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Tonight, we ask those of you at home and those of you on the square off panel, who's to blame for what's happening on our beaches? Tom Moore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=84.88,98.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We're all to blame, Richard, all of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=99.52,100.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Suzanne Wagner I think the unwillingness of legislators to deal with the problem until we have a crisis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=101.41,105.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Legislator Carl Snow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=106.57,107.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, obviously, the federal government has to take the responsibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=108.01,110.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And Bob, share.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=111.28,111.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Politicians at all levels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=112.21,113.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about medical wastes and other subjects in the news this Saturday night as we square off. Good evening, everyone. Welcome to Square off. I'm Richard Sher Tom moore. During the little opening there says this is a dull subject. Now, why would you say this is a dull subject when syringes, urine cups and so forth are washing up on beaches from Maine to Florida?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=114.67,142.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you said prior to that you said the opening didn't have very much sight. Well, it's true. And this will tend to be a dull subject until it affects people directly. I didn't finish what we were saying because we came back on camera. It's a horrible problem and we're all to blame. We can't just say, well, it's the federal Carl indicated the federal government, yes, they have a role. But I think this whole issue, the great ocean is sick, it's nauseous and it's vomiting back, the waste that man puts into it. And it transcends political. The political arena. You can't finger point to conservatives or liberals, Republicans or Democrats or governments. We're all guilty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=143.39,179.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But the reason I suggest the federal government, because we have agencies, we have responsibility now not making this a political issue, so to speak. There's no question that the Environmental Protection Agency, which has the ultimate responsibility, I mean, that's what millions of dollars are given to that federal agency to do, is protect our environment, has done a horrible job. And if you look at the last seven years, it's been pretty terrible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=180.27,203.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e For not wanting for not typically for not wanting to make it a political issue. And within 30 seconds, you've made it a monstrous political issue. Hold on. And you have you always talk about what the federal government should do. The EPA has a good record of enforcement in places with the exception you want to make it look political. The filthiest harbor in the world is the Boston Harbor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=203.87,223.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e That's Michael Jackson as the governor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=223.58,224.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And I think people in New Jersey, where Tom Kean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=225.11,226.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e He's a Republican. Yeah, but what about an individual right away? But wait a minute, Karl. You don't for you go for go, guys. KARL Well, I have the floor. You go for government, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=227.39,236.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Karl Holiday You go for government.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=236.84,238.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's blame the federal government. What about the pig who throws something away or out their window or on the shore?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=238.61,243.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Throwing something away is doing it because it's the cheapest and easiest way for them to get rid of it. He wants to make bigger profits, therefore he doesn't dispose of it the way he should. We used to call that the paradox of the aggregate. If it's good for the individual, it generally is harmful to society and if it's good for society, generally costs the individual. And the reason our legislators haven't dealt with it is who would envision that people would take filthy syringes and and specimen jars and throw them away haphazardly? They'd say, I'll tell you who does. The people who do that or people that are hospitals for profit hospitals, people trying to make a living.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=244.46,280.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Today you're going to hear you're going to hear a Republican here blast the Reagan administration record on environment. It's horrible because it's reactionary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=280.97,289.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't react to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=290.51,291.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Now. Let me I'm not finished. It goes I'm going to now blame the Democratic Congress for the bills this week that the Senate passed, which to me is unbelievable. The bill that the Senate passed this week was that enforcement will take place in 1991. That means it is legal for the next three years to keep dumping the syringes and the waste product.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=291.74,309.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e But what about in New York City? What do you New York City on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=310.22,313.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Legal or illegal? What what are they all reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=313.79,315.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They're already currently laws on the books that governance this will strengthen it and the moneys that the Senate have given. And by the way, a Republican president will sign this bill into law that will come into full effect by 1991. My concern is and the reason I say the federal government, because this is a problem, Tom, that an individual alone cannot solve our government in this state. For example, he has a great campaign where he's asking people to contribute a dollar to help clean up the Chesapeake Bay. Well, the fact of the matter is it's going to take not just $1 coming from individual taxpayers in this country or in this state, but it's going to take the federal government with its oversight responsibility, exercising that oversight responsibility and helping to keep the bay clean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=316.34,357.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It's going to take it's going to take two things, not only passing the right laws, but it's going to take the enforcement of the violation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=358.01,364.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Against.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=365.87,365.