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Tonight on Square Off we ask the question, do you agree or disagree? Reverend Peter Waldron. Affirmative action is America's apartheid. Suzanne Wagner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=8.01,26.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I agree. I think that it is not in keeping with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=26.74,29.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e the tenants of our country. Janet Dates. I disagree. Pendleton again is being a negative activist. Genetase. and i think we all have to be careful of people like that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=30.03,38.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Isiah Fletcher. Richard, it does not demean their progress, it demeans the democratic way of life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=38.51,43.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about affirmative action and other subjects in the news tonight and show you our brand new square off set tonight as we square off. Well, here it is, ladies and gentlemen. We've been on the air for nine years. We were on that little set in the club basement for seven, and we now would like to show you our new home. There it is. We're in one room. There's a room back there, and this is where Suzanne and Peter and Janet and Isaiah and I are living for the next 30 minutes. You missed the clock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=44.33,82.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I miss the clock, I love throwing out the old wine skin, I love the new wine skin. This is beautiful. Do you like it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=83.28,88.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is there really a room back there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=89.33,90.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There is a room.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=90.36,90.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e back there, I'll show it to you later if you behave. All right, let's get down to business and we want to thank Ron Mackey for designing this set and we hope you at home enjoy it too. It's a little more modern than the old club basement with the dart board and the wax fruit. Let's talk about affirmative action. You don't like what Pendleton says.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=90.97,106.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I don't. We're talking about goals. We're not talking about quotas. We're talking about keeping black people at least in some parts of the mainstream of society. And what's happened is people have confused goals and quotas. When you're talking about goals, what happens is that you're saying to an employer, okay, you set a timetable for when you're going to reflect something of the population of the community where you are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=106.5,130.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e no matter how you address the issue it's still discrimination we're talking about a nation which has had enough discrimination in it without continuing a program which has failed if anything i want to raise my black son in an environment where in fact he will have equal access equal opportunity without being favored because he is black","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=130.139,148.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not saying favor, and we can get to that. I agree with you. I think that affirmative action deals with more than blacks. It also deals with women. It deals with all minority groups, Hispanics, all those people. If I get hired as a woman, I want to be hired because of my qualifications, not because I'm a woman. That's not what it's about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=148.83,165.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It is sheer, sheer idealism to think in terms of being hired because you are qualified and Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=164.82,170.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e qualified black or because you're a qualified woman. That is not the way our society is. There has been preferential treatment based on the fact that you know somebody. It just happens to be that the in -crowd will always hide the in -crowd. That's very cynical. We'll always hide the in -crowd. That's very cynical. We're always highly in crowd.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=171.03,183.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This nation has succeeded because of its idealism. We continue to work toward perfection. And in working toward it, there are rough ends. We can't accept your negative historical perspective. We need to appreciate that we're an idealistic nation. What we need to do, again, you're lying. Would you come home with me? There are ruffins we can","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=183.58,191.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e What we need to do, again, you're lying, you're telling me what we need to do. The reality. We need to work for it. You cannot tell me, you cannot convince me that the reality is that blacks have been treated equally to white in the society. It's a ridiculous statement. What we want to do...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=197.1,210.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What we want to do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=209.43,210.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e The Constitution talks about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=210.88,212.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's very easy for a white man to sit here and say we ought to go back to the old way man to sit here and say, we ought to go back to the old way, and the old way was fair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=213.09,218.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not saying the old way was fair, I'm saying we were wrong. I'm saying the Dred Scott decision was wrong. I'm saying that all the racial discrimination for 170 years in this nation was wrong. But I'm saying we're not going to correct it by continuing to perpetuate a program which is going to favor one group because of it. One group because of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=219.16,233.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It's color.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=233.72,234.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I say, order here, as you said, please hold it right now. How do you make it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=233.94,236.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, wait, folks, even on this new set, we have to talk, try to talk one at a time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=236.47,241.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that you're awfully cynical about the way the country works. First of all, we're in a free market system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=242.31,247.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e The free market system, the fact is that first of all, when you look at unemployment today at 7 .2 % and you look at it for blacks at 15 % and 40 % for black youth, are you telling me that it's equal? I'm saying... 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Let Suzanne respond.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=261.29,263.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't answer why the statistics favor the white population in unemployment against the black population because it's a very complex problem. the statistics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=265.1,273.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, come on now, you're popping out. Are you sure you have the statistics? Wait, wait. Isaiah, the statistics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=277.15,281.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We have the statistics perpetuate a poverty industrial complex which is perpetuated for the very purpose of perpetuating civil rights activism. Peter, what are you saying?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=280.88,289.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Peter, what are you saying? What are you talking about? I am talking about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=289.03,291.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I am talking about a failure of a system, the civil rights system that came in with the great society years, war on poverty in 65. Poverty won and unfortunately the programs that are perpetuated unfortunately have hurt the black people. We need to encourage incentives. We need to encourage opportunities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=290.75,306.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e But you're talking about black people as if they were a separate entity from this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=305.35,308.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I wish they were not. You people develop, you socialists develop a separate environment entirely for the health of the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=308.93,315.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a second. He's a socialist. One second. He's a socialist. Peter, relax. Peter, your racism just came through. One second. You said, you people. You socialists. No, you said, you people. You said you peop -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=315.0,323.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e And when you say you people to us, you're talking about you black people. 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Get back to one at a time. Go ahead, Janet, respond.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=330.93,336.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Alright, I can answer your question. You said you don't know why there are more whites who are in positions of power and who are able to really get into the mainstream and be a part of that. Oh, I didn't say that. I said I can't answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=336.4,344.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't answer why unemployment is greater in the black community than why it is in the white community. Same thing. Same thing. and I can...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=343.37,350.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Same thing, same thing, and I can tell you why. Tell me why. Because the old boy system that we just finished talking about works in favor of the whites who have been in power. We have the same kind of system in this country that they have in South Africa, only it is not as recognized.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=348.75,362.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I can turn that right around to you and say you called it the old boy system Why are we talking only about blacks? The old boy system works in favor of men and not in favor of women, however I'm not in favor. I as an individual who has been trained and have a profession when I am out there competing in my community with my career potential, with my qualifications, I want to compete. Suzanne, with all due respect to your gender.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=362.03,381.