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He also criticizes Democratic proposals for welfare reform, charging they contain sham work requirements and would make staying on welfare more attractive. Tonight on SWERVE, we ask you your opinion of the present welfare system in this country. Boyce Mosley.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=49.74,72.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it is a shambles and I happen to agree with the President. Welfare is a trap for poor people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=73.32,78.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Tony King Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=78.42,79.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I agree with the first part of what Reagan said, I certainly don't agree with the second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=79.5,82.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Term are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=82.74,83.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Welfare is a very cruel joke on the very people that it's supposed to help. It's an awful system and needs a total overhaul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=83.82,90.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Karl Snowden We need to abolish the welfare system. And part of the problem is Mr. Reagan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=90.45,94.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about welfare and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. For those of you who have called and asked, I want you to know that at the end of last week's show, you may not believe it, but John Lofton and Billy Murphy actually did shake hands. Janet Dates and John Lofton. Still have not shaken hands. Maybe that'll happen in one of the upcoming square off programs. If you saw, it was very hot and our discussion about abortion and we might be talking about that sometime, certainly in the near future. And we asked them at the end of the program panelist to not get personal, not to make personal attacks on fellow. I was going to say, panelists. All right. Let's talk about the present welfare system tomorrow from WFB. And let's welcome you back. Good to have you back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=95.4,141.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, Richard. It is not President Reagan's fault. As Carl indicated, he may want to put some of the blame there, but the system is a joke because it has perpetuated a cycle of pain. It's the one thing I agree with Jesse Jackson on, and you can come up with all of the do gooder programs and the liberals created this system that's not working and there is fraud. There is a tendency to get on it and to stay on it, and it just doesn't work. You can have all of the job training programs you want out of the subsidy of employers you want. But the simple fact is that these young people out there now caught in the welfare trap have to learn the attitude of going to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=142.08,181.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Carl, let me take Tom. Why I say Mr. Reagan's part of the problem. Welfare reform was something he had promised. He's been president now and going in his second term. And the fact of the matter is, what it really will take is a serious overhaul of the welfare system. And Mr. Reagan does the same thing. He blames the Democrats. He gives lip service to the problem. I'm for the abolition, believe it or not, of the welfare system. I think the solution to the welfare system that I'm going to offer you probably will disagree with. But I think it would be cheaper if we had a guaranteed annual income where every single family had a guaranteed annual income of what those two.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=181.44,215.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Have left as.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=215.88,216.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Opposed to welfare. For example, whatever the current poverty rate is for a family of four, that the government ought to be subsidizing persons at that exact amount. When you factor in the amount of money we spend on food stamps, federal subsidized housing and all the other programs combined, it actually cost American middle class.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=216.42,237.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=237.3,237.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Have a guaranteed annual income that every single family that can eliminate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=237.51,240.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Poverty, and that's no problem attempting to guarantee things to people. If we reform the welfare system, we've got to reform with this in mind to make people independent. And our present welfare system makes people dependent. And that cycle of poverty will never be broken with our present system. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=240.87,261.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Boyce, I agree with you. And basically one of the big problems is that you have a major disincentive to work. And I think we keep forgetting about that, that if a person wants to get off of welfare, most of the time it's minimum wage jobs. They lose all kinds of benefits, rent subsidies, they lose health care benefits. And basically we encourage people to stay on welfare. And I think the thing where the family sees the person, the alleged breadwinner not working and the habits aren't there is is absolutely disastrous. Well, and you're right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=262.68,289.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You have to develop in especially in our young people. And we now have women when they're 14 years old, getting pregnant. Then by the time they're 28, they have a daughter caught in that same cycle of pain. We have to teach young people the value of going out and getting a job and working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=290.16,307.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=307.65,307.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you do it by saying, look, first of all, there are jobs. We will train you for them. You have to learn the work ethic. If you come across with Karl's plan of giving everybody a certain amount of money, nobody is going to go to work. They're going to stay home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=308.22,321.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Women. Let me let me make the point clear, because you missed the point entirely. See, that's what I'm saying. The whole notion that we in this country have been dealing with in terms of welfare program, it sounds nice to say we ought to have people working, etc.. And whether it's been conservatives or Republicans, sorry, conservatives or liberals, Republicans or Democrats, we all give lip service to that. But the fact of the matter is, nothing changes. Again, what a guaranteed annual income. And by the way, it's not a radical idea. It started off as a Nixonian idea back in the day. Yes, it did. What it would essentially do is simply this instead of us, if you want to take again, all of the welfare programs that exist in this country, and if the people got those direct benefits as opposed to the overhead and administrators, people would indeed be out of poverty. What I'm simply suggesting is that there are a group of people in this country, for various reasons, will never be able to work. People handicapped the elderly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=323.13,373.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a minute. That's very small.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=374.61,376.