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First of all, we attack the issue of John Tower designated to be our secretary of defense. A lot of controversy surrounding him, a variety of allegations concerning his personal life as well as his professional life. And tonight, we begin on square off by asking those of you at home and those of you here on the square off panel, do you feel that John Tower is qualified to be secretary of defense? John Lofton.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=68.43,91.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, because I think moral character is more important than any technical expertise a man might have in a job. I would vote no on John Tower.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=92.67,100.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeline Murphy I would vote no also because public interest is more important than private gain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=100.47,105.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Karl Snowden I think I'm concurring with John Locke, and for the first time, I must admit I don't think he's qualified.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=106.53,112.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And Bob SCHIEFFER.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=112.68,113.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Is certainly qualified. He's the top expert.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=113.34,114.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e John Tower. Other subjects in the news tonight welcoming you to square off. I guess the issue is this. Good evening. Welcome to square off. Here is what one member of the Senate Armed Services Committee has to say. And this is a quote, At what point does private conduct raise questions of judgment and character that impact on fitness for public office? And this is the issue you were addressing in the green room. So address it on the air.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=115.59,146.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think that's a fair question. I think whatever that point is, and I think that point is arguable. John Tower, from what I know about him and from what I read in the press, has gone beyond that line. I think, as I say, that a man's personal character is more important than any technical qualifications that he may have for a job. And indeed, the founding fathers of this country felt that personal virtue and character and morality were absolutely central to the functioning of our form of governance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=147.22,175.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, it's a tough question. I can't disagree with what you're saying, but if John Tower were to walk into the Defense Department, there isn't a more qualified person that would know his way around the Defense Department than John Tower. He's certainly qualified to be on defense as far as his expertise. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=175.93,190.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But knowing his way around for whom now, he got $50,000 for a firm Unisys corporation, which is under investigation for its corruption as far as the Defense Department contracts are concerned. He has made sir, he hasn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=191.23,207.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Done anything illegal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=207.46,207.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e He may well, they gave him $50,000, which is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=208.39,211.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What they.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=212.11,212.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Give when you talk about what Bush said the other night when he was talking about he didn't even want a hint of any.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=212.38,218.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Comment. And that's the point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=219.04,219.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=220.39,220.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=221.56,221.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Position in the government.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=221.92,222.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that's the point. That's really I'm not like, John, on the morality question, so to speak. What his private relationships may have been with women don't disturbed me as much as the fact that he has a close illicit, if you will, buy relationship with the defense industry wireless wireless it because again, she's right President Bush has talked to, but he doesn't want even an appearance of any unethical conduct. Well, there isn't. It hasn't been all. But there have been. Then you have been following this very closely. I've been following it. The fact of the matter is, what disturbs Senator Nunn, for example, who himself have said that he may not vote for this particular nomination. In fact, I think it's going to lose. I think this is going to be the first mistake that Bush has made. This will be the point. Well, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=223.13,267.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me let me say this. Any. Every public official unfortunately, appears to have and it's been every nomination to the Supreme Court. Every presidential candidate has something in their past that would would probably have a problem under the Bush is ethical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=268.06,284.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Ross Baker made it with no problem. The entire Senate confirmed him without any problem. He's the secretary of state. There are people who have been nominated by Bush who are not having the kind of let me say this, that John Tower.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=285.37,297.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You are going to use the the standards that you want to use for Tower. You would not have had Eisenhower. You would not have had Kennedy, certainly Kennedy or his brother or anybody or anybody in his family, but certainly not have Lyndon Johnson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=297.52,309.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Other than that, I think when you begin to talk about a conduct unbecoming a gentleman or a man, well, we're not voting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=310.57,317.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e On a gentleman. We're voting on a secretary of defense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=317.35,319.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But when you when you begin to do that and then you move it over into his his is drinking, then you move it over. I mean, you take these in a lump, you move it over all iron pans, as he was known in Congress, because he couldn't get along with anybody. And then you move it over to his $750,000 revolving door contract. 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I when we need a Defense Department that has some kind of character to it. Now, we don't need character. We need it that has some kind of a level head at the top that isn't going to be rash in, you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=350.5,366.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Know, as a US senator, as a US senator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=366.43,368.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Qualified.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=368.96,368.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute. As a US senator, he was entitled to do some of the things that he did. 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You mean it was appalling that part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=378.58,380.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Of his private life. I'm talking about what I'm addressing. The issue that you brought up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=380.59,383.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e About the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=384.16,384.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Fact she's talking about the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=384.43,385.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Fact, in fact, that he drinks a lot in the public, that he was accused of doing some. I'm not talking about his private life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=385.48,391.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We're talking about a nominating or appointing someone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=391.57,393.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The issue that I want to I want to go to John here. Does the private life have relevance here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=394.0,398.