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Big corporations himself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=366.29,367.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And it's going to take one other thing that's very important, too. When we find out who's dumping this, whether it just be a jobber who has gotten the waste from a hospital or the hospital or a medical lab, just don't send the guy who throws it to jail, send the owner of the corporation to jail. Hard time, long sentence, and believe me, send them to the penitentiary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=367.76,389.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e No country clubs you do. I agree with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=390.59,392.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Because they will. They will if they find them. But what about the bigger issue? Where is our public morality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=392.72,397.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e That's individual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=398.57,398.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's individual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=399.62,399.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Why do you need a law to tell people not to throw away what I'm considered biological hazardous waste? Why do you need a law? Why should people know better on their own?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=400.49,410.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Because it's big corporations and they find a very cheap way of getting rid of their waste, and that's dumping it for free in the ocean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=411.41,416.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Precisely. That's what polluted our rivers and polluted our bays of pollutes our air. And now it's going to now it will kill us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=417.11,423.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And when you say that, that if they find this person, they'll prosecute them. No, they may prosecute, but nothing's going to happen to them. The enforcement of environmental laws has been horrible in this case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=423.8,433.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Everywhere, just everywhere, every level, both parties. If the Democrats have great power, it wouldn't be any better. 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Karl, who is driving out to the ocean, out of the ocean with tons of this garbage and just throwing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=444.87,453.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, wait a minute. 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No, tell me in the last seven years with Mr. Reagan, who's been in the White House, and Mr. Bush, who wants to continue for four years. How can you be proud as a conservative of their record?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=580.29,591.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not proud of anyone's record on the environment. 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How you always discuss garbage and politics and garbage in politics? 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When we come back, we're going to ask the question about the mental health of politicians. We'll do that in just half. Oh, quiet. All right. Let's talk a little bit about what happened with the allegation that Michael Dukakis had gotten some help from a psychiatrist or psychologist one time during a couple of crises in his life. Both were denied. His doctor said it didn't happen. We assume it did not happen. The question is how important, how far do we have to go in terms of knowing about a politician? 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No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=777.68,779.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If it deals with character, it's relevant. I don't think what I'm trying to say is I don't think this really deals with character. The allegation made about Dukakis was I think that his brother died or something and he had gotten some help. So what? I mean, people need help when they're going through loss, when they're going through death, when they're going through divorce, when they're going through anything like that. 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It's as relevant as President Reagan's health and his problems. I mean, it's relevant in the aspect that we want to know what's happening with the person that we're putting in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=810.56,821.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's the point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=821.93,823.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e My point is somebody else got a little shot at this guy. Think one of the problems is that those who put it out, I believe, knew it not to be factual to begin with, to suggest that there was a mental problem with him. It was obviously a campaign ploy designed to turn people off when Michael Dukakis was leading in the polls. But let us suggest for a moment, even if it was true, Richard took the opposite point of view that it was not true. Let's assume that it was true. So what? Well, the fact of the matter is Abraham Lincoln, probably one of the greatest presidents of nation ever, had all kinds of mental.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=825.23,856.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Karl, I'll go further.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=857.03,858.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If it was true, I commend the man if he's going through a loss to get some help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=858.77,862.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=863.27,863.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Of all, I don't have a problem with him if he didn't get it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=863.81,866.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're exactly right. His brother died stallion in 1973 and 1978. He suffered a stunning loss. Now, I don't think the man has ever formally sought any psychological or psychiatric help. But what's wrong? If he did? The president had such help after he was shot, of course. And it puts a stigma on the fact that people mental illness, a lot of us have learned to deal with it as just something like a virus or some other sickness can be cured. But let me say this. The that we still don't know where it came from, but I take it with a great grain of salt. Anything said by anyone who follows Lyndon LaRouche and the Washington Times, a paper that I normally admire really pulled a cheap shot. I don't like Dukakis at all. I think he's a total fraud and a Harvard liberal. But they were really guilty of shabby journalism and the way they covered this, The first paper that reported it was the Boston Globe, which is a Dukakis paper. And I don't think the governor the governor made a big mistake when he was asked about it initially. He shrugged his shoulders and walked away. He probably felt that it didn't even and I wouldn't blame him for saying, I'm not even going to dignify one with an answer. But that's what hurt. 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It's an appropriate response to refer to the gentleman as an invalid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=934.25,938.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He was trying to be funny. He apologized for a very poor choice of words. He's your president, too, by the way. Or is he not your president?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=938.69,943.