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We're live on City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie. And I'm Dan. You know, has the black middle class forgotten its people? Some people in the community feel that once some black Americans reach high economic status, that they flee to the suburbs. Others say that once blacks have reached middle class status, they should attempt to help their people who are less fortunate. Could the decline of memberships in black organizations and the plight of black institutions be a result of middle class blacks forgetting their people during school desegregation 30 years later? I'm t. Martin and we'll take a look at how far we've come. And on the entertainment page, we have a tantalizing Tina Turner singing Let's Stay Together. And former member of The Temptations, Dennis Edwards doing his single Don't Look Any Further. Gary Tuchman and Russ Johnson will be here to discuss. Has the black middle class forgotten its people? It's all of this and more as City Line continues. Hi and welcome to welcome back to City Line. We're happy to be with you this afternoon. We've got a very exciting show, I think, today on a subject that really has been bounced around in more barbershops than it has probably in the academic sphere, although we do have an active edition with us today. Gary Tuchman is the publisher of a magazine, a quarterly magazine called American Visions and is also an associate professor at Rutgers University. Ross Johnson is with us also and he is the president of Black United Fund. Welcome, gentlemen. Thank you very much. Let me let me just start off by asking you the question. I mean, has the black middle class forgotten its people? Let's define middle class. Okay. If you talk about people making certain kinds of income, if you're talking about having a certain position in the world in terms of the community, then you have to be talking about the majority of people who are very involved in all phases of the economic, political and social aspects of the community, whether it be a pine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=62.87,200.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mitchell, whether it be yourself with be Billy Murphy. These are the middle class. And if you look historically at Angela Davis as Booker T, Washington and all these other folks who were middle class, you see that they've given a lot of energy and effort to the movement of rectifying the ills of the society in terms of eliminating racism as they have formed organizations like the ACP and the Urban League, the traditional black middle class whites, than is the black bourgeoisie. That's right. Now. Well, but answer the question. Have we forgotten their people? No, I don't think so. If we look at the statistics, let's talk about gift giving. If we look nationally in terms of general gift giving up the all of the population of the United States, we talk about 1.8% of the money has been given in terms of the generally, if we look at major corporations giving money, we talk about 1.2% of that money is being give. If you look at the black community, you talk about 1.5%. So all of it's about the same. I think what we have to do is come up with the mechanisms, the methodology, the strategies of how to entice and market that that that process in terms of the product that you're attempting to sell. Let's have Gary answer the same question. Has the black middle class forgotten its people? I think the black middle class has forgotten its people. I think the circumstances have changed. The traditional black elite, we can go back as early as the eighth, 17th and 18th century were very much involved in questions related to civil rights, eliminating slavery, the post emancipation period, being directly related to getting good access into the to the political process. I think post 1960 has meant that the black middle class, the agenda has changed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=200.46,294.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's created some some sense of loss. I mean, insofar as it's not precisely clear what the new agenda is. And there are all sorts of organizations developing all throughout the country, from theory to groups to black self-help groups. And I think the point is, is that in the next decade, I think what we're going to find is that the agenda will be refined and the sense of of of lack of go will disappear. Gary? Well, first of all, let me remind everybody at home that you can join in our discussion by calling us at 4113, 13. This is a live show and we'd like to get some of your phone calls in. But, Gary, let me let me just go back to what Russell started off doing. Let's define the black middle class. Who are these people? But he keeps talking about the black middle class. There are actually two black middle class. There's the traditional black elite that dates back to the 17th century out of this group. I mean, in Washington, where I'm president reside. There are a large number of people who can trace their ancestries back to the 17th and 18th century. This is a new black middle class which emerged out of out of the 60 seconds. Is that first group still an economic status status that we're talking about? Yes, that's true. Oh, yes, absolutely. The income is an income level. It's an income level. It's a style level. It's a sense of roots. Yeah. The second group, the new black middle class, their history is very different. I mean, rather than going segregated schools and you talking about the traditional black colleges now, they were segregated in the sense that they were created to give an opportunity for blacks to get good college education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=295.23,397.