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Hi, I'm Jackie Hall. And I'm Harold Anthony. Well, 1988 is behind us, but what a year it was. Here in Maryland, we have a new governor, at least for the second year. And in Baltimore, a new mayor. We've gone through a presidential election that has left a lot of people wondering about how we elect our leaders. Now, at the dawn of 1989, many questions can be raised about the future. Today on City Line, we'll talk about the past year and look into the future with our guests. Baltimore City Council Vice Chairwoman Jackie McClain, Congressman Ben Cardin, and Ambassador Alan Keyes from 1988 into 1989. Next on City Line. Okay. Once again, welcome to City Land and welcome to a brand new Year 1988, to say the least, has been an exciting year in politics, not only in Baltimore but around the nation. We have with us three movers and shakers in the political arena today and at the beginning of the program before we went on the air. Congressman Cardin, you said something about you didn't want to be put on the spot by bringing up any of your old predictions, but I'm going to put you on the spot anyway by asking all three of you to make some predictions about what the political scene will be in 1989. If we start with with you. Well, it's going to be lively in Washington. I think the big story will be how well President Bush reacts with the 101st Congress. There's a talk as to whether there will be a honeymoon or not. The vice the now president, soon to be president, made a lot of comments during his campaign. It's going to be interesting to see whether he follows through with some of those comments, like no taxes and how we're going to deal with the budget deficit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=72.71,198.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What are we going to do about our environment? What are we going to do about health care for the elderly? These are important issues that Congress will want to deal with, but it'll be interesting to see the interaction between Congress and the president. Now, we're going to ask you, what do you think? Will he have to raise taxes in order to balance the budget and do some other things that need to be done? There's no question if he's going to make a sincere effort to deal with the budget deficit, that he has to look at new revenues. Now, whether he will look at new revenues or not, I don't know. It's possible that he will not. And if we don't get the leadership from the president, there will be no effort made to raise taxes. It will require the president to be in favor of it. Otherwise, it won't happen. Since we're doing an overview. Ambassador Keyes, let's let's talk about President elect Bush and affirmative action and the role of blacks in his administration. Well, I think that the vice president has already shown a very strong interest in the interim period here and getting together with people and putting, I think, his actions behind the inclusiveness concept that was talked about during the campaign. I think his choices to the cabinet that have been indicated indicate that as well. And I think that the year is going to see a lot more of that kind of reaching out on his part. Okay. Let's talk about the, uh, the local scene with you. Vice Chairwoman McLane, is there any way I can shorten that time? But let's talk about just Jackie's. Yeah. Okay, That's a lot easier. How about what's happening locally? What do you see as some of the major political thrusts that we'll be concentrating on? Well, to be quite honest with you, I think a lot of things have actually started to take place, especially last year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=199.77,300.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's just going to be, I feel, just a continuation of those things that have happened over the past year. We have a relatively new mayor who still has to get accustomed to a relatively new council, and it's going to be some give and take on both parts. And last year certainly showed that there was a lot of a lot of giving and there was certainly a lot of taking. And I think it's going to be interesting. Congressman Cardin talked about the things that were happening on the federal level, to be quite honest with you, with a new president coming in who has to get along with the Congress. You don't have too much of a difference because you had a new council in 1988 and you had a new mayor and those two groups of people were still going to have to get along just as we do as they do on the federal level. Have you been able to work things out and get at the issues that are prominent? You know, Jackie's like it's like being in a family. It's like having a mother and a father. So, you know, there's something. Oh, sure. 18, 18 children. You constantly have different opinions, and I think that's very, very healthy. But the the the bottom line is whether or not those differences of opinion actually get the job done. And personally, I think in 1988, there were some differences of opinion, not so much as having gotten the job done correctly or on a smooth basis. But I certainly think that 1989 this year, you'll see a lot more things happening positively in the city and and hopefully we'll keep our fingers crossed. Some folks starting to get along a little bit more, I would think, for the next few months, though, that your attention will be towards Annapolis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=301.11,393.