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Look, you can't as glibly as Bob attempts to separate a man's private life from his public life. And when you say that if we can't have Tower, then we couldn't had all the Kennedys. That's another argument for not having Tower. As far as I'm concerned. I would have been just as happy if would have had none of the Kennedys. And let me say this to you, Carl. It saddens me to see you so indifferent to the adultery issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=399.37,422.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=423.88,424.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If you if you think it doesn't say anything about a man's character. If he violates his sacred wedding vows, you're sadly mistaken, because I'm telling you that a man to violate his sacred wedding vow will not keep a public trust. A man who cannot manage himself. Carl cannot manage a Pentagon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=424.5,439.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me finish this. Did you hear what I said? I heard them. If you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=440.35,442.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Manage yourself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=442.51,442.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You can manage this. The recent examples of history. Eisenhower, who was a Republican, was involved in some illicit relationships. Extramarital relationship. Kennedy, who's by name, is still considered the most popular president, was involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=443.47,455.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Or Reagan was. No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=456.34,457.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e John Kennedy is still considered one of the most popular presidents of the 20th. So you think it's Thomas Jefferson and Jefferson? The Founding Fathers Foundation was involved in relationship. I had children outside of his marriage. Are you married? Good man. April. Are you a married man? A whole host. Are you a married man? Yes, I'm a formally married man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=457.33,474.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A formerly married man. The way you say it, it seems like adultery ought to almost be a quantum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=474.73,479.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no, no, no, no. You know, what I'm certainly saying to you is I think history negates your point that men and women who have had extramarital affairs cannot be great friends. One other questions that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=479.74,491.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Should not be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=491.98,492.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Produced a hope produced the whole number of great men who happen to have a woman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=492.61,496.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It shouldn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=498.37,499.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Be relevant, not not to the nomination of a of a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=499.3,502.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Period of time. Please, you don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=503.47,504.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't think it says anything about the character of a man if he.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=505.27,508.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Violates, What does it say about Thomas Jefferson?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=508.18,509.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e His wedding vows is between him and his wife. Oh, God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=509.92,512.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What does it say about Thomas?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=512.919,513.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The wedding vow is a ceremony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=513.97,515.049"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, now, that's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=515.53,516.429"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Not a violation. I'll tell you something. That is not a violation of the public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=516.669,520.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me tell you. Let me tell you something that you ought to be asked to write a thousand times on the board. Was that a man who will cheat on his wife will cheat on the American electorate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=520.33,529.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that true? Robert Thomas Jeff, what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=529.78,531.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Statistics do you have that show that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=531.16,532.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Give.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=532.97,532.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't think it'll follow?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=533.55,534.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e See, I think some frauds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=534.88,535.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not phony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=536.56,536.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't think a man's family life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=537.43,538.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We throw it out of order Now all of your talking saying I've just been on the go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=539.01,543.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's a moot question in the sense that unless you put this standard up for everybody in the United States, 80% that claim of men are adulterers and fornicate. 80%. So who are you guys? So what are you going to do? Wait a minute. But who are you going to get to go into the camp?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=543.85,562.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, let's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=562.9,563.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell these 20%.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=563.56,564.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, yeah, but I'll tell you some.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=564.88,565.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm going to give you a prediction. You may.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=565.87,566.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Not be qualified a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=566.98,568.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e One man. I'm going to give you a prediction. Every major. I mean, if you look back in history over the presidents we've had and people that have held office, you will find that they end up being a whole lot different than you ever thought they would be. And I think John Tower will be nominated. I think he will be an excellent secretary that you take a look at Ronald Reagan. Okay. He came in as a hawk. Everybody thought he was going to push the button. He was so much of a dove that he had to invade Grenada just to let people know that you still knew what he was doing. Okay. John Kennedy went in as a liberal and was probably the biggest hawk we had as part of the Vietnam War.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=568.16,597.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's not true. But let me let me make my point, John.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=597.85,600.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=600.55,600.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What that is. I mean, we don't have as many math finish. You should finish the Republican filibuster. I really want to ask John a question I've been trying to ask you all this time. Yes, sir. I want to go back to those president. Yes, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, some of the founding fathers of this nation. Are you really saying if you had it to do and you knew it, but they're morality, you don't think they should ever been president? I think they were not great, great men.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=601.63,623.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the fallacious ness of your question is in the implication that to the extent that they were great, they were great because they were adulterous. I think that's the question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=623.8,633.