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The new black middle class is going to Ivy League schools have gone through the mainstream schools. They have a sense that the world is theirs. For example, between 1960 and 1970, the number of blacks attending colleges has doubled. The orientation is a bit different. And so both of our guests today would contend that the black middle class is not, in fact, forgotten. It's people that in fact, it's just doing what it ought to do. I think the responsibility of all of the people in the society is to find the strategies and the methodology about which how to go back and approach and pull up the other segment of the population. And we're going to continue our discussion on this and see what the people at home think about it right after this. Fell back on City Line live. And the question is, has the black middle class forgotten its people? And Gary and Ross, I'd like to ask you, both of you seem to agree that the black middle class has not forgotten its people. If it has not, then how do we explain the plight of black institutions? Our colleges? Fisk University, Certainly, to name one. Just one. And how do we explain the plight of the NAACP, which announced not long ago that it was having money and money problems, getting having problems getting money in? How do you explain let me do this, then I'll take about a minute and then I'll turn on the guy. I was talking to Barbara Cooper just a couple of days ago about the same show. Yes. And she should. Great. She said the black middle class is complacent. They're responsible, and they don't adhere to the responsibilities of uplifting those other folks who they've left behind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=398.67,564.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She also indicated that the budget for the year was about $100,000, and they have about 5000 in membership, in contrast to the 18,800 other ACP chapters that are formed in the country. And this was one of the top ten, if you will, in the country with only 5000 membership and a city of a half a million. Help us to focus. Okay. The point is, and in spite of her frustration about saying that, you know, they have ignored the plight of the masses of people and they've gone to the suburbs and they don't be responsive in terms of membership and that kind of thing, that they don't help us to develop this organization, she said. The secret is, though, we have to learn better marketing techniques. And I think that's key. I say, yeah, it's it's it's I think it would be irresponsible for me to take a position in developing the Black United Fund as I talk to a lot of people to say that the black middle class has abdicated its responsibility. When I look at a history of that not being so, Gary, how can you explain the plight of Fisk University and other black institutions around the country where the funding is at a low now and the alumni doesn't appear to be coming forward and the money just simply is not there? Well, let me say two things. First of all, institutions like Fisk University Howard of the traditional black colleges have faced the real problem, that the agendas change somewhat. Once upon a time, they didn't have to compete for black students with the Browns and always kept them away. I mean, they had a captive market. I think the situation now is that they've got to give themselves up for a new a new situation in which they literally have to go out and persuade students that they get the financial education possible there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=566.21,671.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What I'd also say, though, I think is important is that the black middle class is afraid to say that it's middle class. The idea of. Well, you know, it's interesting. You raised us. You raised the point about the black elite, the judicial black elite. That is a negative connotation to a lot of people. I mean, they don't want to be perceived as members of the black elite is probably going back to any francafrique phrases. Black bourgeoisie, which was seen as a negative. Yes. And so a lot of people are afraid to admit they still want to be one of the brothers and sisters on the corner at the same time that they have risen to the black middle class. I think it's it's an important issue. It's not just a problem for black Americans. I think white Americans also feel very hostile to the idea of being middle class. The point is, though, that the middle class is where the expertise is, that they've got to take the leadership role. Let's bring in our home audience at this point. Hi, your live one city line. What's your feeling about whether or not the black middle class has forgotten its people? Good morning, Jackie. Good morning, Daryn. My concern is that when they see that they haven't forgotten the people, only instances or references that I can see as blacks, when they get to a certain level, they imitate white people. They you know, they do what white people do. They go to places that white people go. They try to have white people go and there's no no feedback to where they came from. I mean, you can look around and you can see the great difference between people who have made at the top.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=672.36,758.