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And tonight, we ask those of you at home and those of you on the panel, what do you think about the meeting, John Lofton?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=64.37,76.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I say we ought to keep those Cuban criminals and ban Gorbachev merry bands.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=76.91,81.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I say, I thought that it was great and it was good to have Gorbachev interviewed and so well interviewed. And I wonder why the American people didn't watch it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=82.76,92.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Phyllis Brotman I'm very happy that he's coming to the United States, and I thought the interview gave us a great beginning and an insight into the man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=92.15,99.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you, Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=100.01,100.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e He asked to come here. It's if he doesn't, his people are going to rot their livers with vodka.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=101.39,104.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Gorbachev's on his way. And other subjects in the news tonight. What did you say as we square off? Good evening, everyone. Saturday night at 730, this is the first square off of the month of December. How time flies. It's amazing. And time has flown. And on Tuesday, Mikhail Gorbachev will sit down with President Reagan. This is the eve, the Saturday night of the mobilization for Soviet Jewry, which they hope will be a gigantic march in Washington tomorrow to show Mikhail Gorbachev opposition to his policies, his human rights policies of Soviet Jews, 400,000 who want to leave that country. And your reaction to the upcoming summit, Alan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=106.0,149.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Was very simple to understand. The Russians have traditionally negotiated from a position of self-interest. The Russian consumers are in such a desperate strait right now with the failure of five year plan after five year plan that they not only have two or three families in an apartment even raising the price of vodka, Richard, they are still drinking it by the bucketload. What else can you do in a country where there's no opportunity to do anything else but what the state tells you to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=150.67,179.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm almost beginning to believe, and it's a little farfetched that even Malcolm Forbes will be asked to go to the Soviet Union and use his capitalist tool policy so that the Russians can begin earning some dollars that aren't given to them by the government, especially in farms and in manufacturing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=179.74,195.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the Soviet Union is not that degradation, as you want to call it. I think the United States has its problems too, and I'm glad that these countries are going to come together and at least discuss nuclear war so that we can live a while longer and both of us grow and become better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=196.69,212.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You say keep the Cubans and ban Gorbachev. What does that mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=212.78,215.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We indeed, the United States does have its problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=215.96,217.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And we will talk about the Cubans. I'm sorry to interrupt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=217.99,219.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Muchas gracias. And one of our problems is we're going to have Gorbachev here this week. What else could Ronald Reagan do? Well, Ronald Reagan might have kept his promise ever since he was starring in Bedtime for Bonzo. Ronald Reagan told us that we've got to stop signing pieces of paper with the Soviet Union, with the idea being that this somehow enhances our national security. He said it doesn't, that they're liars, they're cheaters, they're murderers. They don't keep their word. They can't be trusted. So what happens now? He's president. Now he's signing pieces of paper with communist telling us this is going to make our security better. And I'd like to know why. Why are you happy? You actually use the word happy about the Gorbachev meeting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=220.78,259.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that any time two people can sit down and talk, even if it's through an interpreter, that pleases me to know that they are at least trying to bring the two nations together. We have a lot we have a lot at stake, John, if these two nations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=260.29,273.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't tell me this. Tell me this, though. You're not going to deny that Gorbachev is a liar, a cheater, that he's presiding right now over the murder of the country of Afghanistan, men, women and children. Why is it something to take heart from when, you know, when two people sit down and watch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=274.0,289.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you going by, John? You have to look at the fact in this interview the other evening was a perfect opportunity for the Americans to understand this man, even if we thought for any rate. Oh, John, come on, now, you've got on the other side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=290.14,307.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I just want one other thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=307.36,308.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You're not able.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=308.41,309.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To give him a chance. To do what? To cut our throats.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=310.06,312.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Not to sit down. Listen. To discuss. Listen. If they discussed it like we're discussing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=312.49,316.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Sometimes dialog is better than no dialog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=317.8,320.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely wrong, John. Fellas, you don't watch what Communists say, fellas. You watch what they do. John Gorbachev is a liar. I professional.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=320.47,327.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Liar. I would rather have him here and face to face discuss with them. Will you let me get finish my sentence. If I can let the president get a word in edgewise, then they'll never be able to discuss.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=328.51,339.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Hold on. Very. Please go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=339.64,341.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But the point is, the United States has something very great at stake here. Not only is the rights of people are at stake, but our countries are manufacturing wars, Star Wars. I mean, you've got to look at this and be logical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=341.38,354.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Very clear that this mindset.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=355.6,356.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=357.79,357.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How long everything the Russians have to say is a lie, is a mindset that we must get rid of in this country. There's a discussion to be had on both sides. We stand at the brink of nuclear war, and nuclear war will not just destroy the Russians, it will destroy us. And we have to. Yes, I am serious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=358.1,376.