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Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. And welcome to our Thanksgiving weekend square off. And tonight, we begin by talking about furloughs for prison inmates. Should there be furloughs for men and women in prison? Tom?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=67.38,79.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=80.4,80.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Quite an answer, Suzanne Wagner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=81.84,83.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=83.43,84.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You could elaborate more, supposedly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=85.44,86.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think there should be, but they should be more indiscriminate in issuing them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=87.0,91.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And the Reverend Peter Waldron.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=91.23,92.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Who where and when are the important questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=92.55,94.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about furloughs for prison inmates and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. Good evening, everyone. I'm Richard Chair, and the first thing we have to do is apologize for not being on the air last Saturday night at 730. I want to thank you for all the cards and for all of the letters. What happened was that they listed the USC UCLA game, ran late. The news ran at 730, and Squirrel did not make it to the air in unison. We say, boom. All right, now, let's. All right. Let's talk about furlough. Willie Horton, of course, became the focus of one of the presidential campaigns, Robert Angel, who killed two Montgomery County police officers and a juvenile back in the mid-seventies, was given three consecutive life sentences and had 11 furloughs. Those have been canceled, as have furloughs over this weekend for other men and women in prison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=94.62,150.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e When a person commits a crime that's severe enough to warrant a sentence in a prison. That sentence has to mean something. If we sentence a person to 25 years in prison, he belongs spending 25 years in prison. He doesn't belong going home on weekends to visit his children or to re acclimate himself to society. If he begins to make his rehabilitation at year 12, he can spend the next 13 years rehabilitating others in prison. We have the sentence, Realistically, if you think the guy can do it in eight years, you're sentenced to eight years, not to 25.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=151.69,182.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're exactly right. You're sounding a bit more conservative these days. I'm delighted to hear it. But you must. Yeah. Yeah. You must realize that if someone is getting ready to get out of prison after they have spent for a minor crime, that I think a furlough is neat and proper.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=183.34,198.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What minor crime are we talking? All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=198.82,200.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, we're not talking about rape or murder. Arson. If you give someone 30 years, I think, to prepare them to go back into the community at the end of 28 years or 29 years, it really wouldn't hurt to give a weekend. Do you think? Maybe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=201.25,211.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I think if you spend 30 years in jail. All right. He's he's probably had enough training in his psychological counseling groups in jail alone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=212.26,220.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There's hardly any training training.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=220.41,221.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e He can feel good about the prisoner recovery acclimating himself. I'm more worried about protecting society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=222.64,227.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What we have to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=228.13,228.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Somebody who required a 30 year jail term.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=228.94,230.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What we have to be concerned about furloughing people who have committed violent crimes. I don't think they should be furloughed. But there there is a group of people, perhaps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=230.95,240.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e White collar crimes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=241.36,241.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Could be a benefit from the furlough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=242.56,246.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Program while white collar criminals say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=246.43,248.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, a well, is a white collar criminal dangerous in a violent way to society?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=248.56,253.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's important that we consider the causes or the reasons for a furlough program to recall it. The whole idea came up because of prison overcrowding that we have a created an institution. Which person just perpetuates crime by remaining among criminals? If a person makes a decision within the prison system to go straight, to act right, to be right and do right, then in fact there should be consideration for this person's reentering the society at large. We cannot continue to perpetuate crime by keeping people who want to change and recognize the environment in which they learn about crime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=254.47,286.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Bring this up. First of all, Mr. Angell never, ever should have been paroled for anything else. He he murdered three people. He they really should have hooked him up to old Sparky and turned on the juice. But we don't do that in this state, unfortunately. So you have to be realistic. There are certain people who probably should be furloughed. They've committed nonviolent crimes or quasi violent crimes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=287.02,310.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What's a crazy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=311.5,311.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Violent crime might be an armed holdup or nobody is injured. And after after took after after 18 years or 13 years on a 15 year sentence, maybe you get a furlough. But once you've taken somebody's life, once you've committed violent rape or you've maimed someone, you get sentenced to life or two consecutive life sentences. That's it. BELL gone?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=312.85,332.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That's correct. I mean, one would be in favor of certainly capital punishment for many of these people who are going back into the streets. I believe the line needs to be drawn is you're suggesting violent crimes. Who's going to define what a violent crime is? Murder, certainly committing a crime with a weapon in which someone is killed. Yes, there are need. There indeed is a need.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=333.22,350.