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then you go in the third neighborhood and you see the people still at the bottom. I mean, when they do get to a certain level, they don't use the knowledge or the expertise, you know, to feed it back in to their neighborhoods or the communities. They go up and live in the suburbs. Yes. Respond. And I think that I think that was one of the part of the charges that we pick up once we achieve middle class status and we move away from the traditional neighborhoods. And that's happened in a lot of cases. And again, I got to go back to the same theme, and it's very important for us to understand that, that if we don't use our imagination and creativity and our innate abilities and talents and resources to to come up with a better mechanism about how to garner support from all of the people, then we always going to sit back and be divisive and say, well, he's not supporting me. And then they don't. And I hate them because they drive us. But Russ, in 1984, why isn't that being done? One of the reasons that's been is one of the reasons that's not being done, because there isn't a because we haven't come up with the methodology to make it a commitment and the people's consciousness. What I'm trying to say is that when you talk to blacks and you say, what is the nature of your own culture? Tell me what's different from the dominant culture in respect of your cultures. Give me the contrast in terms of your sociology, psychology of philosophy, and your history. Most blacks don't even know these things about their own culture. And if you don't teach people the historical and if you don't historically get them focused on where they are in terms of the cultural nuances, then they're not going to have a sense of identity in terms of what they need to do or who they are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=759.15,849.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's key. But but but the charge is that essentially, once we achieve middle class status, we pick up and we move out of the community as opposed to staying in the community, I mean, Southern whites. But so what? But but isn't that the goal of the black middle class? Gary, I want to say this. I think that the charge that the black middle class does not help is really inaccurate. If you look across the country, you can look at all sorts of self-help organizations, adopt adoptive family black student fund. There are students in colleges who go out on recruiting missions to bring black students into major universities. I think people because it's difficult to get a firm sense of the demographics and what's going on out there, have the misguided impression that the black middle class is not doing its job. Okay, we have someone at the mic. Oh, I like to say no race of people have ever gotten on their feet without having a strong economic foundation. I think the black middle class suffer from a bad case of self concern. They are more concerned about their selves. But if they could convert that self concern and concern for others, then they all that money that the doctors say they have and all that these essences that they have, they could, you know, build up their economic foundation. I think that's the greatest weakness, that they are too concerned about themselves and that we our economic foundation is we weaken the commercial and business world. How do you respond? Well, my response is that the size of the black middle class increase is almost doubled in the 1960s and 1970s. There's been some some fall back because of the recession in the late sixties and seventies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=850.56,946.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it's a very new class. It's just acquiring wealth. How how fragile is the black middle class in terms of economic status? Two weeks from two paychecks away from at least paycheck to paycheck. And one of the things that we if we look at statistics, we see that is estimated by De Paul Gibson and some others who wrote the book, the $70 billion in Black book that the black middle class takes in. I mean, the blacks generally take in as in terms of gross national product of about $150 billion a year, 150 billion. That's equal to the ninth largest successful nation in the world. That's a lot of money per capita. That doesn't break down to an awful lot of money. I mean, 22 million blacks, 26, but 26 million, 26 divided by 150 billion, just roughly a lot of money. A resource base is very small. I'm excited by what's going on. Clearly, the number of black businesses are increasing. All black people are getting more involved in the American economic system, an economic system that historically limited their abilities. Writing Me Again, A call from home. Hi, your live on City Line. Hi, good afternoon. My question is, we have a black entertainer who's very well known. His name is Michael Jackson. He's quoted as being worth approximately $49 million. My question to you is, where is his effort? We're emulating him. We're we're we're stimulating his business. We're stimulating his profit. But yet and still, I don't have a I'm taking some of these millions of dollars and building an institution of technology to train young black children to do something. He cannot possibly spend $49 million in his lifetime already. What is what is the responsibility of black entertainers and black superstar athletes? It is their responsibility to come back to the community, to uplift that community, to establish a new quality of life for that community in terms of the economics and the business and the politics of it all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=947.36,1055.