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And tonight on Square Off, we ask the question, how do you feel President Reagan reacted during this Philippine crisis?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=74.6,83.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the president acted exactly the right way. He had the good sense to change his mind when it was necessary to do that. Madeline Murphy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=84.24,91.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I dragged him screaming and kicking to do the right thing into the right position.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=91.56,95.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Reverend Peter Waldron. A double -minded man is unstable in all his ways. And Bob Schoenberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=96.35,100.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It was his greatest foreign affairs achievement since being in office. We'll talk about the crisis in the Philippines and other subjects in the news tonight as we swirr off. All right, good evening everyone, just a moment, good evening, welcome to Square Off. It is Saturday night at 7 .30, I'm Richard Scherer, you're four hours away from Shakedown when Eddie Gottman and Madeleine Murphy will be dancing together, I'm just kidding. I've got to keep just one note. I'm just kidding. What did you just say? I'm wondering what I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=101.03,135.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e a double -minded man is, that Peter talked about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=135.98,138.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e A double -minded man is one who changes his mind in the midst of a decision. Here is a man who, in fact, had the data available to him to the threat of communism in the Philippines. And through the arm -twisting and the seduction of the State Department, his mind was changed. I believe it was unfair. Well, you're...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=137.31,156.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you're assuming that Kurozino is, Kino is backed by the communists. What I understand is exactly the opposite, that there is an insurgency in the Philippines that has existed since 1963. She has no part of it. She is not backed by it. The president acted correctly here. You know, when you see that it is necessary to adjust your position in order to accommodate Ask the Vice President. There's no part of it. She is not backed by it. In the interest of this country, he did just that, and for once, I think he did a wonderful job.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=155.82,184.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e This was his greatest foreign affairs achievement. He did not flip -flop at all. In 1983, when things were going bad there, he sent Senator Laxalt over there to talk to the president. As a result of that, the president decided that he — I'm talking about Marcos — decided to run for office again to show how strong he was, even though he didn't have to. Bob, we sent people over to watch the election. It wasn't fair. As a result of that, he sent Laxalt back, made a deal, and preserved democracy. made a deal and preserved democracy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=183.61,209.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, but I don't think that any of this that we're talking about hits the root of the problem. The people in the Philippines have been murdered worse than those in Argentina under Marco's regime. The people in the Philippines have had unemployment, poverty, and a number of things that the United States has put up with for hundreds of days and years or whatever you want, or many years. And because somebody comes in like Mrs. Aquino that everybody slurs as a housewife, immediately there's the idea of a communist threat. Nobody's talking about the fascist threat of the Marcos regime all over the country. The mark has been seen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=210.15,247.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We had a situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=248.93,249.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We had a situation there that could have been like Iran, okay? And in 1983, President Reagan took action. He sent Laxalt over there and he convinced Marcos to run for office again. and he has kept democracy in our area. Gentlemen, yes!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=249.06,265.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Excuse me, with all due respect, I can appreciate your communist sympathies, but lest we forget Mr. Batista in Cuba, lest we forget what Mr. Ortega did in Nicaragua, we're going to see a repeat of the same situation in the Philippines. I assure you in my own understanding of the events that we are going to see within less than a year, Mrs. Aquino is going to be eliminated. What could Reagan have done? Mr. Salvador Laurel will then take over the leadership. He is sympathetic to the communist people. He in fact brought his communist coalition into the Aquino leadership, and you'll understand as I do, that even within a year, the Philippines will be climbing again. You have been seducing. What could Mr. Salvatore do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=265.1,283.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You have been seduced again by the press.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=295.47,298.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e begin by the press who have been manipulated because of your own communist...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=297.5,300.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e because of your own communist sympathies. The question asked was, how has the president handled the situation? How could he have done any better? Good, I'm glad that you asked. The question is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=299.6,301.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell me. Number one, Mr. Marcos was not necessarily the best man for the office, but he was a better man than Mrs. Aquino. He would have lasted. We're the ones who contributed to his downfall and his defeat. Had we stayed out of it and mined our own businesses, it would not be volatile Had we stayed out of it and mined our own businesses, it would not be volatile He was a blast, kid!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=306.97,314.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e If we stayed in, the communist insurgency would have been worse and quicker. Now we have a shot at stemming it in the ground. We're not going to stem it in the ground. Do we stop it in the ground?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=321.63,330.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Did we stem it in Cuba? Did we stem it in those two places? We have not stemmed it anywhere. We have been set up and you're being manipulated by the press. Alright, order here. Calm down. We've not stemmed it anywhere. We have been set up and you're being manipulated by the press.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=330.97,338.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And the best person who is a communist sympathizer is the president of the United States. Oh, I bet you're a part of it. And I say this because he has allowed the kinds of conditions under which communism could flourish in many of these countries. How can you say that? and I say this. How can you say that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=339.879,354.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Pardon me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=355.56,355.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's an accusation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=356.18,356.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeline, how in the world could you possibly say that when he is the one that got Marcos to run prior to the expiration of his term? Father is streaming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=356.97,363.