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We ask those of you at home and those of you on our panel, what's your opinion about that? ALLEN Christo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=105.71,123.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's time to take the profit out of the drug deals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=124.43,126.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Richard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=126.32,126.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Phyllis Brotman I think it's an incredibly good idea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=127.01,129.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Voice Mostly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=130.25,130.759"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's rather ridiculous. I think Mr. Smoke is trying to get national.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=131.3,134.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Publicity and Bob Share.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=134.45,135.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I made that proposal on this show two months ago. I like it as much now as I did before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=136.28,140.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about decriminalizing drugs and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. Good evening, everyone. Saturday night at 730, I'm Richard Sher. Welcome back to square off the mayor this week in Washington addressing the National Conference of Mayors on AIDS said that he feels that treating the drug problem as a public health problem rather than a criminal situation would discourage and decrease drug trafficking. The mayor realized his proposal would not be popular, and most of the people at the conference thought that decriminalization would increase drug violations. Now, Bob, you did. I'll let you speak first, because you did invite you to speak first because you did propose this several weeks ago. Maybe the mayor was watching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=140.57,189.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think it's a good idea and it's very controversial, obviously. First of all, it's important that we realize the mayor is only asking for a discussion. I mean, he he's not he hasn't made up his mind that it's a good idea himself, but it's worth discussing. Everything is worth discussing. The reason I like it is because we are losing the war on drugs. We are spending a fortune trying to keep our borders protected from drugs coming in from other countries and so forth. We're not we're not winning the war. Why not take the profit out of it? If you take the profit out of drugs by legalizing it, decriminalizing it, you're going to be cutting out crime. Right now, a person that is hooked on drugs and you can be hooked, whether it's legal or illegal, that's not going to stop the person from getting hooked. If you're hooked now to pay these inflated prices, you're going to rob people. You're breaking to their homes. You kill people. If you don't have to pay inflated prices. Crime is going to go down because you're not to kill anybody to rob them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=189.52,240.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's oversimplification, don't you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=240.97,242.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's worth discussing. First of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=242.9,243.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e All, how will the program be implemented? Woodward Would we have state drug stores where where the people would come in and buy the drugs? And shouldn't laws reflect the more morals of a society?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=244.0,258.399"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, wait. Now you know that the same thing happened with liquor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=259.029,262.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, that's that's that's that's that's entirely different. That's entirely different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=263.25,266.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Is a drug, as far as I'm concerned. There are too many similarities and it should be dealt with. I think the mayor's proposal is excellent. And, you know, you recognize that in London, in the Great Britain, they have legalized drugs and it's not working. And it is work. It's not working here. Pardon? It is working. And it's stopping the crime that is based on drug money. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=267.1,287.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Here's the problem as I see it. I think there should be a dialog nationally to determine a drug policy and whether or not you're going to provide a method to get legal drugs to the addicts. But we're not prepared to fight the war on drugs. We're not committed to fighting the war on drugs. We give foreign aid to countries where the drugs are raised. We deal with foreign political leaders and turn them into billionaires knowing that they're making their money on drugs. The cowardice on the part of the political leaders is a cowardice based on being unwilling to face the truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=287.92,319.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You're talking about one. You're talking about the source of drugs into this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=319.34,322.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I have to do both, which you have to do, but you can't. I'm sorry. Sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=322.67,326.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But I promise you that we all look alike. Go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=326.8,331.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I resent that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=331.87,332.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The point. The point being here, that you have to deal with both ends of the spectrum. If you're going to talk about the criminal aspects of drugs, you have to talk about the criminals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=334.93,342.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's true. And that's why I believe the mayor has suggested that there be a dialog and that there be conversation about it, because just as you said, there are too many aspects of this that unless we sit down and list all the problems, then we will never recognize what should be done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=343.6,359.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I want us to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=359.71,360.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me say this. I would bet you anything that if we legalize drugs, you're going to cut armed robberies, murders and burglaries are going to go down 75%.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=361.33,369.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What happens to the fiber of society?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=370.81,372.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You can't legislate moral.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=373.48,374.