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I want to compete with my qualifications, not with my gender. And so do blacks. But they know that in every situation, the first thing people see is the color of your skin. They see that you're female too. Yes, they do. But you know as well as I do that you have not been discriminated against as a woman nearly as much as black people have been discriminated against. I can't tell you that. not with my gender. They see that you're a female too. I can't tell you that. I can tell you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=381.27,405.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I've been discriminated against as a Jew, too, practicing law. All right, and I have, too, but the discrimination is not... I have been practicing long. All right, and I have to. Oh, come on. Thanks for watching, and I'll see you in the next one. Stop crying about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=404.19,410.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That's just it. I'm going to weep for the Jews. I'm going to weep for the women. I'm going to weep for the blacks. Why can't we work toward a system which is equal? Peter, that's what I... That's just it. That's just it. I'm gonna weep for the Jews. I'm gonna weep for the women. I'm gonna weep for the blacks. Why can't we work toward a system which is equal?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=411.1,418.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Peter, that's what I've... Peter, you haven't been listening to me then. What I'm saying is, yes, all of us have faced discrimination of some kind or another, but it's time... That's right. Try to concentrate on building a system that doesn't concentrate on what you're trying to do. Let me give you some suggestions. Let me give you some suggestion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=419.02,434.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Number A, let's create some incentives in these areas where housing has been provided subsidized as well. Why not give the opportunities for the couples to purchase the homes on their own? Why not develop economic incentives for black businessmen and other minority groups to start their own businesses? Why are we always undermining by giving preferential treatment? We don't need preferential treatment. We need equal treatment. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=435.45,453.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Alright, Isaiah, now folks, let Isaiah respond before everybody jumps out. You know, p -night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=453.61,458.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, Pete, I listen to your language very carefully, and you give these suppositional kinds of phrases. Why don't we? Why can't we? You know, that's supposition. The fact is that you can look at life two ways. You can look at life as you would like for it to be and the way it is. We must deal with life the way it is. I am definitely, and I have said that I am not a proponent, a wholly proponent of affirmative action, and I have a reason for it, because I believe in the democratic way of life. and the pursuit of happiness. And yet at the same time, I have been a recipient of affirmative action. If it were not for it, many blacks would never move into higher level positions because they're controlled by people who are gonna take their own kind and put into those positions. And there are specific examples of people who talk for their people, my person, to get into the slot and therefore exclude all of persons who are not like my people. The in group survives, the out group struggles to get in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=458.29,511.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We've got to work to bring the outgroup to the inside. We have to work, yes. We don't do it by affirmative action programs, by legalizing or legislating discrimination. We need equality, we need equal access, we need equal opportunity. We do not need preferential treatment. We have to we don't do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=511.65,514.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e In the meantime, in between time, what do we do? We continue to... In the meantime, in between time, what do we do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=524.98,527.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that is exactly the point. We continue to work toward success. All right, that's exactly what he's saying. We can get to the point where we can, in fact, have equality. And everybody is for that. I think Isaiah and I both are saying, yes, that's fine. That's a goal to work toward. to work with. All right, that's exactly what we said. what happens in between time. We have people who are being lost along the way because in fact we do not have this ideal society that we'd like to have. So we want what you're saying but we're not there yet. And what's happening is that black people are being put out of jobs because they do not have a cousin, an uncle, a grandfather who was in the business. So we want what you're saying, but we're not there yet. And what's happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=527.86,550.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you how we deal with it in the present, education, education, more education, and more education. Isaiah, what's wrong? We've come a long way. She says, you know. You're dreaming. Isaiah, what's wrong? We've come a long way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=558.88,567.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Suzanne, you know, I listen to people who live in insulated, isolated worlds and croppants say education, that is not a panacea because first of all, let's look at education. Let's look at education. First of all, you had a separate but equal system. You had an inferior system. You have many places in the country today where per capita expenditure for black education is much less than it is for whites. You also have a system where you have had blacks who move into a good educational system. As soon as they move in, whites move out, and the system deteriorates. Worlds. It's just - So you have a system that you're talking about, a system that there are so many variables and you say education, as if that's the only variable with which you must deal. You must also deal with housing, which is also a part of it. I said, I said, I said,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=567.9,609.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I say I want to straighten something out when anybody talks about poor people or unemployed people you take it upon yourself and you've done this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=608.29,617.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I've been met some odd hominem, don't talk about me personally, talk about the issue. Don't talk about I've been met some odd hominem, talk about the issue. Don't talk about me, personally, talk about the issue. Don't talk about argument about how many. Talk about the issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=617.35,622.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But what you're going to say is, we the black people. And then you look at me and you say something new in your insulated, isolated position. I didn't say you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=623.05,629.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't say you, Suzanne, I said people who live in insulated, isolated worlds. Now if you decide that that shoe fits your foot, then you put it on. I said people who live in insulated isolated world","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=629.03,632.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e in one sort of experience. I see ya, I see ya. One more minute. There are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=637.72,640.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Isaiah, Isaiah, there are other incentives. We have education incentives, there are economic incentives. We need to encourage those incentives to break down the barriers. Without a vision the people perish. Unless we are idealistic and motivated by a better world, we are not going to accomplish anything with your discouraging sentence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=638.48,655.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e with your discouraging sense. Beautiful pie in the sky. So what about reality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=654.49,658.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It was the reality of the understanding that this could be a great nation that motivated men to sit down and sign the Declaration of Independence, to draft the Constitution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=659.44,666.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e The draft of the Constitution could be could be could be yes, that's the birth of success that is the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=665.07,671.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It is so complex, I think we all want to see some of the things that you're talking about. It's so complex that you cannot say there are two ways to do it, there are three ways to do it. It's got to be met in many ways. And this is one of them. affirmative action is filed. Anyways, and this is one of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=673.11,684.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If you had said that, Rosa Parks never would have gotten on that bus. If you had said that, Martin Luther King would never have walked down those streets. If I had said what? If you had said just what you had said. What? If I had said what? If you had said just what you had said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=684.76,694.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What, that is complex?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=694.34,694.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e then it's complex.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=695.13,695.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And that it has to be met in many ways.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=696.02,696.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It was simple. Rosa Parks walked and she says, I'm not moving. That was not complex. That was simple and that's where it begins.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=696.55,701.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You're crazy. That's exactly what she did. She took one way and you had people out in the street who took another way and you had many different ways of addressing the same issue. And so what I'm saying is it's so complex. We've got to have the roads apart. We've got to have the, you know, wrap grounds. We've got to have the Martin. We've got to have the mountains. We have to have the commercial breaks. One way. You know, we just got to have We don't do that. We don't do that. We don't do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=701.69,719.