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But the fact of the matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=377.13,377.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Is the fact of the matter is they exist. We ought to be focusing in on that reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=377.94,382.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Let us take care of that. Well, let us take care of that small minority. But my goodness, the jobs are there. But you have to teach people the jobs are there and you have to teach people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=383.01,393.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=394.22,394.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Talking about who's on there, we're talking about in this country the growing number of women who were in poverty. And when we look at women's wages and even women who are not at the poverty level, we're seeing a big. You'll hear in terms of what men are paid for work and what women are paid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=395.1,409.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't want to get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=409.49,409.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=410.24,411.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Getting women into minimum wage jobs. It just doesn't pay. They aren't going to be able to raise these kids, you know, And it just really exacerbates over time. I think we have to investigate the issue of women's working women's wage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=411.59,422.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Tom And then voice. Well, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=422.99,424.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't want to get into the comparable worth argument. That's another show at another time. But we do know that if a woman is at home, she didn't complete school and she has a child, there's very little chance that she is going to get into the job market. She should be going to school with her child, number one. And. Right. And the fact is, the jobs are there, but you have to motivate people to work. Motivation is the key here, not the job. 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You can't raise kids on that kind of money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=456.59,463.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's work we have to instill in young people, as Tom said, the work ethic. We have to instill in young people that they are responsible for their well-being. Okay. But how do you do that in our present system? Doesn't. How do you. For example, I suggested that mothers who have children are on welfare. They're 17 and 18. Bring them back into school with their children, establish daycare centers in the school, help these parents become competent, give them, give them some skills, and they will be there with their young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=463.6,500.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e How much is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=500.81,501.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Going to cost? This is what what type of welfare programs you do. Ultimately, it would make these people independent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=501.17,508.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I have a challenge to both of you. When Jewish people came here, they came here with the clothes on their back, but they came here and they revered their education. They had a deep faith and they believed in the work ethic. In a generation they had taken a quantum leap economically. Asian people have come here and in a generation they have seen their sons and daughters finish number one and hold on number one and number two, in school, in education classes, we have taken minorities and we, the liberals, have kept them in this trap society since the early sixties. We just keep them there and they don't have one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=509.21,548.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't have to lecture me on this because certainly I'm very close to my immigrant roots and you know, we came over on the boat, etc., etc., and have done very well in this country. We're talking about a change society, though. We're not talking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=548.36,558.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e About the term.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=558.65,558.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Because structurally it's changed because basically you don't have that much of a call anymore for unskilled and semi-skilled workers. If you look at what's happened in this society, it's turning from a society which used to be a production oriented kind of society and to a service society, which is basically we're seeing the growth of minimum wage jobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=559.52,575.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=575.57,575.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e More highly questionable jobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=576.32,577.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That is, we're.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=578.0,578.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Not seeing the same kinds of opportunities open to people who don't have who don't have the. Don't tell me I'm wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=578.45,583.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely wrong. You don't think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=584.93,586.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You can work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=586.56,586.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Out. One of the things I want to make and just just I've never met you, Tom. So if I'm wrong in terms of the inference you seem to imply, which is that the majority of people on welfare happen to be minorities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=587.18,596.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=597.45,598.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=598.63,598.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Not against people on welfare.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=598.91,599.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e White Oh, well, I want to clarify that. I'm glad you said it, because for every one black family on welfare that three white families.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=600.14,604.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They have been trapped.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=605.45,605.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And the fact of the matter is that some of those ethnic groups that you have mentioned, whether you're Jews or Asians or others, make up those welfare. I mean, not all Asians are not on welfare. All Jews are not on welfare. The welfare or welfare system is a rainbow in the poor sense of the word no flexible ethnic group. But the point I do want make, Boyce, is this is simply is nobody on this panel would argue against people being independent, self-reliant, and people breaking the poverty trap, as you call it. The question is, how do we do it? And again, each of you gentlemen who come from the conservative posture offer the same very solutions. The liberals all I'll give you, you offer, you offer more. They care. You offer more money and time out. You say, So what the cost? What difference?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=606.44,652.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm going to offer you somebody else you said I'm going to offer you. Look, young man, you have gone around now and you have fathered four children out of wedlock. We don't want you fathering four more. It's time that you come in and get a grant and have a vasectomy. 