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The Roman Catholic Church also saying it would like to see laws enacted prohibiting the use of surrogate mothers. And I don't square off. We ask, what's your reaction, Dr. Berman? Well, a friend of mine down south, Latinos, put it very bluntly. He said no play of the game, no make of the rules. Really? Friend of yours, Marlon Murphy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=103.62,130.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think when you talk about surrogate mothers, wasn't Mary the first surrogate mother?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=131.1,135.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e John Lofton?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=136.17,136.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Look, you don't have to be Catholic, and I'm not to be worried about people growing unborn, babies in laboratories, experimenting on them, mutilating them, and in some cases, destroying them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=137.31,146.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=146.31,146.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Richard I'm concerned about a twist of branch water and Galileo in a drink, but we'll get into that later. Frankenstein's cabinet is also possible tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=147.69,158.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about the Vatican and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. Everyone's still trying to figure out what Edgar Berman really meant. You play it again. Anyway, good evening, everybody. I'm Richard Sher and welcome to Square Off. It is Saturday night. It is 730. And ladies and gentlemen, it is one week away, one week away from television history in Baltimore, because next Saturday night at 7:00, we bring you the ten year anniversary celebration of this show. That's right. Thank you very much. Squirrel has been on the air for ten years, one of the longest running public affairs shows in the country. And you're going to see all of these people and all of your favorite panelists on the program, One hour of Mayhem next Saturday night at 7:00 March the 21st. Write it down. Remember, we start 30 minutes earlier. And I know that all of you, Edgar, and you must be very excited about. Oh, I am, you know, for tonight, especially because I think this is going to be one of the greatest shows in public affairs. Really? Oh, all right. Whatever. I don't know where you had dinner, but I'm sure you should have eaten something also, Anderson. Good evening, everybody. And let's get on with it. The anniversary show will be next week. Let's get on with what the Vatican had to say. And you had a quote and you're concerned about, Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=158.52,244.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's do it in two parts, Richard. First of all, I think it's entirely appropriate for a religion to express moral concern. And I have great affection for the Catholic Church, even though I'm not a Catholic, because I think there is some risk here unchecked. You know, we just went through a bit of business of spraying strawberries to keep them from freezing. But we were so concerned about genetic mutation, we backed away. So on the one hand, I don't want the Galileo's of the world persecuted by churches. But on the other hand, I see Dr. Frankenstein potentially being unleashed on the world. And I think we have to be extremely careful in what we do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=244.86,282.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, look, Galileo wasn't persecuted. What Galileo was told was that what was a theory, what he was saying was a theory could not be taught as dogma. That's not persecution. The main point of this Vatican document is that just because something is technologically possible doesn't mean it's moral or that it ought to be done. And if there's anyone here on this panel that disagrees with it with that, then they have to say, well, then what are your rules? What is it you think ought to limit science or scientific research?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=283.2,310.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, how about gene splicing? That would be the same thing when you can take a race and knock out sickle cell anemia by gene splicing, it's the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=311.73,323.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but there are dangers that I see in all of this in the wrong hands. I think that if all things were perfect and we were talking about a scientific world that had some ethics in regard to what they did with human beings, I'm reminded of a study done on syphilis in 1936 where they inoculated blacks with syphilis, and for 20 or 30 years they didn't even know that they had it or knew no that they were involved in this. And so I am really aware of what can be done on the wrong side of the law.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=323.61,356.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That God is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=357.18,357.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Doing something good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=358.02,358.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But the thing that concerns me too, is that now when they've come out with this, there are a number of Catholics who have already probably done something that are now in the ranks of the sinful, although they don't say this is retroactive, it gives them a lot of trauma in their lives. 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There's no doubt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=378.63,388.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There's no doubt about it. And of course, those people, in no real sense of the word are in fact Catholics. Now, Dr. Berman, you raise the question, what about the good use of this stuff? Well, but that's the question. How do we determine what is the good use? Well, what is the standard by which I'm sure there were some people that inflicted syphilis on those people who thought it was for a higher moral cause or for a better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=389.19,410.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But if you wanted to but if you wanted a child very badly and you wanted to be artificially inseminated. The Catholic Church says unless you have intercourse for procreation, that's between a husband and wife. It is sinful. Now, you know how often that happens, especially in this day and age.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=410.7,431.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the Catholic Church's position begins with the idea that children are a gift from God, that no one has a right to have children, whereas the opposition to this document is going to be premised on the idea that man is autonomous, he sets his own rules and he can have whatever he wants and he can have it however he wants it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=431.88,449.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but then the church.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=449.95,450.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Says no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=450.96,451.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But you point to Allen like that one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=451.45,452.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=452.99,453.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, just make your point. Oh, he has to obey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=453.93,456.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm not sure Edgar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=457.26,458.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan was hatched.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=459.06,459.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, come on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=460.44,460.