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Fiber with society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=376.06,376.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=376.99,377.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, always the same thing is when you when you take liquor, you had to legislate morals. When we legislated all everything that had to do with spirits in the line, it's the same exact thing. We have another problem with that because of drunk driving. But haven't we come very far since the thirties when the legislation took place?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=377.95,395.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think you can compare liquor with drugs, but they're both. They're both. They're both drugs. But cocaine is much more damaging to the physical being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=396.76,409.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Then let me ask about Cigarets. All right. Cigarets. You know what they decided to do with Cigarets? They decided to take a lot of money, which they can do with drugs and educate the public. All right. That's what they ought to do. Instead of taking money in drugs and trying to steal our borders, which are impossible. Take that money. And at the same time, you decriminalize it, you educate the public. But that's something cigarets are legal and you've got less people smoking today than ever before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=410.43,435.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Education that has to go with this stuff. And, you know, smoking when airlines now when the flights are 2 hours or less and there are certain flights and certain airlines that no longer promote.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=436.36,445.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Stop and frisk, the idea of alcohol and tobacco don't really apply here. Well, let me tell you why you're dealing with people who have different mindset. And different values. Voice raises the issue of morality. The drug addict is not concerned about morality. He sees the world differently. He sees his body starting to ache because he wants another fix. He sees the need for money to get that fix to stop the ache. But he's not using middle class values, however, does not think that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=446.2,474.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's the key reason why you ought to decriminalize. That's because the addict is going to the attic is going to shoot up. Whether it's legal or illegal. Well, wait a minute. Let me finish. So if he's going to do it either way, I would rather make I'd rather make it easier for him to pay for his next fix than to come in and rob me to get money to pay inflated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=475.52,493.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Bob, there should be a dialog on this question, but you can't have your local convenience store handing out Dr. Feelgood. But you're right. 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Get away from the suburban middle class value system that we're trying to impose on the drug problem. There are a lot of what is called the drug of the. People are copping out by sticking drugs up their nose. Why?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=530.24,545.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But there are people who are in high positions who do the very same thing. 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Now imagine that. Now the drugs are decriminalized all right there. Some people argue whether or not that means that they are now legal. What kind of streets, what kind of society? 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I think that's what you get if you legalize drugs. It has to be in a clinical setting. You're going to have to have proof of addiction and you're going to have to keep the drugs away from them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=576.5,591.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly. Correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=591.4,591.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think anyone will change. I don't think I don't think you're going to find that many more people involved with drugs because now a a kid, for example, or a first timer, he can get all the drugs he wants. A pusher would love to hook. 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What's important at this stage, however, we don't have all the answers on it. What's important is to acknowledge that there is maybe another thing to investigate, another way of doing things. If we can get over that hurdle and have a dialog, maybe we can come up. You're right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=644.99,659.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Never answered that. You're never going to have a dialog when that dialog is based upon the possibility of decriminalizing drugs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=659.74,668.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Voice I think it's most important, especially now that the Mayor has brought it to the attention nationally, that we do have that dialog. There is nothing more important than that, getting any kind of drug off this one extra any time. I think that we should do it. 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We have a number of teachers who will do the least they possibly can for a number of reasons. One reason they want they don't want to irritate youngsters and the youngsters may become too aggressive. And another reason is that some of them are just lazy. And the third reason is that the unions have developed in teachers now a particular mindset. Teachers are more interested in working conditions as opposed to teaching youngsters. What disturbs me greatly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=841.9,886.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Is what I think the Reagan administration did, which is positive, is a couple of years ago they introduced the concept of merit pay. 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And we're even extending that to the college level now where we're saying, well, you don't have to read certain things in order to graduate. Do you know in Baltimore County as an example, that you can fail part of your year? And based on a point system, if you have accumulated enough points, you will still be declared a graduate of that high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=935.53,980.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There's another problem, and that is and we've talked about it before. We have to create a climate to learn. 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This premise that on parental choice and school selection, the secretary suggests that if parents were given a greater, greater choice and more of the parents, then of course, pick the better schools for their children that this bad schools would be forced to improve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1001.03,1017.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I happen to agree with that. I think that there's there's really no no competition in the school system among the schools. If youngsters and their parents were allowed to choose the schools they want to attend, it would force those of us who have schools that are less than than adequate either shape up or we don't. We go out of existence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1017.67,1037.