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There's a I think it's it's easy to define what a violent crime is. A violent crime is when someone does harm physically to someone else. Now, you talk about there are a number of people in prison who are extremely violent, but while they're in prison, they're model prisoners. Well, no, they they they play the game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=350.77,370.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=370.93,371.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Criminals are some of the greatest con artists in the world. Hey, man. So you have to take a look at the entire record of the person, the the psychological profile of the person. Before you even consider following choice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=372.04,384.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You're getting into something even deeper there. And that is the appropriateness of the sentences that we give people to begin with. You're what you're saying is that the real sentence is the sentences where people belong in jail are strictly for violent crime. Well, that is what we have found. We found that there are certain white collar crimes or nonviolent crimes that get society so enraged. And what people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=385.09,405.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Because society is enraged. Overall white collar crime. I think the test is this. Is the person person dangerous to society? Well, what the person if furlough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=405.56,418.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Really wanted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=419.5,419.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The person if furloughed, what he'd commit a violent act would.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=420.19,423.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Have no problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=424.12,424.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e With was a white collar criminal being be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=425.14,427.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e We have no way of knowing whether the person is going to commit another violent act if.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=428.14,431.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But there are. But are there there are indications a person who through the course of his his criminal career has committed violent crimes, he is more likely to continue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=432.28,443.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=444.79,445.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not right either. Jeffrey Levitt is a white collar crime. That's many, many people have suffered and died because of his white collar crime. Jeffrey Levitt should spend his entire sentence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=446.2,457.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Because he's in jail. Because. No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=457.66,459.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No, he.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=460.11,460.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Hasn't raised me. I'm sorry. It's I have I am not in rage. I didn't have money in old court. I'm not enraged at all. I feel very sorry for the people who have suffered the violence of passing away because of this. I mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=460.45,471.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Why was he.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=471.97,474.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Hold it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=475.3,475.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Hold. We're going to call in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=477.94,478.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If you don't mind. Can someone else say something?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=478.72,480.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's a whole different story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=481.36,482.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what we started talking about, Mr. Angel. It's part of the story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=483.08,485.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Totally different story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=486.16,486.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e They don't mind if I talk about Jarhead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=487.3,488.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They don't get Perla.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=489.04,489.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, let him talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=490.06,490.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Although Patuxent is as it's autonomous, it answers to no one, and it really shouldn't be. Patuxent does have a very low recidivism rate, around 15% compared to the state average of 47%. The point is this when you commit a triple murder, it shouldn't be a question of rehabilitation. It should be a question of punishment. First degree murder. You get punished the rest of your life. And there are certain people who may be helped by Patuxent, but no one who's committed three murders as a 17 year old boy walking down, I'm going to shoot him in the back to see what it's like and murdering two policemen because you would get arrested. You're away forever. He should have got the gas chamber.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=490.81,528.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The question is this What should be the criteria for furlough?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=528.85,531.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Not only what you're saying, what should be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=532.72,534.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=534.52,534.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you pay and who is going to take the responsibility for that person who's furloughed and that person will be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=535.16,539.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Monitored and the person should be held? It is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=540.1,542.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The leadership that makes that if the commission that makes the decision to furlough the prisoner, if the warden wants to take personal responsibility, a person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=542.68,550.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Who had committed serious crimes on furlough, as we know, they want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=550.63,554.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To take personal responsibility for that person who's furloughed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=554.5,557.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let you see what would happen. Do they person to take their word responsible?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=557.92,561.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=562.0,562.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, and Michael Michael and Michael Dukakis continually, until he was forced into a corner, defended the furlough of Willie Horton. Only late, very late stages. Was he forced.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=562.75,573.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Not practical, but a novel idea was to permit that person who furloughed the criminal to serve the balance of the term with the criminal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=573.85,580.