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll accept that. But let's get down to the bottom of what I think is wrong with what the Catholic Church said. They're bogged down on sex, and I think there is more. Well, yes, they are, John. They're they're concerned about sex because in large. Part. They preach abstinence among the people who enforce the doctrine of the religion. And I respect their right to do that. But I think there is a greater danger. We now know in the laboratory that brain cells of a fetus can be transferred and have potential for Alzheimer's disease, for retardation. Why not address the broader issue? Are we going to have people growing fetuses for sale? Are we going to against ethically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=460.86,501.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Against growing fetuses?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=501.78,502.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm very much concerned about a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=503.06,504.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Of the question, are you against it and think there should be a law against it? 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But I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=511.76,512.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=513.86,513.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm trying to say here we have to wrestle with a broader question. If we take a person who is suffering from Alzheimer's disease and that person is inflicting great financial drain on the family, we can make that person better by transferring brain cells. But do we have then a different human being?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=515.24,533.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But you can never, ever do an evil thing to achieve a good end, Not even to achieve a good end. That's what we're facing. And I'm reading a book written by it's a new book by Robert J. Lifton called The Nazi Doctors Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide. And the point that Dr. Lifton makes is that Nazi medical experiments were done for two reasons. They were those sponsored by the regime for specific ideological and military purposes and political purposes. And then there were those that were done ad hoc out of allegedly scientific interest on the part of the stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=533.99,565.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And your point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=565.91,566.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e My point is that if we disapprove of that kind of use of medical technology, what is it we're going to turn to to outlaw it? 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I, too, have read considerable information about the Nazi doctors gouging out eyes and sticking needles in brains just to determine whether twins twitched the same way. 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But you must look at the worst in order to understand our society and happen in a perfect world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=659.27,667.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What has happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=667.82,669.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think it does anyway? For instance, in France, Belgium, Italy, low birth rates in Europe. Right. This is so if you don't know it. But how does that come about? By divine providence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=670.13,684.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, look, they are talking about what? 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But then there are enough children who have been born, who have no parents or who have no who need to be adopted that nobody's caring anything about. And I think if you want to have children that badly, then you would be concerned about the total picture of how children are treated in our society and take care of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=691.37,711.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e God's sake, if someone wants a child badly, I would rather have half of the genes like the husbands or the wives than none of the genes and adopt. 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Before her time, a Nazi before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=753.11,755.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Was in the population movement when it first introduced it to the State Department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=755.87,759.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You a Sanger fan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=759.89,760.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I am a Sanger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=761.09,761.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, she she favored eugenics, too. I'm telling you what the motto of her birth control review. Do you mind if I tell you some facts? May I confuse you with the motto of her birth control review? 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I've seen a cover of the Malthusian theory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=778.99,782.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you call it what you want, she wondered. She thought some. Right. You don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=783.02,785.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Fit? 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We're back on the air. No yelling at Madeline about that. Was agreeing with me last night was a grade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=940.45,947.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We should have seen that on television where we shook hands. 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So I was saying that this idea that there are some fit races and some unfit races and the unfit races have to limit their populations is a racist notion. It's still alive today and it's being pushed by Planned Parenthood. 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I'm not. Oh, wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=984.27,986.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That isn't what you say that you said. It's for the purpose of reducing the black population.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=987.14,992.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Obviously, if you're giving condoms out to blacks, you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=992.99,995.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Can reduce the appalling park in Park Heights Avenue. Alan, settle this. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=995.36,999.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the things that and let's get back to the original premise here, and that is that an organized religion is taking a stance on what it finds acceptable while at the same time the prelates of the religion abstain from sex. So. All right. Now, here's my point, John. 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I mean, it's crazy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1039.16,1039.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Not at all. How how how are you going to advise the people who are engaging in indiscriminate sex? What are you going to say to them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1040.51,1046.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, look, Catholic priests, moral theologians go from the holy scripture and from the tradition of their church. They don't have to actually engage in sodomy to know that it's a sin. 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And.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1065.71,1067.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There's another point that they are trying to say that that the way a married couple shows, a loving relationship is fulfilled through the sexual act, which I don't agree with. I think a married couple can show its love in many other ways than just through a sexual act. And so I think when they narrow it to that idea, I think they're all off base. But as far as surrogate motherhood, we've got a case in New Jersey right now, and nobody knows exactly how that's going to turn out. 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And considering what they're going through and what is to be thought of in that relationship, I think it is a horrible one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1103.42,1110.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And it's going to for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1111.16,1112.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e God's sake, that's one case. And you don't know how many cases have an artificial insemination, surrogate mother and so forth? Thousands of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1113.14,1120.