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You're retired now. As I say, I was forcibly retired at 65. I was in the last group of people that fell into that category where they had to retire at Hopkins. But I stayed on. none on the payroll, but acted for eight years as a consultant on the construction of a mud research building, our $22 million research building, and also was doing research down on the Chesapeake Bay. on things. Since then, in 1986, I got caught by what I had forgotten. gotten, I've never heard of, but that the NIH and the NSF will not make grants to emeritus faculty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=34.209,100.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you still, are you still teaching at all?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=102.99,105.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I lectured yesterday afternoon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=106.02,108.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So you are still involved or not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=110.22,112.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm still involved. I'm involved in that. I'm involved in, sort of, sometimes as a trouble solver of problems that come up. I've been around the university 45 years, and I know a lot of people more than the youngsters there do, so I can often times be of help. So, all right, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=112.28,136.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e back in the fifties uh... when w a a m had a uh... a very well it was a an award -winning show you know giants hopkins science","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=136.65,145.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I knew Lynn Poole very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=145.92,147.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You were involved. You did a whole show on what is an isotope.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=149.07,154.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you've seen that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=156.64,159.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you remember about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=160.56,161.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you remember about that? Well, I remember virtually everything, but do you want to know my most clear memory? I gave the show and the demonstration and I finished all my material and I was ready for the floor man to take over when he held up his hand with five fingers for five minutes to go and I had no material prepared at all for that. So I had to ad -lib for five minutes on this show. Well I didn't know what to do for a moment and I thought well the thing to do is Just review the salient points of the show. and it worked pretty well. He didn't know I had lived that. Is that right? Yeah. We had had a discussion before. He wanted me to write my lecture out and read it from a reader, things. Well, I never read a lecture in my life and I wasn't about to start it then, so I said, if I have to do that, I don't do the show. 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Certainly. I swallowed the kind of amount of material that was being used for the analysis of thyroid function, thyroid gain. There was no danger to that? No, not a few. Dosage is correct. 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I didn't get a special suit or coat or tie or anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=494.64,499.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Give you any makeup? No. No makeup? No makeup. No hairspray? No. Just went in there and did it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=500.54,507.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e just walked in and did it. Of course, we'd been through rehearsals on it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=507.61,512.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The studio crew, do you recall, I mean the caramen, certainly when you did these isotope things and swallowed this radio, they must have had a response on it. 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Sometimes as I was talking here, and this is one thing that did bug me a little, well, bothered me, and that is I was at the desk talking and the camera would come up to about this far And I wasn't supposed to be aware of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=527.56,556.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e pretty hard not to be aware of something. Very hard. I'm aware of that camera. And those cameras back then were a lot bigger than this little thing here. 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No one else could bail me out, you see. Lynn Poole realized that something had happened, I guess, romantarily. And he sort of signaled me, I'll take it over. And I signaled him back, no. And then when I went through, and I looked over at him and nodded, he then took it up. And that was a little sooner than he would have done, probably, if I'd had a full -going talk. But everything went fine, and the radioactive material was—no, the reason I wanted to do this show—Lynn asked me what was an isotope, and I told him I wanted to do it because the use of radioactive isotopes in medical research and in diagnosis of people is a very powerful tool that was just beginning to be used. and everyone thought, I don't want an atom bomb. This is terribly dangerous. I don't want any part of it. I don't even want to get it in the same place. So you proved that it was safe. I thought if I saw somebody who was knowledgeable about isotopes on screen, drink the thing, and you will remember on it, I held the beaker on the thing so it... demonstrated that this wasn't a glass of water, but I was saying it was, and then traced that. It would not relieve the fear that some people had of the need of taking a radioactive isotope as a tracer. Did they still do that? 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Telling people about isotopes and how they worked was another contribution, but I felt the reason I drank that thing was to emphasize that this wasn't a dangerous procedure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=707.94,729.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e and proving that yourself. There's no telling how many people you have put at ease and perhaps saved their lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=731.85,741.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e quite possibly. It's not something that I or anyone else really knows. 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I was in on several other shows, not on stage, but helped. The professor I did my doctorate work under came up with a man also from RCA and gave one of his shows on the television microscope, Arthur Parpar. And then there was a couple other things I was in there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=790.52,826.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Were you involved when the technicians made that little adapter where they could actually shoot through the micro script? It was the first time that had ever been done and it was done on that show. 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No, but I was glad to do it for Lynn Poole and for the university and for people, but I was particularly interested because I thought he was doing such a remarkable job on the science reveal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=884.85,903.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you think of this, you did something a little dangerous, what do you think about this Hopkins fella going up in space?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=904.45,912.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think he had sort of the same attitude I would have had. I've had no urge to go up into space, but if I did, I recognize every time I step into an airplane there is a chance of a crash, you know. But then every time you step off the curb, you have a chance, and to go around being scared all your life is no way to live. No way to do it. Time to go righ - Chewin' swords. You know, I like to do things that have a social, societal message as well as a thing. I figure this figure here, which I have called out of darkness, is that it is really stressing that the Afro -Americans in Africa are coming into modernism. times in society and also that their art is extremely fine. Benin has always, until the British went in and destroyed it, has always been a great, it was a great art center. So that's one of the pictures I think I might have in the show. This is a picture my mother's of an amaryllis, and she was really, as you know, a pretty good fighter. photographer of plants. She was a good photographer of everything except people. 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This one is the cathedral or church in England that is down near the English Channel. This is a pre -war picture, pre -World War II. I'll take that into the camera club. 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It's got, I think, very beautiful texture to it, and well, it's the sort of thing that she did. I ought to have her polar back. There are two different ones. 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Taken at a little port on the Damascotta River in Maine, back in the— Tell her where that was taken. Tell her again. This was taken on the shore of a little fishing village. on the Damascotta Peninsula and Damascotta River. 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I forget what you call that film at that time, but the – Kinescope. Kinescope. My face and all didn't show the consternation I was feeling. Again, I guess if you're a good lecturer, you can take almost anything in stride.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=1193.89,1225.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You'd have a lot of experience by that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=1225.97,1227.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068#t=1228.46,1228.96"}]},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267068/transcript/77253/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/077/253/original/trint_WJZ-FLDTP-008-015_ffv1_transcript.vtt?1741803781","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/077/253/original/trint_WJZ-FLDTP-008-015_ffv1_transcript.vtt?1741803781"}]}]},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267069","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - open-uri20250311-1605153-sbvhn.mp4"]},"duration":1239.252,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/069/small/open-uri20250311-1605153-sbvhn_1741729077.jpg?1741729078","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267069/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267069/content/2/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-marmia.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/267/069/original/open-uri20250311-1605153-sbvhn.mp4?1741729076","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":1239.252,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144512/file/267069","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[]}]}