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e If you have the commercial breaks, we'll have one. The Supreme Court this week agreed to decide for the first time whether the Constitution prohibits states from regulating private sexual activities between consenting adults. Twenty -four states in the District of Columbia have laws making those sex acts a felony punishable by a prison term and fine. This act applies to heterosexual as well as homosexual activity. We're talking about sodomy laws and in Maryland there is a sodomy law and the The question is. should the supreme court be asked to do this should the states be legislating the sexual activities between consenting adults in the first place in private","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=719.97,774.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm going to tell you my opinion on that right now. I resent having my tax money spent having legislators and justices deal with where people put their genitalia. I agree. Karl Marx said...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=775.94,786.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Karl Marx said that if we separate a people from their history, they're easily persuaded. What has made this nation great is our foundations which are rooted in Judeo -Christian ethics. Mark said that. which consider homosexual activity as an abomination to God. This, however, is not how specifically... No, that's not how bad this heterosexual little skirt. We're talking about homosexuality. Are we going to legalize it or not? We must continue to condemn homosexual activity and behavior. It must be unlawful. We're not talking about that. This, however, is not specifically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=787.589,800.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e and behavior. It must be unlawful. We're not talking about that. We need to clarify a point. And that point is we're not talking, when we talk about sodomy, we're not saying strictly homosexuality. We're talking about also heterosexuals who also engage in certain practices. What bothers me about it, I don't agree with sodomy, but what bothers me about it is the fact that the government is trying to say, I have a right to go into your bedroom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=810.93,830.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It has had them ripe for 190 years, my good friend. That doesn't make that ripe good. It makes that ripe good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=830.47,836.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e It is stupidity because how do you enforce a law unless you have a militaristic state to say I have a right to come and knock your door down and come to your house and say that They have that right. Peter!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=832.74,836.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They have that right now. Peter, who's going to be the policeman? They have that right now. I have that right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=845.52,847.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e now to go into the bedroom. If you're, if you're abusing that person, if you're torturing that person, if you're going to kill that person, if you're going to have pedophile... Hold it, Peter. Calm down. First of all, we're talking about... If you're going to kill that person, if you're going to have a pedophile, if you're going to have sex with a child. Peter, stop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=847.71,856.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e First of all, we are talking about consenting adults. We are not talking about tying up a person outside, dragging them into your room and playing havoc with his soul and body. We are not talking about pillaging and plundering other human beings. We are talking about consenting adults that want to go and not use their genitalia the way you want them to use their genitalia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=857.26,878.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Suzanne, tell that to Gary Studs, a representative from the state of Massachusetts, who in fact got a 16 -year -old boy drunk, sodomized him, seduced him. on a 16 -year -old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=877.26,883.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Was he a consenting adult? That's a different issue. It's not a different issue. It's a different issue. That's a different issue. It's not a different issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=885.77,890.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We're arguing consent. Who's going to define consent?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=890.91,892.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, well. Who's going to define consent? Are you going to define consent? Are you going to define consent? Yes, in the law you can define capacity. A person with capacity can give consent. A person without capacity can't give consent. Isaiah, please. Who's going to find this? Are you going to find this? Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=893.34,896.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e This had to do with a case, and I forget where it was, but the policeman went to the apartment for one, on one case call, and went into a bedroom and saw two men engaged in an act of sodomy, and therefore they brought this case about, and they were sued, the case came about later. Again, Peter, you talk about the law has always had that right. My understanding is that when you are in your home and someone decides to come into your house, then you have the right. You're lord and master of your house, and therefore if they misbehave, you have a right to put them out or to take some action to keep them there in case they break into your house. If we had the power... Thank you. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=903.799,945.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If we had justifiable cause or reason to believe that illegal activity is taking place in the home What do you mean? If they're making drugs, can we not break the door down? But you said probable cause Hold on. No, but you said probable cause.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=944.1,954.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You cannot do it without due process of law. You need a court order. We need a court order.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=955.42,958.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. You have to have a clue. We have no laws broken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=958.97,960.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e We have no laws broken, but here again, he was not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=959.34,961.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But here again, he was not breaking the door down to see them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=961.2,963.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e When you talk about, first of all, you cannot legislate. You cannot legislate morality. You cannot help but legislate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=964.61,970.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But legislate morality Peter who's going to police this action? Are you going to get to walk into people's homes and examine and how are you going to do it? What is probable cause gonna be moaning outside the bedroom?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=970.02,981.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e outside the bedroom window, that's going to be problem for us. And the thing that's important to think about here, too, is this is what happened with prohibition. It was a law that could not really be handled in such a way that you could actually work it out so that it made any sense at all. So that's why they had to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=980.65,996.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So that's why they had to suspend with having people deal with it. We have important news. I can't believe this. Let's deal with affirmative action. I can't believe this. Let's deal with desegregation. Let's deal with civil rights. Let's deal with things that need to be done. I can't believe this. Well, I can't believe this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=994.74,999.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e And we can -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1005.62,1006.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e We can also deal with issues where somebody is doing something that is not consent. I mean, I'm willing for us to spend tax money where you have someone who has in fact been dragged in. Or a child or a person who doesn't have the capacity to understand what they're doing. Where you are getting into an issue where you're pulling them in, seducing them and doing all that kind of thing. But I resent it, as you have indicated, when you do this kind of thing and it's consenting adults. Hold on. Here. Okay, then. I'll take it. I'm doing all that for the job, wait a minute, wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1007.91,1026.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you what I would like to see them come in and police. I think it's a waste of our time. How about sexual harassment in the workplace? There's an aberrant sexual behavior that I could live without. That I don't mind having my. You're going.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1031.93,1041.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e behavior that I could live without. That, I don't mind having my tax money spent on Oz. It's called Oz. The point is, even that. to Oz. It's called Oz. Sexual harassment you still cannot enforce it because first of all men have accused women of sexual harassment What does sexual harassment mean if a man a woman says let's have cocktails and women do said these days So what do you talk about sexual? How do you police that kind of thing? So what we're saying is that we have a bunch of laws on the books that we're wasting money for not only in terms Of going to people's bedrooms, but we have a lot of laws that can't be enforced in the first place right and you're saying let's Right. make laws that we can't enforce. It's stupid!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1038.96,1075.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, I'm saying let's not make laws that we can't make. No, it's making the law. And let's not even pay to have them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1075.47,1079.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm saying no one's making the law, no one's making the law, the law has been on the books for a century and a half, we need to appreciate the purpose of the law, the purpose of the law was to protect the family, the same reason that adultery is against the law, that incest is against the law, that fornication was against the law, homosexuality, what's next, bestiality and pedophilia, when are you going to draw the line? Never feel. We need to appreciate the purpose of the law. The purpose of the law is to protect... What is the purpose of the law? against the law.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1077.74,1094.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e necrophilia will draw the line at necrophilia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1102.58,1103.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Draw the line at Necrophilia. No, we don't draw the line at Necrophilia. We do whatever we possibly can to preserve our society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1103.12,1108.