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Again, I say if we don't come up with a mechanism, if we don't come up with the strategies, if we don't come up with the methodology in terms of how to institute that, to put in place those organizations that will address themselves to those needs. Who is it that determines that Michael Jackson has to give up his 49 million for anyone? No, I think it's a matter of the raising of the consciousness level of Michael Jackson. I mean, but why should we expect Michael Jackson to give up his money to build an institution for someone else? Well, I think if we look at the history of what Frederick Douglass said, John, the truth and Harriet Tubman and Booker T Washington and all those folks have done for us up to this point to get us this far. It is our responsibility to get the next generation a step beyond. That's it for that answer. We're going to take a break and come back and discuss additional responsibilities of the black middle class. Stay with us. Now, here's this week's community calendar. Hello, I'm Lynette Rice, representing Southwestern High School Alumni Association. We are sponsoring the class of 74 and 7510 year class reunion on Saturday, June nine at the farm from 9 p.m. till 2 a.m.. Tickets must be purchased by May 30th, and a cost is $24 per person, which includes an open bar and buffet. For further information, call 3628271. Good afternoon. I'm Reverend William Gregg, representing the Mt. 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We're back and continuing our discussion of how has the black middle class forgotten its people with our guest, Gary Tuchman, the publisher of American Visions magazine, and Russ Johnson, who is the president of the Black United Fund. Just before we went away, I had a burning question. They ask the question, which is essentially has how has integration affected the growth of the black middle class as opposed to segregation, where we had to deal with each other, where we where we were sensitive to the needs? Whenever we've got open housing, we've got open accommodations, we can go to the Hilton now. We don't have to go to Brown's motel, as that had a negative effect or positive effect. But I think some negative, some positive I think I'm most concerned about is that while integration has happened, we can go into the Hilton and what have you. White America doesn't patronize our places partly because of negative stereotyping and a long history, but also because here is where the black middle class needs to become more aggressive. It needs to give the direction, it needs to make people understand that Afro-American culture is very rich and has some very important things to offer in there requires leadership and perhaps a bit of elitist but incorporated In your statement, though, Gary, is a sense, too, that not only do other ethnic groups have negative impressions of our institutions, but that our own middle class has negative impressions of our own institutions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=1299.7,1450.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I agree. And that is why maybe we flee to the suburbs and flee to the places that are not black. Well, you know, I think it's a complicated question. And there is this kind of underlying when just the sense of this underlying sense of of negativism. I went to a movie last night very quick, and it was clear that some of the characters were being portrayed as blacks and the stereotyping was very negative. It's gremlins. Stephen Strasburg, our new movie, Negative Stereotyping, So that if you are just one tool from local restaurant tour, you cannot get white people into your into your establishments through mass media. All right. Let's bring in another caller from home. Hi, You're live on City Line. Yes. One point that I wanted to make is that, first of all, I think that when we look at the black middle class today, the black middle class are where they are because of sacrifices their parents made and because of the civil rights activities of the sixties. I think that today the black middle class lacks the same sacrifices, lacks the commitment to make the same sacrifice that their parents made for them. I think the black middle class is too materialistic. We want to live like the Joneses, the Joneses being the white middle class. And I just don't think that we are making the investment in our children's future that our parents made for us in the eighties and damn card in. Very good point. Thank you for the call. We'll have our guests answer that now. I absolutely disagree. I think the black middle class ought to be materialistic. We've got to establish an economic base. We've got to think about putting more money into our own pockets so that we can have some impact on the American process.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=1450.88,1561.