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you seriously contesting the idea that the Soviet communists lie and have lied repeatedly and broken American lies?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=376.93,383.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All real breaks? And so we're just like the ones in Nicaragua that are just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=384.4,388.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, why don't you go to Russia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=389.11,389.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I know, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=390.22,390.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Just as bad. We know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=390.73,391.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=391.84,391.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Why don't you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=392.41,392.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Go? Oh, my blood is here, and it will remain here until I'm satisfied.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=392.8,395.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you that, John.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=396.67,397.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But I talk to your adversary also carries with it some risk. I understand the paper where your column appears regularly in Washington, DC, says that when Mr. Gorbachev arrives on Tuesday, he's going to offer some extra plums. Those plums will include withdrawing 60,000 troops from Europe, which has not appeared in any other newspaper, by the way. A reduction of 1200 tanks. It seems to me that when you pull back a little bit, there is some merit. Now, there's also some risk because we've also learned that the SS 25 ICBM is convertible to an IRP. So what you're dealing with here is a man who is under great pressure at home because his economy stinks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=397.72,438.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But, Alan, you know, we're not talking just about talking with the Soviet Union. We're talking about the idea that we enhance our national security by signing pieces of paper with the Soviet Union. We've tried that for 20 years in this arms control area, Alan. They've broken every arms control.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=439.62,455.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e John you're overlooking. So we're.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=455.64,456.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Going to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=457.47,457.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Overlook one on site inspection that is not that has never been that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=458.82,462.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This issue is not the issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=463.02,463.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It is you have to have competent inspection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=464.34,466.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me tell you why verification is a phony issue. We have had verification in the past. We have verified numerous Soviet violations. And they say take your violations and stick them in your ear. The issue is compliance, Alan. We shouldn't be treated with the Russians until they abide by the ones I've already signed, and they haven't done that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=467.43,485.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan. John.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=485.28,485.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e When you bring people from the Soviet Union to the United States, as we propose to do, and take them to Utah and let them hang around the Thiokol plant and our comparable people go to the Soviet Union. Your piece of paper is enhanced.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=488.22,501.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But you missed my point. This is an important point. We in the past have numerous times verified Soviet violations. We've gone to the Little Standing Consultative Commission in Geneva and said, You're violated. They say, Oh, no, we're not. What are we going to do when we find a violation? 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So what I'm saying is people Americans don't have the mindset this time of the year. 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They know that you don't watch a communist. What do you see? 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Now, let me tell you what's inside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=635.71,637.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What the Last Dragon touches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=637.92,639.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On. Really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=639.48,639.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I see Reagan's just as bad as the communist view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=639.99,642.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you. 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The deal was that there would be a straight interview, according to Brokaw, and Gorbachev said, no, I'm going to make an opening statement. And I saw on The Today Show, Brokaw and the head of NBC News, Larry Grossman, standing there mute while Gorbachev produced the interview and said, No, I'm going to have an opening statement. 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You say you could come out of here. You could.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=791.45,794.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, let me tell you this and let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. NBC News would never, ever let Ronald Reagan determine the format of an interview. They'd tell him to stuff it for the communist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=795.09,804.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Time and they didn't. Nobody was going to They don't even.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=805.17,807.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Broadcast.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=808.11,808.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Some of those opportunities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=808.95,809.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e For you to call Reagan and say he's just as bad as it. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=810.69,813.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=814.02,814.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Really? What is Reagan doing this Like what the Soviets found.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=814.74,817.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e They're doing it. Don't answer. Stop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=817.29,818.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There's no answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=819.0,819.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Talking about the Cubans rioting at prisons in Oakdale, in Atlanta, that situation quieted down somewhat. But now the the the merry little refugees do not want to be deported. They do not want to go back to Cuba. How would you handle the situation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=819.81,833.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, we have to look at we have to look at the human rights aspect of this. First of all, we got to talk about not keeping promises and little pieces of paper. Look what happened when President Carter made the agreement with with Cuba that these people were going to come into this country. And who do we get but the dregs of the earth in Cuba. Yes, you can. And now they're Cuban communists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=834.78,855.