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Who are you going to vote for? We've got the votes for. See you. It's 12 noon and this is City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie Hall, and I believe that his political agenda derives from three social movements civil rights, peace and populism, with the distinguishing touch of moralism on the subjects of drugs and self-responsibility. From Iowa to New Hampshire and down to what he calls the New South. Jesse Jackson has presented a worldview of clear cut villains and victims throughout his race to the presidency, with his consistent first and second place finishes in the race to the Democratic National Convention. Jackson has astounded everyone up on CAP, reclaiming Africa's fame through the life and work of Professor John Henry Clark. Hi, Harold Anthony here. And along with a review of School Daze, I'll feature the latest video from a lady whose second LP has catapulted her to certain stardom. Mickey Howard has the spotlight on today's entertainment dates. Join us as we discuss why the battle cry for Jesse Jackson has changed from run Jesse run to when Jesse wins. Jesse Jackson's presidential bid today on Cityline. Welcome to City Line. Today, we have decided to discuss the all important question Can Jesse Jackson win the presidency? That's the question on the mind of a lot of folks these days and more. The nomination. I would agree with that. I think given the fact that he has the number of delegates that he has and is receiving the popular vote he's received, I think come July in Atlanta, he will be near the nomination. He would need to 2000 and a little over 2000 votes. But I think going into the convention, he will have close to a thousand votes. So what does this mean? I mean, are we actually talking about America being ready for the Democratic Party, being ready to nominate a black as its standard bearer in 1988? Are we ready for this? Well, yeah, we're ready for this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=78.07,325.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're ready for this because over the past four years, Jackson has made it a point to communicate a message that goes beyond race. He's been spending time in Iowa dealing with the farmers that are facing close outs. He's been spending time with striking unionists. He was the only presidential candidate that showed up the Gay and Lesbian March on Washington last October. So I think what we see is what is articulated most profoundly in his development and role in the Rainbow Coalition, a desire to build a coalition that transcends race. And so I don't think that has to be the most critical question. I think we have seen Jackson have gone from a consummate outsider, an antagonist of 1984, to a consummate insider in 1988. In fact, he has played himself as the unify of the party. If you watch the various Democratic debates we've seen, he's been the peacemaker attempting to get the other candidates to really stop squabbling with each other. Do you think that's also because they refuse to pounce on him because of that whole issue of race and they're afraid that it may take them as being racist, Larry. Well, that is a possibility. But I think the basic thing is Jackson is shocking them with his results in the polls. And to me, he's the most known candidate. He's the only candidate in the race that you can strike up a conversation to anyone about. And I don't ask you who he is and his background because Jesse is a household word. If he does win the nomination. You mentioned that that the Democratic Party would have to encompass and support his candidacy. Is that something that you feel is possible? Is the Democratic Party that ready to follow the numbers? If that's what the numbers dictate? I don't think it's necessarily a matter of being ready.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=326.26,428.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think the Democratic Party has no choice except to embrace whoever the nominee is. Otherwise, we forfeit the White House. But there's a matter of enthusiasm and sincerity in that backing. That's true. And that was the case in 1980 when Jimmy Carter was renominated. There was no enthusiasm that year, the Kennedy delegates, of which I was a part of, really saw, I think, the first real split in the Democratic ranks. And so the enthusiasm was lacking. We learned that same lesson as Democrats in 1984 at the convention. And so I don't think we're prepared to repeat that mistake regardless of who the nominee is. I don't think the Democrats in this country have any choice but to rally behind that person and that person's candidacy. Larry, let let's ask you what's different about Jesse Jackson in 88 from 84? Well, I think he's he's well educated and experienced this time around. You know, in 84, he was just getting the first start. He made a lot of mistakes. But most of the mistakes really did not come from Jesse. It came from the media. It came from the people who said that Jesse could not win. When you're trying to fight a battle for president and you got a terrible fight, another battle against the media, it takes too much from you. I think what has happened now, the people have said that in 88 that we know Jesse can win. Jesse did well in 84. He shot a lot of people in 84. He made it to the convention where a lot of people did not. Now, in 88, this time of the election, he is way ahead, is more delegates. He has won more states, but he is doing some things that are a little bit different this time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=429.16,527.