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We did. Are you ready for my mother? That's right. Left is very close to my heart. Of course. How could I? Well, here's the whole theory. Right. Yeah. One two punch guy. Now, that could be no problem. But there's no anything like that. What are you doing? She wants to know why he had to do it. Maybe that is right. Maybe that's just. Yeah. Does that look like fun? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Straight down. There was also a picture that came over here. What is this? It was in the app when he used to listen to these Yiddish sermons. He could understand. So I don't know what. That. That was decent of her. My daughter and friend in our rehearsal area need to get this off for you and real American friends. Try to not. Wait a minute. We stay with Mary. So the son was having a birthday party, so they invited us to worship in their home. They don't have a fortune to support me because I can only tell them to be on television. And then you wind up on the cutting room floor. I won't even turn it off to watch. They don't even have a cutting room floor. They say that because. And what is this, like a street car interview? Why anybody would interview him. The street. It's not fair to you, baldy. What is this? Another truck. Check out the tag for me. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Mary had a little lamb. Mary had a little lamb. Boy, was everybody surprised. Try it again for me. Mary had a little lamb. Okay. Yeah. Okay, Now give me a name. My name is deployed, and it's l l o y d. That's affirmative. You. I found some footage of you and Gene Downey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=1.37,185.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Probably around 1977. 78. Somewhere back there. Casting a shadow on. And they're the. You were a conductor then. You were working down here at the streetcar museum? That's right. Volunteering. Tell me about it. Well, I'm a volunteer at the Baltimore Streetcar Museum. I have been since we opened in 1966, and I am the chief instructor superintendent of transportation. I'm also act as a motorman or conductor or an operator, depending on and dispatcher at different times. And this is all volunteer. It's all volunteer. No one at the streetcar museum gets paid for anything, including yourself. Including myself. So you've been here almost 30 years? Just about 20. 20? 27 years. Did you ever work for the the Baltimore Transit Company? Back in 1947 and 48, I worked for the Baltimore Transit Company. I was an operator on various lines, also a motorman and conductor on different lines, including the Sparrows Point line. So you actually got a chance for real to did you say drive on those streetcars? You were either an operator or a motorman on the front end of the car and operators is on a one man car where you do everything. A motorman was on a two man car where you have a conductor on the back of the car that collects fares. So what do you do? I mean, do you drive a streetcar or while you operate it? You operate a streetcar, run it. So you had an opportunity getting off after you were out of the service? Right after I got out of the Navy. When? Okay. So back when you were when you got the service, you got a job as an operator. That's right. So you had an opportunity to operate your own streetcar. That's. That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=186.71,321.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All over town. I worked on various lines when I worked at Park Terminal. It was number one, which was the Gilmore Street line number two, which was very straightforward avenue number five, which was downtown all the way over to Patterson Park and out to Park Heights and Manhattan Avenue. And the 32, which went out to Woodlawn and going to Oak Park. What I'm going to ask you to do is just sort of like talk about the stuff that we had photographs of. So and I have a shot of you working that work in that one streetcar. What kind of streetcar was that known as? The kind that you were the opera. Okay, I was. I was when I worked on the Sparrows Point line, we ran what was called the Red Rockets. They were frequently two car trains that went from Baltimore to Sparrows Point and the Bay Shore when it was open. We also had a branch off to Fort Howard, and I went down Dundalk Avenue in the center strip. And those cars really moved along. But that was an electric overhead line. Yes. All of them were electric overhead in Baltimore. We did not have any underground or third rail in Baltimore. So what kind of a it does this job has held your attention all these years. I mean, what what kind of a fascination was it for you to be so involved in streetcars? Well, I rode my first streetcar alone when I was six years old. By the time I was 12, I had ridden every streetcar line in Baltimore, knew where they went, and I knew all parts of Baltimore. And so I guess it just evolved. I was interested in rail transit. I'm also a fan of railroads and subway systems and so forth, or any any rail operated vehicles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=322.11,434.