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And I'm Harold Anthony. Welcome to City life. Military life at the US Naval Academy is richer due to the efforts of today's guests and others who are members of the Midshipmen, Black Studies Club. And the club makes better officers, both black and white. But it doesn't stop there. And one of the all time greats of jazz, Ahmad Jamal, will join me later. And Charm is with his music. So stay with us. City Line is next. Hey, welcome to City Line. As we said in our opening. Military life at the US Naval Academy is richer because of the efforts of our guests. Welcome to City Line, Midshipman First Class Donna Edwards. Thank you, Chris. Christopher Thomas or Christopher Thomas, Midshipman, First Class and Lieutenant Commander Ruby Miller. Welcome to City Line. How is the naval life made richer at the academy? I think by the efforts of the Midsummer's Black Studies Club, we get a better opportunity for other midshipmen to see what black midshipmen are about, where we came from, so that when they get to the fleet to serve in the Navy, they'll have a better understanding of what some of their enlisted are like, where their roots are from now. Now, Dondi, you are the president, the current president of the Black Studies Club. Why? Why a black studies club? Why is there a need at the academy? I think there's a need for a midsummer's Black Studies Club, because if you look in the history books, there is a dearth of information on black history. We try to teach a little bit about black history to the midshipmen, and the title is as Purpose for the Midshipmen, as Black Studies Club is for all midshipmen at the Academy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=84.04,206.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is there any avenue within the midshipmen within the Naval Academy curriculum that even stresses black culture? For instance, Ruby. Yes, there is. There are a few courses. They have a black history or African history course. They have a black literature. I take a course right now that compares black and white American perspectives on certain periods of literature and literature. And this is not enough. There's more that's needed. These are new courses. These are relatively new courses. And the focus of the club is not completely internal. We reach out to kids in the community as well, which is which is a definite need, right, Especially right now in our society. Let me ask now, you are out of the 4000 plus midshipmen at the academy. They're about, what, 230, 37 black, which is the Naval Academy sensitive to the black midshipmen. Yes, they are there. Right now, there is there are studies going on for retention efforts. Look more into that aspect. There is a continuous recruitment of blacks in high school. In fact, some of the things that the Black Studies Club does now is, you know, going out to high schools, elementary schools to prepare the younger kids and tell them what they can do academically and also emphasize, you know, other aspects of just life in general, you know, how they could achieve. What are some of the issues that come up during the Black Studies clubs as you meet, Chris? There's blacks in the Navy. What they've done, certain individuals have achieved amazingly high, amazing, high levels. We try to make sure that not only as we reach out to the kids, that we reach out to the members of the Midsummer's Black Studies Club so we can present examples of positive black role models in the fleet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=208.37,321.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Take, for instance, Admiral Reason. Who was the first admiral? First midshipmen, first graduate of the Academy in his class to make Admiral the rank of admiral and was the first black to enter into the nuclear power program, nuclear submarines. So by seeing Chris here, is that also a part of you where you're strengthening the ties within the academy itself with other midshipmen? We hope to. We open all of our functions, all of our meetings, every event that we have to the entire brigade of midshipmen. It's nothing that's forced. It's by their own purview. It's up to them if they want to go. You know, when I think about I'm wondering whether or not a part of the rationale for for it was not only to sensitize the the greater community to the needs of the black midshipmen, but is it also to offer a networking network for those who are members because of perhaps isolation when you consider the numbers for blacks in the academy? Yes, it provides some camaraderie, you know, amongst the black midshipmen there. One of the purposes, you know, one of the benefits of the club itself, since, you know, they're usually only maybe three or four blacks, you know, midshipmen to accompany the company usually comprises 124 to 130 midshipmen overall. So that's one point. You know, during the month, I think everybody can get together. Let me ask, how has your life been changed by your involvement with the club and also being president? I think my life has been changed because I've I've seen myself grow since I've been in the club. Right now, I realize that my career at the Naval Academy is not just for me because there are a lot of kids that look up to not just me, but people that are my age that are doing things like going to school, for instance, after high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=322.07,425.