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The question to you is you understand your you said those men should not have been president. I'm so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=633.77,638.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't say that. Well, I'm just saying that your implication that they were great because they were adulterers is nutty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=639.04,643.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no, no. I'm saying they were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=643.57,644.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Despite the question is how much better they would have been had they not been adulterous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=644.92,648.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We will be back in just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=649.28,650.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Lift your goal a little higher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=650.59,651.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e A little higher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=652.15,652.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you've got to be blunt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=765.14,768.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No need to tell you that you are a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=769.76,771.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Great grandson of Thomas Jefferson. He is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=771.65,773.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Not quite. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's move on. That's what I call.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=774.26,778.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A black mark on Jefferson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=778.94,779.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, let's talk about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=780.32,781.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, ma'am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=781.28,782.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e As you know, Governor Lieutenant Governor Steinberg has been asked by the mayor, by Governor Schaefer, rather than mayor, to have a committee appointed to look into the possibility of the feasibility of off track betting in Maryland. Off track betting has been legalized in Pennsylvania. There's a fear that it could jeopardize Maryland's racing industry, which is the third largest industry in our state. If there were betting parlors and there are going to be seven betting parlors along the along the borders of Pennsylvania and Virginia, what do you think about this? 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And we have found it would seem by now that people are putting an inordinate amount of money on chance and are not make are not able to afford it. The state is then becoming the person that has to to take care of the people who are unwisely gambling, I think. I think it's awful. I don't usually use the money for the people who need it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=812.54,845.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What about the racing business, which, you know, is a very big industry in the state?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=845.67,848.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's going ahead living. Well, still, they're earning their living after. Are their living on it. I'm I'm for having affirmative action at Laurel. 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I've seen a lot of black horse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=867.77,869.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=869.35,869.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e My gosh. I think they ought to. 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Would you expect anything?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=875.0,878.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I think they ought to legalize off track betting. I think they ought to legalize on track betting. I think they ought to legalize prostitution. And they ought to legalize and I agree with Curt Smokes program as far as legalizing drugs. Now, let's talk about off track. That is prostitution. Okay? You can't legislate morals. And they're going to be people betting whether it's legal or illegal. So why shouldn't the state make some? You can balance the budget. You could balance the budget in the state of Maryland. You could balance the budget in the government and nine states.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=879.11,906.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You're saying that anything that makes money for the state is all right. Okay. 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So why shouldn't the government make some money?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=917.04,925.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Because, Bob, that there comes a time there ought to be some standards set. I mean, I mean, it seems to me if you want to open a door to legalize prostitution. Well, because I think well, because I think in some instances there are some morality that need to be said. 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But at some point they Howard, there have to be some standards.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=943.16,948.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The standards have to be set. The standards can't be set by the government.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=949.22,951.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And one concern I have on the legalizing of drugs, which I don't favor, is when you think of who would be, who would be the persons, the numerous numbers of people who would be subsidized by the government would frighten me to think that we might have 30 million people, that the government is subsidy moral.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=952.73,967.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me say this in response, morals can't be legislated, all right? Every individual has to come up with their own set of behavior.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=968.12,973.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It can be regulated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=974.25,974.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, but it's a moral issue. And a moral issue rests with the individual. And if if a person has no moral problem with spending their money in betting, the government should not take that opportunity away, in fact, the government should make some money on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=975.77,989.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e John?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=990.68,990.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, my head is swimming here. Karl's puritanism is very unstable. It comes and goes. But to the extent that you are here on the issue, I applaud you, Bob. You keep saying over and over, you can't legislate morality. Bob. Morality is all you can legislate. Implicit in every law ever passed is that something is deemed to be right, something is deemed to be wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=991.43,1012.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Why is getting to the bottom? I'll spend my money. If I want to spend my money betting on horses or the Orioles. What is inherently wrong about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1013.12,1020.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think one of the things that's wrong about gambling is I don't think the state ought to lead people on to temptation. 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I know that's not true. And I have a right to take the money and any legal any legal way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1032.47,1039.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Mean we're.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1041.17,1041.329"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1041.44,1042.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Any income that I earn, I have a right to go out and bet it on the Orioles or on horse watch and you tell me I can't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1043.839,1050.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what's what's the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1051.37,1052.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Only one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1052.42,1052.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's legal?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1053.62,1053.