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you why, because he knew what a so -and -so Marcos was already. He knew that Marcos was skimming American funds that were going over there for his own personal benefit and for his wife's benefit. Yeah, but he has taken action. What? Belatedly. What did you want him to do? Go over and assassinate Marcos? No. As soon as he came into office. He had the power to keep funds out of that country as soon as they found out that those people were stealing the money from the people. He has done a terrific job. There's no new history. You know, it's typical. Take an action. What did you want him to do? Go over and assassinate Marcos?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=365.4,382.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's difficult to get into this discussion. Peter somehow or other has an inside track in knowing about the communists in the Philippines. I don't quite understand how he has that information. You may read the newspaper. I read the newspaper too. what I read. is that the, what I read, what I read, I don't even know you, you're insulting me. What I read has nothing to do, states that the communist influence in the Philippines is not. That's a cop. Me, Peter Walber and others. as strong as you're suggesting, and also what I see is that this was a great victory for democracy. There was a There was a popular uprising by the people against the Marcos regime, for all the reasons Madeleine said and others, and it was a popular election won by a person who is not a sympathizer of the communists. It was not backed by the communist influence. It was not backed by the communist implosives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=396.43,451.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Eddie, with all due respect, you probably don't read Beyond the Marxist Baltimore Sun. There are other newspapers being printed, which, in fact, clearly illustrate... I read the Wall Street Journal. You read the Wall Street Journal. Congratulations. Did you read the front page of the editorial? I read the editorial. Had you read the Washington Times? I read the editorial. Had you read the Los Angeles Times? Peter, Peter, Peter, Peter. Don't be so personal. Not only that. Now that I'm. Oh, boy. I read the Wall Street Journal. Have you read the Washington Times? Have you read the Los Angeles Times? Peter, Peter, Peter, Peter. Don't be so personal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=451.18,468.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Reverend, had we continued to back Barcos and not done the things that we have done, it would have been the same thing as happened in Iran. We continued to back the Shah too long, and look what happened. You know what happened there, okay? Well, the communists would have done what Ayatollah Khomeini did here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=469.29,485.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There's a great deal of difference between what happened in Nicaragua, for example, and what happened in the Philippines. The government that took over from the dictator in Nicaragua was the communist -backed government. Now we're seeing something entirely different in the Philippines, and I don't think there's any reason for such... I don't think for such an alarm on your part. Eddie, with all due respect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=485.849,507.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Eddie, if they didn't have communists to blame, they'd invent them. No, ma 'am. The other thing is that... Euripides said... Mrs. Aquino, Mrs. Aquino is the wife of the assassinated senator who came over there and was assassinated by Marcos. And that doesn't make her a great leader. But that doesn't make Marcos any danger. When I walk into a garage... No, mother, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What is that? Euripides said... And that doesn't make her a great leader.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=506.64,522.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e When I walk into a garage, it doesn't make me an automobile. Her walking into the Philippines does not make her a great leader. Let me remind you, sir, of the Sandinista coalition that was formed that Mr. Carter helped support. In fact, it was a coalition made up of democratic forces. Only at the time that the Sandinistas won, got $170 million in American aid, did Mr. Ortega systematically eliminate his opposition. We can look into Stalin, what he did. I don't want to look at Stalin. Calm down, hold it, hold it. Let me - let me - the show. 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Everybody's a little out of order, Madeline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=553.97,559.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's look at Mrs. Aquino, what she has to face now that she is president of that country, because on both sides of her are the same henchmen that she has in her government, in her cabinet right now, who have killed thousands of people, who have taken money, who have been corrupt. And this woman's going to have to walk a very, very careful line in order to develop any kind of government. Can I? Only kind of. Can I Peter with all","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=559.74,585.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All due respect. Hold on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=585.93,586.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me introduce some element of sanity in this. You know what the options were that the Filipino people faced and the world faced, and we faced because we have an interest in the Philippines, and that is if Marco had stayed in power, if he had stayed in the palace, there was going to be a war. There was going to be a bloodshed. There was going to be a civil war and as a result of that the communists would","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=587.74,609.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There was going to be a civil war, and as a result of that, the communists would have overtaken the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=606.33,611.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Go ahead. That's what I was reading my mind. But that's exactly the fact That's what you were going to say, I knew it. We did the right thing, the president acted very responsibly, much more so than Carter did, for example, in those days, but he acted responsibly because he saw the handwriting was on the wall. Someone said about Marcos getting out, he got out to save his skin, there was going to be a bloodbath, and it was going to be his blood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=611.78,634.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You can't compare this to Nicaragua. Karl Marx said, those who bring your history... Before you said Euripides, and you never got that quote out. Euripides said that those of us who don't... The show's getting too intellectual. ...who do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it. excuse me, Carl R. Don't Carl Marx said, if we can separate a people from their history, they'll be easily persuaded. We must always hold history into our mind when making decisions regarding the future. That's right. That's right. One more minute on this. One minute. The Cuban, is Cuba better off today because of Mr. Castro? You're looking at the wrong history. Is Mr. Otenga better, is Cuba is better off today? I didn't say. You just said of course. I wasn't answering that question. It is better off. You didn't even talk to the Cuban people. I was not answering that. Regarding the future There's one more minute on this. Is Cuba better off today because of Mr. Castro? You're looking at the wrong history. Cuba is better off today? I didn't say. You just said, of course. I wasn't answering that question. You insulted Cuban people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=634.06,667.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I was not answering the question that Cuba was better off. You said, of course. Not in response to you, please. Gentlemen, over here. Madeline and then Bob. Bye, gentlemen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=668.25,675.