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, what's the General Assembly starting? It's a critical session for Baltimore City, and I would think that the council and the mayor are going to be united. And what fact? Respect is critical for Baltimore City. There's education issues that are going to be addressed. It's going to be a critical battle between the governor and the General Assembly on spending. The city of Baltimore gets a lot of their funds, a great amount of their funds from the state. And it's incumbent upon the city council and especially the mayor, to make sure that we let our legislators know, especially those folks that that that represent the city of Baltimore and the governor, exactly what we want, where our needs are, because we really need funds desperately. Ambassador Keyes, even though you were defeated during the last. Paul Sarbanes, I cannot see you as a spectator. How do you plan on getting involved politically in the next in the next year? Well, I think I will be involved. I'm going to be working to develop and support the grassroots organization of the Republican Party, looking around for good candidates to support in local and state elections, because I think that it's quite clear the Republican Party across the nation has shown a certain amount of strength over the last 25 years or so in winning the presidency. But we have not shown the same kind of strength at the grassroots in Maryland. It's a very good example of some of the reasons why not. And I think the failures are basically failures of organization, failures to get in amongst the people at the grassroots and work on the issues that concern them. And that's what I'd like to do. But you didn't do badly for first time out against someone who is as strong as Paul Sarbanes, though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=394.59,492.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you? Well, I guess I managed to pull about the same percentage that Linda Chavez did when she ran against Barbara mikulski without the disadvantage of running against an incumbent. So we were kind of pleased at that result for the first time out. And I think it shows, along with registration and Bush's victory, that there is good strength and good potential for the Republican Party. But obviously it's not something that can be developed without a lot of hard work at the grassroots, at the local level, where the party, obviously the state legislature and the local offices is weakest. Now, let's let's talk about blacks and the Republican Party. I remember reading an article in The Washington Post by Joshua Smith of the Maxim, a corporation, and he mentioned that it was now time to give the elephant a chance. Do you agree with that? Are blacks missing the boat by not looking at the Republican Party more? Well, I think there is a great danger, as I said during the campaign, that you'll have one party taking the black vote for granted and the other one writing it off. I think that's obviously changing. And I think there is a are signs that both the Democratic Party is coming alive to the fact that it cannot take black support for granted. And the Republicans are beginning to see the potential that is in the black community for Republican support. But both parties are going to have to work to maintain any kind of allegiance from blacks, I think, because in the end, it's going to be the kind of results that are produced for people that are going to attract and hold that allegiance, not just a lot of talk or gestures or tokenism. You know, Jackie, it's really strange that he would say that, but I but I have to agree.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=492.39,580.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I tell people, especially black people, especially on the national level when it comes to Democrats and I'm certainly I'm a Democrat or coming to Democrat or Republican. I think we as a race must look at the person. We have to look at the issues and we have to decide what's best or who is our is talking about those issues that most directly affect us. And in that those cases, then we have to go with that particular person as opposed to going with only a specific party just because for years and years we have been Democratic or because we have been a Republican was very disturbing. And this election was the low voter turnout in the urban area. So many blacks decided not to vote. And that is very disturbing. And many people are trying to analyze why. One explanation is that there was really not much hope in the black community that either party would really address their needs, especially after Jesse Jackson was not really nominated. Yes. And I and I think both parties need to do a better job when it comes to addressing the issues. Both candidates, I think, ran away from any of the important issues. And that was unfortunate in this campaign. There's no excuse for a low voter turnout, but I think those of us who serve in public life have to do something to to do about that low voter turnout. So I think looking into the future, it'll be especially important to to reach out to the younger voters who are coming on stream and the ones who are just getting into the political process. And something else that I would like to be doing in the course of the next little while, getting into the schools, getting into the youth organizations, encouraging people to get involved in the process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=581.25,680.