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And to say that to say that we're too militaristic, I think really understates. No, I disagree on that. I think. I think he was referring to a conspicuous consumption kind of process where we tend to buy the Cadillacs and the Mercedes is that's like it's a statistic. In 1976, it said that and I was reading Paul Gibson's book again, the $70 billion in black. He said the black America spend 10% of their income for whiskey. That's that's out of $70 billion. That's $7 billion. That's a lot of money. Often the top line or no question about that. And we buy 49% of all the grape soda made, 30% of all the Coca Cola made, etc.. It goes on and on. I think that we we have to stop spending our money for gold, diamonds and silver and big cars and begin to reinvest those kind of monies back into our community. And I say, if I, I would disagree with you humbly just a little bit. I mean, gold, diamonds and silver are good are good economic investments over a long period of time. Whiskey is about the best grapes of the the lousy investment. Coca-Cola, lousy Boston go down and the silver builds. The economic base really has no practical value. But okay, I can understand that if you're going to collect gold and talk about but I'm talking the gold ring and the gold bracelets and all this, we spend an inordinate amount of money for these kind of little trinkets when when we need to reinvest that money back into human life and education and uplifting the community, That's very important. More important than gold and diamonds around my neck. Isn't that the the physical sign that we make to folk that we've arrived? And that's that's our whole focus on purchasing conspicuous consumption items to make better that we have arrived.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=1562.63,1658.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. And that's what we have to be. Programed away from. We have another caller. Hi, your live on City Line. Hello. Um, my question is with all organizations, but we have in the information that blacks have access to nowadays. Um. The black middle class is responsible to continue to help make a better way for black. I understand that it it it would be nice, I guess, to have a black who's more fortunate than I am to help pave the way for me. But is it their continued responsibility? We keep on baby getting these people who are not going out to the libraries or whatever to find out what else they can do to help help themselves. Okay. But I think the caller is ask the $64 question. No question. The libraries are empties and the boards are crowded. I agree. Now, by the same token, is the responsibility of all of us. Middle class or not middle class, whatever you perceive yourself to begin to come up with the strategies. Again, I got to repeat the strategies and the methodologies about how to uplift the rest of the race. Who is we? All of us. Me, you. All of us. I'm involved in a black united fund and I decide to get involved because I knew there was a need for for fund raising organization to put money back into the community. Yeah, well, I think the point here is that if the black middle class doesn't do it, who is going to take on the responsibility? And I think that's that's the fundamental question. And we cannot run from the leadership question then I would argue that we're not running from the leadership question. I think our resources are small and we're building all those resources and putting them in place, but I think we're on the move.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=1658.66,1761.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me say something, too. There was a summit conference held in Nashville about three weekends ago of 100 and some black organizations, and that indeed was one of the conclusions that came out of that summit that the middle class black community must make a commitment to change the plight of all black people. As you said, if the middle class doesn't do it, then let's just look at the statistics of the black middle class. We're talking about the new black middle class, which is the nouveau, which is the most sizable part of the black middle class, very young. I mean, the average age is between 30 and 40, and they're just getting their careers underway. They don't have large pools of money. Um, but I think you're being responsive. Okay. We're going to continue our discussion on how has the black middle class forgotten its people right after this. Yeah. I have so little time left in our discussion of whether or not the black middle class has forgotten its people, that we're going to rush through this as quickly as we can and get it in as many points. We have a question at the mic. Yes, we're speaking about the middle class African-American, whether or not he has forgotten the plight of his people. But I think the question should be broadened to deal with, oh, stratosphere of the African-American community and what we need to do in order to improve the condition of all of us. We don't want to remain middle class. We want to move into to the higher class and be a real force in demonstrating leadership to the nation and eventually the world. Okay. Response. I think African-Americans have something very unique to offer the world. We left the American people in this country, made the words of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington in reality, and we have that to offer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=1761.88,1962.