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Don't you think? At somewhere along the line she should have had her child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=672.44,685.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I have. I have a problem with with services. You see, I do not think that the government should get in that area. What we should do, say, when you have too many children, we're not giving you any more giving you any more money than the children say, Well, I don't care, then you don't care about our children. I don't know. That's not it. You just. What I'm saying is that in our system of welfare, whatever it be, whether that's reformed or not, we have to institute and get into the minds of people that they must be responsible for their actions. There is an extent to which government will subsidize irresponsible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=686.64,723.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me just we're.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=724.75,725.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Going around to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=725.62,725.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Voice the problem. And, you know, I really have a serious problem when I hear you guys do this with a broad brush. You would include everybody on welfare?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=726.64,735.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, nothing that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=736.18,736.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Influences the inference is clear from people who watch this program. The assumption is that everybody on welfare is lazy. No, no, wait.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=738.37,745.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=746.08,746.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Way you gentlemen come up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=746.74,747.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Know what you do when you talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=747.85,750.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e About half of a sector? Me as the solution to the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=751.51,754.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a Don Reno solution. If you bothered to listen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=754.9,758.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e To is a foolish approach toward the problem. It is a complex problem. Part of the solution, again, I suggest, is instead of putting a lot of money into the probe, into welfare to the various human services programs, let's give people guaranteed annual income.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=759.13,772.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How would that solve the problem?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=773.05,773.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It would immediately, for example, do what you have argued is make people independent. You would say, for example, for a family of four, if $12,000 would put you above the poverty level, this is the only subsidy you get. You go from there on you to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=774.37,786.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Teach the work ethic. How hard I think, which is the fact that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=786.97,790.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, a lot of it's not working is that these people don't want to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=791.14,794.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now we're not. 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Excuse me. Big business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=802.3,804.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Go ahead, Tony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=805.78,806.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I think as these people don't want to work. Most people get a lot of satisfaction from their work. 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Carl, you're real annoyed. I mean, you work during the break. Get it out and get it on the table.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=947.89,956.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Essentially, what I was saying to Tom is, you know, we called welfare foreign aid instead of welfare. Most people would have problems. I'd like to see Tom and Boris have much as much concern about the accountability where our dollars go, that we send billions of dollars overseas when nobody is will examine. We spend more money in foreign aid, frankly, and not know where those dollars go. 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She makes, they say, $500,000 or more a year. She is not married. She is pregnant. She's having a child out of wedlock. It is public knowledge in Boston. And this has created quite a stir. A role model, a leading anchor woman on television out of wedlock is having a child at times when, for instance, in Baltimore, we're the number one city with teenage mothers. How do you feel about it? Can she. Because she can afford it. Is it okay? It's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1005.36,1039.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. If you're going to have a child out of wedlock, it should be a person like this, walker because she can't afford it. 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Let's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1159.74,1161.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Not now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1161.96,1162.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There are lots of kids being raised in fear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1162.44,1163.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And there are a lot more problems in broken homes and women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1164.06,1166.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, there are. And I you know, I don't you know, and I'm very ambivalent about this. On the one hand, you know, I mean, we don't know this accident. We don't know if this is deliberate. And I certainly we don't have enough information to analyze this woman. It's not our business. 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But now, let me finish what I'm saying now. You know, I mean, essentially, as you said, she's she can afford this baby. She can afford this baby. And there are a number of women who are now making this decision. And I don't think we can throw stones at her. I wish, however, it would not have been so public for the very reason the very reason that boys brag about. No, she's not. She's not bragging about it, she say. 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The fact that he is the son of a public calling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1234.11,1238.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Card you should listen to my show on WFB are a little more often. I did make it a oh, yes, unplugged. I did make it a public issue on my show. And he is not a good role.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1239.27,1248.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you all. Did you suggest that he get a vasectomy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1248.45,1250.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e If he if he just two or three more? 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Well, if listen, at some point, you ought to quit fathering children if you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1255.92,1260.