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And the other thing about Reagan, let's get back online with Reagan, the other thing about Reagan is the fact Hold it down. that he is going to allow maybe whatever happens with Marcos in this country, but he can't find any room for de Valle, and the same problems still exist. He is worried about the Haitian people having some kind of uprising and revolt as a result of accepting de Valle, but he is not worried about the Filipino people who are very upset about Marcos. And it's a racist situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=678.41,711.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What you don't seem to understand, Madeline, is a deal was made. Okay, the reason we have accepted Marcos was because that was the only way we were going to get him to resign. And it was a deal worth making. And as a result of that, we have a president there that will continue democracy and the communist threat that you're talking about is stemmed in the ground. President there that will continue democracy and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=708.63,725.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e With all due respect, with, again, history, Mr. Reagan did not create Baby Duck. Mr. Reagan did not create Mr. Marcos. They were there a long time before he came into office. But we supported them. What we need to understand is that it's our Congress, not our executive branch of government, that prevents intervention into the foreign state policy of sovereign nations. We need to remember that. We support it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=729.94,741.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e We got to remember","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=752.1,752.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We can't keep blaming the president.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=752.28,753.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And remember executive orders when we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=753.65,755.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When we come back, we will ask the question, should the blue laws be abolished? Should stores be open on Sunday? Bound to be a hot discussion if it's anything like this, and we'll be right back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=755.47,766.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=780.22,789.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you. It's a challenge, isn't it? It's a challenge. What are we supposed to do? Keep going with this thing. at this time, but I think she's trying to take over Denver County, away from punch. And she will for what? Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=797.76,839.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e After she divorced, he condescended on these conditions. He wanted that together. He came, and then all of a sudden, he broke up with me. We need you to make an offer after I was passed out in the office. Something to be disturbed about. One of those more imaginative moments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=844.59,866.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, one of the bills that is again being considered in the General Assembly in Annapolis, the Blue Law, should they be repealed, should stores be open on Sundays other than the five or six Sundays just before the Christmas holidays. Repeal them or not, Bob Scherr?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=881.46,894.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e definitely repeal them. The government has no right whatsoever to tell businesses when to open and when to close. And it's that simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=894.95,901.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. Now, let's understand the history of Blue Law. The purpose of blue laws was for the purpose of bringing God's people into a place to acknowledge him and to rest. When in fact we're going to spit in the face of God, I suggest we don't do it for economic motivation. If in fact we were to create an environmental day that we could conserve energy, you would in fact say, hey, that's a great idea, let's conserve energy. When in fact you become an economic model, you're no longer accepting that you're creating the likeness image of God. You become an economic man, your motivations are clear. And that is the definition of... Now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=902.22,924.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e May I, may I dare to disagree with you? You're welcome. The purpose of the Blue Law was not to honor God, was not to, was not to establish - I beg your pardon. You may beg my pardon, but I happen to know. establish the origin of the Blue Laws. The origin of the Blue Laws had to do with a day of rest. Unrelated to God, a day of rest. It was felt. It was felt. and the workers. Oh. You may not agree with it, but this is what the Supreme Court of the United States has stated was the purpose of the Blue Law. It was to provide a day of rest as a health measure. The government has an interest in protecting the health and welfare of its citizens, and providing a day of rest was a way to do that. Let me finish. Would you, Mom? There's a way to do that. I mean, it is a shame that people have to work on Sunday on their day of rest, whatever their day of rest, on Sunday is the day of rest for the majority of people. But that's part of our culture today. We have families where husband and wives work, and Sunday is the most convenient day to shop. It's unfortunate, but that's the way of life today. That's unfortunate, but that's the way of life today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=931.93,999.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, then close all the ballgames off. Amen. Close all the movies. Amen. Close everything else. Why make fish of one and fowl of the other? If you're going to have open day on Sunday for people to spend the dollar, which people profit off the dollar, and it's done with movies, it's done with sports, it's done with a whole lot of other things, grocery stores, why then do you make an exception of the clothing stores? Amen! Amen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=999.33,1002.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Number one, the Supreme Court, with all due respect, Eddie, is not the ultimate authority. The ultimate authority is the word of God. The Puritan Pilgrim ethic of the 17th century created an opportunity for blue laws to exist. Not in this country. Not in this country. Not in this country. He doesn't, he doesn't. He's not aware. He's not aware.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1024.129,1039.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not as long as we, not You're so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1033.39,1046.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The way you're, what you're saying is totally unconstitutional, okay? That is not right. It is. There's something called freedom of religion. There are some people that celebrate their Sabbath on Saturdays. Let me help you with that. Some people don't celebrate their Sabbath. There are some people that don't celebrate any Sabbath. Religion is irrelevant as far as the, as the Blue Laws are concerned, or should be. If I took the Sabbath... We did! There's something called - There are some people who don't celebrate a sabbath.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1045.77,1057.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If I took the second, your gentleman's understanding of our constitution is based upon Supreme Court's decisions mid -19th century law. And what is your understanding? But if we go back to the framers and their understanding, the man who wrote our constitution was a man named James Madison. but if we He stayed an additional 18 months at Princeton College for the very purpose of understanding Hebrew law. He brought the Hebrew law into the construction of the Constitution, and it was at the request of George Mason that the First Amendment was written about religion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1063.07,1089.