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I would agree that the black middle class, it has to work on this community problem. But I think the world has something to learn from the black experience. That's a very good question. Frederick Douglass says Power concedes nothing without a demand and never has and it never will. And the limits of tolerance are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress. If you continue to let the economic, political and the social process is being antithetical to your development as a community, then you deserve what you get. All of us have to get up and begin to lift ourselves out of this morass of racism. But isn't it interesting that we often imitate? No question that which is no question, because that's the programing of the system. Is that pervasive? And we want to break the program. Talk about invitation. I mean, invitation is supposed to be the sincerest form of flattery. But but but in all this, it is not the the the the question, has the black middle class forgotten? As people implies, money implies that we need to put money back into the black community. And that's, I think, how most people read it. But the the way that we tend to attempt to put money back into the community is something that I call banker Titus. We decide that he has a problem that we want to address by raising some money for it. And so what we do is we have a banquet. So what do we do? We have the Hilton or we have the house or whatever. And right away, we throw a banquet. We charge $50 a person for the banquet and and 80 and 80% of that goes to the caterer and 80% of the people can't get there for $50 a person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=1962.74,2045.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me say that $1.5 billion was estimated to be raised last year by the black community of which that 80. Now, the United States about 1.1%, 10% of the gross national product of my community, and 80% of that went to churches. So we have to make our churches and their outreach programs more responsive to the needs of feeding the hungry, clothing, the naked and housing the homeless. That's what we have to do as a people. We have to all get involved and make sure the economic uplift happens in our community by using our imagination, creativity, talents, efforts and resources. That's all of us have. All are from home high. Do you have a point to make concerning the black middle class? Yes. I'm considered to be a black middle class person. I'm a teacher. I teach in the suburbs. However, I lived in the city all my life. I did not want to teach in the suburbs. A job was offered to me. We did not always just get up and leave the city. However, now that I'm there, I find that a lot of black parents that have students in the suburbs tell their children, Don't listen to your black teachers. I'm teacher and also I would like to say to I guess sometimes you have to think the circumstances present themselves too. To us being the people which I consider middle class, to go places not necessarily where we want to go, but simply that we try to make the best of a bad situation. Now, I myself like to say that I would prefer to teach in a city school. I can't teach there right now, and I'm living in the suburbs. Not that I like it because I don't go anyplace.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=2045.99,2131.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I stay in my apartment 24 hours. Most of the time I'm not teaching. However, I go back to the area where I came from. I have a sister is getting ready to go to college. She's going to a black college. I came from a black college. Okay, You've raised some points that we'd like our guests to respond to, if you will. Thank you for the call. I think clearly there needs to be a move of gentrification, move by the black middle class back into some of the urban centers. But clearly, if you're going to give leadership and direction, you've got to be there on the spot. I think one of the ways to improve black schools is for the black middle class to move back into some of the urban centers. Hopefully at some point that'll happen. It needs to be encouraged, needs to be talked about at the very least. I think that's part of the agenda that needs to to get very youth centered in Washington right now. And in Washington, you've got a huge outflow of blacks from from D.C., the capital. I mean, chocolate cities is what it's been called. You've got a huge outflow of blacks into Prince George in Montgomery County there in the northern suburbs of Virginia. Is that affecting significantly the growth of blacks in D.C.? Well, clearly, the brain drain is I think about it out of the black community has to have an impact. We need to learn how to stabilize our community such that we want to live there. And I think part of that is moving back in and fighting the good fight. Well, listen, if I can get you to answer in just a few seconds, okay. Has the black middle class forgotten its people, Gary? Absolutely not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=2132.27,2217.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No. I think as we have looked at historically, the individuals who have led the movement in terms of socio economic and political justice that have always been the middle class. And that just has to be continued, has to be continued. And we have to come up with stratagems and new ideas of how to make that continue. Thank you both so very, very much. Gary Tuchman and Ross Johnson, we thank you for being with us today. We're going to take a break. And Montana, we'll begin with the news. Good afternoon. Topping today's news cab, it was 30 years ago that the US Supreme Court handed down the decision that outlawed school segregation. And though progress has been made, desegregating America's schools was not easy in 1955. And it is not easy today. We get a report from Dick Sanders. 