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That is not practical and told.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=580.36,581.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That it's a good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=582.22,582.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Idea nor legal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=582.73,583.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, just now what? Let's see what Willie Horton did. He murdered a 17 year old boy. He he castrated him after he murdered him and he drained the blood out of him and stuffed him in a trashcan. All right, well, we should never, ever be up. No furlough, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=584.29,600.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Anything on the furlough program. Richard Sher should not fly on Willie Horton or think on whether it should sink on on the merits of the program. How successful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=600.25,611.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e We have to reexamine set and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=612.28,614.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And good criteria for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=614.89,616.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The summary we use to determine eligibility. Those people who have committed, as it were, violent crimes should in fact not be eligible. Those who in fact have committed or committed a white collar crime. We should allow a criteria to be established to let them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=617.14,630.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Back in just a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=630.49,631.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What was your point? I want to make a point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=631.99,633.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. We're going to take a look now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=742.07,742.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e At what happened after the presidential election of a few weeks ago. An article in The Washington Post last Sunday suggests that this country is more racially divided because of what happened during the presidential campaign. And names two people that it claims are at fault. President Reagan and Jesse Jackson. Reagan, as president, it claims, has left blacks feeling scorned and neglected and many whites feeling far less inclined or morally obliged to lend a helping hand to the black community. And Jesse Jackson, whose two campaigns the article claims, have left black Americans politically isolated as left wing Democrats. Is the country more racially divided?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=743.09,780.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No. I think that the country works together together better, better than it ever has. But the problem again, and I'm going to bring the media into this first of all, you just because it's in The Washington Post doesn't lend that a bit of credibility as far as African-Americans and the Reagan administration. Blacks economically have never done better than they've done in the last six years, and the statistics are available to prove that. Well, as far what let just let me say one other thing. As far as Jesse is concerned, Jesse is concerned about Jesse, and he has isolated his followers. And I don't know if he speaks for all black Americans. He has isolated them in the left wing of the Democrat Party, and he has alienated many white people and many Jewish people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=780.86,824.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e While I could comment on, first of all, there's a group of blacks much better off and than they have been in the past. And that that is that is the middle class.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=824.51,832.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But which is growing larger. And I'm personally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=833.27,835.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I have no problem with it. But there's still a large majority of black people, the poor, that aren't doing too well. Now, I'm not blaming it on Reagan's administration, but but the gap in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=835.49,847.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Their own needs. Jesse Jackson. In our nation, he has the ability to draw the nation's attention to problems in the inner city like no one else can do. Jesse Jackson is articulate. He represents a community within our nation, which in fact is in need of a spokesman. 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You can see that party right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=902.21,909.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Admit it, You're not. I am. How you're making Jesse Jackson speak. Sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=909.83,913.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I want poor people to be poor. Of course I don't. 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He has never met a communist and he didn't want to caste or capitalist that he didn't want to criticize. Jesse is now a multi-millionaire. He's done quite well in the Reagan years, and I don't think he's done a great deal for the poor. I think he's done a great deal for Jesse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=950.31,963.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Jesse Jackson has done a great deal more poor as he continues to work, even with a microcosm of his own program. To me, this program is doing good in Chicago. 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Are you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=977.15,987.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Smiling?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=987.11,987.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But ultimately, ultimately, I got to finish. Obviously, I do not think that Jesse Jackson is really helping black people. 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And I thought we were going to talk about Americans as Americans if we continue constantly to play to black Americans, white American, Jewish Americans, Chinese Americans, Hispanic Americans, we're never going to play to America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1008.71,1023.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But isn't that what the Democratic Party is always the been? 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To say was all Americans are open to join whatever groups they want to join today. To hear the politicians speak, that article that Richard referred to talked about the fact that Reagan never spoke to a black group and Jackson only spoke to black people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1039.13,1054.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That is true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1055.03,1055.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That isn't true. But we believe that because it's put out in the media, why don't politicians speak to Americans, black, white, anybody, Just speak to Americans. Let's stop making this an issue. They're poor people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1055.78,1069.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That's all I'm asking you to just and. 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What they have done is turned into a party of special interests catering to those in the liberal black agenda who want preferential treatment, the Harry Legge feminists who want to person the lifeboats and also to organize homosexuals. That's why they go out in middle America and get beat in every presidential election. 