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, let's talk about the separation of church and state, and I'm all for it. the separation of church and state. And I'm all for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1086.95,1094.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't filibuster, hold on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1094.8,1095.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And I believe that if we are going to have a democratic society, where there are atheists, where there are all, it's a pluralistic society, where there are all kinds of religions, then we don't hold up Christianity as the general arbiter, because then we become like the Spanish Inquisition. And our only, only, only, our only people who can interpret the Bible are you fundamental Right, right. Look, the Marxist model. I'm not quite sure where you're coming from, Reverend. Without","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1095.37,1111.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We start with democracies, we then go to socialism, we go to communism. Your liens are beyond a republic. 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When you feel good about it, you feel good about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1129.669,1141.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e When governments are ordained of God, then in fact God ordained governments must be obedient to a higher law, which requires that we exercise a day of Sabbath. You know, you forget where you are. I must forget where you are. Hold on. You know, you forget where you are. I think he's on the cable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1140.33,1153.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think he's on the cable network with one of the fundamentalist preachers. This is square off. You understand? We're trying to establish some kind of sensible dialog here. sensible dialog. You know, the fact of religion is totally, but totally irrelevant to the Blue Laws. You go down to Annapolis and hear the debate in the General Assembly. There will not be any discussion of religion. Religion plays no part in the issue of whether or not stores should be open or closed on Sundays. 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And the reason is not, as Eddie says, not because of any religious reason, but because of a day of rest.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1180.84,1194.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And they and and for unfair competition with the smaller stores who will have to still pay wages to the people if they open up their stores in competition with the larger stores, and they feel that the blue laws are all right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1194.9,1206.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Unless it is a nation whose God is Lord, when in fact we begin the practice of rejecting worship and honoring of the sovereign God, we place ourselves into a position where we're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1206.56,1216.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute, wait a minute, let me just say this. I don't go to church on Sunday. Go to church. Excuse me. Let her talk. I mean, what you're talking about is fine for your people, who happen to be the majority of people in the world and in this country, but I don't go to church on Sunday. So why can't I go shopping? If you say that it all relates to God, why can't I go shopping on Sunday? Because I don't honor God on Sunday. I honor God on every day, but my religion doesn't say that I should take Sunday as a day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1217.78,1247.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e of rest. Eddie, we're not declaring Sunday to be the Sabbath, we're declaring it to be a day of rest. During that day of rest, it becomes an opportunity for us to worship God. Wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1247.03,1255.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What about people who don't work on Sunday and don't work on Monday? Shame on them. Is that a day of rest? Shame on them. Your argument is all over the place. Your argument is all over the place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1255.45,1263.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Your argument is all over the field. At first you come off and say that it is God's day, and you make this strictly a religious argument, and now you're talking about it as a day of rest, and you're being totally inconsistent. Let's rehearse. Running out of time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1261.15,1274.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, let me rehearse what I did say. A, it is a day of rest for the purpose of honoring God. So it's religious. That's your reason, right? It is an opportunity to rest for the purpose of honoring God. Well, it can't be. It has a religious base.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1274.35,1284.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Can't people honor God seven days out of the week? They should. Well, that's the point. Can't they honor God?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1283.83,1289.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Can't they honor God driving to the shopping center?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1288.84,1290.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Can't they honor God when they look at me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1291.12,1293.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e For 70 years, the people of Israel rejected the Sabbath as a consequence of that particular violation that were placed into a place of bondage in Babylon. You're safe, son. is the day of religion. I'm saying that Sunday should be a day of rest when all businesses close and the opportunity to worship God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1292.98,1311.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you should choose their time and I have the free will to choose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1310.44,1315.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. And I have the free will to choose. Have you noticed that you don't have a lot of support of this? Sir, do you realize I'd probably send to the table where we're more humanistic than Christian? 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You don't have a right to do that, the government doesn't have a right. That's right. You have the right to do that. Talk about the Congress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1330.89,1333.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The government doesn't have the right to do that whatsoever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1333.62,1335.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And the government doesn't do that and specifically says we don't have any, we're not saying do this or don't do this because of a religious reason, we're saying don't do this or do this for other reasons. And the consequence of a nation that can do this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1335.6,1345.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And the consequence of a nation that continues to reject God is that we continue to reject We're not rejecting it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1344.04,1348.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e As Madeline has said, this is not a religious argument. Whether to repeal or not to repeal blue laws have nothing to do with religion. We'll be back after this. Thank you, God. you're preaching to the choir","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1351.169,1351.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, our mad bag runneth over. In reference to last week's discussion of banding rock music, Michael Swanson of Baltimore Rites, it frightens me to see someone as ignorant as John Lofton. The sad thing about it is that he sincerely believes everything he says and expects others to believe him also. Listening to him is like taking a course in illiteracy. Louise Gore of Baltimore Rites to square off. What a bore Alan Christian is. He's against all religion and will uphold any form of entertainment that lacks morals. Here is a letter from an anonymous rocker from Frostburg, Maryland, who writes, okay, I've really had it this time. I'm sick of these stupid rock censorship crusades. I'm 15 years old and I think that heavy metal is great. 