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The question is, if two adults agree that they want to be together in whatever way they want to be together in private, they agree to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1108.58,1116.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e As long as one doesn't violate the rights of another by causing him irreparable damage or harm. But you don't ever get consent to being killed. or damage your heart. But you don't, you never can, you can't consent. You know, I mean, you can't get the sense of it. Well, but we were talking...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1116.03,1125.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, but we were talking about, we were talking about sodomy and not being killed. Oh, I know, after watching the consequential.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1124.73,1130.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e After watching the consequences of homosexuality behavior and their particular perverted form of sexual intimacy, we need to recognize...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1129.93,1137.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're making a judgment call.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1136.51,1137.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We're not making a judgment call. It is a sexual, intimate behavior, which in fact... You called it perverted. It is perverted. You call it perverted. It is perverted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1138.01,1142.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To you it's perverted. To them what you do is perverted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1143.08,1145.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Then what you do is perverted. They may very well think so. The standard by which I live is the Holy Scriptures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1143.87,1148.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the problems we have today is the overcrowding of jails. Now, if you're going to legislate some of the so -called perverted acts that people engage in, heterosexuals and homosexuals, then you'd better build more jails. First of all, you better have more police to enforce the law. to go around knocking on people's doors at a certain time of the night or in the evening to see what they're doing. You've got to enforce the law, and once you do that, you're going to have to hire more judges. Now, where's the money going to come from, from a realistic standpoint? I am not for, I am not promoting sodomy. I am not saying right or wrong in terms of morality. But I am talking about the government's right to come inside of my house and tell me what I should do. We -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1149.24,1189.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We also live in a society where there's a fixed number of dollars and we have to set priorities. We've set defense as a priority, we've set social security as a priority, health care as a priority. I think the last thing on the list of priorities is coming into somebody's bedroom. Coming into my bedroom is not a priority. It's coming into somebody's bedroom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1189.06,1204.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You're projecting a picture which is not reality, Isaiah. Peter, I think in this picture you stand alone. 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The Prince and Princess of Wales.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1221.73,1227.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e After sodomy, you're talking about the rings and princesses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1228.06,1230.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, there is no connection. Anyway, they came to Washington this morning. This is a very, very big story. It's all you've seen on television this week and weekend. Washington this morning. It is all that is on your major newspapers and magazines, your People, Life, Time, and all the magazines. What do you think about all this pig? I mean, the country has really gone for dimania. 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I mean, I think it's fine for people who want a fantasy. I have enough to do in my life that I don't need a fantasy. Wait a minute, were you invited? Were you invited? Invited, yes, to look at People magazine and all the other publications. Of course, just like everyone else, I don't do it. I think it's great that they're - I'm not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1310.36,1311.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's great that they're visiting. Who would want them to live here? We don't need a king, we don't need a queen, we don't need a prince. You mean they're nice people to visit you wouldn't want them to live here. 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If they had wanted me, who would want it to, you know, I wouldn't have wanted to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1361.03,1364.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Here again, I think this is a solid rape, so we're talking about if we had received invitations. Because the experiences that you have, which are rewarding experiences, and if you had a chance to talk with them, or see them, that would be a rewarding experience. And it doesn't mean that I wouldn't go because I don't like kings and queens, or prince and princesses. It's an experience. We have many experiences that we don't particularly say that I engage directly myself, but at the same time when you learn something, you are there that much more enlightened. You took this real serious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1365.47,1392.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would just like to see more emphasis be put on the reason that they're in this country and that's the promote Their eyes are fixed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1391.53,1398.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e this hour on this program they're watching this show I want them to and if they are what would you say to them Peter right in the camera three go ahead what you say hello how are you doing we'll be back in a moment Here's the address, write to us about what you saw tonight or about our new set, whatever, and join us again next Saturday night at 7 .30 when once again we square off. Good night, everyone. Thanks for watching! Tonight on Squared Off we talk about the big news story of the week, of course the hijacking on Malta, the death of sixty or more people. And tonight we ask the question, if you were calling the shots would you have sent in the commandos? John Lofton.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1398.58,1453.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely, Richard. If there's any hope of solving this problem, we've got to meet force with force.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1454.35,1457.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Suzanne Wagner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1457.96,1458.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I think I would have done it. 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I think the decision to do that was both hasty and irresponsible. Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1465.59,1472.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, absolutely, Richard. Not only would I have sent the commandos, I'm just sorry that Hosni Mubarak hasn't cleaned up the Libyan jackal Qaddafi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1472.97,1480.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about the hijacking and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. All right. What is it? This is your first time on the new set. Oh, it is. It is. And I'm, uh, appalled, basically. Why? I mean, you're talking about the music. You're talking about the set. 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I'll talk to you later. she has her own public relations consulting firm she's married with two children a son and a daughter and then is very active in the republican party so that should make you feel good john","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1513.819,1528.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e No, not necessarily. Why? Well, all Republicans aren't sound thinkers. 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Let's get to the hijacking now. Hosni Mubarak, you wish he would take on Gaddafi and get it over with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1540.94,1547.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e There's no question about a Libyan link, Richard. As a matter of fact, Abu Nidal, who sometimes goes under the name of Comus, lives in the Tripoli area, under the protection of this madman. And following a Washington newspaper's publication that indicated that we were trying to topple his government, he's gone completely nuts. He was goofy before, but he's really lost at this time around, and we have to get this guy out of the way, or planes are gonna be dropping out of the skies like confetti.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1547.76,1575.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e why should the the egyptians go nuts along with him and risk fifty nine lives to with with that was just totally insensitive i mean unless they actually knew that there was not any other way to save the rest of the people in the airplane why just go and storm in have those people were killed during during the raid of the commandos","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1576.97,1596.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the problem is they were killing people before the people were sent in. I think it's very easy to have hindsight on this. Nobody is in favor of what happened, all those people being killed, but the idea that if you wait things are going to get better doesn't necessarily follow at all. I wish it did, but I don't think it does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1598.68,1616.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e but how do we know that that those that we could have saved we could not they could not have saved fifty you know fifty nine people You have 59.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1616.37,1624.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e We don't know that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1625.03,1625.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We don't know that we don't know that they don't know that they could have saved anyone, but if you don't take any action at all You're gonna lose everyone the you you have a total Exposure of losing everybody that's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1624.98,1637.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, but couldn't they have waited until they knew for sure? No, the answer is no, they could not have waited. Because, see, remember what the eyewitnesses said. No, the answer is no. They could not have waited. Because, see, remember what the eyewitnesses said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1637.7,1644.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute. Remember what the eyewitnesses said. The people who survived said that when an execution took place, the killer sang and danced up and down the aisle of the airplane. We're not dealing with Western logic. We're not dealing with Western philosophy. We're dealing with religious zealots who think this is great stuff. You shoot somebody in the back of the head, then you sing and dance a while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1644.7,1666.