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I realize that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1121.17,1121.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But I'm making people happy. But the baby is out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1122.35,1125.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The baby the baby case is a very interesting case because the mother has the mother who could be the mother. Father has has a mild case of multiple sclerosis In order not to aggravate that disease, they agreed to have a surrogate child. Now, does that strike you as morally wrong?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1126.43,1146.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, but see, Edgar has revealed his own philosophy here. He says, you know, these people doing these things, it makes them happy. 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Why do you keep betting on this show will be a ten year anniversary that's thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1163.27,1168.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e To be about 100.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1168.28,1169.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e About responding to my point, I said a lot of bad things make people happy. 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It's really not down on sex for years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1200.83,1203.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This issue touches much more than just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1203.65,1205.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Sick with this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1205.48,1205.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This issue touches on much more than just sex. For example, one of the things they want to outlaw is putting human beings into the uteruses of animals or trying to cross humans and animals. Are you are you for a law against that or you think they ought to be allowed to experiment with that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1206.26,1219.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No laws. 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Other questions, Alan, is not this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1235.51,1238.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Deal on the local level. I'll tell you what, the Catholic Church, on the local level here in Baltimore spends more time and money on charity. I will say as much time and money on charity as any other organization in this area showing their concern for the hungry, the poor and the needy. But on the international level, it seems as though sometimes the products are speaking down from Mount Olympus to the great unwashed masses. 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What difference, though, what comes down from Mount Olympus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1282.04,1285.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The Vatican Highway with the Vatican? I know. Zoos and zoos. 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News. Contraceptives. 80% of Catholics in the USA Today poll just said that they would. They think the pope is wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1299.05,1311.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And America has always been a place that you had this rebellious group of people who are not going to follow everything and are going to dance around what make sense. And they're not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1312.43,1322.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And if they keep ignoring the church, they're not Catholics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1322.9,1325.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I know. And the Catholic Church calling this a sin gives you the impression, on the other hand, that everybody's poor unless they commit these acts and people are sinful all the time, regardless of whether they can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1325.81,1337.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But they.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1337.39,1337.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Think it was a sin to eat meat on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1338.98,1340.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Friday, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1341.11,1341.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e 20 years ago today. It's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1342.12,1343.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1344.4,1344.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The winning one is a sin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1344.8,1345.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And the crazy part of it is, is it retroactive? 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You're not anti-abortion or you don't think abortion should be illegal, do I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1376.57,1381.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not crazy about abortion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1382.06,1382.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But do you think it should be illegal? Are we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1383.35,1384.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e About about I think that those for those who want it should have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1384.88,1387.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62855/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It. Okay. Well, then what's wrong with it? 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The Roman Catholic Church also saying it would like to see laws enacted prohibiting the use of surrogate mothers. And I don't square off. We ask, what's your reaction, Dr. Berman? Well, a friend of mine down south, Latinos, put it very bluntly. He said no play of the game, no make of the rules. Really? 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Frankenstein's cabinet is also possible tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=147.69,158.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about the Vatican and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. Everyone's still trying to figure out what Edgar Berman really meant. You play it again. Anyway, good evening, everybody. I'm Richard Sher and welcome to Square Off. It is Saturday night. It is 730. And ladies and gentlemen, it is one week away, one week away from television history in Baltimore, because next Saturday night at 7:00, we bring you the ten year anniversary celebration of this show. That's right. Thank you very much. Squirrel has been on the air for ten years, one of the longest running public affairs shows in the country. And you're going to see all of these people and all of your favorite panelists on the program, One hour of Mayhem next Saturday night at 7:00 March the 21st. Write it down. Remember, we start 30 minutes earlier. And I know that all of you, Edgar, and you must be very excited about. Oh, I am, you know, for tonight, especially because I think this is going to be one of the greatest shows in public affairs. Really? Oh, all right. Whatever. I don't know where you had dinner, but I'm sure you should have eaten something also, Anderson. Good evening, everybody. And let's get on with it. The anniversary show will be next week. Let's get on with what the Vatican had to say. And you had a quote and you're concerned about, Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=158.52,244.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's do it in two parts, Richard. First of all, I think it's entirely appropriate for a religion to express moral concern. And I have great affection for the Catholic Church, even though I'm not a Catholic, because I think there is some risk here unchecked. You know, we just went through a bit of business of spraying strawberries to keep them from freezing. But we were so concerned about genetic mutation, we backed away. So on the one hand, I don't want the Galileo's of the world persecuted by churches. 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There's no doubt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=378.63,388.