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I have to realize that I'm a role model because I'm somebody that's doing something different. I've got some ambition, just like a lot of my peers do. Have you seen that same kind of change? Enjoy with the other blacks in the group. A lot of my closest friends take the same attitude and I was rewarded internally because I got a letter from a young man that I talked to in a high school class last week, as a matter of fact, that told me that he was very impressed by the talks that I gave. That wasn't what what what made me feel good was the fact that he wanted to do something with his life because of what he heard from me. What was the nature of your discussion? I talked to the kids about what I call being the man. You know, I talked about how the police is generally considered to be the men, but I wanted them to be the man or the woman, because that's the person that's in control of the person. That's a control of your own future because you direct everything that every success that you have, you can do. Right. Okay. What about you, Chris? What kind of impact is it had on you? I would imagine in this particular group you're in the minority. It being the minority is one of the most interesting aspects of it. For the first time, I'm trying to assimilate to somebody else's culture. I walk into a gymnasium or someplace. We're going to go to it and I'm the only white person there and they all the heads turn. And for once, I realize what people mean to be what it's like to be a minority. I mean, it's only temporary, but it still gives me an idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=426.11,502.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Plus, I also learned that not everybody's background is like mine. And the black people I knew in my background were similar to my culture. But their cultures aren't the same necessarily, and their neighborhoods are the same. Okay. We're going to continue that and talk about the tutorial aspect of the program as well. When we come back from this break. Stay with us. Okay, We're back now. Just before that break, Chris, you were talking about the tutorial program. Talk about that just a little bit more. When we go out in town to a bunch of different locations, some churches and schools and some community centers and we read this to students or help them with subjects they're having problems with, that's we do for them and it's pretty enlightening. I think they get a lot out of it. We do, too. Do you wear uniforms when you go? Do they realize that you're from the academy? That's one of our biggest purpose is to show the uniform and show that there's a personality behind the uniform so that they understand a little bit more about where we're coming from. So they're not in awe of that uniform and the brass and all of that. At first, I think sometimes they are. But once we get a chance to sit down and talk to them and spend some time with them, then they're relaxed and everything flows very smoothly. What other aspects do you believe, though, are the highlights of the program that make it so successful? Well, one one aspect is that they're really projecting a very positive image of the Navy by going out into the community. They're, you know, real good role models, really. And I think that's really important. And to see that there are, you know, black midshipmen at the Naval Academy, a lot of kids don't even know that Naval Academy Academy even exists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=502.75,667.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think that's really important. They're doing a really great job. We try to incorporate them in some of the things that going on at the academy as well. For instance, we've got an essay contest coming up for Black History Month. Some of the topics were Black American is influenced you the most, inspired you the most, and why? What strides have black Americans made in professional occupations and what can we do? Continue to continue that trend? Things like that. We want them to do something to come back to the academy so that we can have them part of be a part of our family and not just go to them. So in addition to sensitizing within your own setting of the military, the Naval Academy, you also do you have a great emphasis on young people, right? Most definitely. In fact, the motto that we have for young kids, the thing that we want to say to kids, kids from elementary school up until up until high school is something I call create. Each letter stands for something to see, stands for care about your future, Be able to make choices in your future. Our stands for Realize your potential. The E stands for exceed the expectations of others. The stands for Acknowledge God's presence. The T is test your limits and the ease endure. And all of that together is your message when you go out to the community. I think that's the end result that we want. If they remember nothing else that we talk to them about, we want them to remember to create and what it means. Does it put added pressure on you, though, that you are role models and that you simply can't enjoy your military training, but that you have an added responsibility? If you take that attitude? I think it probably would if you realize that that's something that you should want to do because you love where you came from, because those kids are just where we came from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=668.0,768.