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because I found as I went around to the colleges and so forth that there really is a says, well, it doesn't make any difference, it's not worth bothering with. I can't do anything anyway. And I think that attitude is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and one has to find some way to break people out of that kind of attitude. I agree with you to a certain extent, but I think still a party must show If you're if you're a Democratic Party or the Republican Party, you must show blacks what you stand for or what issues you actually have or want to talk about that affects us. So you can get as involved as you want to. However, if I'm going to be involved with that with the Republican Party and they're not going to address my needs as a black person, then I'm certainly not going to get involved with that Republican Party. By the same token, if the Democratic Party does not address my needs as a black person, I'm not going to get involved with the Democratic Party. And I think both parties this year, they failed to do that. They failed to a. Address the concerns of the majority of the black people across the country. And unfortunately, we said forget it. I know I'm not always in alignment with the needs of your constituency. You have there ever been any frustrations where you had to compromise your personal beliefs because of what your constituency believe? No. As a matter of fact, I tried to explain to my constituents that if we have if there is a difference of opinion, I try to sit down and rationally explain to people, look, I think this is the way we should actually go. And we sit down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=681.21,765.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have a conversation back and forth. I guess I really shouldn't have said no, because that's not totally true. Of course, I compromise with with people. But in this particular case, during the presidential election, I don't think that there was any compromise either on the Democratic side or on the Republican side. But I do think you have to be careful that parties are not static animals. In other words, the party doesn't either have concern for you or not. Through your involvement, you can affect that concern. And that's what people have to remember. The more people get involved in either of the parties and really actively work, they become a powerful influence within that party structure to turn it toward the interests of and concerns of their community. So I think the two things go together. You're right. The parties have to be concerned or they're not. The involvement isn't worth it. But on the other hand, through the involvement, you can increase to speak out on one point. Go ahead. Go ahead. I think there was a major difference between the Republican Party and the Democratic Party speaking out to the concerns of urban America. And I have to make that point on the show. I think the Democratic Party sought the participation in our party and our convention to make sure that we were very clear on including everyone and making a very strong statement on leadership and for our urban centers and for the concerns of the black community. But I think make the mistake of trying to move more to the middle in order to. I don't think the caucus made the mistake to move more to the middle. I think Dukakis did not run the right type of a campaign. I think that's differentiate Dukakis from the Democratic Party.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=765.99,853.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If I might, for one moment, I guess that was the point that I was trying to make. I think Mike Dukakis would have been an outstanding president. I'm sorry he did not win. I think he would have been much better than then George Bush. I think he did not run a very smart campaign. And I think it's reflected somewhat in the low voter turnout in the black community. Well, I don't know. That's a very good point about about the presidential race that we just had. And we'll explore it even further when we come back from this very. Sweet. Sweet. We're back on city land and we're doing our 1989 projections with our three experts. Political experts, correct? Yes. Okay. Let's talk about some of the issues. And we want to do a kind of a lightning round. Let's talk about the drug problem either or on the national level or the local level. We'll start with you. Well, I think we're going to see, obviously a lot of interest in that. They're going to be appointing this drug czar. It's not entirely clear what that is going to accomplish. But I think if they get the right person in there, you could see that become a focus, at least of a coordinated national effort. They're going to be a lot of pressure from Congress. But I think the important thing is going to be the cooperation between the national government and people in the local areas, because this is a problem that obviously has local roots and can't be handled unless you can get a handle on it there. I guess the only thing that I would like to see is the federal government to take a more active role in doing what they say they're trying to do, and that is to actually eliminate or cut down on the amount of drugs that come into this particular country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=854.28,1045.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm little tired of people paying lip service to such a problem. And it is a major, major, major problem. What about it? It is unbelievable. Absolutely unbelievable. It's it's reached epidemic proportions and it's sad, but the federal government has got to step in. Here in the city, we've done a number of things that have tried where we've tried to curtail and try to stop it, but we need federal help. And since the congressman is sitting to my right, I'm sure he's going to go over to Congress, absolutely fight for help once we get this out. You're absolutely right. 88 was the year in which we passed major legislation at the national level, speaking to stopping drugs from coming into this country, speaking to help local government enforce the laws. Drug treatment programs. 89 will be the year whether we put the money up or not. Will the federal government now put its money where its mouth was? And I don't know whether we will or not, but the real challenge will be can we come forward with the resources? Sure. How about an issue with the last time I saw the statistics anyway, Baltimore led the nation teen pregnancy up. Let me say Baltimore no longer leads the nation. We are making an impact. What do we second now? No, we're third. Third now. Newark, New Jersey, is number one. It's sad. It's still very sad. And we certainly should not be number three. But there are a number of people that are working very, very hard. There are a lot of mentor type of programs. And the person that comes to mind immediately for me is Dr. Rosetta Stith, who is at the Park one school. She's done some excellent things with the girls over there, especially with mentoring, and we have to get the message out to to young people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=1045.88,1139.