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There's no doubt about it. And of course, those people, in no real sense of the word are in fact Catholics. Now, Dr. Berman, you raise the question, what about the good use of this stuff? Well, but that's the question. How do we determine what is the good use? Well, what is the standard by which I'm sure there were some people that inflicted syphilis on those people who thought it was for a higher moral cause or for a better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=389.19,410.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But if you wanted to but if you wanted a child very badly and you wanted to be artificially inseminated. The Catholic Church says unless you have intercourse for procreation, that's between a husband and wife. It is sinful. 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Oh, he has to obey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=453.93,456.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm not sure Edgar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=457.26,458.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan was hatched.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=459.06,459.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, come on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=460.44,460.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll accept that. But let's get down to the bottom of what I think is wrong with what the Catholic Church said. They're bogged down on sex, and I think there is more. Well, yes, they are, John. They're they're concerned about sex because in large. Part. They preach abstinence among the people who enforce the doctrine of the religion. And I respect their right to do that. But I think there is a greater danger. We now know in the laboratory that brain cells of a fetus can be transferred and have potential for Alzheimer's disease, for retardation. Why not address the broader issue? Are we going to have people growing fetuses for sale? Are we going to against ethically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=460.86,501.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Against growing fetuses?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=501.78,502.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm very much concerned about a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=503.06,504.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Of the question, are you against it and think there should be a law against it? I am against it and I think there should be a law.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=505.25,509.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm not against adoption.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=509.99,511.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not. But I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=511.76,512.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=513.86,513.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm trying to say here we have to wrestle with a broader question. If we take a person who is suffering from Alzheimer's disease and that person is inflicting great financial drain on the family, we can make that person better by transferring brain cells. But do we have then a different human being?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=515.24,533.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But you can never, ever do an evil thing to achieve a good end, Not even to achieve a good end. That's what we're facing. And I'm reading a book written by it's a new book by Robert J. Lifton called The Nazi Doctors Medical Killing and the Psychology of Genocide. And the point that Dr. Lifton makes is that Nazi medical experiments were done for two reasons. 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What are the rules going to be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=566.81,574.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Which on every.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=574.43,574.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Step of the way, we want to stop it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=576.25,577.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How can we be sure that that doesn't happen in our society?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=578.18,580.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think there's a tremendous difference. I, too, have read considerable information about the Nazi doctors gouging out eyes and sticking needles in brains just to determine whether twins twitched the same way. 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Of course I will.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=595.49,596.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Good. But there is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=596.57,597.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Still the broader question, because now we're getting news reports from Africa that indicate to us that the AIDS virus in Africa is being transmitted not only between heterosexuals, but between mothers and their unborn babies, of course. So now we have even the AIDS epidemic entering into the mix.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=598.13,617.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Nevertheless, you also have the study of genes that is going on in rapid growth in Japan, where they're using robots in all kinds of computerized situations in order to develop a an understanding of DNA and what it can do for men, for medicine and all that sort of thing. But it frightens the hell out of me. And I'll tell you why, because it becomes just such a scientific and technological thing. There is there's no ethics involved with this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=617.93,650.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Where would medicine be today without the scientific?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=652.25,654.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but we're we're all concerned about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=654.54,656.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=657.17,657.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The worst thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=658.43,658.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We're talking about. But you must look at the worst in order to understand our society and happen in a perfect world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=659.27,667.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What has happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=667.82,669.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think it does anyway? For instance, in France, Belgium, Italy, low birth rates in Europe. Right. This is so if you don't know it. But how does that come about? By divine providence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=670.13,684.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, look, they are talking about what? What the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=685.19,688.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Church says and what the Catholics do about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=688.43,691.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It. Wait a minute. But then there are enough children who have been born, who have no parents or who have no who need to be adopted that nobody's caring anything about. And I think if you want to have children that badly, then you would be concerned about the total picture of how children are treated in our society and take care of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=691.37,711.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e God's sake, if someone wants a child badly, I would rather have half of the genes like the husbands or the wives than none of the genes and adopt. Well, you don't know what's going to happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=712.23,722.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Look, Alan, a minute ago I said when I mentioned this book about the Nazi doctors, that, well, that's kind of a different thing. Well, I wonder how different it is. In the 1920s in this country, we had a woman named Margaret Sanger. She is the mother of the modern birth control movement. She is the founder of Planned Parenthood. She was a eugenicist. She felt she favored breeding fit races. She didn't like poor people and foreign people. 