15 year old Patrick Nugent of Edgewood writes, I've been listening to music all my life and it has yet to turn me into an alcoholic, a drug addict or sex maniac. Take a close look at country music. If you're going to ruin kids' fun, you should ruin everyone else's fun too. And finally, Kevin Estes of Baltimore writes, most kids are probably too busy dancing to the beat than paying attention to the lyrics. To those who seek to censor the music, remember, the music is the effect, not the cause of any social ills. If the music were banned or censored, would its absence clear up the ills? It is accused of fostering. Write to us at this address about these people. Square off, WJZ TV, Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland, 212. and join us again next Saturday night at 7 .30 when we cool the set down and once again, we square off. Good night. So long. Once again, we square off, good night. One of the more controversial subjects in the news this week, drug testing in the workplace. And tonight on Square Off we ask the question, what would you do if your boss wanted to test you for illegal drugs? Arnold Weiner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1463.09,1663.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e I always have trouble giving those specimens to doctors. I think I'd be late for work every day. Tony King.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1664.23,1669.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Hey, I work for the Catholics. Grapes are our vice, so I don't think it's an issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1669.74,1673.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e and the Reverend St. George Cross. Well, I think that only the junkies have to fare being tested. Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1673.61,1679.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I want to make sure my boss is going to take the same test, Richard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1680.19,1683.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about drug testing in the workplace and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1683.73,1689.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1694.939,1697.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Good evening, everyone. It is Saturday night at 7 .30. We'd like to begin. This is the first time that Arnold and Tony have actually been on our brand new, highly complimented set. Take a look around. What do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1699.36,1709.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e It's wonderful. I kind of miss the old club cellar though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1709.94,1712.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we sold that. As you know. Tony, good to have you back. You know I don't know where you've been. We'll have you back. How do you like the set?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1712.3,1718.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e It's interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1719.07,1719.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It is, it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1721.04,1721.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm a little more traditional. I like the dirty grapes and the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1721.64,1724.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, while you're talking about grapes and wine, of course, they're cracking down on drugs in the workplace, in sports. We're talking about grapes and wine, of course. in the military, in government, and in the private sector too. What's your reaction to it? If your boss came up to you today and said, Tony, would you submit to a urinalysis? Let's see if you're doing some illegal drugs. What would you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1725.7,1742.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I think I'd be very concerned about that. It's too much police state. I really don't like it at all. I think there are certain instances when it's appropriate. I don't want my air traffic controllers on drugs. You know, I don't want a lot of people on drugs, but this wholesale kind of thing is very terrifying. But if it's good enough for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1742.46,1760.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e good enough for the air traffic control it should be good enough for you. You know I think that I for instance don't like people looking into my bags I don't like going through metal detectors but every time I go get on a plane I have to be tested to see if I have a gun. Now if it's okay for them to do that for me I think that an employer has the right to know if he's hiring junkies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1759.77,1783.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, but St. George, here's a real problem. We have an athlete right now at the Naval Academy who has taken a lie detector test and has passed the lie detector test saying that he has never used cocaine. But the specimen test says he did use cocaine and his career in the Navy is threatened. Isolated case. Did they mix up the specimen? Isolated case. Did they? Well, isolated case. Yeah, but it's a lie. It's an isolated case. Now that they mixed it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1784.11,1803.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's a case that can affect the life of a young man. And so when it is looked at much closely, they will find out that they were wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1807.96,1816.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but it's an isolated case now, St. George, and you can tend to those isolated cases. Yeah, but it's a nice. because we're not testing millions of people. But this commission has recommended that every single federal employee be tested. That's almost three million people. Every employee of a government contractor be tested and that all private employees, private employers be encouraged to start testing. What does that mean? What that means is. I don't know who you are. that we're coming up with a response disproportionate to the threat and secondly we're going to build in if we ever did something like that a testing program program. That would be unmanageable. If the Internal Revenue Service can't keep the tax returns straight, how in the world is government gonna keep the urine test? Arno, Arno, you told it one at a time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1817.18,1862.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e As an attorney, Arnold, you should really like this because the potential for suits just has to be absolutely astronomical. The Center for Disease Control said in some of the testing, there was a 66 % false negative or false positive rather. So can you imagine people's careers? So, can you imagine? 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Tony, the fact is... Well, we teased about that, but that's... The fact is that... What was there is...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1886.62,1890.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Tony, the fact is that drugs, and that includes alcohol also, are now costing us in the marketplace close to 80 billion dollars in non -productivity by workers, and who pays for that? The consumer. You and I. St. George, I think I don't think anybody","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1887.38,1907.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e George, I don't think anybody would stand up for abuse in the marketplace. 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They didn't write about the whole kind of problem you are enforcing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1923.8,1939.