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, yes, the Cuban communists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=856.23,857.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But he said John Carter, he said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=857.85,859.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What it was like in here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=860.55,861.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e He said what he was going to send here. He didn't make any bones about it. He said, I'm sending you my mentally ill, my incapacitated. And that's what's coming. 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But the point is, is that there's a human rights question, just as there is a human rights demonstration that's taking place on Sunday. 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The question here is, what do we do with human beings who have been here, who have been probably in many in some cases, for one, understand, rehabilitated? What do we do with these people? And the question is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=888.84,901.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What's the answer? 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They'll probably be in jail like they're in jail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=931.14,933.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, from the settlement at Oakdale, we get some indication of the truth of this situation. When the guards finally came out, they said many of the Cubans inside had more of their people in lockdown than the guards had in lockdown. Now, we can't generalize about the Cubans because some of these people are hardcore criminals. You know, there was a situation where Fidel Castro bragged and laughed that he was sending us his scum. Some of these people should not be released, even though they have been held seven years. 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How are you going to send them back if they're going to riot if you try it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=969.69,973.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they've been dispersed now, and that's another question, Richard. These prisons were given 1 hours notice that a deal had been cut with Fidel Castro. That's outrageous for maximum security prisons to be given 60 Minutes to prepare for an announcement that these people are going to be sent back to Cuba. What did they expect them to do? 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Yeah, Reagan is cutting the deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1081.44,1083.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I know what the deal is. I look, I don't I don't want to send even scum, quote unquote, back to Castro. What was done was done. They're here now. I don't know why we're spending so much time on this either. I mean, we have a lot of prison riots in this country. Why? 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I think there are a lot of prison riots. And I had bet my last dollar that there are prisoners around the United States that have watched closely the doings in both the Louisiana and Georgia prisons. And if they discover that you get your way by burning down prisons and by holding hostages and singing songs of liberation, you can also bet your last dollar that we're going to see this again in our own prisons with Americans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1104.78,1134.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's also significant for for people like our fellow panelist here who think that we're as bad as the communists, that many of those Cubans are saying they'd rather die here in America than go back to the Communist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1135.86,1148.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Party.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1148.73,1148.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Of Cuba.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1149.6,1149.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That we commit around the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1150.26,1151.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Like all our atrocities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1152.12,1152.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Like what? Like what we are doing in Nicaragua.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1153.83,1154.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What's the question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1155.72,1156.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The atrocities of the Contras against the central government. 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I want to talk to you. We have a couple of minutes stop and a few subjects. We got to just run through these. The great debate the other night on Tuesday night, 12 Republican and Democrats on the stage of the the Eisenhower stage of the Kennedy Center. And did anyone win? 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Any one impressed you? Not impressed you on each side. Democrat. 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So nobody impressed the Democrats.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1266.57,1267.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, in agreement with Reagan, it was the Republicans who disagreed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1268.58,1271.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Jesse Jackson impressed me. 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He said that Jesus last night on Earth, that Jesus spent it with Simon the leper. Well, I wouldn't looked up the references. There's a couple of references to Simon. The leper. Mary was at his house when he anointed Christ with oil. Jesus spent no last night on Earth with Simon the leper. Jesse Jackson just makes this stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1290.87,1311.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't. 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The new mayor is bringing in his people, but it's far too early. You know, you have big problems. He is going to be a short honeymoon. Then he has to provide solutions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1337.19,1344.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I tell you what, I like the mayor elect to do that. What he's doing is he's having his inauguration at 6:00 in the evening, which gives schoolchildren an opportunity. This is serious to give schoolchildren an opportunity to witness something in which they can possibly look at him. As a hero or someone to look up to, which is we're in short supply of these people. 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The man came to us without a platform and program in supposedly a highly intelligent and well qualified individual. Why would he come to the people? Why would he come to the people of Baltimore without a platform and a program knowing the serious problems that we have in this city?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1380.08,1396.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62834/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And I'll tell you something, I was at a meeting with him in which he asked Dr. Kissinger about what the United States would be doing with South Africa and the companies, what his suggestions were for the companies in South Africa, American companies. 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It's if he doesn't, his people are going to rot their livers with vodka.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=101.39,104.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Gorbachev's on his way. And other subjects in the news tonight. What did you say as we square off? Good evening, everyone. Saturday night at 730, this is the first square off of the month of December. How time flies. It's amazing. And time has flown. And on Tuesday, Mikhail Gorbachev will sit down with President Reagan. This is the eve, the Saturday night of the mobilization for Soviet Jewry, which they hope will be a gigantic march in Washington tomorrow to show Mikhail Gorbachev opposition to his policies, his human rights policies of Soviet Jews, 400,000 who want to leave that country. And your reaction to the upcoming summit, Alan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=106.0,149.