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you know that you fathered four sons or he fathered forces? Do we have this paternity police that go around and track where the sperm went? I don't understand this. 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And the children look amazingly like their fathers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1303.32,1307.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But that isn't the point. The point is, is it good for our society to have this kind of thing going on? Is it a good role model? 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Yeah. Is that the bad role model presented for those people? And then too many people in our society that those marriages. One question, too many people in our society today are condoning such actions. And that's why we have a number one just born out of wedlock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1358.94,1377.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Just one simple question. If a woman chooses to have a baby and decides not to be with the spouse, does she have the baby? 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One, As long as she can support the young youngster, as long as she doesn't make a big public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1386.12,1394.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Time, you're.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1394.76,1395.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Fine. 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But it's much better to have a father and mother role in the home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1396.32,1402.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I think one of the things we have to underline is I think it's very different from a 15 or 16 year old mother versus a third.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1402.65,1407.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Mother who.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1407.99,1408.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Is obstructive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1409.43,1409.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62841/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. 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He also criticizes Democratic proposals for welfare reform, charging they contain sham work requirements and would make staying on welfare more attractive. Tonight on SWERVE, we ask you your opinion of the present welfare system in this country. Boyce Mosley.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=49.74,72.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it is a shambles and I happen to agree with the President. 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It's an awful system and needs a total overhaul.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=83.82,90.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Karl Snowden We need to abolish the welfare system. And part of the problem is Mr. Reagan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=90.45,94.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about welfare and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. For those of you who have called and asked, I want you to know that at the end of last week's show, you may not believe it, but John Lofton and Billy Murphy actually did shake hands. Janet Dates and John Lofton. Still have not shaken hands. Maybe that'll happen in one of the upcoming square off programs. If you saw, it was very hot and our discussion about abortion and we might be talking about that sometime, certainly in the near future. And we asked them at the end of the program panelist to not get personal, not to make personal attacks on fellow. I was going to say, panelists. All right. Let's talk about the present welfare system tomorrow from WFB. And let's welcome you back. Good to have you back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=95.4,141.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, Richard. It is not President Reagan's fault. As Carl indicated, he may want to put some of the blame there, but the system is a joke because it has perpetuated a cycle of pain. It's the one thing I agree with Jesse Jackson on, and you can come up with all of the do gooder programs and the liberals created this system that's not working and there is fraud. There is a tendency to get on it and to stay on it, and it just doesn't work. You can have all of the job training programs you want out of the subsidy of employers you want. But the simple fact is that these young people out there now caught in the welfare trap have to learn the attitude of going to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=142.08,181.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Carl, let me take Tom. Why I say Mr. Reagan's part of the problem. Welfare reform was something he had promised. He's been president now and going in his second term. And the fact of the matter is, what it really will take is a serious overhaul of the welfare system. And Mr. Reagan does the same thing. He blames the Democrats. He gives lip service to the problem. I'm for the abolition, believe it or not, of the welfare system. I think the solution to the welfare system that I'm going to offer you probably will disagree with. 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For example, whatever the current poverty rate is for a family of four, that the government ought to be subsidizing persons at that exact amount. When you factor in the amount of money we spend on food stamps, federal subsidized housing and all the other programs combined, it actually cost American middle class.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=216.42,237.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=237.3,237.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Have a guaranteed annual income that every single family that can eliminate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=237.51,240.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Poverty, and that's no problem attempting to guarantee things to people. If we reform the welfare system, we've got to reform with this in mind to make people independent. And our present welfare system makes people dependent. And that cycle of poverty will never be broken with our present system. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=240.87,261.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Boyce, I agree with you. And basically one of the big problems is that you have a major disincentive to work. And I think we keep forgetting about that, that if a person wants to get off of welfare, most of the time it's minimum wage jobs. They lose all kinds of benefits, rent subsidies, they lose health care benefits. And basically we encourage people to stay on welfare. And I think the thing where the family sees the person, the alleged breadwinner not working and the habits aren't there is is absolutely disastrous. Well, and you're right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=262.68,289.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You have to develop in especially in our young people. And we now have women when they're 14 years old, getting pregnant. Then by the time they're 28, they have a daughter caught in that same cycle of pain. We have to teach young people the value of going out and getting a job and working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=290.16,307.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=307.65,307.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you do it by saying, look, first of all, there are jobs. We will train you for them. You have to learn the work ethic. If you come across with Karl's plan of giving everybody a certain amount of money, nobody is going to go to work. They're going to stay home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=308.22,321.