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And you can't threaten them, Beverly. You can't threaten them because they find it to be wonderful to die for the greater glory of Allah. So therefore you can't reason with them. These are people that you cannot reason with. But obviously we're not reasoning very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1667.53,1679.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e to when the pilot when gala said that he felt that he wished that they could have waited it was it was printed he said that he wished that it could have been waited a little longer how do how does one know that now is the time to go in and raid okay and 59 people lost their lives because of that but better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1680.04,1691.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You have to put yourself in the...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1698.38,1699.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, that's very...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1699.92,1700.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e position of the people who are making the decision, the pilots in the plane, and he can make that decision but he can't call the shots from outside the plane. The people outside the plane did not have the benefit of the knowledge of the pilot. They were making the best decision that they could. I probably would have waited a little longer myself just to see. They were making the best decision that they could. But then you have the responsibility of those people who are also going to be executed or put in danger right on the plane. I know, I've... 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These are not rational thinking people. Anybody that will hijack an airplane is not thinking clearly. This young man, okay, Marzucchi, 20 years old he was, okay? And here he is, he's the only survivor. Of course, he may be thinking like that. Why do we have to narrow our thinking down or narrow the thinking in order to be on the level of these guys? I mean, they were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1749.58,1776.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e See, one of the things I reject...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1774.89,1777.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Why, why, why put yourself on their level?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1777.14,1778.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the things that I reject is this idea that these terrorists are really mindless. Not to be sure, there are different things in their minds that are in our minds, and we don't characterize what they do as rational. But they do think, they do have clear goals from their perspective in mind. and I cannot help but believe... If you're not thinking rationally. It will be a factor in their thinking if they have a real reason to believe. reason to believe. that they will be met with swift and deadly force. It has to be a factor. They have to think about it. It can't be oblivious to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1778.54,1806.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e John, I would like to pose the suggestion that when you take a view of the fact that you did lose 59 people on that plane, and now we know that these kinds of numbers can happen, that you can't lose this many people, suppose they had totally ignored the entire situation. Rather than storming the plane, that that plane just got left there with the hijackers on board, with the people on board. You're taking the same chance that they'll either give up, walk off the plane, come to you to make a decision. or they may blow up everybody on the plane. Would that not also have given the kind of suggestion to the terrorist community that we're not even going to pay attention to it? In a different kind of a way, it's even a stronger statement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1805.32,1846.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's not lose track of the Libyan connection. When this plane was on the ground, these skyjackers made telephone calls to representatives of the Libyan government. It was only after the governor of Malta refused the fuel that the Libyan government started to back away. And the fellow from the Libyan government on Malta, who went to talk to the skyjackers, went away and was recalled to Libya almost in the same moment. Now, it seems to me very clear here. that we can talk about mindless religious zealots, but we're talking about people who are politically astute. They just happen to guess wrong this time because the governor of Malta stood his ground. And yes, there not only should have been an attack here, but now we have learned through other published reports this week that some 200 of these fanatics are running around the world with suitcase bombs looking for airplanes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1847.03,1898.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e What about the 59 people that lost their lives?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1899.57,1902.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely tragic. And everyone should mourn that loss of life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1902.84,1906.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll be back in just a moment to talk about teenage pregnancy. Well, there has been a letter circulating among Maryland lawmakers this week encouraging advocates and opponents of abortion to support a $3 .2 million program to fight the problem of teenage pregnancy. And Maryland is high on the list in this country. The governor's task force on pregnancy recently produced a slate of recommendations. They include in -school health clinics and counseling, better character education, and a requirement that teenage mothers live with their parents to be eligible for welfare payments. Should this money be spent? Is it necessary, or is this not the way to attack the increasing number of teenage pregnancies? Beverly, what do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1906.59,1962.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that the money should be spent. I think that these young people who have made the mistake or they have not been trained at home not to be immoral or whatever, I really believe that these young people should be educated and we must do something about teenage pregnancy or else we're going to have a society and we're going to be run by people with infant mentality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1963.37,1984.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll go along with everything that they're suggesting except for the requirement that the young mothers have to live in the homes of their parents in order to receive their welfare payments. I think that that's not fair to the parent of the minor child who has had the baby and I don't think it's fair to the baby. The ultimate people that are being punished are the infant and the parents of the teenager.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=1985.17,2006.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e no none of this money should be spent for that the problem is it's based on a faulty premise and that is that the teenage pregnancy problem is an informational problem it's an educational problem that kids have sex because they simply don't have enough information to know that having sex uh makes babies in the past decade billions and billions of dollars has been spent to give more information we have more information in 1985 about these problems than we've ever had in our history and we have more pregnancy. The problem is it is a moral, ethical character. The parents don't teach their kids absolute right and wrongs anymore. The schools don't teach it. That's the problem. It's not a money problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2007.58,2045.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I'm passive on whether or not you should spend the money, Richard. To me, the real question here is dealing with the young studs who sire the kids. Now, let's get down to the street with this. We know that in the urban environment, fathering a baby is a macho thing. We also know that within a couple of years, the young men who father the babies are nowhere around. So, society takes over the full responsibility for the child. When is society going to say to this young man, If you play, you pay. and you pay for the child until the child is grown. What's wrong with responsibility? Well, but the pro -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2046.45,2081.949"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e The problem is that there's no such thing as a societal responsibility. That's an obstruction. Only individuals have responsibility. And the fact of the matter is that from the early part of this century and all the previous history of our country... the main purpose of education was moral and ethical. It dealt with what they used to call heart knowledge. Reading, writing, and arithmetic were nice, but they weren't the central things that kids had to be taught. The central things had to do with how you function in the world, and they had to do with morality. John, that's absolute nonsense. John. John, that's absolute nonsense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2081.969,2113.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e One more time, please. Hold on. 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On the contrary, the only real way you're gang...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2122.33,2131.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e will be controlled is by a thought that's inside your head. 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John, go to a pioneer cemetery and see how old the mothers were when they had children in those early days.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2137.11,2144.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e We're talking about unmarried teenage pregnancies. Those women were married, Alan. John, your idea. I don't know where you -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2143.9,2150.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know where you've studied your American history, but I'd love to see some of those books sometime. You seem to think that we have emerged from some kind of puritanical age into an age... Absolutely. Absolutely. into an. of consent. That's nonsense. People have been doing it in cars, behind barns, and underhouses since time. Alan!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2148.47,2162.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e has been here. No, Alan, no, no, it is a lie to encourage people to believe. has been here. that the way things are now is the way they always were. Now, you used the word puritanical. It just so happens that the Puritans who founded this country established education for the central reason of reading the Bible. That was the most important thing, to know God's word and to behave accordingly. You ought not to disparage that heritage, Alan. but we have a separate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2167.96,2190.