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Elevating the needs of our poor are unemployed and are hungry in this nation. I think the man needs to be commended for elevating the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1103.87,1111.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e So what is that going to do? 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We need a black leader that can get into the mainstream of America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1122.02,1128.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Who is that black way to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1128.65,1129.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Work, work in government to bring.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1129.46,1131.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e About voice?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1132.01,1132.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We do not need rhetoric. We do not do not voice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1133.18,1136.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What upsets me is that middle class class blacks are embarrassed by Jesse Jackson's ability to speak on behalf. No, we want to sit here. Oh, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1136.84,1145.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1145.87,1146.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. The man is not Jesse. There are problems with Fine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1147.01,1150.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Fine as White House always suggesting this problem. But what has he done? What power does he have to change the problem? The only thing Jesse Jackson is going through, his eloquence is spotlighting himself. 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Jesse, what's going to come out of it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1166.24,1177.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that is outright hogwash. Jesse, we all know that the problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1178.12,1181.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Are under.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1182.59,1182.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Control. Jesse Solution, however, is to create a giant bureaucracy by taking more of your money and creating more political jobs. Jesse is in favor of taking that dollar, bringing it to Washington, and then dropping a penny into the poor folks hands. And he's in favor of preferential treatment for minorities. Affirmative action, which is a racism with a fancy name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1182.77,1203.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Boyce put his finger on it. He said, we need a strong black leader. We need a strong political leader. We don't need a strong black leader or a strong white leader. We need some strong politician. We had two weak presidential candidates this time. 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We need politicians who can fill the pulse of America. Yes. Bring about that. That force to bring about change.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1232.06,1241.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1242.71,1242.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And yet not necessarily speaking to all of America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1243.25,1245.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm an idealist. 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You're right. Thanksgiving, the time to be thankful that we could all be together here every Saturday night and scream and yell and have a wonderful time. But this Thanksgiving holiday, a lot of the charities that collect food for the poor have not been able to do so well, because apparently the spirit of giving is not as great as it has been in the past. Any idea why that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1255.94,1274.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Five weeks ago Time magazine runs a cover story that raises a question in all of our minds where our money's going. I think the timing of the time article was misplaced and undermines my whole desire to give because I question now where the money's going, who's giving it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1275.08,1288.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that America, the American people are basically the most generous people in the world. And I think that through charity and if we know Peter brought up a very good point, if we know our dollars that we give to charity, go directly to the poor, we'd much rather do it that way. And if we really have this problem and we're all alerted to it, then I think we'll change and we'll do more in a charitable sense. 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All right. Here we go into our square off mailbag. Here's a letter from a new letter writer, Jim Jones in Catonsville, Maryland, who writes, As I watch your show on Maryland's gun ban, I was appalled by the remarks made by Phyllis Brotman. Since one or more than 49,000 Maryland citizens like myself who are members of the NRA, outsiders, then what about the true outsiders like Sarah Brady and the Reverend Jesse Jackson? And here's a new letter writer from Mrs. Smith of Baltimore who writes, I'm quite disillusioned with Boyce Mosley. BLOCK For years, I thought he could do no wrong. However, after watching Voice on Squirrel, I've changed my mind about him. He seems to be anti-everything that anyone says except Linda Chavez.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1363.58,1501.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e BOYCE Well, people have to realize that that I'm an independent thinker and I will not let any criticism interfere with my sovereignty of thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1502.85,1512.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So your comment was dismissed, and I don't think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1512.89,1514.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's my comment. They are cheers to be thankful that I am able to speak my mind regardless of whose toes I step.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1515.16,1522.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We would love to hear from you. And here is our address to send your letters right away to square off WG TV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. Two 1 to 1 one. We hope this continues to be a wonderful and safe Thanksgiving weekend for you and your family, and we'll look forward to seeing you again next Saturday night at 730. Once again, we welcome. Hi, everybody. Here's what's coming up in just a moment. On tonight's More Off, we're going to be talking about Willie Horton, Robert Angell, the whole idea of the concept of follows. Well, prison inmates have right going into this country racially. Join Kamar Boyce Mosley, Susanna Wagner, Peter Waldron, Channel 13 Squirrel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1522.36,1639.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Follows these important events. Thanks for joining us, Tom R, Suzanne Wagner and Peter Waldron on. We're off Saturday night at 730 on Channel three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721#t=1640.07,1670.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119002/file/223721/transcript/62931/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e With America more racially divided. Join Voice. Mosley Thomas, Suzanne Wagner, Peter Waldron on Square off tonight at 730 here on California TV. Furloughs for inmates. Saturday night at 730. America more racially divided. 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