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Isn't his appeal. I wanted to say that he's well, he's running the campaign this time and not as social movement as it did in 1988 is not by the seat of the Pants campaign as well organized. He has issues and he put out issue papers, whereas last time around he was going from day to day on issue positions and you didn't know what was going to be the next day and what city or what state. I think it's much more organized and I think his test is due to the fact he brought in a guy named John Austin who went to this campaign manager for Richard Celeste, who was the governor of Ohio. And Austin has had some other kinds of experience as well. And so I think that's what we see. And plus, he has matured his tone down, his rhetoric and a lot of other things has happened. We're going to talk about that as well. The role of the media and some other issues that have to do with can Jesse Jackson win the Democratic nomination? We'll be back in just a moment. In Maryland, Morgan State, another state. Are you nervous of Maryland for your academic scholarship? Less than $30,000. Same for years. Maryland penitentiary, more than $120,000 jails. Must not be our choice over schools. We must choose teachers over jail wardens. I want choose Headstart and day care over jail care and welfare. The same high priorities. Half of that topic is whether or not Jesse Jackson can indeed win the Democratic presidential nomination. And, you know, we're still dealing with that issue. Is it a question that the media has attempted or continues to place in our minds? That is a question of whether or not he can win.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=527.65,710.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or is the media saying in some cases that Jesse can't win, but at the convention he can do this and that? What kind of role do you think the media is going to play as we get closer to the Democratic convention? And let's say that Jackson's strength increases? Can the medium make that difference? The media has tended to downplay Jesse's success and his win across the across the country. But as he wins, it becomes increasingly more difficult for them to deny him what he has done and the success of his candidacy. And they keep asking, what does he want? He wants to win and he is winning. And they cannot deny that that he's winning. He's doing very well in places that they never expected him to do well in. They were talking about him not really having a rainbow in 84, but he's proven them wrong where he's run significantly. Well, in areas where we only comprise two less than 2% of the population, for instance, Iowa, where he brought in 11% of the vote. Black people didn't do that. That was white people voting for. Which indeed shows the broad based support for Jesse Jackson and his. And I think it's very unfair for anyone to say that anyone is unelectable when you're running a presidential campaign. Anyone is electable is core to how you run your campaign. And basically, from the beginning in 84, it just jumped right on Jesse from the very beginning. What we've seen in 88 is done a different way now. Now they're saying when he wins Virginia, Georgia, Mississippi, Alaska, Puerto Rico will not hand in the papers when they're saying it on on TV. What we are hearing when he comes in second and third in certain places, they say he's doing well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=711.18,817.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Why are we hearing that the media has not decided to play it up? It's gotten. They decided to play it up. I would imagine what I've been seeing lately is they still believe that he's unelectable. Is that because of his race? Because he's because he's black? Racism is a major, major, major problem here. And the Democratic Party has said in the very beginning, if Jesse was white, he would be the nominee of 88. But then the answer comes back. If Jesse were white, he wouldn't be Jesse as we know him. That's right. Because his experiences have shaped Jesse. Right. One of the things I want to say about that is early on, we saw the media was suggesting that Jesse was unelectable before the primary season started. And I think that was an attempt to discourage people from voting for Jesse. And of course, when that didn't happen, we'll see that Jesse did go on. It had almost the same number of delegate votes in the caucus. He has more popular votes than the caucus is more first and second place finishes than the caucus. And seeing that that's this has happened, that people are still voting for Jesse. We've seen that the media has switched to. What does he want? They have assumed that he will not win, cannot win. And so they assume that question and they move to what does he want? And I think and I think that's we may not want to get into that, but I think that's another always in the media. And I think there's a disservice to what he's accomplished here. We don't want to make that assumption, but we do need to talk about that in a minute. But let me just ask as one more time on this issue, is it not a point that has to be pressed by the Jackson campaign? Is it not something it has to emphasize, in fact, that it that their candidate can win? Isn't that going to be an issue he's going to have to raise himself? Well, I think he always does raise an interesting thing about the media.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=817.68,919.