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Was very simple to understand. The Russians have traditionally negotiated from a position of self-interest. The Russian consumers are in such a desperate strait right now with the failure of five year plan after five year plan that they not only have two or three families in an apartment even raising the price of vodka, Richard, they are still drinking it by the bucketload. What else can you do in a country where there's no opportunity to do anything else but what the state tells you to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=150.67,179.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm almost beginning to believe, and it's a little farfetched that even Malcolm Forbes will be asked to go to the Soviet Union and use his capitalist tool policy so that the Russians can begin earning some dollars that aren't given to them by the government, especially in farms and in manufacturing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=179.74,195.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the Soviet Union is not that degradation, as you want to call it. I think the United States has its problems too, and I'm glad that these countries are going to come together and at least discuss nuclear war so that we can live a while longer and both of us grow and become better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=196.69,212.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You say keep the Cubans and ban Gorbachev. 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I'm sorry to interrupt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=217.99,219.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Muchas gracias. And one of our problems is we're going to have Gorbachev here this week. What else could Ronald Reagan do? Well, Ronald Reagan might have kept his promise ever since he was starring in Bedtime for Bonzo. Ronald Reagan told us that we've got to stop signing pieces of paper with the Soviet Union, with the idea being that this somehow enhances our national security. He said it doesn't, that they're liars, they're cheaters, they're murderers. They don't keep their word. They can't be trusted. So what happens now? He's president. Now he's signing pieces of paper with communist telling us this is going to make our security better. And I'd like to know why. Why are you happy? You actually use the word happy about the Gorbachev meeting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=220.78,259.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that any time two people can sit down and talk, even if it's through an interpreter, that pleases me to know that they are at least trying to bring the two nations together. We have a lot we have a lot at stake, John, if these two nations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=260.29,273.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't tell me this. Tell me this, though. You're not going to deny that Gorbachev is a liar, a cheater, that he's presiding right now over the murder of the country of Afghanistan, men, women and children. 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John Gorbachev is a liar. I professional.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=320.47,327.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Liar. I would rather have him here and face to face discuss with them. Will you let me get finish my sentence. If I can let the president get a word in edgewise, then they'll never be able to discuss.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=328.51,339.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Hold on. Very. 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I mean, you've got to look at this and be logical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=341.38,354.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Very clear that this mindset.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=355.6,356.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=357.79,357.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How long everything the Russians have to say is a lie, is a mindset that we must get rid of in this country. There's a discussion to be had on both sides. We stand at the brink of nuclear war, and nuclear war will not just destroy the Russians, it will destroy us. And we have to. Yes, I am serious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=358.1,376.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you seriously contesting the idea that the Soviet communists lie and have lied repeatedly and broken American lies?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=376.93,383.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All real breaks? And so we're just like the ones in Nicaragua that are just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=384.4,388.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, why don't you go to Russia?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=389.11,389.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I know, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=390.22,390.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Just as bad. We know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=390.73,391.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=391.84,391.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Why don't you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=392.41,392.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Go? Oh, my blood is here, and it will remain here until I'm satisfied.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=392.8,395.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you that, John.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=396.67,397.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But I talk to your adversary also carries with it some risk. I understand the paper where your column appears regularly in Washington, DC, says that when Mr. Gorbachev arrives on Tuesday, he's going to offer some extra plums. Those plums will include withdrawing 60,000 troops from Europe, which has not appeared in any other newspaper, by the way. A reduction of 1200 tanks. It seems to me that when you pull back a little bit, there is some merit. Now, there's also some risk because we've also learned that the SS 25 ICBM is convertible to an IRP. So what you're dealing with here is a man who is under great pressure at home because his economy stinks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=397.72,438.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But, Alan, you know, we're not talking just about talking with the Soviet Union. We're talking about the idea that we enhance our national security by signing pieces of paper with the Soviet Union. We've tried that for 20 years in this arms control area, Alan. They've broken every arms control.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=439.62,455.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e John you're overlooking. So we're.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=455.64,456.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Going to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=457.47,457.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Overlook one on site inspection that is not that has never been that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=458.82,462.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This issue is not the issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=463.02,463.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It is you have to have competent inspection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=464.34,466.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me tell you why verification is a phony issue. We have had verification in the past. We have verified numerous Soviet violations. And they say take your violations and stick them in your ear. The issue is compliance, Alan. We shouldn't be treated with the Russians until they abide by the ones I've already signed, and they haven't done that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=467.43,485.