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Is that really Ron? I mean, the pictures I've seen of him, is that really him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=18.68,33.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Uh -huh. Oh, yeah gosh, we're just so proud of the way that he looks right now. You know, you didn't see him before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=33.97,39.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He told me his friends had a word for him when he was younger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=43.45,47.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I can imagine, lumpy. We kind of thought that maybe he didn't know that they called him lumpy, but I think they really did behind his back. You know, actually I was looking for some pictures, and I guess it didn't take that many when he was kind of lumpy because it didn't want to really have to show them to him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=48.66,66.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you have a pet word for him? A pet name back in those days, I understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=69.56,73.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=75.01,75.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you ever call him the?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=78.62,79.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, you mean the Pillsbury Doughboy. Oh, yeah. Well, in fact, when he told me he was going to go into competition, it's like I just said, Ron, you know, please. You know, I don't want you to embarrass yourself, you know, because I knew that this is what was going to happen. I mean, there's no way that, you know, he was going to compete and, you know, without being frustrated. So I think it just surprised us all. We're just as proud as we can be of him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=81.06,106.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You're his mother. How do you think he looks?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=108.08,112.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Fantastic. Handsome. Gorgeous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=114.19,116.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the word I used. Oh, did you really? Uh -huh. Oh, did you really? Yeah, that's gorgeous. And, uh... Did he, as a child, were there any signs that he would ever attempt to do anything like this, as he got a little older?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=118.88,134.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no, actually, I think Ron was so shy, you know, and I guess kind of wimpy, you know, really no confidence in himself. You know, and to think that here, you know, this person who was like so shy could actually get up on stage and, you know, without passing out, you know, I think is a miracle in itself, you know, because, I mean, it's really given him confidence in himself, which is good. I mean, he just kind of laid back, I think, before. But maybe because he didn't take the pride in his body, you know, and now he does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=135.86,169.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me stop just one second, take one little... We'll more or less start from the top. As you know, Friday I stopped by to see Ron, and he told me we'd seen the old photos of him. Is this the same kid? No. No. I mean, this is your son Rod. 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You know, the little puny legs from originally, then to lumpy, you know, and now to this, this gorgeous person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=196.27,207.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You yourself had a pet name for him when he was a little younger, can you share that with us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=210.65,217.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Pillsbury Doughboy, I hate to kind of admit it, but I think he kind of knows it now. It's like after the fact you can kind of tell him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=219.499,226.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e and uh... and his friends used to call him","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=228.64,230.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e lumpy. It's sad what children do to other children. You know, it kind of destroys their confidence, I think, a little bit, so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=231.27,238.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they can actually ain't calling Morphe now with all those muscles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=240.42,243.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=243.25,243.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Lumps and lumps of muscles he's uh He's a delightful kid. I shouldn't say kid, he's 30 years old. He's a delightful young man. And he seems outgoing. He seems very competitive. How was he when he was younger?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=244.81,261.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e not outgoing at all. You know, he really was not. He was a very shy person. and I guess to say wimpy would kind of be, you know, the way I would describe him. Why? Wimpy. You know, very shy. 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You know, I, you know, my wildest dreams would never think that Ron would ever do anything like this. And not just in his younger years, I mean even as he was, you know, in his early 20s. You know, it wasn't until maybe like six years ago I guess that he just came over one day and he just said, you know, I've got to lose weight, I've got to do something. And I said, well Ron, that's good. He Well, I think I'm going to compete and I said now wait a minute Ron Losing weight is one thing, but you know, you can't compete. I don't want you to embarrass yourself. But that's the thing that he needed to do. That was the incentive. 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What do you prepare for him when he comes here to eat?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=351.72,368.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e See, Ron was here yesterday, brought his own food, you know, so there's nothing that you can give him. He'll drink a diet soda, you know, that's it, he just prepares all his own food. It's such dedication, you just can't imagine, you know, it's like no, no salt, no this, no that. The chicken can't have the skin on it, it has to be pulled. Everything tastes terrible, and Ronan loves to eat. 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You know, you throw the yolks away and you just beat up the whites.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=411.15,434.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e and you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=435.88,436.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e eight points. I mean I couldn't do it. You know I could not do it. I can remember when he first told us about the competition and then he went on it, did not go off this diet at all and went to this meet with him and it's like I mean I was really embarrassed because I thought, oh, I mean, well, I guess embarrassed is the wrong word. Yeah, you know, and it's like, you know, he looked absolutely gorgeous, but I knew there's no way this boy's going to win in all this work. He's going to be so disappointed. And then here, you know, they all get up on stage. Well, I never thought I could get nervous over a bodybuilding show, right? But you can when your son's in it. And 19 contestants came out. Well, that was it. I mean, it's like 19 people with Ron who's never competed before. The poor boy doesn't stand a chance. then all of a sudden they put the lights on. And when they put the lights on, I thought, oh my God, he looks gorgeous. I got so excited. Well, I mean, I never cheered and screamed so loud in all my life, you know, and he won. 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I'm afraid to give him the confidence and say, you know, yeah Ron, you really do have a chance, you know, because as a mother you don't want him to face any of those hurts. But I really do believe, yeah, he can. And maybe that's wrong. Maybe I should say, Ron, hey, you can do it, but it takes so much work and so much dedication that as a mother you just don't like to see them work that hard. 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Any idea at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=770.76,772.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=773.88,774.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e three years old. Okay, the one prior to this was approximately 18 months to 2 years, this is about 3 years old. 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It'll probably be two to the first. Next to two to the first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987#t=841.25,865.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144462/file/266987/transcript/77179/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And what time did you say? 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