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm saying young people, not just the young ladies, as it as it has always been in the past. Now we have to get both the boys and the girls involved with these things. Now, the report that was released recently mentioned that America has the highest teen pregnancy rate of any industrialized nation in the world. What about a national emphasis? We want to make 1989 the year for programs for our children, including dealing with the issue of teen pregnancy. There's no question, again, that the federal government must be in the leadership here. And we hope and I then President Bush spoke to this, and we hope that we will have leadership in the White House and Congress to make a priority on programs to help our children. But at the end of the day, though, I think focusing simply on the children, on the young people, as if that were entirely their responsibility is a mistake. I think you have to have programs that are going to help to induce that sense of responsibility, give people support. But at the end of the day, it's the stress that we put on the family and the social strength and support that is given to the idea of family integrity and responsibility that is really going to help young people to realize, I think, how to order their lives. And that is something I think that's also going to need stress, not just looking at the individuals, but looking at the way in which we can encourage greater strength. I Constitution could not agree with you more, and I certainly hope that Ambassador Keyes, with his inroads or his in to the Republican Party and President Bush, that Ambassador Keyes will take that message to the White House and tell us that there are some of the programs that are actually happening here in the city of Baltimore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=1140.35,1232.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We recognize that here in the city of Baltimore, and we place great emphasis on not only telling the young people that these think that there are certain things that they should actually do, but also bringing the entire family in on on these programs. So. But I hope that Ambassador Keyes takes that message back to the White House and get some more funds so we can continue to do those things and, you know, go across the entire city. We have excellent programs locally. They're working. We're reinforcing children staying in school, not dropping out that they can make have achievements, but they don't have to become pregnant in order to show that they can accomplish something. I mean, it's working in Baltimore and we have reduced our teen pregnancy rate, but we do need help at all levels of government. Let's address another issue that brought Baltimore to the national spotlight during this election Guns and gun control. How do you feel about it? Well, I guess, you know, you said guns and gun control and all of a sudden my face. Just being. I feel so great about the passage of our gun bill. I cannot tell you. It makes me feel so warm inside. There were many people that were saying that were watching Baltimore and they were saying, of course, the NRA is going to win out. They'll never get something like all of that money pumped in all of the area. You know, it just goes to show you that that the NRA is not as powerful as they would like for us to believe. So I think elated. I think it's going to have a tremendous impact. So you think other states will begin to they're already starting to contact the governor? Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=1233.11,1316.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're going to. I think the proof of that pudding is going to be in the evening if we find the kind of results that we've seen in the district and elsewhere. This is a promise without fulfillment. And I think that it's all well and good to feel a warm feeling about the passage of a measure. But when people start to see that that measure isn't going to have the kind of results that people are claiming for it, they're going to start to demand the kind of approach to law enforcement, the kind of emphasis on basic enforcement, tougher sentencing, the whole panoply of things that are needed to really create a regime that discourages crime. You can't get away from those issues by passing this kind of law. And I think the results are going to show it. I don't I don't buy trying to get away from the laws, but I think this is what federalism is all about. Let the states try law. This is a bold attempt. We're going to see whether it works. Other states will see that's what federalism should be. We let the states try laws. We'll see how they work. They work. We'll either adopt them in other states or the national law on the subject. And we will be watching. But I agree with Alan, if we stop just with this law and say that we've done our job. No, obviously not. But it's an attempt to do something about the volume of guns that we have on the streets. Absolutely. We should be seeing other states doing more about trying to pass laws as well. Sure. We've had some we've had some of those things that is talking about. But now we have something a little bit stronger and we do have that opportunity now to make the difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=1316.76,1391.