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Tony, Tony, you are talking, we're talking about reports that came out a couple of years ago. We're talking about reports that came out a couple of years ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1939.27,1943.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you're saying, where were they?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1944.24,1945.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e you're using the very same argument that all of these ACLU types use about civil rights and nobody has a civil right to do a civil wrong. Yeah, but that's true, that's true, but St. George. And illegal drugs are wrong, they're breaking the law, and an employee needs to do it. But St. George, let's take a look at something. 2 %","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1945.45,1956.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not arguing with that. I'm not arguing with that. Oh, okay. Okay, I mean, drugs are probably one of the most serious problems in this society. Yeah, but you can't over -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1963.019,1969.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but you can't overreact. St. George, you're in a neighborhood. One person commits a burglary. Does that mean that the police should go and search through every single house in the neighborhood? Of course not. You wouldn't want them searching in your house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1968.53,1981.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I tell you why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1982.2,1982.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's the problem with indiscriminate invasion of rights. problem with indiscriminate invasion of rights.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1982.22,1987.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I tell you what, drugs has done. I've had my house broken into, I've had my wife mugged in front of my seven -year -old daughter, I've had my car broken into three times, and it's all, I'm sure, because of drugs. Well, now, but St. George, there is a problem here that the government... And I don't want somebody who's a junkie working for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=1987.52,2004.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, no, but St. George, there is a problem here that the government is not addressing. And that is that drug use is pervasive in our society. Do you know, are you aware, that private companies are testing for drugs? Are you aware that the allied corporation in New Jersey tested its employees for drugs and found... in the eighteen to twenty four -year -old age group that one half of its employees tested positive for drugs. For what? For which drugs? For the illegal drugs that we're talking about. For marijuana. For marijuana in particular. And then do you wonder why we have... So the government says that you solve the problem by testing people's urine. That isn't how you solve the drug problem. the legal drugs that we're talking about. 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Usually, if a man knows that his job is in jeopardy, he might consider giving up that illegal thing that he's doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2043.78,2054.679"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e St. George, I can't believe that you believe that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2053.889,2055.989"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Anybody who uses drugs is an inept and an indecent person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2055.98,2061.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, St. George, we have people in this country who take drugs. Now St. George. as a matter of their religious practice. The Rastafarians in the United States, you're aware of them as part of their church service. St. George, they smoke marijuana during their service. You're aware of them, as part of their church service in St. George, they smoke marijuana","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2061.73,2074.969"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e during the service, but they do it and you can't deny that they do it. And so therefore you're going to say that the tail must wag the dog. They do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2075.53,2079.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm saying to you, St. George, that it's not as simple as you would make it. It's not white hats and black hats. No, I'm not saying it's simple. These guys in the middle of their church service are smoking pot. Are you going to go into their church and arrest them? No, I'm these guys in the middle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2082.78,2089.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Have you ever been to their church and seen them do it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2093.429,2095.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I know, it's bad enough for me when I walk by and smell it dripping outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2095.06,2098.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not enough for me when I walk by and smell it dripping outside. Stop talking fairy tales. The truth is that there are men and women today who are afraid to go to church and afraid to do all these kinds of things of putting up bars on their doors and bars on And so testing their urine is going to solve the problem. No, because the main reason for this is drugs and crime. All right. Drugs and guns. People are scared the genesis of all these problems is drugs. Is it cancer? And so, testing their urine's gonna...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2095.86,2111.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Simplistic answers to complex problems. Back in just a moment. We'll be back in just a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2120.58,2124.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2235.6,2237.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, now let's turn our attention from your analyzes on the job to Ferdinand Marcos who is now in Hawaii and many people suggest that perhaps he got away with not millions but perhaps billions of dollars. Does the United States have a responsibility to the Filipino people, in your opinion, to get that money back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2238.45,2257.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely, absolutely. But I just wonder what kind of deals were cut to get him out of there and avert civil war. So I think this is going to be very interesting to see how it's played out. I don't think we have all the facts yet. And we certainly don't know all of the assets yet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2259.109,2269.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e It's interesting that he wants to keep the yacht, you know. I think this is not...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2270.74,2274.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's only 357 feet long.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2274.48,2276.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but I think he obviously ripped the country off, and he should give it back. I think he's going to be lived. Just the mere fact that he is Marcos is going to make him high on the party circuit, and they're going to have him all around. He's going to get nice speaking engagements. We might see him around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2276.76,2294.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e High on who's party, sir?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2295.03,2296.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e the colleges. Oh, well, look, the Watergate people were high on the party and the lecture circuit, so you don't know what's gonna happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2295.35,2304.