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You win because of the media or in spite of the media. And Jesse Jackson has been winning in spite of the media. So he doesn't really allow that to detract him to take his eyes off of the prize. He realizes that he has other primaries to deal with, and every time he speaks, he makes a very clear point of the fact that it is not whether or not he can win, it's how much more he can win because he is already winning. And I think when you do that as a candidate, you don't get caught up in the the sort of dynamic that can take away from what you have to do. And Jesse Jackson has been very good at that, keeping his eyes on the prize and moving ahead. And so the question changed from can Jesse win to what does Jesse want? And I assume by the time we get to the convention, it will be another question relating to the large number of delegates that he walks in with. Now, he has waged one of the poorest campaigns of all of the candidates, and yet he still managed to manage to get his points across. And the issues. What issues has he stressed that even in the beginning, some of the other candidates were not even addressing, they were so busy bickering. What are the issues that Jesse has continued to stress throughout? Up for grabs, he's argued, I think, and I think all of us will agree based. Domestic issues that affect Americans. And I think that people are going to vote their pocketbook in November. And while we're all concerned about foreign affairs and what we're doing in the Middle East and what we're doing in this part of the world and in Central America, people are also concerned about what's happening at home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=919.5,1009.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's hurting at home. It's hurting those in the Northeast. It's hurting our farmers. It's hurting those who have been part of the young Upwardly mobile's on Wall Street. It's affecting those in the southwest where energy was the big hub of their economy. Jesse Jackson is the only candidate who is talking about issues that affect people. And I think people are going to vote their pocketbook in the fall. He's speaking to the human need, no question. I mean, he's talking about bringing our corporations home so that our people can be put to work. A lot of people are out of jobs. He's talking about a progressive housing program. Look at the numbers of homeless we have. He's just a take in the needs of the people. And the people are hearing exactly. After eight years of government irresponsibility. Jackson is articulating a message that says that the government has to be responsible for these human needs and is developing a program to address all of these issues. And I think that that's the most critical thing. Okay. Let's not not assume that he can win. Let's talk about what if he doesn't win the nomination at the convention? What are the sorts of things that he's going to be able to accomplish, given the strong delegate delegate backing that he has? But quite honestly, I've never bothered to consider that question because I assume he's going to win. I have to operate on a blind faith. So I may not be qualified to answer it. I'm sure he can't answer it either because he expects to win. So I'll defer. Okay. On that. Defer. We're going to take a break. You got to stay with us. We'll be back in a minute. Number one threat in the streets of America today drugs, cocaine, crack, heroin and guns.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=1009.82,1117.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We must stop the drugs and drive out the guns. Stop the drugs and drive out the guns and. Now, here's this week's community calendar. Hello, I'm Linda Young Fassett. 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What, this past summer, What did you do? I worked the polls for him. And how what kind of an experience was that for you? It's fun. Is that all? Thank you. Thank you. How about you? Do you think Jesse Jackson can win the election? Definitely so. I think he can win. Well, he has a lot of constituency. A lot of people are interested in what he has to say for all Americans, not just black Americans. And I think that he's proving himself in the polls. Okay. Okay. This is an informal poll that we're taking here. Again, the same question. Do you think he can win? I feel that he may even be able to win the Democratic nomination, but I don't know about his chances of winning the national election. And why do you have questions about that? Because I don't think that the are really the people in the United States are ready yet for a black person as a president. Okay. Let's let's have our guest respond to that particular question. What do you feel about that? Well, they they they said before that John Kennedy couldn't win because he was Catholic and he won and he beat Richard Nixon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=1395.58,1508.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think that as as long as you're running for a particular office that anyone can win and anything can happen. Do you feel that Jackson's message is getting across to everyone, all voters? I believe that he has reached a much broader constituency in the past four years and that he's not articulating the idea that government should be socially responsible to its people, which has been lacking during the Reagan regime. And I think that he's really doing a very good job in reaching the people. Okay. Let's see if we can get one more person here. Do you think that Jesse Jackson can win and she's shaking her head, Does it mean no or you're sorry I came to you? I think he has a fair chance of winning. I really can't. Both my opinions right now, because I have to look at the rest of the delegates that are going for President Jackson. But I think he has a fair chance of winning. So very, very good. Thank you for that. Let's get an exact tally of the delegates as of this taping, which is prior to the results of the Michigan primary. Well, the last figures I saw was 508 for Jackson, 526 for the caucus, but 362 for Gore. How many uncommitted? It's about 343 and about one 7 to 1 for Simon. Let me ask a question. How significant will will the bloc of uncommitted delegates be in Atlanta in July? If we fall into the situation that many of us anticipate, where there is no clear winner on the day of the convention and someone tends to be 100 or 200 votes short, then obviously the uncommitted become very crucial. The superdelegates, those who are members of Congress and governors of states, also become very crucial.