30 years ago, the Supreme Court, in a unanimous decision written by Chief Justice Earl Warren, ruled that segregated schools were inherently unequal and therefore unconstitutional. The case was titled Brown versus the Board of Education after Linda Brown of Topeka, Kansas, a third grader who had to walk a half mile to catch a bus to a black school two miles away when there was a white school only blocks away. In 1951, her father and other black parents went to court and lost until the Supreme Court ruled. In recent interviews, Linda Brown Smith, now 41, recalled that all she wanted to do was go to school with Mona and one of her because that's who she played with every day. Her comment on integration today, it's still very disheartening to me because we find after 30 years that the mandates of Brown have still not been met. Desegregation of schools is definitely an issue today, as it was 30 years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=2218.09,2455.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In 1979, Mrs. Smith, as a parent of two, joined another lawsuit still pending which seeks greater racial balance in Topeka school. Dick Sanders, ABC News, Washington. I was saying that last week on City Line, we reported there were 21 members of the Congressional Black Caucus. That number was correct. But as of this November, there will be 20 members. Congresswoman Katie Hall of Indiana was unsuccessful in her reelection bid. She steps down in November, being replaced by a white. A bank has threatened to foreclose on the suburban Silver Spring, Maryland, home of Congressman Lewis Stokes of Ohio. Court documents show that Stokes and his wife have fallen over $2,000 behind in their mortgage payments since February. In a statement issued by his office, Stokes said the cost of sending his children to college and unexpected medical expenses have created a temporary hardship for him. A black Muslim Marine who testified that he refused to join his Beirut bound unit so he would not have to shoot at fellow Muslims, was demoted Thursday, given a bad conduct discharge and sentenced to four months confinement. Reginald Reynolds has a report. Corporal Alfred Griffin came to court hoping to convince a military judge that he should not be punished for going AWOL and missing a troop movement. His hopes were too high. Judge Charles Bremer sent us him to just about the maximum punishment allowed under military law. A protest. My sentence. And I'm gonna go a little bit beyond just protesting. I am going to fast to I am released to receive justice. Which. Which is what I was supposed to receive when I entered that court. I am regretful that we did not move the military judge far enough that he couldn't bring himself to walk the required mile and to give Corporal Griffin what would have amounted to far more lenient treatment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=2457.15,2574.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Griffin says he refused to go to Lebanon because he couldn't fight against his Muslim brothers. But prosecutors argue that his first allegiance was to his fellow Marines. The Marine Corps has a procedure for conscientious objectors or persons, however you want to characterize it, do not feel they can participate in any kind of a combat situation for religious beliefs. And what he should have done was gone through his chain of command, made that apparent to his chain of command, and they probably would have been able to do something about it. Griffin's attorneys have asked that he remain free until he has a chance to appeal. But the prosecutor rejected that motion. So tonight, Griffin is spending the first of four months in military jail. After weeks of complaining about media coverage of his presidential campaign, the Reverend Jesse Jackson has moved to provide telephone calls from across the nation daily, five minute phone messages on his positions. The new phone service kicks off tomorrow, Monday, and is available to anyone with a telephone. It is capable of handling up to 14,000 calls a day. Anyone interested in listening to the pre-tape Jackson messages may do so by calling. One 900 401. V. O. T. E. Again, that number is one 900 401. V. O. T. Again, that service does not start until tomorrow. After a woman passes the grand old age of 25. Chances of finding a husband deteriorate rapidly. So says a group of Princeton University researchers. Their study has found that in the 2224 age range, there are 126 suitable white men for every 100 suitable white women. For black women in that age range. There are 93 suitable men for every 100 women. But once the lady reaches 25, the number of bachelors available to her shrinks significantly with the season of proms, graduations and summer vacations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=2575.32,2698.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The government is launching a campaign against drunk drivers with the help of superstar Michael Jackson. Here's a report from Patricia Segun. Well, they didn't get him back through the iron fence at the White House. They did manage a glimpse of the 25 year old Idol upstaging the former Hollywood movie star turned president with a wave of his famous sequined glove. Normally, reserved White House staffers left their offices to gape a bit, too. Well, isn't this a thriller? It is much Michael Jackson's squeaky clean, private lifestyle, as well as his incredible superstardom that the White House wants to use as the hook to capture the attention of the nation's teenagers. This sobering music video, public service ad, is what they will see on television soon. Just kidding. I've got to go home. Oh, come on, Carrie. She wants to go home. Right? Just go. It's okay to drive. Fine. You