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's talk about another issue that is as critical here in our own city and state as it is nationally, and it's the issue of homelessness. What what will we see on the national level? And what about on the local level? Well, the McKinney homeless bill that we passed in the 100th Congress is a is the framework that Congress will now follow in trying to deal with the homeless. It's a comprehensive approach, providing money not only for shelters but for health care and for other services to deal with our homeless population. But again, it's a matter of dollars where the program has not been funded at the level that most people believe it needs to be funded. We have a person in our community, Jim Rouse, who headed a national commission looking at affordable housing and the whole issue of housing. We're going to be watching Jack Kemp rather carefully. You know, he has a great reputation in Congress on these issues. And I think that we will be looking for leadership from from the Bush administration to live up to some of the commitments that they made during the campaign and to provide the funds that we think are necessary to deal with the homeless and housing in our country. I'm going to I have a prediction I have to make. And I think this year, 1989, more people across the country are going are going to start focusing in on the problem of homelessness. The media has begun to do that, and I'm very excited about that. I think that's wonderful. But we still need a lot more people to get involved. But it's starting is starting to happen on the federal level. Locally, we don't have there Again, I'm beginning to sound like a broken record.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=1391.94,1479.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We don't have the funds to do the things that we recognize we must do. Aren't there things we can do locally? We have done locally a number of things. A number of of shelters that have been put up, a lot of soup kitchens. People do things individually, but we still need those federal funds. And the congressman is 100% reputation hasn't been built on the view that the way to solve a problem is by throwing money at it. And he won't do it this time. The worst thing we could do with the homelessness problem is spend a lot of money institutionalizing it. What we need to do is analyze the problem, get at its roots. Look at the economic roots of that problem. Look at the psychological roots and devise the programs that are going to maintain people in that condition comfortably, but are actually going to help them to transcend and get out of it. And that's what Jack Kemp has been dedicated to, coming up with the kind of ideas that will really energize the private sector, energize the institutions that can draw people into the mainstream of our life, not just take care of them in their poverty. And I think that's the kind of attitude he's going to take. And I have to you know, I have to agree with only one thing, and that is to get the homeless population back into society, make sure that they do have a home, make sure that they're that they do that they are actually employed. But the ambassador loses me totally when he talks about having all these various programs. Well, doggone it, I'm tired of having these programs. We've had program after program after program, and it's time that there again, the federal government put their money where their mouth is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=1480.2,1566.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Either you're concerned about the homeless issue or you're not concerned about the homeless issue. If you're concerned about it, then you're not going to continue to have programs that don't really do it. Don't show your concern about a problem by pursuing a path that is actually going to institutionalize and make permanent that problem, rather than having people be clear and the approaches that are. Needed, as has been clearly shown in a number of areas, aren't just an emphasis on money and funding. It's an emphasis on coming up with the creative kind of approaches that will really provide people with the avenues of our participation in our economic life, which often isn't government funding, but the need actually to create the jobs where the people are, to create the incentives for the private sector to reach out to those people and draw them into the mainstream. That's a that is the kind of philosophy that needs to be applied. That's going to require government funding, but that's not going to be the only reason with very interesting philosophy that you don't solve a problem by throwing more money at a Do you think the same philosophy is applicable to the drug problem that we have here? Oh, yes. I think that the drug problem is not going to be solved by throwing money at it. There are certain things you have to do that cost money and enforcement and interdiction. But I think that the drug problem is basically a problem that can only be solved through education and not just education, that drugs are bad, but moral education that builds a strong moral identity into our people so that they know that drugs are beneath them. And that's the long term solution. Money is not already we have to break in here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353#t=1566.24,1646.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105583/file/206353/transcript/48983/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we we really wish we had more time to discuss other issues. There are many, many more. But we thank you for coming by and giving us a preview of 1989. It has been a tease. Congressman Cardin and Councilwoman McLean, thank you for coming by. Thanks for having. We'll take a break and come right back. Well, I'm afraid that's all we have time for this week. We will be back next week with another exciting topic. Until then, I'm Harold Anthony. I'm Jackie Hall. And have a good new Year. 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