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe for a while.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=944.81,945.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Or for what he said?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=945.86,946.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, consulting, consulting a counselor or a psychiatrist is today preventive medicine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=947.36,953.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But is that better than consulting astrologers? I mean, that's right. You're right about astrologists. But, you know, the whole spin on this and I think it was a political spin and I happen to agree with you. Washington Times is not one of my favorite newspapers. I think it's an awful people. And when they publish that particular account, I think they were trying to do what happened to Tom Eagleton. Tom Eagleton was the vice presidential candidate. It was United States Senate. 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I think the American people are more politically mature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=985.31,989.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the issue is relevant. I think all issues dealing with all political candidates are relevant. 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These candidates as opposed to their this other night?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1038.89,1042.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the medical records should be should be provided by all of them when they're in public service. 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He did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1050.41,1051.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Not. You know, one of the Bush.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1051.25,1052.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Policies that people have been focusing on their mental health and on their health conditions, because there's nothing to talk about with their positions with regard to foreign.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1053.5,1062.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Here's an issue. And in Frederick County, Maryland, a farmer there, Mr. Paul Butch Sanders, was tonight free on $10,000 bond. His neighbors and community residents say, and other farmers have rallied around him in support of his actions. The farmer is charged with shooting at a jeep where three teenagers were allegedly joyriding in his potato patch that he says he's worked so hard, particularly during this drought, to grow potatoes. And one of the bullets struck the 17 year old who is recovering from his wounds. They say he's the Bernard gets the farmers. What do you think about this? 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And he has a right to defend himself when a truck is roaring at him and his property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1114.46,1120.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, that's typical limousine liberal for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1121.0,1123.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Under the laws that you people have put in to say that a farmer doesn't have a right to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1123.55,1127.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Take a shine to somebody charging on his property.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1127.81,1130.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Dates me by so many years. I'm insulted that you think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1131.4,1134.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I am in favor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1134.29,1135.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Of the farmer. The guy is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1135.7,1137.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Coming right at him with a car and he put the shotgun on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1137.14,1139.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e His potatoes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1141.58,1141.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Protecting himself. What he was protecting is and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1142.78,1146.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I sympathize with this farmer. I honestly, truly do. And I agree with Tom that who knows what would have after the potatoes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1146.74,1152.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what about runs and what if they ran the thing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1153.46,1155.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Excuse me? He was not in his home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1155.37,1157.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But I don't care. I suppose little thing like these thugs, as you call it, this farmer who we clearly know life was not endangered. We are, you know, based on the newspaper. What do you what would you want now? You want basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1157.66,1170.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Either were you they were just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1170.74,1171.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e So they make it. So this guy shoots off a few rounds. Let's assume for a moment that he missed those particular teenagers and hit some innocent bystander. You know, bullets travel great distances and it hit somebody and killed them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1173.07,1186.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Or what did he kill? One of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1186.55,1187.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is saying, oh, kill one of the teenagers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1187.67,1189.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Would still be too bad for the teenagers. What about if there was sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1190.42,1194.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But if they were sorry barium. Let me let me tell you, first of all, they're on his property. He's got his shotgun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1194.95,1200.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not for the Senate, I supposed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1200.65,1201.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I don't. But supposedly he was in his house and he was shooting at somebody and a bullet flew out the window and killed it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1202.39,1207.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think the difference is that's different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1207.85,1209.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. How do you know he doesn't protect this house?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1210.43,1212.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Quiet. You said that three times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1213.49,1214.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So it's not it is unlawful to protect an object or a thing that is outside of your home, Not What.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1215.41,1223.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you supposed to do? Wait until they get into the living room. I mean, you know, you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1223.96,1227.