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But we have a separation of church and state in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2189.36,2192.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you want to reintroduce them? Wait a minute, I'm hopping into bed strictly for the role of procreation. Hold on a moment. Do you want to reintroduce them? Wait a minute, I'm hopping into bed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2193.81,2196.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Basically, you want to reintroduce religious education into the school system, into the public school system. Is that what you're turning this into, John?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2199.86,2207.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Good grief, we had this sort of school system at the time the people existed who drafted the Constitution. It's not unconstitutional to teach ethics and morality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2207.38,2216.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e To teach ethics and morality is it? We're totally off of the subject. No, this is totally off the subject. I'm saying, we must understand that it's happening. No, this is totally on the subject. All right, I got it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2214.98,2220.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2225.06,2225.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e At first you were calling them illegitimate, then all of a sudden when it no longer was an urban problem, then they became this great single parents, okay? It is happening. There are kids as young as ten years old having babies. Well why not educate these young people? Educate them to do what? What would you tell them? To teach them how to be parents. Let's roll models. Wait a minute. To teach them how to be parents. Teach these young people, you have babies raising babies. Nobody's denying that. Educate them to do what? What would you tell them? To teach them how to be parents. Let's roll model.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2225.07,2246.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2252.96,2253.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e many times these babies who are raising these babies have come out of families who were also, their mothers had them as teenagers. Let's get down to reality. That's where I'm trying to get. Let's get down to reality. the families who were also, their mothers had them as teenagers. Let's get down to reality. That's where I'm trying to get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2253.37,2263.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e If you would allow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2263.76,2264.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e If you would allow me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2264.13,2264.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm trying to get to reality! I am trying to get to reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2265.359,2266.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's do a little psychodrama here. I'm a teenage girl sitting here, and I'm telling you that I'm thinking about becoming pregnant while not married. Tell me why that's wrong. Tell me why that's wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2267.83,2275.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute. Tell you why that's wrong. Why shouldn't I do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2276.09,2278.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Why shouldn't I do that? Yes. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2277.28,2278.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean listen, 95 % of these young teenagers, they don't sit down and think about, oh today I'm going to be pregnant. What would you tell me? Now come on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2278.65,2285.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e What would you tell me now come on why is it wrong? Why should I not do this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2283.66,2287.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Why should you not sit down? Because it's just not you. First of all, you should not sit down as a teenage girl without the job, without a married husband, and decide that you're going to... That's right. a husband and decide that you're going to... Is it wrong? It's not, yes it's wrong, because first of all, because when you have children... By what standard is it wrong?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2287.81,2302.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e By what standard is it wrong?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2302.48,2304.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Beverly, I think you're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2304.53,2306.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that's what you're forgetting. I think, I think that's what you're forgetting. Why is it wrong?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2305.22,2310.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute, you're not going to put me on the defensive with this, you're not talking about the issue that Richard introduced, what Richard introduced is a 3 .2 million dollar program to educate teenagers, not just why is it wrong, we're not interested in why it's wrong, we're interested in what are the consequences, what are you doing, are you willing to accept the consequences? Excuse me, wait a minute. defensive with it. That's right. interested in what are the consequences? What are you doing? Are you willing to accept the consequences? what are the consequences are you willing to accept the consequences of your act therefore when you have that information in front of you with the thirteen fifteen or seventeen the child makes that decision to go ahead and have that baby is doing in an informed circumstance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2310.2,2345.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, look, people like you use this word, education, like a magical incantation. It is a magical incantation. But you know what? It doesn't stop girls from getting pregnant. Educate them for what perspective. It is a magical incantation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2346.08,2353.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Neither does religion stop people from getting pregnant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2356.69,2359.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell us, tell me from what perspective you educate them and what do you tell them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2357.81,2362.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm going to tell them that in our society, raising a child entails the following. You are responsible for the acts of your children. You're responsible for having to support them. Oh, really? Who's supposed to be responsible for the acts of your children?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2363.49,2372.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh really? Who says? By what standard are you responsible? Who says you're responsible?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2372.27,2375.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm waiting for the day when your psychodrama can be carried to reality and you can walk to the coat room of a school, open the door. John, it's a wonderful art - I'm waiting for the day. Find a couple of kids humping and say, you know, this is really morally wrong. And the founding fathers established religious principles. Now stop humping and listen to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2378.08,2396.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, well you may ridicule this idea of God all you want. I'd like to ask you, do you think it's wrong for an unwed teenage girl to get pregnant,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2396.25,2403.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I think it's absolutely wrong, John. Absolutely wrong. John, I'd like you to go out and talk to some of them and give them some of this mythology that you're trying to pass along. Absolutely wrong. John, I'd like you to go out and talk to someone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2404.2,2408.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Now tell me why. Tell me why. By what standard is it absolutely wrong? No, no. By an individual. Why? 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This is a nation of civil law, not religious law, and we don't apply your religion, John Lofton, or anybody else's religion to those laws. apply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2414.83,2421.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e There's no law against a teenager getting pregnant. What is the reason you would tell a teenage girl not to get pregnant? You said it's absolutely wrong. Responsibility, John. Absolutely wrong! Responsibility, John! 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Now, you used the word, let's not get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2438.25,2453.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e let's not get personal fellows you used the word responsibility it's not responsible it's not responsible to what to get pregnant","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2452.88,2460.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e try to sell this garbage of religion that you've been trying to sell to us. trying to sell to us. Oh yes, I can't articulate this, John, because you're the same... Oh yes, I can't articulate this, John, because you're the same... You're the same fellow","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2462.94,2473.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e John, you're the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2473.48,2475.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e You're the same fellow who became a 20 minute expert on South Africa because a white church group paid your way over there. You're the same fellow who becomes a 20 minute expert when you're in the company of some of these electronic media preachers. And I can understand that. It pays well, John. You get to travel and see the world. But I don't buy it. All right. Now I want you to know that you're going to be able to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2474.99,2495.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e notice what Alan has done. Three times I've asked him by what standard it's absolutely wrong for a teenage girl to get pregnant, and three times he's attacked me personally. Now none of the three of you, all of you have said it's wrong for a teenage unwed girl to get pregnant. You all have said it was wrong, but when I press you by what standard is it wrong, all three of you flounder and flub around, and that's why we have the to get pregnant. I never said that. Y 'all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2495.73,2509.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the issue is not whether it's right or wrong, it's understanding the responsibilities and the legal sense of what you have done when you have had a child out of wedlock when you were a teenager. That that child is your responsibility. You have to pay for it, that you have to pay to raise the child. This is what we're dealing with. It's right pay to raise the child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2516.72,2535.