should relax. What's a few beers if you don't stop your friend from drinking and driving? The risk. Good is dead. Drinking and driving can kill a friendship. Jackson has donated the rights to use the song Beat It. In the ad, the president gave him an award for public service in communication and praised him for the example he sets. Michael Jackson is proof of what a person can accomplish through a lifestyle free of alcohol or drug abuse. People, young and old, respect that. And if Americans follow his example, then we can face up to the problem of drinking and driving. And we can, in Michael's words, beat it. But if fans still held out that hope that Jackson would perform for this polite but adoring audience, they were disappointed. As the shy entertainer said, only thanks to the screams of the crowds outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=2699.27,2813.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm very, very honored. Thank you very much, Mr. President and Mrs. Reagan. That's all. No dancing, no singing. Just a brief glimpse of a superstar. This is Patricia Saigon at the White House. And finally, an industrious ninth grader at Northern Junior High School is City Line student of the Week. Tina Jennings placed fifth in the citywide Geography Bee. She is a student council representative and a member of the French choir. Tina enjoys roller skating, ice skating and playing soccer. Next year, Tina plans to attend Bergen Falls Vocational Technical High School, where she will study computers. Congratulations to Tina Jennings, City Line student of the Week. And that is today's news. Kat and Tim on Tier More with Jackie and Dan up next. Have a good day. On the entertainment side, we have one of the most explosive entertainers ever. That's Tina Turner and also Dennis Edwards singing their hits. Let me say this. Since we've been to get. You. It's all I've been. That may be what you come running. Oh. I. Are. You need to. All right, Well, we. Got me. What do you got? Is. So once in a while I would say, here, I need a man to take over from state government and say that we stay too cool to be cowed by. 39 1909. I still haven't. I don't know. I don't know. It's. But. Now you know where we stand. Don't know why. So. Oh nine and. Have. But then. Oh. Oh. Boy, those are fantastic videos Now, like those. What do you think about Tina Turner? Well, when I grow up, I want to be just like, well, when I grew up, I was like, I do well, but I got nothing but admiration for the lady. You know, the Dennis Edwards video we said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=2814.47,3447.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dennis Edwards then is Edwards name, obviously is on the record. But the lady with him is an up and coming rising superstar by the name of Siedah Garrett. And I think you'll be hearing big things about her in the future. Indeed. I hope about next week's show. Yes. Yes. We have a special salute. This is this is a secret. Don't tell anybody. You probably won't have to tell me, but I just kind of keep this quiet. Salute to Michael Jackson next week. And what are we going to do, Jack? Well, we will have Baltimore's own look alike. Dance alike, act alike. Fabulous. We'll have the Fabulous from the over 12 competition. And we'll also have the the fantastic, sensational five year old Tony Williams, who is just about the cutest thing you ever saw dancing and acting like Michael Jackson. And so you won't want to miss that. But we're also going to have author Mark Bego Bago, I believe it is, who has written a book called Michael Jackson. Exactly. Which gives us the real story about Michael Jackson, the background material, and also why we worship him. And we'll get the whole thing about, you know, how Michael did everything and how he came along through the Jackson five and how he's become what he is now. But but but, you know, the fact is that one of the things that people always talk about is how much money Michael Jackson has now. Well, Mark Big was looking into that and he knows the answer. And you've got to tune in next week to do it. Now, if you want to be in our studios next week, please give us a call at 481 13, 13. And right now, space. Now you can almost bet that we're going to be booked up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094#t=3447.75,3535.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/85891/file/174094/transcript/47235/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So if you want to be in the studio with us, going to have to do it right now. 481 13 you're going to have to give us a call and you're going to have to reserve a seat because believe it or not, the phone's already ringing off the hook, I'm sure. But keep calling back and we'll try to get as many people in as possible. Also, one of the things that we try to remind you of at all times is if you want to give us an idea because we get ideas from you, if you want to give us some ideas about us, you will give us some comments on the show. You can write us here at Channel 13. Jay Z Television, Baltimore, Maryland, two one, two, one, one. And that's on television here. And we'll take a look at whatever you write and decide whether or not we want to do a show on it. Most of our ideas do come from the audience. By the way, a friend of mine told me over the weekend that her letter was read and we made her an instant star. Fantastic. We really appreciate your letters. That's this week's edition of Citizen. I'm Dan Hanson. 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