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Book followed by a movie, but let me tell you something the real hero in this story is the mayor of Honolulu a Transplanted Connecticut Yankee who was called by the administration and they said would you provide police protection for Marcos? He said no said four doors down from me is Sigmund Reid and he doesn't have police protection You want to hire the cops you hire off -duty cops Marcos then calls the mayor of Honolulu and says provide police protection He said you've got to be kidding You want to hire cops, you hire off -duty cops. Hooray for the Connecticut Yankee in Honolulu. Well, they've got them hidden away. I'm second that. Come here for a second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2304.16,2341.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e They've got him hidden away at Hickam Air Force Base, and I happened to have been there back in the 60s. And I'm sure he's pretty well hidden away and pretty well taken care of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2339.16,2348.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, this whole story, though, is great American theater. There are going to be great heroes like the Connecticut Yankee, great villains like General Veer, because apparently in those crates of stuff that they grabbed from Marcos are records that they think will show a huge payoff to General Veer in a $100 million government contract where there were incredible kickbacks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2348.47,2372.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but Arnold, you're missing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2372.74,2373.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e You've got Melvin Belli in the act now, Melvin Belli is suing Marcos for a whole bunch of alleged victims. It's, you know, he wants to do his Boat Paul routine all over again. It's fabulous stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2372.96,2383.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but Arnold, you're missing a real point here, and that is that when we flew Marcos out of his capital city, why didn't somebody in our government notice that the bags were loaded with jewels, antiques, and money? Because when they started counting, they stopped counting at three million dollars in cash. You mean we're oblivious to these things, that he's just a good buddy, and we load up the national treasure of a country, and we move out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2383.86,2408.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e No, basically, I think under those kind of circumstances, civil war was imminent. Civil war was imminent. And I think these are the kinds of things that are going to take a long sort of time. I don't agree. I think Marcos...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2408.9,2419.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't agree. I think Marcos was a stone -cold loser. Tony, he tried to call his Air Force, he said attack, bomb the rebels, and the Air Force said, you've got to be kidding me. I'm not saying it was an even -sager order. You're right. What civil war? You're right. Tony, he tried to call his Air Force, he said... Man, there's the Americans out there. What civil war? You're right, Alan. You're right, Alan. You're right, Alan. You're right, Alan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2418.44,2431.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e That doesn't have civil war here. What I think happened was that you had a very fast fluid situation. A lot of signals got crossed. The brigadier general who was in charge of getting him out and getting him to Guam thought that it was his instructions to let him take anything he wanted, just get him out of the country. He tried to do that. Once they got to Guam, they realized there was a lot of loot. The people in Guam didn't know what to do. They bucked it on until he got to Honolulu, and hooray! for the customs guys. They're the heroes in all of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2432.73,2464.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e They're the heroes in all of this. It's obvious that the man was stealing and I think he ought to be treated in that way. As a thief. Yeah, as a thief. No, I. Yeah. but uh... how do you treat him then as a thief i think that what he has stolen should be given back or the value of it should be given back to the philippine people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2462.67,2480.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What price does the thief pay as thieves in society pay if you're saying you should be treated as a thief? 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Suffered enough?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2487.779,2498.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e Suffered enough, suffered. When he leaves the palace, he leaves a kidney machine, he leaves oxygen tanks, his wife leaves 54 pair of shoes in the closet. They leave enough wealth behind to keep most people happy. And when he gets to Honolulu, he buys a house 450 feet above sea level with a nice view of the harbor, suffered enough. St. George, you've gotta be kidding me. Yeah, but Alan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2497.8,2523.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan, Alan, when I heard that they left behind the oxygen machine, but took her... And the kidney machine! The dialysis machine! But took her jewels, I decided she did the packing. machine, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2522.91,2530.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I like that. I like that, Arnold. I like that. That's good. That's good, that's good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2533.58,2536.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e She left 54 pair of shoes, Arnold. She couldn't wear one pair of the pair. She had that fame. She couldn't have done all the packing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2536.39,2540.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e She had that famous Marcos diamond. It came with a curse. The curse was Marcos.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2541.11,2544.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's talk about Kurt Voltheim, if we can. Here is the former Secretary General of the United Nations, who has now admitted that he was a young intelligence officer and a linguist in certain units implicated in brutal atrocities against Yugoslav civilians and Jewish people in 1942 and 1943, involved in the mass deportations of Jews to death camps from Greece in 1944. A general he served was executed for war crimes two years after the war, and Voltheim now admits or says that he knew nothing of these things, but now admits having been there when they occurred. This has certainly sparked a lot of conversation this week. What do you think? significant here was a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2546.34,2587.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Here was a major public figure who writes an autobiography in which he claims falsely that in 1941 he suffered a war wound and just retired quietly to civilian life. And here it turns out he's in the brown shirts, he's on the personal staff of this general who was in charge of all these atrocities, and he says he had nothing to do with it and didn't know about it. The problem is not whether he really did it or not. Because after 40 years, you can't tell. But the one thing you know is you can't believe this man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2586.14,2620.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the most interesting side lights of this whole story. one of the most A Bethesda publisher bought the rights to his memoirs for the United States and in the middle of this last week announced they may have to dump the rights because the book may not be a book that can be sold in the United States. Simon Wiesenthal says that surely he was not a major class Nazi, but Simon Wiesenthal in the middle of the week says he had to know people were being deported. Isn't it interesting how 40 years...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2621.48,2652.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e dull memories. Well the truth is that as you say Roosevelt knew that people were being deported and he didn't do that much about it either. The thing is I think that if the man was just a low -level person I still think that if he was responsible that even though it's 40 years later he should pay whatever the penalty is I don't think anybody should have been in that sort of Holocaust and not really pay for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2653.03,2680.