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e This is what we're dealing with. Absolute right and wrong. So your position is that it's not wrong for a teenager who's not married to get pregnant then? This report. Absolute right and wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2536.16,2538.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e My position is that it has nothing to do with whether I believe it's right or wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2541.91,2546.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e all right if i may let me say that this report also talks about dealing with the causes of teenage pregnancy such as unemployment among teens deterioration of values Deterioration of And family values and family responsibility. What did you say, John?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2546.0,2557.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, sex is the cause of the teenage...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2558.16,2560.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, how do you tie that into religion and say that it is not wrong, that it is right? Well, we tie it in that I'm going to tell you. I'm a child that is not married, and a child! I mean, we're talking about teenage pregnancies, okay? Pregnancy. Well, we'll tie it in, but I'm going to tell you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2561.3,2568.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. And for the overwhelming... How can you even find the new mind to say that that's right? Well, of course I can't do anything as long as you keep asking me questions. 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The fact of the matter...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2579.56,2582.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e The fact of the matter is that for the overwhelming majority of the history of our country, we taught our children about God, about morality. I have no problem with that. Well, I'm glad to hear that. And I'm sure God's a Lord to life. But would you talk as if kids are idiots? They can't understand anything. I am not saying that. Of course they understand. I have no problem with that. 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You teach them to be moral, you teach young people, set examples to them, if there's sex, sex, sex, sex, sex all over the newsstands, all over television, it's just sex everywhere. And these young kids, we just expect them after they're going all over the place seeing all this stuff to just come back and say, oh now we're going to be these nice kids. Now, I am saying that now that we have all this blurted out in front of their face, we must teach these kids, if you have made a mistake, my dear child, there is a way for you to find help for the mother and the father. See, we're talking about the mother here, but I'm talking about the father. There's a little boy, and this little boy is not saying he's so macho. I disagree with your statement in the urban area, it's a macho thing to have for a boy to make a girl pregnant. That is not so. many times it's a mistake and then when you have schools the schools that there's nothing there's not any sports and half the time the kids there's not the libraries the kids are not interested and they don't have anything to do. Teach them what? What do you mean, teach them what? No, no, the way you... Thank you. I don't think there's some - The kids are not interested, and they don't have anything to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2603.91,2668.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Beverly, when you talk about a mistake, a mistake happens once. I'm not going to teach you about condoms. It's when you have repeated pregnancies among the same teenage girl several times. When you allow that teenager to go out and live in her own apartment for welfare. That's what maybe if we put $3 .2 million into an educational program. You allow that teenager to go out and live in her own apartment for welfare. Maybe if we put 3 .2 million dollars into it. maybe if we start some educational programs with this three point two million dollars and follow some of these maybe we will stop the rep that's a few more millions of dollars i agree these things. Oh, sure, sure. That's a repeat mistake. Just a few more millions of dollars and we're going to stop it. I agree. 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Incantation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2710.17,2710.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e You're panicking you want to stop it you want to just tell them it's wrong, but you have no basis to your argument","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2710.88,2715.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll add one word to your list. I'll add exorcism. 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I see, I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2730.83,2735.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e And by the way, that was a brand of religion in our friend which for hundreds of years kept teenagers un -pregnant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2738.98,2744.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2745.09,2745.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh really? Read your history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2745.71,2747.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e There were a few people, Cotton Mather, the Spanish Inquisition, wonderful times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2746.17,2750.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e It kept people from knowing that a lot of the teenagers got pregnant. Let me tell you that. We'll be back. Wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2751.43,2751.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll be back in just a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2755.35,2756.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't go!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2757.839,2758.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We got a mailbag filled with letters last week, and here is a letter from Jim Staton of Baltimore who writes, I am tired of Billy Murphy making excuses for hoodlums. I just hope that none of these crooks gets to his family. A letter from Dr. Paul S. Wheeler of Baltimore who writes, the death penalty is carried out in this country as amoral and barbaric, but not for the reasons debated on your show. It is a waste of vital organs. Robin Abrams of Baltimore writes, I am so amazed that the Reverend Peter Waldron would stoop to personal attacks on Ms. Stein and Mr. Murphy to prove his sick ideas. M .J. Robinson of Butler, Maryland, writes, it is just like legal thieves to say that women are uninformed. Ronald Reagan isn't informed either. Robert Daly of Cambridge, Maryland, writes to square off my instant coffee table survey of six women's magazines, failed to mention throw weight, Geneva Summit, or Afghanistan. And thanks to the other 70 of you who wrote. Also Roy Davidson of Pasadena, Gail Blakeslee Baltimore. Rick Boulay of Baltimore and G .M. Dowdy of Baltimore. Here's the address. Write to us to square off WJZ TV, Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland, 21211. About anything discussed tonight. And Beverly, you've had your first shot on Square Off. You're out of breath. What'd you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2769.61,2843.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e Ah, it was great. It was great. I don't know where you got him from, but we'll deal with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2843.47,2848.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Mr. John. Well, he'll be back again, right. Right. Join us again next Saturday night at 7 .30. Have a great Thanksgiving weekend. We'll see you next week. And once again, we square off. Good night, everybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2848.89,2857.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2859.63,2859.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e The erectile tissue in the nose bud is responsible for controlling the heat of the air that you inspire. In other words, if you inspire real cold air, remember we talked about your nose dripping, the erectile tissue swells up to heat that cold air. That's what that swells from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2885.13,2901.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e So when we start sniffing, and this is, we've heard about this for years, children are sniffing glue, sniffing drugs, cocaine, does that come into effect with that rectile?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2902.26,2912.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think, you know, people, most of the time when they do an intranasal drug, they're doing it for the drug experience. Although, even when the, there's a lot of, a lot of people will buy stuff that isn't a drug to sniff. You know, peppermint snuff and stuff like that, because it's somewhat of a sensual experience to sniff anything in your nose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2913.53,2935.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's dangerous, isn't it? Isn't that one of the focuses of your book, Cocaine Abuse?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2935.83,2939.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yes, yeah, cocaine abuse is one of the focus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2940.53,2942.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The person who uses cocaine is doing what to his or her nose and brain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2942.56,2946.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e uh... it's intranasal chemical warfare they're uh... they're gradually rotting away the uh... the nasal tissues cocaine is used medically as a nasal anesthetic it's the best nasal anesthetic there is it's still used today and it's very safe when used in that setting but uh... the way it's used in a street environment is not a safe way","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2947.15,2966.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e recreational drugs ok uh caller you're on channel thirteen's people are talking hello caller","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2966.49,2971.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You there, line three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2972.38,2972.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Speak up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2973.37,2973.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Went to blow her nose. Oh, you're on the air. Hello? Are you there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2974.23,2979.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 17:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, oh My nose is dry all the time and it has a tendency to bleed I was wondering what I is that from a head cold","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2981.19,2989.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh, not necessarily. Is it more dry in the winter? Which, oh, over here, yeah. Is it more dry in the winter?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2990.89,2995.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2995.78,2996.