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=1509.52,1624.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I would think falling short, maybe by 400 votes still would give both of those groups enough leverage to be able to pick the nominee of the party. What are the chances of a brokered convention? And for those who don't understand what that is, a brief explanation. A brokered convention is when, after the first roll call of states and the second roll call of states, usually you have no clear choice and no clear winner. And no one who's been able to command a substantial majority of the delegates voting. Sometimes it will happen on the first roll call of the states, at which time it's usually the party bosses, the Democratic leadership, members of Congress, state governors and others who will get together with a lot of uncommitted and with all the candidates involved and work out a situation or an arrangement whereby the others will agree to step back and one person will in fact get the nomination. But it does not have to be a candidate. It can be someone who has skipped the entire primary process. So like Mario Cuomo or like Sam Nunn of Georgia, either one of those would fit that role quite well. Let me ask now, maybe it's a moot question to even be asking you five people because of your backgrounds. But does Jesse Jackson's lack of elected experience trouble you at all? Not at all at all. That's a problem. You got to remember, George Washington hadn't been elected either, but he led our country. But isn't that something that people will consider, particularly as they get close to the point where they have this? This is one of the ways of of saying. He can't he can't win because he's never been elected before. But that doesn't matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=1625.23,1719.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, he's been elected to anything else before. None of them have ever been president before, so they all will be in on the job training. But he's never really held a so-called traditional job, has he? Well, see, we all have bias positions, obviously, because I really want to step out of that role and answer your question. Try to at least objectively. That does trouble a lot of people because he has not served in the legislative branch of government or the executive branch. To that extent, then I think individuals have to resolve in and of themselves and ask themselves are they prepared to put their hopes and trust in someone regardless of that? All of us here who work with the candidate feel that he will make the right decisions, that he's wise enough to build around him a cadre of individuals that will do the right things in this nation. But for some it is a problem, some matter, and some have suggested really it's a liability to be an elected official to run for that office. But I think that elected officials, people have the right to say that because I'm an elected official as well. But some have suggested that he should run for the Senate from South Carolina. First. I'll be mayor of Chicago or some places like that and and get some experience. But I think he has experience in dealing with a lot of issues. And that's the important thing, more so than some of the others who are there running. We're going to take another break because this is TV Land and we'll be back and we will continue our discussion. Bottom line, Marilyn, I'll tell you this. They seniors fighting for more security. You're right. But your patch is not big enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=1719.66,1896.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You fighting for more scholarships? You're right. But your patch is not big enough. Labor fighting for fat wages. You are right. But your patch is not big enough. Women fighting for cover. The worth. You're right. But your patch is not big enough. Gays and lesbians fighting for the right to be what you are. You're right. But your patch is not big enough. Farmers fighting for fair prices. Your right foot, your patch. It's not big enough, but they'll stop that. And let's turn to each other. Put our patches together. We're the people have the power to win. Stop drugs, save jobs. Stop drugs. Stay down. Welcome back to City Line and our discussion regarding the candidacy of Jesse Jackson. And we're still talking with our audience here, trying to get a sense of what questions they might have of the candidate. Do you have a question of a candidate? Some folks you might be able to answer that. I hate to break the enthusiasm for his presidency, but do you think that if Jesse doesn't win the presidency, that he would be satisfied with the vice presidency until he can run again? Well, that's a question a lot of people are going to ask. And then I'll just defer quickly to everyone else. Jesse, you said to me on a number of occasions night before last being the most recent, that he's not concerned with being the vice president. He's not concerned about a cabinet position. He's concerned about the direction of the Democratic Party and the direction of this nation. He made a very real and simple point that he has children who will soon have children when they are their own, and that he wants a world and certainly a nation that provides for them and allows them to be the sort of Americans that so many people died to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=1898.0,2015.