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan. John.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=485.28,485.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e When you bring people from the Soviet Union to the United States, as we propose to do, and take them to Utah and let them hang around the Thiokol plant and our comparable people go to the Soviet Union. 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I wouldn't have a question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=550.5,555.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I've got to say something because we're almost out of time on the subject. And that is why, in your opinion, if Gorbachev is so stimulating, so interesting, we've never had a real close up and personal look at him. Do you think that his interview the other night, his first and only exclusive? 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So what I'm saying is people Americans don't have the mindset this time of the year. 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They know that you don't watch a communist. What do you see? 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Now, let me tell you what's inside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=635.71,637.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What the Last Dragon touches.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=637.92,639.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On. 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The deal was that there would be a straight interview, according to Brokaw, and Gorbachev said, no, I'm going to make an opening statement. And I saw on The Today Show, Brokaw and the head of NBC News, Larry Grossman, standing there mute while Gorbachev produced the interview and said, No, I'm going to have an opening statement. 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You say you could come out of here. You could.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=791.45,794.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, let me tell you this and let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. NBC News would never, ever let Ronald Reagan determine the format of an interview. 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Nobody was going to They don't even.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=805.17,807.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Broadcast.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=808.11,808.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Some of those opportunities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=808.95,809.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e For you to call Reagan and say he's just as bad as it. 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What is Reagan doing this Like what the Soviets found.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=814.74,817.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e They're doing it. Don't answer. 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But now the the the merry little refugees do not want to be deported. They do not want to go back to Cuba. How would you handle the situation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=819.81,833.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, we have to look at we have to look at the human rights aspect of this. First of all, we got to talk about not keeping promises and little pieces of paper. Look what happened when President Carter made the agreement with with Cuba that these people were going to come into this country. And who do we get but the dregs of the earth in Cuba. Yes, you can. 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He didn't make any bones about it. He said, I'm sending you my mentally ill, my incapacitated. And that's what's coming. 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But the point is, is that there's a human rights question, just as there is a human rights demonstration that's taking place on Sunday. 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The question here is, what do we do with human beings who have been here, who have been probably in many in some cases, for one, understand, rehabilitated? What do we do with these people? And the question is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=888.84,901.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What's the answer? 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They'll probably be in jail like they're in jail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=931.14,933.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, from the settlement at Oakdale, we get some indication of the truth of this situation. When the guards finally came out, they said many of the Cubans inside had more of their people in lockdown than the guards had in lockdown. Now, we can't generalize about the Cubans because some of these people are hardcore criminals. You know, there was a situation where Fidel Castro bragged and laughed that he was sending us his scum. Some of these people should not be released, even though they have been held seven years. 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How are you going to send them back if they're going to riot if you try it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=969.69,973.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they've been dispersed now, and that's another question, Richard. These prisons were given 1 hours notice that a deal had been cut with Fidel Castro. That's outrageous for maximum security prisons to be given 60 Minutes to prepare for an announcement that these people are going to be sent back to Cuba. What did they expect them to do? 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Yeah, Reagan is cutting the deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1081.44,1083.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I know what the deal is. I look, I don't I don't want to send even scum, quote unquote, back to Castro. What was done was done. They're here now. I don't know why we're spending so much time on this either. I mean, we have a lot of prison riots in this country. Why? 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I think there are a lot of prison riots. And I had bet my last dollar that there are prisoners around the United States that have watched closely the doings in both the Louisiana and Georgia prisons. 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I want to talk to you. We have a couple of minutes stop and a few subjects. We got to just run through these. The great debate the other night on Tuesday night, 12 Republican and Democrats on the stage of the the Eisenhower stage of the Kennedy Center. And did anyone win? 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Any one impressed you? Not impressed you on each side. Democrat. 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So nobody impressed the Democrats.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1266.57,1267.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, in agreement with Reagan, it was the Republicans who disagreed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1268.58,1271.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Jesse Jackson impressed me. 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The new mayor is bringing in his people, but it's far too early. You know, you have big problems. He is going to be a short honeymoon. Then he has to provide solutions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541#t=1337.19,1344.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118886/file/223541/transcript/62970/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I tell you what, I like the mayor elect to do that. What he's doing is he's having his inauguration at 6:00 in the evening, which gives schoolchildren an opportunity. This is serious to give schoolchildren an opportunity to witness something in which they can possibly look at him. As a hero or someone to look up to, which is we're in short supply of these people. 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