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, one thing that I think is wrong is I don't think the state ought to lead people into temptation to do things that I think are wrong. Secondly, I think there's one wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1055.0,1063.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You didn't answer why it's wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1064.01,1064.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Why don't you guys covetousness, Bob? Gambling at its root is covetousness. 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The second thing I don't like about it is it is another gutless way of the state trying to get its grubby hands on our hard earned tax dollars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1083.51,1094.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Without a vote, you haven't given one reason why. It's. 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You don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1101.31,1102.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell me why it's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1103.43,1103.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Evolved. We wanted to get into discussing this subject. This is from California, where the University of California, Berkeley. That campus there there are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1104.03,1111.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Speaking of sin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1111.32,1111.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Homosexual couples at the University of California at Berkeley who are demanding the right to live in housing reserved for married students. The university argues it's not authorized to recognize unmarried couples when there's a waiting list for legitimate married couples, however, gay and lesbian students and compromise, who comprise rather 10% of the campus, argue that the university's policy discriminates against homosexuals. Should married homosexual couples be allowed to live in dormitories designated for married, whatever?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1112.16,1140.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't I don't know what the state of California recognizes, quote, marriage. But let me let me just go to the heart of it. Should consenting adults have the right to live together who happen to be the issue? Let me finish. That's not the that's the way I perceive it. Should consenting adults who happen to be lesbians or homosexuals or gay have the right to live together and in a dormitory? I say yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1142.52,1163.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. I say yes to. However, not on this issue, because this is not a homosexual issue. This is not. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be. The only reason it is one is because there is a shortage of housing on campus at University of California, Berkeley. And these people figure the way that they're going to get into that dorm is to argue discrimination. It is not a homosexual issue. The issue is there is a dorm that is set aside for married husbands and wives, legal married people versus single people. And if that discrimination is okay, Bob shouldn't be a homosexual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1163.97,1196.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It is an it is a homosexual issue, because what you're talking about is scarcity of housing on the one hand, and large numbers of married people with children, incidentally, who need housing. And on the other, you have a new group of people coming in and saying, this is my share of what you're doing. They can find housing outside of the campus, on the periphery of the campus. But I don't think it's a healthy situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1197.22,1222.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I agree with you. It is not a healthy situation, but it's not a homosexual issue. It should be that it's a single people that are trying to get into the dorm because there's a shortage of housing. 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Breathtaking. You were bad on Tower. You were good on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1236.66,1243.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Good on town.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1243.41,1243.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You were bad on Tower.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1244.01,1244.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I was bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1245.0,1245.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You were good on gambling. There should be standards, you say. Now, what happened to the standards? Oh, it's okay. Let me finish. Suddenly, it's okay for a homosexual, your wife.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1245.61,1252.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To get time. We're.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1252.23,1252.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We're not wasting time. I'm making a valuable point. Look, I don't believe people ought to be homosexuals. If they are, they shouldn't be married. And I don't believe there ought to be a Berkeley. So you can imagine where I stand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1253.16,1262.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1263.33,1263.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Look, I think by that I mean one of your former colleagues and good friends never get the same point. Well, he had the same point you did, but by Bellman came to see that in homosexuality that people have to have certain rights. Now he's a champion. The former congressman from the first District of Maryland is a champion of homosexual rights. And your Bob Bauman would be saying to you as his former friend and colleague, is that we as homosexuals, meaning he and his colleagues who are homosexuals, need housing. So why not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1263.9,1290.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they may need single people need housing there, too. And that's the issue. It is not a homosexual issue. 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And that's and that's the issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1304.52,1308.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Is nobody in their eyes they are married. And therefore, do they qualify as if they consider themselves married to live in a dorm?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1308.89,1314.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Gee, Bob, sounds like all of a sudden, Bob, you're saying the law might should legislate some morality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1314.81,1319.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1319.94,1319.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I'm sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1320.42,1320.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not talking about whether homosexuality is good or bad.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1320.99,1323.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You think homosexuals ought to be allowed to marry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1323.62,1325.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1326.12,1326.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They ought to be able, by the law, can't morality. Bob, we're not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1326.96,1330.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The issue here. The issue. The issue is this dorm space, whether whether married people, husband or wife with children and a family have a right to that. The answer is yes. But why in the bar do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1330.32,1340.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You think homosexuals should not be allowed? That's not the question. It's my question, Bob. Why should I mean, this question is I understand why you don't answer that question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1340.79,1347.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. We'll be back to Jeff into our square off the mailbag. Thousands and thousands of 003 letters. We'll be back. All right, hold on a minute. Here's the letter last week about Boyce Moseley. And we were discussing education of black men in our country. The letter from Paul Slepian of. And also in the savings and loan business. And that's about all the time we have to read letters to have a few.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1348.12,1497.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You said three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116#t=1497.29,1497.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119386/file/224116/transcript/62917/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You said, throw this one from Bob in Cambridge. We'll have to hold out on the pay rise. 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