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Larry, Julie, Julie. Okay. Well, I would say, contrary to the congressman, that I would hope that Jackson would consider, you know, if, of course, you know, we're not thinking in terms of that. But if things didn't go Jackson's way, that he would consider the vice presidency or a cabinet post primarily for the same reasons that he's been able to generate as much enthusiasm in taking part in the electoral process as he has by being a candidate. I think that he could enthuse a whole vast population of people out there that haven't been playing a role, haven't been seizing what can be theirs in terms of really altering the dynamics that are currently existing. And I think that in office he could have a tremendously positive effect that way. Okay. Let's have another question from the audience. My question is, how can we as voters have an effect on the superdelegates? We you know, we vote for delegates, but how do we get the superdelegates to to to nominate the candidate that we want? And explain the difference briefly and then answer the question. Okay. Anyone quickly. I don't think the superdelegates are on your way to affecting me right now. Superdelegates, a superdelegate, it's about about 645 superdelegates that members of Congress and other elected officials, member of the Democratic National Committee's. And this was put in really in 84, and they expanded the number for the 88 election. And it's an effort to get some of these supposedly wise heads back into the process. Okay. And so his question is, could you answer his question? Well, the people that we affect I mean, we assume that you've suggested, Jesse, since you're here, but how can we affect other people who may be borderline and that might maybe not have chosen or committed themselves? Yeah, This is a that's a find out who those superdelegates are And if they are your representatives or representatives of people that you know, then you begin to call the offices and express your view of what you would like to see them do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=2015.88,2132.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. Anyone else want to take that question? Julie? No. Well. Well, one of the things, too that's very important that we fail to realize is that we have put people in charge of our political life, so to speak. We had to make them accountable. We have to start calling folks and voicing our opinion. A lot of times we don't do that. We feel that the person is here and we're down here that can no longer be. We have to make phone calls, letters to these officials and put the word out. Another question I would want to make a comment first that the polls show that 30% of the country would not vote for a black person for president. And the point being that they never show in those polls how many of those people are registered Republican to begin with and how many are registered Democrat, and whether it would make a difference at all in a general election. And my question I'd also like to say that the Rainbow Coalition is an ongoing social movement that will continue past the electoral process and that we will be around for a long time. And my question really is, in terms of the superdelegates, how many have actually been contacted by the Jackson campaign? And is there a specific strategy by the campaign to constantly pressure these people and bringing them on board? Well. None have been contacted thus far because none have been officially appointed. The Democratic Steering Committee and the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the individual state organizations will begin that process in about two weeks here in the state of Maryland. It will be published. So we'll all know who the super delegates from the state will be. I know it'll be the governor, myself and the other members of Congress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=2134.14,2236.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But above and beyond that, to take your question one step further, there is an apparatus in place to begin a separate and distinct lobbying effort on behalf of each campaign to the various persons who will be the superdelegates. And I want to add to that by suggesting this mentioned two weeks. I think by April 19th or so, 235 of these superdelegates will be elected, the first 235, let's say. But the other thing that we have seen now with the Jackson campaign, at least with his campaign manager, he's put out the position that they feel that superdelegates should reflect the popular vote. We don't know where that will get, how far that would get in the process. All right. As we've been wanting, then, let me ask you to briefly, as briefly as possible, give me the answer to this question of definition. Jesse Jackson as president, what is he going to be like? I think it's going to be fantastic. I mean, I'm a little biased, but I think he'll be the the choice of the people. I think we can bring this country back for fair housing, putting people back to work, stop shipping our workers and our products off course to sea. So I feel good about that. A quick summation here, Kweisi. Well, I think you'd see a populous president, someone pretty much like an FDR bringing about new reforms and at the same time has an even handed approach to how we deal with our neighbors overseas. Quickly, he's going to be a president that respects people not just in the United States, but worldwide. I think he'll be a peace candidate of care and compassion and people president. He will be a president of the people. And once again, we'll feel like the White House belongs to the people and not to some outside review.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=2237.43,2328.