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Which will benefit everybody either way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1038.16,1039.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e We way we take a look at the schools in Asia. Why is it that the Japanese and the Chinese learn so much that compared to them we are culturally disadvantaged? 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Also, education is very important in the family, and the family is not as disruptive to the children as they are in the United States. I think that I don't really care about what Secretary Bennett's second report says, because I don't think he's looking at what the root problem is of good education for all kids in the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1056.01,1078.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Brings this point up about discipline. Did you see the report on Eyewitness News a couple of weeks ago that some of the weapons found in the school system in the city were elementary school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1078.49,1088.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. You see the point of Asians doing much better in their educational system, I think stems to two things. One, the family. The family is a tight knit. Group, the family pushes the youngster. The second point is the society itself is extremely competitive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1089.39,1108.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Aren't you always what I'm saying? Yes, I am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1109.34,1111.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Our society here in this country, we're no longer really competitive. We attempt to reduce things to the common denominator, and that common denominator produces mediocrity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1112.1,1124.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't you also find that you were forced to pass kids that don't should not be passed to a higher grade?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1124.65,1130.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, not to my pressure. I'm not so much forced to have to pass kids to a higher grade. My greatest problem is in the area of discipline. For example, if I send a youngster home, the youngster's parent calls the school board president calls the president of the city council, Coles or councilman. And then in return, my superior calls me to Washington, the youngster home, for example. 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They cannot identify presidents of the United States. They don't know. They did a survey and they showed a picture of the debate between Nixon and Kennedy. They said, we know Nixon. Who's the other guy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1224.18,1235.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the whole problem is, is that from one of the reports that I read is that you could not teach the children those kinds of subjects. You taught them to pass the grade or to pass the next test that was coming along or the SATs to pass something hard. 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I mean, don't you find that there are good qualified teachers that are leaving via private industry?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1278.3,1284.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's talk about money. Let's put money on the on the firing line here. You talk about money in Baltimore City. You have the highest teenage pregnancy rate of any city in the United States. 13 and 14 year old girls have babies. Five years later, they're ready to go into the school system. How are you going to prepare those children to compete in the classroom? 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Well, that all other students that can't read and they're not pregnant and they can't read.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1322.73,1331.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Some of them are males and they're helping the daughters get pregnant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1333.59,1336.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You do not have enough good qualified teachers, do you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1336.98,1339.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think that has anything to do with it's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1339.83,1341.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Not going to help the pregnant kids. But there's a lot of people that go to school that aren't pregnant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1341.99,1344.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You can't oversimplify the problem. The problem is several fold. One, we need greater support from parents in the education of their youngsters. Two, we we need qualified people in an education. Three, we need greater, greater support from the community at large. A big mistake that we made, and I think that helped lead to the deterioration of the schools here in Baltimore is desegregation. What desegregation came the the dismantling of what we called neighborhood schools. 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And and thirdly, to be honest with you, we would have better teachers and we would have teachers who care and who are not afraid of the children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1385.22,1413.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That is wonderful what you said. I totally agree with you. But you can't force and you can't legislate parents to be interested in their kids. 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We have to make parents responsible for their youngsters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1430.43,1442.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And how do you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1442.49,1442.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There are there are a number of ways of doing it. I had suggested that youngsters who are on welfare, their parents should be held accountable for their youngsters coming to school, and if they don't, their welfare payment should be reduced.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1443.12,1454.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I love it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1455.06,1455.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Things like that. 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You can't get him out that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1457.43,1465.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There can be wonderful. Wonderful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139#t=1465.5,1467.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119400/file/224139/transcript/62909/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We would like to know how you feel about these panelists or any of the subjects discussed. Please write to us to square off. WJC TV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland two one, two, one one. We'll read your letters on the air. Congratulations to you fellows. Your business image Dynamics name by Baltimore magazine is one of the most admired businesses in our city. Gentlemen, shall we? Alan, we listen to you on FDR. Voice on air, Bob on Baltimore County Cable. We'll see you next Saturday night at 730 for the battle of the ministers with less than solving others. 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