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Have to be reasonable. You have to be reasonable about it. I went out, went out and stalked and waited for these boys. He heard the car coming up and he went. Wait, wait, wait.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1228.13,1237.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e From what I understand, were repeatedly right, taunting him and coming towards him and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1238.24,1243.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Riding over them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1244.0,1245.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1245.8,1245.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Supposed to wait until we embark.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1246.1,1247.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e On another way? I live in the middle of downtown Baltimore. I pay deer taxes to stay in my house every night in the middle of the summer. People going to and from the harbor come and they make noise and they drink and they carry you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1248.83,1260.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You got a better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1260.63,1261.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Time for me to take a gun and shoot them for harassing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1261.34,1264.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e If.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1265.12,1265.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e They come into your if they come onto your property and they're menacing you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1265.39,1268.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e If they breaking off my home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1268.9,1270.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e In Frederick County, how long do you think it would have taken if this me want to call the police, how long you think it would take for the police to come?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1270.91,1276.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Just let hour now ask you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1276.61,1278.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Just one question. 2 minutes. At what point do you decide that your safety is not involved? And you know as well as I do, counselor, that if this had been Wyoming or Montana, these kids would have been in jail. The guy wouldn't have even been charged. But we're in the east right now with the liberals want to go after and listen. I tell you what, if this guy is guilty, then so is Carl Rowen. No difference between you two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1278.74,1302.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I happen to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1304.0,1304.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Agree with you that court may not have used good judgment and shooting, and that's why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1304.99,1309.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e But you weren't there. Well, that's why you weren't being charged. But that's what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1309.84,1312.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Is going on trial. You would need a little trial. You're suggesting just based on a newspaper account, you wouldn't even know to listen now to what you would have. And this is this whole Western cowboy mentality that you want to impart. You know, you believe just shoot them up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1313.63,1329.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1329.89,1332.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. You said earlier if they shot someone this young man had got.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1332.98,1336.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Why he's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1336.88,1337.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Defending him. Yeah, I think you'll call to be very. Par for the course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1337.24,1341.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e At a time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1341.81,1341.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e When the Reno drama is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1342.59,1343.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Very easy to do this summer. It's very easy for you to sit there when you when there aren't four or five teenagers running through your trying to taunt you and run and put your life in danger, maybe. And the law is what would a reasonable person do under similar circumstances? That's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1343.91,1358.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't know about them. So what I guarantee, I guess when those guys go, Oh, if this are not no problem, I is a reasonable person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1359.18,1368.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You sitting there is not the definition of a reasonable person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1369.65,1372.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You're not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1372.77,1373.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That out of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1374.42,1375.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Bounds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1376.07,1376.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I feel sorry for all of us because we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698#t=1377.03,1378.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118987/file/223698/transcript/62936/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Time to dip into our squared off mailbag. Here's a letter from Edward Linde of Annapolis, who writes us regarding our debate about South Africa a few weeks ago. The United States should not interfere with the governments of other nations, large or small. Would we meddle with Great Britain, France, etc.? Of course not. The USA is far from being a perfect example. Jenny Craig of Baltimore composed this amusing poem about our discussion on the Governor's mansion. I read it. The governor's new mansion to him looks a shab. But the state shouldn't have to pick up the tab. If the governor wants to give his mansion a thrill, let him and his snoops pick up the bill. And Harry McClelland of Jessup, Maryland, expresses his thoughts about square off and writes, Yours is one of the more intellectual shows that also entertains. A combination hard to match. Keep up with the timely topics and interesting panelists. We'd also like to thank William Kellog of Baltimore, Anne Marie Miller of Dundalk, Karl Hartmann of Baltimore, Mary Maddox of Glen Burnie, William Holden, Remodeler Hennessy and all the others for writing us. I know you have things to say about tonight's discussion in tonight's panel, so write to us at this address. Square off WG, TD Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. And the zip is two 1 to 1 one. We'll be back next week with Madeline Murphy, Phyllis Brotman, the Reverend Saint George Cross and Alan Christian. We will talk about the controversial film The Last Temptation of Christ. We'll talk about the kids in the city schools saying no to drug money and the end of the Playboy Clubs next Saturday night at 730. Once again, we are off. 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