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e and i mean i don't think there's such a thing as sort of a like sort of minor league nazi or what do you have a farm team nazi or triple -a double -a and then somebody who compounds it by lying so i agree with arnold i mean i think this is a pretty pretty serious anti -com I'll see you in the next video. 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And boy, he just came out with one bald -faced lie after another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2694.29,2710.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I want to touch on one other subject before we leave, and that is Jeffrey Levitt. Earlier in the week, it was suggested by his attorneys that Jeffrey Levitt would not, the former president of Old Court Savings and Loan, would not be able to find a fair trial, certainly in the Baltimore area, perhaps not in Maryland. He's been the brunt of a lot of Levitt jokes that all of you have heard and have perhaps Perhaps a toll? What do you think about the jokes? What do you think about the chances Arnold, your our counselor here, about his getting a fair trial? If he were your client, would you want to change a venue? Would you want to move the case?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2710.66,2743.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e well any lawyer who's in the position that his lawyers are in wants to put off the trial as long as they possibly can and is faced with a real problem of this terrible publicity but that's true in any highly publicized case it was true in Watergate and one or two Watergate. But it was true in Watergate. It was true in others. And if you believe in the jury system and you believe in the right of a free press, as we do, then the price you pay is that you work very hard to try to get an impartial jury.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2744.41,2777.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I think he can get an impartial jury. There are people who have not made up their minds, one way or the other, and they just have to seek them out. It might take a long time, but they'll find them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2777.57,2787.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I don't think so. I don't really think so. I think anybody who's ever invested any money has an opinion on this one, and perhaps the point to have to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2787.73,2796.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e But I hold the governor and Steve Sachs and the rest of those folks more just as responsible for what this guy was doing. I'm glad you mentioned the governor. I'm glad you mentioned the governor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2795.12,2804.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know why I assess the blame that way, but basically, I mean, what's the big deal about moving it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2804.74,2808.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you, I'm not as concerned, Tony, about moving it as I am about the governor and the attorney general who rushed to get this case going, who rushed in ahead of the feds and said, we're going to have to charge this guy and there will be more indictments coming momentarily. What is momentarily? I mean, is momentarily in my lifetime, before I retire, where are those other indictments? The people who are watching this program tonight have a right to ask, where are these other criminal indictments? Who are we talking about? Or was it simply to get in ahead of the feds for political reasons? What are we really talking about with Levitt and with Old Court? There are some very serious unanswered questions here. There were two more earlier this week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2809.35,2842.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e There were two indictments earlier this week, but the whole legal part of the case was mishandled by the Attorney General's office. He's going to have to answer to the people for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2854.1,2864.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, part of the problem is that whenever you put the criminal justice system in the hands of elected people, these elected people are going to be torn between administering the system and keeping an eye on the next election. And I, for one, think it's unfortunate that there have to be press conferences by the chief prosecutor every time an indictment is returned. And then once the indictment. Kaplan. And then once the indictment... No, no, no, I don't think Judge Kaplan is doing a thing that's incorrect or improper. And I think it's very much to Judge Kaplan's credit that Judge Kaplan is letting the light into that civil case that he's administering. That's an altogether different thing. But one of the things that every basic principle of criminal cases tells you is that once indictment is returned, the prosecutors are supposed to keep quiet about the case. and the prosecutors are supposed to do the job of trying the case. And what you've seen in these last few cases is that every time there's an indictment returned, the cameras move into the prosecutor's office, and he gives a big press conference. And I don't think that's prob -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2865.27,2937.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e A lot of letters coming up. We'll read some of your mail in just a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2937.66,2940.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2941.07,2942.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e You Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2943.01,2946.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e another subject and you'd have been hot we'd have come right out of a minute and a half break it killed us that's the way it goes you all lost your pizzazz after we after the stop down","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2952.169,2963.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326#t=2963.84,2964.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144624/file/267326/transcript/77345/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's get to the mail. In response to our discussion on the Sunday Blue Laws last week, Alfred J. Merkel of Glen Burnie writes, first it was stop prayer in the school. Now it's let stores open on Sunday. This country was founded and built on God. Let's keep it that way. I know that there are many religions in this country, but they all have a God. Richard Johnson of Lexington Park addresses the same topic saying these laws are not religion and should not be discussed as such. Peter Waldron has no right to tell anyone on which day to pray or work. This country was founded on the principles of freedom of choice. And in reference to our discussion on the educational status of our country, Jeff Myers of Baltimore writes, in 1839 Governor Campbell of Virginia said that one quarter of the men applying for a marriage license were unable to write their names. Such a level of illiteracy is intolerable today. Not only do we have a very high level of literacy today, our society as it is could not otherwise exist. Heather Hastings of Kingsville, Maryland responds to this subject. You know Heather, good for you, St. George. Mr. Lofton's claim that most of the early Americans were literate is 100 % correct. It's a shame we can't go back to teaching children from the New England primer. If we did... if we did. we could teach them to read about God. Other letters from Daryl Starkey of Joppa, Maryland, Deanna Barnett of Manchester, Anna Smith of Pasadena. Write to us at square off WJZ TV, Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland, 21211. We get lots of mail now. We want to hear from you and we might read your letter next Saturday night at 730 when once again we square off. 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