. But I think the essence of what you were asking deals with the spirit spirituality of man, more so than the institution that people. I mean, did you go to church? Yes, I was. I was baptized. And with the church. Yes. Okay. Following your release from prison, you went to Atlanta. And we're going to explore a little bit more on that as soon as we come back after we go to some messages right after this. We're continuing our discussion with Jamal Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly H. Brown. An interesting discussion, to say the least. I'd like to just before the break, Dan mentioned you're going to Atlanta. You're now a muslim minister in Atlanta, the imam of an area in the community. Is there any community activism now on your part in Atlanta? Yes, every day a muslim again, it is a way of life and it is a way that is practice on a daily basis. So every day there is, you know, activity, this prayer five times a day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=1810.46,2006.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's community involvement. There's activity with an end to relations with the community on a daily basis. But, Imam, you've given every indication that you feel that America is still basically the same as it was 20 years ago. Are you intending to be active like you were before in terms of speaking out nationally on issues? I think it's America has gotten worse, more more so than better. I think that when we observe the kind of of things that are occurring outside of the realm of man's control, it should be a warning to us. America will be facing famine if the weather continues to wreck the havoc that it has. In other words, as long as the crops are being destroyed and no crops can be planted in the Midwest because of what's now again being termed the Dust Bowl and because of the rain that comes out throughout the year and the snows and the cold conditions, you're beginning to face a situation of drought and famine, much like that was faced during the time of Pharaoh. And I think it comes as a result of the crimes that have been committed against people. But we're not heeding this. No, I don't think there is the kind of adherence, the heeding to the warnings, to the science. You look at the diseases that are common, that AIDS and herpes, these are plagues. These are things that have happened. You say that that your philosophy now is more philosophical. No, I didn't say that it was specific at the time. I mean, for example, get yourself some guns and burn this town down is very specific. I think my belief is very specific. Heed the signs of famine is very general. General, listening to people living in the middle of Atlanta, of living in middle of Baltimore, for example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=2007.18,2097.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Again, it is a thing of belief. It is a thing of faith. It is journalistic to people who don't plant. But when you don't plant, you don't control what is grown. So it's very specific. Okay. We're going to try to get one very quick call in before we end our discussion. Hi. Would you like to talk to the Minister Al-Amin? Yes, I would. Quickly, please. Okay. My original question was to know what made you convert. But at the about 71, I understand. I have a great concern for world peace. I would like to know how would you get Allah and Jehovah to make one? Because I think if you never do, you'll never have world peace. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I think that's a matter of individual perception, because there is no good but one God. And again, the revelation that was sent, the last revelation, he identified himself as Allah. So, again, it is a matter of personal perception as to how you perceive the one God. Oh, I know that was perhaps an unfair thing to do to you to give you that kind of a question in 15 seconds. But thank you for attempting that answer. Again, thank you for being our guest. It has been a pleasure. Oh, praise is due to a lot. And again, I seek refuge in a life of misleading and from being misled. And if it's anything that it is benefit, then again, all praises due to a law. Thank you again. Thank you. Amin Abdullah Al Amin, our guest today on City Line. We're going to take a break and come back with months. Good afternoon. Politics once again tops today's news cap. Gaining presidential endorsements is definitely key to all three Democratic presidential candidates.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=2098.5,2323.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So where do America's black congressmen stand with their support and allegiance? We conducted a city line survey to find out. There are 21 members of the Congressional Black Caucus. Of that number eight, support Jesse Jackson. Five support Walter Mondale and eight remain uncommitted, with two leaning towards Jackson. Mondale supporters are Congressman Mickey Leland of Texas, George W Crockett Jr. Of Michigan, Mervin DeMille of California, Charles B Rangel of New York, and Maryland's own Congressman Parren J. Mitchell. Jackson. Supporters include Congressman William Gray, the third of Pennsylvania, William Earl Clay of Missouri, John Conyers of Michigan, Ronald Dellums of California, Walter Fauntroy of Washington, D.C.. Major Owens of New York, Gus Savage of Illinois, and Lewis Stokes of Ohio. Those uncommitted are Julian C Dixon of California, Charles a Hayes of Illinois, Ed Towns of New York, Cortez Collins of Illinois's, Harold Ford of Tennessee, Katie Hall of Indiana, Augustus Hawkins of California, and Alan Wheat of Missouri. None of the black congressmen have declared support for Senator Gary Hart, with Jesse Jackson doing far better in his presidential bid than originally anticipated. What will be the overall significance of his remaining in the race up until the Democratic National Convention? This morning, I spoke with Dr. C Vernon Gray, a political analyst, to get his interpretation of the Jackson Factor. I think one of the things that we must look at is the fact that he got in the race initially to put before the Democratic Party as well as the nation, the issues that are of paramount concern to members of the Rainbow Coalition. He felt that there was still a gap between the democratic idealism or traditional American values of justice and equality and the reality of what was happening in America to Hispanics, to minorities, to blacks, women that they were suffering worsening economic conditions as well as social condition over the past three or four years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=2324.64,2454.