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, great. We want to thank all of our guests for being here and sharing with us their insights and delightful discussion. And thank you for anyone coming up. Please stay with us. Sonya's camp, a conversation with noted historian John Henry Clarke. I myself are Sister Ruby. Still to come, a sneak peek at School Daze and the latest from Mickey Howard, whose first love is music. We'll share that love on today's edition of the Entertainment Page. Welcome back to Cityline. A very different newscast for us today. Last summer, I had an opportunity to take a momentous trip to the Nile Valley in Egypt. But the gentleman with me today has been there many times and many other places in Africa. He's professor emeritus at Hunter College at the City University of New York, a noted historian, John Henry Clarke. Good afternoon. Thanks for joining us. Thank you. So happy to see you, too. How did you get started in this work? We've read about you heard about you, but you've been on this road a long time. Well, I started as a Baptist Sunday school teacher, that similar Baptist church in Columbus, Georgia. And as a Baptist and a school teacher. And using the friend and son lessons, I couldn't locate African people in the lessons, in the lesson or in the biblical literature. And then as much as so much of the Bible unfolding in Africa, I begin to wonder what happened. So that started you on the road to look for them, huh? Yes. I had to find out what happened and not only read the literature, I had to travel to the land and see the people. And when I arrived in Africa, beginning of my studies. And have. When was this? When I began to go to Africa, about 1958.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=2329.14,2514.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"An average of three times a year. Since then, I found that the people were there. There wasn't a cut of the people in them. And the Bible on the other side, the school lessons. There's been some contradictions, some place and some temporary. And I began to understand that most great civilizations created around bodies of water, most great civilizations of river civilization. That's one of the things that came out in the conference. And what what is the relationship between Egypt or Kemet as a river civilization and the other rivers civilizations that you found in Africa? Egypt is the mother. What we call Egypt is the mother of the great civilizations, and that Egypt itself is merely the culmination of a series of great river civilization, and that the Nile River stretches 4000 miles into the body of Africa. And there are many people and cultures along that valley. So the Nile is not just in Egypt. The Nile is not just in Egypt. On a small portion of the Nile is in Egypt. Egypt is the lower part of the Nile where the Nile dumps into the Mediterranean. And the Nile as a river is a contradiction. Most river started in the north and flows to the south. This river starts in the south and flows to the north. So it starts inland in Africa. Inland. So the human traffic started the same way. Egypt became the beneficiary of the greatest body of human talent in the history of the world. All the people in nations along the valley would go in and out of Egypt, and there was marriage in and out of Egypt, making Egypt a mixture of the best in the valley. When the area to the north west began to dry up and become a desert.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=2515.64,2646.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A lot of those people gravitated toward another river or Egypt. And after the decline of Egypt, other civilizations developed in Africa. Well, how long was Egypt in its heyday? At least 5000 years. Egypt's greatest period of achievement occurred. Before the Odyssey In the early. Before Greece. Before Rome. Before the city states. So it's the same thing about Egypt occurred before the first European issue. I lived in a house that had a window. The foundation of Egypt was its spirituality because being a composite nation, you have to understand what I'm talking about now. Egypt was not a single nation culture wise. It was a mixture of a number of nations, such as name something that we might be familiar with today, people from what is now Uganda, but principally people from Ethiopia. Since the region has written an excellent chapter on this Egypt. Ethiopia's oldest daughter and from the Sudan, a country now marked as the Sudan was once part of Greater Ethiopia and was part of Nubia. So all these nations, these clusters of nations, fed coaches and personnel into Egypt. It is the cross-fertilization of all of these different all these different cultures that made Egypt so great. And incidentally, the people of Egypt never call their country Egypt. It's a Greek name, right? It's from Egypt, as they call it, to marry, meaning the sweet man and sort of kin, meaning the black land. I want to call it Islam. I want to tie in some of what you were saying, Egypt or commit or to marry being a composite civilization. Let's bring that to now and how you are bringing this information and have for 50 years or so to Africans in the diaspora. How has that been for you? I'm sure it must have been a struggle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=2647.65,2793.