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You took your first solo at when you were six? Yes. So even back then, there was obviously some kind of a fascination with streetcars and rails or what was it that you recall? The noise. The noise that it made? I don't really know. I guess you just become a Rail fan, I guess. Like some people become football fans and some people become racecar fans. I was a Rail fan, as they call it. And still are. And still am. Absolutely. And what's next? High speed rail. I'm going to ride the ice train to New York next Saturday. The ice train. That's the that's the inner city Express from Germany. The one that they're testing on Amtrak. Is that a high speed? That's a high speed. How fast you get is you going to get going? Well, on on Amtrak, it'll probably only go up to about 130, 140. In Germany, they go a lot faster than that because they have straighter track. So that should be a thrill. Yes. Was that the fastest you'll ever go on track? Probably. Although I might. I'm going to hope to go to Europe next year. And I. Not by. Not by rail. Not by rail, unfortunately. Well, I want to go to London and go through the new channel tunnel, which is by rail. So anyway, you can get through it. So some people would like to go to the Bahamas or whatever, lay on a beach, but you want to go where there's rails? Absolutely. About four years ago, another fella and I went over to East Germany and visited 15 cities that had trains, as they're called, over there just before the reunification of East and West Germany. So you really are a street car buff. Absolutely nothing better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=436.26,536.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if I asked you, you know, when you retire from your from your business, you have a printing business. When I ask you when you retire from a business, what are you going to do with your spare time? Probably come down here and volunteer on the school tours of the street Car museum, have lunch with your buddies on Wednesday, have lunch with the buddies on Wednesdays, and take some rail trips that I haven't been able to take because of the time constraint. You've been giving these tours now for a long time. Absolutely. You've been on TV, I mean, many times and thousands of you have talked to and and conveyed the charm of all these streetcars to thousands and thousands of young people over the years. Yes. Tell me about that. Well, when we have visitors at the museum, we have youngsters who have never even seen a street car. And we explain to them this is the way that your mother and father or grandmother and grandfather went to work and to school. And, you know, everybody didn't have automobiles back a few years ago. And the older people come down and the relives revives a memory for them. We had an elderly lady one time on one of our open cars, and she was crying. And I said, is everything all right? She says, Yes. She says, I just remember when my husband proposed to me on a Riverview car going to Riverview Park. Speaking of the park, you were telling Jean Downie about that the ride would have cost. I think you said $0.02. No, I think it was $0.07. It was. I was less than that. Well, but anyway, you talked about that car that went to Riverview Park. Did you ever go to a Riverview Park? Where were you? Park was gone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=538.44,635.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the 30s, when Western Electric built their plan at Point Breeze. But there was still Bay Shore Park. But you never got a chance to go to the river. I never had a chance to go to Riverview, unfortunately. It was it was sort of, I guess, the place to be back in the late 1800s and early 19 or 19 hundreds up into the 20s. You would park the family on the open car and go down to go down to Riverview Park. On the streetcar. On the streetcar? Sure. How else? All the of all the all the changes that we've had over the years here in Baltimore with our transit and, you know, the streetcars being replaced, woefully being replaced by busses, gasoline engines and that sort of thing or whatever. Now you're seeing a resurgence. You're seeing the tracks being laid in color. What do you think of that when you see the highway in favor of light rail? And I think we should have never gotten rid of streetcars. I think in some cases they could have been moved to a private right away where they were interfering with, quote, traffic, unquote. But many cities retain their streetcars. So we're getting ours back. And when the line gets to Hunter Valley, hopefully it will be a huge success. Right now, it's just moderate. The south end is hauling more than the north end, but I'm glad to see rail vehicles back because they're nonpolluting. They're comfortable. You can read your newspaper on the way to work or wherever you're going. Or you can't do that on a bus. So as far as you're concerned, if you can do this the rest of your life, it'll be wonderful. That's. That's right. Nothing better. Say that to me in your own words.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=637.17,744.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, when When I finally retire from business, I would. I will ride rail vehicles wherever and however I can, including volunteering at the museum for the students and the and the weekends. And of course, I have a pretty if a pretty reporter want to ride with you. You'll take her along. Absolutely. Put them in your own words. I would never turn down a pretty reporter on a on a ride on a streetcar. So. But again. And put this in your own words. And if you know and if the occasion arise where another pretty reporter want you to take a ride, you're there. Okay. And if another pretty reporter shows up, wants to take a ride and have an interview. I'm. Well, I'm here. I'm available. Now, you were born and raised in Baltimore. Absolutely. What are you. I was born and raised in what is generally called Roeland Park, but specifically it was called Emblem Park. That's an area between Charles Street and Newman PA Railroad and between Pinehurst Avenue and Friend School. So you spent you've spent your entire life here in the city except for your service time. All right. Except when I was in the Navy, I lived in Baltimore all my life. And you've been and you've been riding the streetcars almost all your life. I rode the last streetcar. I've been riding streetcars all my life, and I rode the last city car the last night they operated. Well, how they make you feel sad. But you knew you had this to come back to, right? No. At that time, we had no possibilities of a museum that came along four years later. And I was instrumental in working with the group to get the museum organized. And that's this has come quite a ways, hasn't it? Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=745.02,854.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thanks to Mayor Mick Sheldon. Why, we had this spot along Falls Road here for running our streetcars. How many children would you say how many visitors would you say had had passed through here since since you opened? That's hard to say, I would say. Yeah, right. Somewhere around 5 to 8000 a year. Plus our school tours that we have on Wednesdays. Some Wednesdays we have as many as 100 kids here for tours and lectures. 38,000 a year. You've been here 25 years. It's 8160. Teach at least. At least. Probably somewhere close to a quarter of a million youngsters. That's right. But yet we're still the best kept secret in Baltimore. People don't realize that Falls Road extends below Hampton down to Maryland Avenue, and that's where we're located. So if you got an itch to ride a streetcar, what do you do? Come to the Baltimore Street Car Museum any Sunday year round or Saturdays during the summer, or on our special Halloween or holiday trolley tours that we have? And who rings the bell? Who rings the bell? The conductor signals to the motorman to go in the mode of and rings his bell indicate he's moving. So you get the ringing. The bell. I get the ring. The bell. Together. Next time you turn God damn car out. You're nasty. What's that? You know. What they what they sign. There was China, but one year was at 4019. Well, December of 1945. Yeah, it was ever 45. Yeah. My goodness. China's version of a streetcar. Mr. Harrison is a crew member for you. Thank you, Mr. Huntsman. My pleasure. On the street. Now, let's get things straight here. When he's on the street, dining with his driver, sitting over, down on a locomotive is a sufficient driver for most locomotives drivers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=856.03,1006.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is only five. Or is it? Yeah. I gave him number one and number two. So Ed has has them. Okay. He's. When you say it is, you know, air next Thursday, next Thursday, 6:45 a.m.. God, it's the middle of the night. Tell me about it. The 50s. Yeah. And this was a snow plow used up into the 50s. Yeah. The it was it was clear. To the south side, that is. Was too long for South Street. I mean, you know, I mean, you can't read from there. Henry 231 Well. Just one person. Now the rear view cars of Donald Trump car. Single truck. These were used in the summertime or both in the summertime when we wanted to use them in winter was in New Haven, where we went to. Labor Day 1948 and what they did on Labor Day 1948. And that chain behind the wheel, behind the controls, behind the control primarily made it that we didn't have to steer it like you did. A boss. Three wheels. Yeah. They got. Yeah. Wheels on the street. Right. Okay. Find pictures of many of the same location. Do you have any of those photographs that you've taken down here? At home, Yeah. The thing is, that's where you used that single 100. What person would break. Well, listen, nobody can be either. Right. And beautiful at work. And that's one of the. Like. November 3rd, 1963. This was the last streetcar to ride in the city. And it all came down when the NFL came to an agreement Avenue, didn't it? York Road, Greenmount Avenue. Great. I was on it straight out to Frederick Road. And you were on that, right? No, I wasn't on that one. I was on the car. That $40 that there was in Pennsylvania stuff in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=1006.7,1219.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now you have some friends from. You can't spell. I know I can. I got a kid after his is three days. Whether he did or not, I don't know. But he signed in three days and nobody signed an agreement. Buster was one of us when we open the box. I know why he. My father's on the bottom. This is our cat city, right? And we have the bridge and how we can city. All right. He's heading east from her. Chromosomes are one to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't think this is the power of one of them to be positive 24 hours a day. Wonderful. Seriously, for a man like this, I had this I that out of this one of the ends of the world that I'm trying to get out of you. I can't wait to hear. Okay. Are you hearing. Are you still? What you need to know. Again. Barack. It was actually nice to meet somebody because he is just trying to make up for a mountain all the way back to a fourth time. Make sure you see this one. I'm happy. 30th anniversary. Burris And then that put a little on there Should have been back and run back or back or just this morning. Moving to another area in the bond boundary. Just pick up scrap metal and cast iron. These would have a leisurely you can just use an integrated test and they check it out on the marketing company was making signal core equipment for the wear thermal. So he goes in there and there's this enormous layout in this building. He says, Well, this is very good, you know. Now one of these is there was a room in the back where they're making all this stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898#t=1221.57,1377.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136886/file/253898/transcript/71695/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then I take back some sample. What you make this. Columns look up and he goes and they come back to the U.S. And in a few years, all these boilers crumbled up because it was made of this impure xenon oxides in there. So he writes a letter to with on your engine, but they're nothing satisfactory. The boilers are crumbling and they were stripped high quality. They sent new boilers. So that was just, you know, just like the bottom of this is, I think, supposed to be the Columbia on one of these. It says like a dining car coach. I pull one. Come to the light rail car. Here's a light rail. Look at him getting a smile. Let's look right at him. 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