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Before her time, a Nazi before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=753.11,755.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Was in the population movement when it first introduced it to the State Department.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=755.87,759.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You a Sanger fan?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=759.89,760.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I am a Sanger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=761.09,761.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, she she favored eugenics, too. I'm telling you what the motto of her birth control review. Do you mind if I tell you some facts? May I confuse you with the motto of her birth control review? 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We're back on the air. No yelling at Madeline about that. Was agreeing with me last night was a grade.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=940.45,947.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We should have seen that on television where we shook hands. 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So I was saying that this idea that there are some fit races and some unfit races and the unfit races have to limit their populations is a racist notion. It's still alive today and it's being pushed by Planned Parenthood. 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It's for the purpose of reducing the black population.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=987.14,992.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Obviously, if you're giving condoms out to blacks, you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=992.99,995.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Can reduce the appalling park in Park Heights Avenue. Alan, settle this. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=995.36,999.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the things that and let's get back to the original premise here, and that is that an organized religion is taking a stance on what it finds acceptable while at the same time the prelates of the religion abstain from sex. So. All right. Now, here's my point, John. 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I mean, it's crazy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1039.16,1039.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Not at all. How how how are you going to advise the people who are engaging in indiscriminate sex? What are you going to say to them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1040.51,1046.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, look, Catholic priests, moral theologians go from the holy scripture and from the tradition of their church. They don't have to actually engage in sodomy to know that it's a sin. 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And.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1065.71,1067.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There's another point that they are trying to say that that the way a married couple shows, a loving relationship is fulfilled through the sexual act, which I don't agree with. I think a married couple can show its love in many other ways than just through a sexual act. And so I think when they narrow it to that idea, I think they're all off base. But as far as surrogate motherhood, we've got a case in New Jersey right now, and nobody knows exactly how that's going to turn out. 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And considering what they're going through and what is to be thought of in that relationship, I think it is a horrible one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1103.42,1110.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And it's going to for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1111.16,1112.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e God's sake, that's one case. And you don't know how many cases have an artificial insemination, surrogate mother and so forth? Thousands of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1113.14,1120.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I realize that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1121.17,1121.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But I'm making people happy. But the baby is out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1122.35,1125.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The baby the baby case is a very interesting case because the mother has the mother who could be the mother. Father has has a mild case of multiple sclerosis In order not to aggravate that disease, they agreed to have a surrogate child. 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Why do you keep betting on this show will be a ten year anniversary that's thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1163.27,1168.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e To be about 100.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1168.28,1169.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e About responding to my point, I said a lot of bad things make people happy. 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It's really not down on sex for years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1200.83,1203.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This issue touches much more than just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1203.65,1205.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Sick with this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1205.48,1205.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This issue touches on much more than just sex. For example, one of the things they want to outlaw is putting human beings into the uteruses of animals or trying to cross humans and animals. Are you are you for a law against that or you think they ought to be allowed to experiment with that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1206.26,1219.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No laws. 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What difference, though, what comes down from Mount Olympus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1282.04,1285.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The Vatican Highway with the Vatican? I know. Zoos and zoos. 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News. Contraceptives. 80% of Catholics in the USA Today poll just said that they would. They think the pope is wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1299.05,1311.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And America has always been a place that you had this rebellious group of people who are not going to follow everything and are going to dance around what make sense. 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And the Catholic Church calling this a sin gives you the impression, on the other hand, that everybody's poor unless they commit these acts and people are sinful all the time, regardless of whether they can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1325.81,1337.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But they.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1337.39,1337.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Think it was a sin to eat meat on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1338.98,1340.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Friday, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1341.11,1341.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e 20 years ago today. It's okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1342.12,1343.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1344.4,1344.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The winning one is a sin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1344.8,1345.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And the crazy part of it is, is it retroactive? 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You're not anti-abortion or you don't think abortion should be illegal, do I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1376.57,1381.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not crazy about abortion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940#t=1382.06,1382.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118459/file/222940/transcript/62971/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But do you think it should be illegal? 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