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Women. Let me let me make the point clear, because you missed the point entirely. See, that's what I'm saying. The whole notion that we in this country have been dealing with in terms of welfare program, it sounds nice to say we ought to have people working, etc.. And whether it's been conservatives or Republicans, sorry, conservatives or liberals, Republicans or Democrats, we all give lip service to that. But the fact of the matter is, nothing changes. Again, what a guaranteed annual income. And by the way, it's not a radical idea. It started off as a Nixonian idea back in the day. Yes, it did. What it would essentially do is simply this instead of us, if you want to take again, all of the welfare programs that exist in this country, and if the people got those direct benefits as opposed to the overhead and administrators, people would indeed be out of poverty. What I'm simply suggesting is that there are a group of people in this country, for various reasons, will never be able to work. People handicapped the elderly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=323.13,373.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a minute. That's very small.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=374.61,376.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But the fact of the matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=377.13,377.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Is the fact of the matter is they exist. We ought to be focusing in on that reality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=377.94,382.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Let us take care of that. Well, let us take care of that small minority. But my goodness, the jobs are there. But you have to teach people the jobs are there and you have to teach people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=383.01,393.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=394.22,394.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Talking about who's on there, we're talking about in this country the growing number of women who were in poverty. And when we look at women's wages and even women who are not at the poverty level, we're seeing a big. You'll hear in terms of what men are paid for work and what women are paid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=395.1,409.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't want to get.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=409.49,409.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=410.24,411.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Getting women into minimum wage jobs. It just doesn't pay. They aren't going to be able to raise these kids, you know, And it just really exacerbates over time. I think we have to investigate the issue of women's working women's wage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=411.59,422.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Tom And then voice. Well, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=422.99,424.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't want to get into the comparable worth argument. That's another show at another time. But we do know that if a woman is at home, she didn't complete school and she has a child, there's very little chance that she is going to get into the job market. She should be going to school with her child, number one. And. Right. And the fact is, the jobs are there, but you have to motivate people to work. Motivation is the key here, not the job. 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Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=451.07,453.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the way I started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=454.09,454.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e A family on a minimum wage job. We're talking minimum wage pays, what, about 6% a year, 60 $500 a year. You can't raise kids on that kind of money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=456.59,463.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's work we have to instill in young people, as Tom said, the work ethic. We have to instill in young people that they are responsible for their well-being. Okay. But how do you do that in our present system? Doesn't. How do you. For example, I suggested that mothers who have children are on welfare. They're 17 and 18. Bring them back into school with their children, establish daycare centers in the school, help these parents become competent, give them, give them some skills, and they will be there with their young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=463.6,500.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e How much is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=500.81,501.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Going to cost? This is what what type of welfare programs you do. Ultimately, it would make these people independent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=501.17,508.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I have a challenge to both of you. When Jewish people came here, they came here with the clothes on their back, but they came here and they revered their education. They had a deep faith and they believed in the work ethic. In a generation they had taken a quantum leap economically. Asian people have come here and in a generation they have seen their sons and daughters finish number one and hold on number one and number two, in school, in education classes, we have taken minorities and we, the liberals, have kept them in this trap society since the early sixties. We just keep them there and they don't have one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=509.21,548.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't have to lecture me on this because certainly I'm very close to my immigrant roots and you know, we came over on the boat, etc., etc., and have done very well in this country. We're talking about a change society, though. We're not talking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=548.36,558.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e About the term.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=558.65,558.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Because structurally it's changed because basically you don't have that much of a call anymore for unskilled and semi-skilled workers. If you look at what's happened in this society, it's turning from a society which used to be a production oriented kind of society and to a service society, which is basically we're seeing the growth of minimum wage jobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=559.52,575.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=575.57,575.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e More highly questionable jobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=576.32,577.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That is, we're.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=578.0,578.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Not seeing the same kinds of opportunities open to people who don't have who don't have the. Don't tell me I'm wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=578.45,583.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely wrong. You don't think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=584.93,586.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You can work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=586.56,586.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Out. One of the things I want to make and just just I've never met you, Tom. So if I'm wrong in terms of the inference you seem to imply, which is that the majority of people on welfare happen to be minorities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=587.18,596.