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the Democratic Party had been solid. So he really has yet to put that before the Democratic convention. And I think he will stay in the race in order to put that on the front burner on the agenda of the Democratic National Convention. Gaining delegates has seemed to be very key to the presidential Democratic presidential nominees. Jackson has accumulated quite an impressive number. Certainly more than originally anticipated. What does that mean, gaining delegates? And what impact will that bear on the Democratic National Convention? I think you're quite correct. He has far exceeded anyone's expectation, the number of delegates that he has achieved so far. In fact, it was thought that he would not even receive a 100, but it seems that he will receive maybe upwards of 300 by the time the primaries conclude in California and a few other states next month. But I think the name of the game is achieving delegates because that's what it will take to win the nomination. There's two contests, one, the popularity of the beauty contest and the election of delegates that will take 1967 delegates to win the nomination. I think it's important that he achieve his delegate. So if you don't have the delegates in the sense you you don't stand a chance of having your agenda put forth on the convention floor because it is the delegates who participate in the deliberation. They are on the floor as the delegates who would be doing the voting. And they are able to put put your agenda forward to discuss the issues that you want to discuss and also to put you in a very good bargaining position. And I think that's one of the other things that he's aiming for, to have a sizable number of delegates such that he will be in a position to to bargain with the other Democratic candidates if it comes it comes to that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=2455.18,2558.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think he's achieved his purpose gaining presidential endorsements. How key are they now at this stage in the race? Endorsements from political people? I think, Congressman, I think it's still important because we see we still have a number of states yet to have the primaries California, New Jersey, Oregon and Nebraska. And I expect that he will do substantially well in New Jersey, where he has the endorsement of the mayor of Newark and Gibson. He also, I think, would do well in a number of the cities in California. In fact, if we look at the what he's done so far, he has won over 30 some congressional districts. In fact, he won two congressional districts here in Maryland just this past Tuesday. So he's doing well. And I think those who represents represent these congressional districts have a right to be somewhat where that's what will happen maybe in future years because of those who may run against him. There are individuals who have supported the Reverend Jackson, Dr. C, Vernon Gray, the chairman of the US Civil Rights Commission, is still standing by the commission's request that the Reverend Jesse Jackson publicly refused the support of Minister Louis Farrakhan. Clarence Pendleton says it's for good reasons that Jackson should disassociate himself from the Muslim minister. It is clear with us that. No candidate for the highest office in the land can have that office or actually work in that office with the support of those people who promote bigotry and violence. We wouldn't care whether with Reverend Jackson or Ronald Reagan or Mr. Hart or Mr. Mondale. And when the issue came up about President Reagan. We raised the same issue about Mr. Jackson. If Mr. Jackson refuses to denounce Minister Louis Farrakhan, Mr.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=2558.98,2669.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pendleton confirms there is really nothing that the commission can do. I'll have an extended interview with Clarence Pendleton here on City Line June 10th. On a more entertaining note, for the last ten years, Lionel Richie has had hit song after a hit song, something no other musician has ever accomplished. Last year, he was the only musician to beat out Michael Jackson for an American Music Award. We get an update on the career success and progress of Lionel Richie from Barbara Rogers. Nine. He is running all right. All over the music charts with one gold record after another. During the past ten years, both with the Commodores and on his own, 34 year old Lionel Richie has done something only a very few performers managed to do produce a hit song every year. You need to pay. Lionel Richie not only sings those hit songs, he writes them as well. But modest man that he is, he is not willing to take all of the credit for coming up with the ideas that produce those award winning tunes. Believe it or not, when I walk up to people, the first thing they say to me is, Let me tell you how your music has affected my life. And they tell me stories. And this guy walked up to me in a truck stop and he said, Lionel, I met this girl and she just she allows you, but she blew my mind. Well, that's my love. Truly allowed me. Ritchie realizes his ability to turn truck drivers tales into lyrics of love is a gift. He has couple that gift with a lot of hard work, and now he says the words and music always seem to be flowing. You have to understand I had a fearful period back with Easy because I figured that was the best song I would ever write in the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=2669.83,2785.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then all of a sudden, ever since then, from three times a lady on, I said, Well, I'm way over my quota for the gift. So I've just enjoyed it as. As I go out and play and as I go out and write songs is. Is just keeps coming back. What can I do? I can't help you out. Jake TAPPER. Lionel Richie, a man who is having a ball doing what he really loves to do. What more could anyone ever ask for? Reporting from Las Vegas. I'm Barbara Rogers. And finally, Rebecca murphy, a member of the Lesbian Society, is Cityline Student of the Week. Rebecca, a senior at Weston High School, is a national achievement semifinalist, a member of the school newspaper staff and the Red Cross volunteer. Rebecca enjoys working with the deaf, acting in plays, reading and watching television. She hopes to one day pursue a career in political science, concentrating in international relations. Congratulations to Rebecca murphy, Cityline, student of the Week. And that is today's newscast. I'm Tim on Tear Morph City Line up next. Happy Mother's Day. A real Mother's Day special. On today's edition of the entertainment phase, Luther Vandross singing his hit superstar and also the whispers singing this time. And. The. Before the system showed. Any. And you sound. But you're not. Oh, you remember. I'll be coming back this way. Yes. I've. I want to be. Not in my millions of babies. Every time. This way, you. Even. I. Yeah. Every. If you keep. Yeah. When are you? You think that? So. So soon. It's covered. It's go. For all that. It's big. It's never. What always seems to come. But I believe in this long. It's not my. Because without you, there's just nowhere to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477#t=2786.29,3371.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/83971/file/172477/transcript/47248/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll show. The warmth of touch. And now it's plain to see. I the love you've given to me. I've been. Stars in the sky. Oh. Don't ever. Maybe. Assessment edition of City Land. I'm Dan Hanson. Have a good Sunday. I'm Jackie O. 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