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're the same, except we've we're a little older and we've taken some of the opportunities, taking advantage of some of the opportunities that we've been given. Talk about your backgrounds. Just a little dandy and Chris. I'm from Potomac, Maryland. It's where I live is mostly white people. I'm kind of upper class. I knew there were there were black students in my high school, but there weren't that many. And they were similar to the to the white culture of the white Protestant, you know, background. And I didn't really know any black people till I came to the academy. And really I started to join the Black Studies Club early, start socially knowing a lot of black students. How did the other white midshipmen respond to you being a member of the Black Studies Club? Some of them, I guess, for what we do, most of what most students look at us for, the community service, things we do, and a lot of them, they think that's great. And it's there's no I don't think any of them even realize, you know, we don't think of it anyway. There's no pressure about it. There's no I just aged a group that I belong to. It's a group a lot of my friends are black, so it's no, there's no real issue there, I guess. And your background founding? I grew up in Philadelphia, and I guess you call it the Project of Philadelphia, an area called Germantown and then North Philadelphia to U.S. projects. There's not much more to say about it. So in that regard, you can relate to some of the young people you're tutoring. I can tell them just where I grew up from. I came from a single parent, from single parent household, and I'm making it, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=768.84,856.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, now the Black Studies Club, great. How will it serve you in the future? Well, for me, many other midshipmen who come from backgrounds different from mine and meeting the kids out in town, I'm funny about all my sailors will be like a lot of them are going to be from from the projects or from places like Potomac. And for me it just lets me know what what they're all about, what their culture is like, where they're coming from. When they say certain things, when they do things. It gives me a good background, I guess, and some as black studies where I was good because it gives us an opportunity to get together sometimes. And you feel like the positive reinforcement from. People let you have more things in common with and you succeed more while you're at the academy. And then when you get to the fleet, you hit the deck plates run running through the. Now, of course, I don't want to poke holes in the balloon here, but there are 230 members of the black. The two and 37 black midshipman, about 211 are in the magnitude of black. Why aren't the others involved? Isn't there a vested interest for them to be involved? It's progress. Personal choice. What are some of the reasons that they're not? I have no idea. We at the Naval Academy has got an intense curriculum and we try to stay active with the club. And some people just feel like they don't have the time to do anything. Midterms, Black Studies Club singing acquired nothing. So that's that's their choice. How would how does the Academy actually view the Black Studies Club, and what impact do you think it will leave? They are very positive. We get a lot of support from the commandant, from the superintendent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=857.01,953.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They support us in everything we do, including Black History Month, which is coming out. We have a pretty good program and there is not a problem at all. They're a they're great. The club has been going on now for one since 1976, 1976. We've got events lined up for practically every week. Last week we had a celebration for Martin Luther King, his birthday, February 2nd. We've got Eddie Robinson, the former illustrious coach of Grambling State University, the 9th of February. We've got Admiral Johnson, who's the commander of the naval base down in Charleston, South Carolina. So it's a full calendar every every week. Thank you so much, all three of you, for coming by. And continued good luck to you. And we hope to read more positive stories about the work that you're doing with the Black Studies Club. Thank you. Midshipman First Class Edward Thomas and Lieutenant Commander. And we'll be back right after Ashanti by Bob James and the Community calendar. Yes, it has. Miller. That's our community calendar. If you'd like to have one of your activities on the community calendar, please write us at this address. That is supposed to be on the screen right now. Well, it's the care of City Line, WJC TV, Television, Hill, Baltimore. Two one, two, one, one. If you'd like to include some of your activities. Jackie Coming up next, I'm going to be interviewing a man who was considered a musical prodigy at the tender age of four. He was performing concerts by the age 11. I'm speaking of none other than Ahmad Jamal. That's coming up when Cityline returns. Any conversation concerning musical genius has to begin and end with Ahmad Jamal. He was in town recently and I had a chance to talk about him the way he challenged music 30 years ago, and he gave a very enlightening interview.