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's pretty standard and some people are more affected by others than others. You should get a humidifier and you should keep the humidity at about 50%. The reason it bleeds is because you know how the door, it's hard to shut the door in the summer and then you can shut it easily in the winter and there's air that blows in underneath it. The moisture gets into the door in the summer, swells it up and it cracks it in the winter. Well, it does the same thing to your nose tissue. uh... the dry air will crack your nose tissue when it cracks it bleeds plaster on the wall the door uh... if there's not enough moisture in it it cracks the same as your nasal mucosa","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=2997.13,3032.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e My nose man told me to use a spray called Ocean Spray. uh... toll which is which is not a nasal spray it just it just more","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3032.37,3041.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 18:\u003c/strong\u003e What's with the cranberry drink?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3041.45,3042.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no, no, no. No, no, that's good. All it does is moisturize the nasal membranes so that it won't crack. Do you know the ocean spray? Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3042.19,3051.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that a good idea? I think that either ocean or salinex, they're comparable products but really all they are is salt water and you can mix your own. It's just sea water with a preservative in. That's all ocean is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3052.09,3064.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So would you recommend that, keeping the nose dry? Yes, I would.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3064.77,3067.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I would. I'd recommend salt water to keep the nose wet. That's the best way to do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3066.71,3070.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But when you do it yourself, how do you get it? What, do you get an eyedropper and just shoot it? I mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3070.45,3073.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e you either yeah or you can or you can just sprinkle a little salt in a shot glass and just sniff it up out of the shot glass you know or you can get an atomizer and spray it up you have you know uh... anyway","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3074.34,3086.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e I can never sniff things. I hate things going up my nose. That's it. We have a lady at the back of the question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3086.57,3092.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e Good morning. I have a chronic sinus problem and I take prescription antihistamines. Going back to the answer you gave about nasal sprays, will antihistamines do the same thing to your blood vessels in your nose and is there a warning signal for that type of thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3092.05,3111.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e uh... antihistamines can help uh... the side effects of antihistamines stop most people from taking them all the time they often cause nausea uh... vomiting and they and make it dizzy uh... although some people are less affected by others and a lot of people switch around from antihistamine to antihistamine until they find one where the side effects are minimal they make it dry in the mouth too uh... so it's uh... i like the moisturizing better because you know you're just instead of making you dry from the head up. but I think they are useful adjuncts sometimes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3111.95,3143.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 19:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you for your question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3143.98,3144.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I have to ask you this, and I don't mean this to be funny, but what is the danger for people who pick their nose and people who pull nose hairs out of their nose? Because a lot of people pick their nose. And I was told, not that I was, I heard that it's not a very good thing to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3144.67,3159.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, there's one danger that we always talk about, which I don't really think. I've never seen it, although we always talk about it. The vessels that drain your nose go into your brain. So they drain through the brain and into the subdural veins. So if you wind up picking a pimple in your nose, theoretically, you could wind up with a brain infection. So that's very serious and very scary. The most common problem with picking your nose is chronic nosebleeds. Thanks for watching! And although most people think that the most usual cause of a perforated septum is cocaine, it's not. The most usual cause of a perforated septum is chronic nose picking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3159.69,3199.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3200.04,3200.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e See? I told you that was a serious question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3200.58,3202.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e I can't give you a straight face. Yes, your question. I can't get it straight. I would like to know if a child or adult has a stuffy nose, does it cause ear infection too?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3203.709,3211.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, it does. Because all those nasal tissues are swollen, and it's swollen in the back around that little tube that goes up to the middle ear. So the tube draining from the middle ear to the back of the throat gets clogged up. The fluid backs up, and then it gets infected. Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3212.83,3227.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e What did you do with the with the problem? Like? Yes. What did you do? And has it been chronic, has it been a... Somewhat. Somewhat, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3228.39,3234.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Why do hairs grow out of your nose? Thank you. We only have 30 seconds left. I can load it with nose questions. Why do hairs grow out of people's noses?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3234.33,3240.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know, in some, some, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3240.96,3242.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Is it part of the filtration?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3242.02,3242.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I can't Well, it is. I mean, everybody has some here in their nose, but some people get it growing all the way down to here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3243.83,3249.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Some people have it so long you could braid it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3249.26,3251.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3251.84,3252.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What should you cut it? Grow a mustache. The book is called Nasal Maintenance by Dr. William Stewart and this is the only book of its kind and Dr. Stewart. Bye -bye, Dr. Williams. We'll be back in just a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3253.21,3265.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e You're great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3266.89,3267.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 20:\u003c/strong\u003e While staying in Baltimore, people are talking guests are chauffeured by Sun Limousine Service serving the greater Baltimore area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3404.87,3410.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I'm really excited because right here, live on People Are Talking, we are going to see a new male model become a star. We're gonna have Joe Hunter here, and right now we want everyone, if you have a good -looking boyfriend, a wonderful -looking husband, or if you know that the guy at the corner store is good -looking, send his picture in. Or both. We're going to have an address for you just a second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3412.24,3432.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, now, Joe Hunter is from the world -famous Ford Modeling Agency. He's going to be coming to Baltimore. Every man whose picture is sent in will have a chance to be looked at by Joe Hunter. Then five finalists will appear on People Are Talking on February 4th. One of you will be going to New York to be interviewed personally by the Ford Modeling Agency. There's the address. We want your picture and your vital statistics. We want to know what suit size, how tall you are, how much you weigh. Ah. We want to know what suit size, how tall you are, how much you weigh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3432.64,3455.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e And the five finals will appear live on People Are Talking in which the one model will be chosen. And also, Joe Hunter is bringing two very successful male models with him. 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Bye bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3483.59,3487.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Bye bye. All right, this is our final Dialing for Dollars call of the day. Here on People Are Talking, we're at one bottom, $672. High voltage was fabulous. I know you feel good, and we're going to have her back. And we answered all those questions about our noses. And believe me, I've had some problems in my day. The last four digits on this call, 1197. So has our stage manager, Skippy Ball. He's had lots of nose problems in his day, and he better keep his out of my business. 1197. One bottom, $672 in our dialing for dollars jackpot. And we want you to know that the David Copperfield show for this Friday has been sold out. But if you have, if you wanted to see him, please be part of our studio audience, our audience out there, and watch the show Monday at nine, Friday at nine. I'm confused. He's gonna be doing three concerts in Baltimore, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. No answer. Seven, two, one, 11, 97. And we'll add 13 to the jackpot. The next call worth 600. $85 again this weekend beginning at 1130 on Saturday night in Beverly. We hope that you'll certainly make an appearance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3487.67,3661.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, you're not a terrible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3662.93,3663.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e United Cerebral Palsy telethon weekend with the stars telethon Rhea Fiken and I will be here we hope to raise $600 ,000 or more this year to help","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332#t=3663.07,3669.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144627/file/267332/transcript/77346/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 16:\u003c/strong\u003e and Baltimore can do it. 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