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is still a struggle because most people misguided who misinterpret a lot of things can't believe it. And I think the one book they misinterpret most is a book called The Bible. And I think people can get more out of the Bible if they read it correctly, read it in a historical, read the historical content, and also realize that the Bible is in part legend and folklore. But the legends and the folklore were meant to teach moral lessons. If the moral lesson is good and true, the story need not be true. It's difficult for people to understand, whereas we taking the stories literally, we take it the same as everybody. When the story was told to illustrate the truth and to illustrate morality. Yeah, I see. One more question for you. What do you think is the greatest obstacle? We have people of my generation in understanding African history and reclaiming Africa's fame. I think the biggest problem is a misunderstanding of the message of the mass media. And the decline in serious book reading. You're saying we watch too much television and we watch too much television and read too few books and observe too few documents. Undoubtedly not enough time to talk with John. Henry Clark was my guest today on News camp. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you. Professor Clarke is professor emeritus at Hunter in New York and noted author. I would strongly advise you pick up a couple of his books. That's it for news. Join us next week. Hi, Howard Anthony here with last year's Come and share my love. Miki Howard laid the foundation for a certain rise to stardom. The album yielded no less than three hit singles, thus establishing Miki as a major newcomer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=2794.38,2934.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A native of Chicago, Mickey was surrounded by music from the day she was born. Her parents sang with gospel groups. Mother with the caravan and her father with the Pilgrim Jubilees. It was only a matter of time before Micky herself started performing. As a little girl, she sang with Reverend James Cleveland's choir. Following her parents footsteps in the gospel arena. By the age of 16, Miki had made her professional debut as a lead vocalist for the group Side Effect. When Side Effect disbanded, Mickey went out on her own. One thing led to another, and soon she was an Atlantic recording artist. Now she's receiving recognition for her amazing talent as rhythm. The new said 1987 has already checked in as the year of Miki Howard. Now here she is with her latest count. Baby, be my. I said I don't need. I think. You know, we. There's no. I can. I really got to. See what's up. I'm just some guy in a down. And so when this. This. You got to know me. Get out. Oh, can talking. My. Doing so. So that was the sounds of one of the brightest new comers on the American music scene. Miki Howard with maybe mine on the local scene, Cole Porter's fabulously French Can-Can is coming to the Maurice Mechanic Theater, starring Broadway legend Chita Rivera and the high kicking Radio City Music Hall Rockettes. This sassy and spicy musical celebration features Mrs. Rivera as a Parisian cabaret owner and the Rockettes as the cancan dancers who scandalized and titillated turn of the century Paris. It's slightly naughty, very delicious, and full of this jubilant lust for life that inspired the spectacular Can-Can. This production will run from March 22nd through April 17th. For further information, call 625423.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=2935.56,3226.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh. Well, Spike Lee has done it again. With the release of his musical comedy School Daze, he has proven to an army of skeptics that the phenomenal success of his last production she's got to have it was no fluke. This time around, he takes a bite out of several social political issues and wades fearlessly into a subject that many producers and directors would treat as a theatrical hot potato. Intra racial discrimination. Using an all black cast, Spike examines problems that blacks are all too familiar with, as demonstrated in this clip, when two rival factions of the mythical Mission College get it on in a dispute over good hair versus bad hair. We ended up. Okay. I'm gonna say. Don't you wish you had hair like this? And the body? Then you got to see what it. If it's not a band on your head. I'm sure he'd break on his legs cause he got so much grease up there. Do you. Was that a wave that you. Where you guys. I love the idea. My. You're all about the money. That had only good. For one thing, if you get a look that it's great and you don't, you don't have to know that I'm going to try to do that. Still strong to make the team go. But you have to keep outside. Well, you know. Mine is. My school days will not go down in history as one of the greatest films of the eighties, nor is it a film that condescend to please the masses. But it manages to be highly entertaining and thought provoking without being too heavy handed. With this production, Lee hardly deserves recognition as Hollywood's newest, brightest and most innovative young talent. And finally, the 1968 graduating class of Forest Park High School is planning a 20th year reunion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326#t=3229.36,3394.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105559/file/206326/transcript/48959/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All classmates in Fall Beauty are urged to call 66961025630071 or 5282777. And before I leave you, I want to invite you back next week when our feature, the latest from the Pointer Sisters and a review of all Weathers actions. So till then, I'm Howard Anthony, hoping you all have a great week. Well, that wraps up another edition of City Line. We want to invite you to join us next week and we'll be joined by Baltimore jazz singer Ethel Ennis and her husband, Earl Arnett, to discuss the sale of their club, Ethel's place to Blues Alley and what that all entails. So if you'd like to be a member of our studio audience, give us a call now at 41, 13, 13. And I'd also like to wish Aileen of Ayling's Hair Focus and Melvin. Happy marriage today. I'm betty baddeley. I'm jackie hall. Have a good bye. Bye. 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