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=956.3,1264.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The keyboard represents many things and you see a challenge. The amazing thing in the. Unfortunate thing or fortunate thing about this business that you never. Finished one. Is always trying to find. His. For potential. Sounds to me are the same as they were when I was playing at three years old. I started at the old age of three. I came from a town that in that instance was not ran. People starting at that age. Earl Jonas from my hometown, who started three, also a little older than me. But I'm still trying to learn my instrument and trying to write all the compositions that are flying through my head daily. And that's what I was doing when I was young. What is it about your music that keeps it alive for you and your audiences? I think it's my life, my life experiences. I've had a lot of experiences in living. I'm drawing from when I was a kid and listening to Jimmy Lunsford and Duke Ellington and all the big bands I'm drawing from when I was 17 or 18 years old. When I first heard Charlie Parker and Dizzy Gillespie when they came. Revolutionary, tremendously revolutionary concepts. And I'm drawing from the electronic age. So I spend 3 hours. That's a lot of backlog of information. So that's what makes my music continue to grow as well. One can learn the technical aspects of one's instrument, the theoretical aspects, but you have to breathe the very important ingredient that is life's blood into these things. How do you feel about the direction of jazz today? Still not enough focus on. The thing that has put a lot of culture into our society. Is this the only art form that developed in America besides American Indian art? Both are still not given.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=1268.25,1427.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're just too. There's not enough media coverage when it comes to jazz. Not nearly enough. There's not enough FM and coverage, but there's certainly a greater focus on it than it was in 1950. And consequently, there are more forms involved, more captions, more exploitation than there was in 1950, solely because there's been a tremendous growth since then. Back in 1958, your But Not For Me album was the very first jazz album to sell over a million copies, and it stayed on the charts for over 100 weeks. What was different about your music back then that would allow that to happen? The reason or reasons for having an instrumental hit, which at that time had no parallel back in 58 628 at the Pershing, was a rare instance indeed of an instrumental breakthrough. Then I had some tremendous musicians working with me burn out for a year who was perhaps one of the most emulated drummers in the world. People. Now, if he could have patented what he did on that record, he would have made millions, because you hear it in every sector of musical drumming in our society. And I had tremendous bases. Israel Crosby used to work with Benny Goodman, myself and myself with my group in back with Benny Goodman. I started with his trio many years ago. A lot of people don't know that. But the main reason why it had unparalleled success is because it was a perfect record. And that's something that doesn't happen three lifetimes sometimes. Have you felt that way about any of your albums? Since We instrumentalists don't have breakthroughs like that use It happens with the oldest instrument in the world, a human voice. There are a few of us that have gotten that those kind of breaks instrumentally myself, Herbie Hancock, Chick Corea and Chuck Mangione, etc.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367#t=1428.45,1561.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105609/file/206367/transcript/48982/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it's very rare we we don't get that kind of audience that the the singers get. So if one is blessed or fortunate enough to do that once in a lifetime, it is a Herculean feat and is like climbing Mount Everest and but we don't stop there. I hope I can do it again. You know, I was reading one of your recent reviews and here's what they had to say about you. Pianist Ahmad Jamal is the Sugar Ray Leonard of Jazz, a performer who was quick handed in and out style. Seems flashy but lightweight until WHAM and delivers a devastating. How do you feel about that description? Well. It's certainly more powerful, more forceful. More percussive. More structured journalists has many approaches to describing the work of an artist so far with George Benson and Jamal. It's fine as long as they don't call me bad names. Ahmad Jamal, thank you so much for spending some of your time with us today. As his partner says. My pleasure. Let's do it again. That is definitely going to be the high point of my career here. Jackie. What's happening next week? Well, next week we have a topic of to be black or African-American. That is the question. And joining me next week still, Bill, I'm speaking of none other than Bill Withers be here. I'm Harold Anthony. I'm Jackie Hall. Have a good day. 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