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=597.45,598.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=598.63,598.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Not against people on welfare.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=598.91,599.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e White Oh, well, I want to clarify that. I'm glad you said it, because for every one black family on welfare that three white families.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=600.14,604.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They have been trapped.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=605.45,605.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And the fact of the matter is that some of those ethnic groups that you have mentioned, whether you're Jews or Asians or others, make up those welfare. I mean, not all Asians are not on welfare. All Jews are not on welfare. The welfare or welfare system is a rainbow in the poor sense of the word no flexible ethnic group. But the point I do want make, Boyce, is this is simply is nobody on this panel would argue against people being independent, self-reliant, and people breaking the poverty trap, as you call it. The question is, how do we do it? And again, each of you gentlemen who come from the conservative posture offer the same very solutions. The liberals all I'll give you, you offer, you offer more. They care. You offer more money and time out. You say, So what the cost? What difference?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=606.44,652.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm going to offer you somebody else you said I'm going to offer you. Look, young man, you have gone around now and you have fathered four children out of wedlock. We don't want you fathering four more. It's time that you come in and get a grant and have a vasectomy. Now, that sounds cruel, but if they.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=652.89,671.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=672.29,672.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Want children, fine. Well, we have a boy. We have we have a woman in Washington who has given the government the expense of 14 children. Don't you think? At somewhere along the line she should have had her child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=672.44,685.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I have. I have a problem with with services. You see, I do not think that the government should get in that area. What we should do, say, when you have too many children, we're not giving you any more giving you any more money than the children say, Well, I don't care, then you don't care about our children. I don't know. That's not it. You just. What I'm saying is that in our system of welfare, whatever it be, whether that's reformed or not, we have to institute and get into the minds of people that they must be responsible for their actions. 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And, you know, I really have a serious problem when I hear you guys do this with a broad brush. You would include everybody on welfare?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=726.64,735.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, nothing that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=736.18,736.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Influences the inference is clear from people who watch this program. The assumption is that everybody on welfare is lazy. No, no, wait.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=738.37,745.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=746.08,746.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Way you gentlemen come up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=746.74,747.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Know what you do when you talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=747.85,750.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e About half of a sector? Me as the solution to the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=751.51,754.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a Don Reno solution. If you bothered to listen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=754.9,758.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e To is a foolish approach toward the problem. It is a complex problem. 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So you're a charter member.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=795.1,796.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Of the Excuse me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=796.93,797.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Excuse me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=798.7,799.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I tell you, you're an.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=799.69,800.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Excuse me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=800.95,801.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=801.53,801.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There's poverty is big business. Excuse me. Big business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=802.3,804.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Go ahead, Tony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=805.78,806.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I think as these people don't want to work. Most people get a lot of satisfaction from their work. Most of us, even if we didn't have to work, would work. You know, I don't think that's such an alien kind of thing. Most people don't want to be at home day after day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=806.61,818.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, there are so many mothers who run from the refrigerator to the sofa, and all they're interested in doing is watching the soap operas, not going to school with their children like they should be. 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Carl, you're real annoyed. I mean, you work during the break. Get it out and get it on the table.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=947.89,956.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Essentially, what I was saying to Tom is, you know, we called welfare foreign aid instead of welfare. Most people would have problems. I'd like to see Tom and Boris have much as much concern about the accountability where our dollars go, that we send billions of dollars overseas when nobody is will examine. We spend more money in foreign aid, frankly, and not know where those dollars go. 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All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=993.07,996.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm laughing about sending billions of dollars to Africa and South America and places like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=996.45,1001.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I just have not heard. 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She makes, they say, $500,000 or more a year. She is not married. She is pregnant. She's having a child out of wedlock. It is public knowledge in Boston. And this has created quite a stir. A role model, a leading anchor woman on television out of wedlock is having a child at times when, for instance, in Baltimore, we're the number one city with teenage mothers. How do you feel about it? Can she. Because she can afford it. Is it okay? It's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1005.36,1039.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. If you're going to have a child out of wedlock, it should be a person like this, walker because she can't afford it. But I have problems with that because it presents a bad role model for young people. Here you finance an extremely successful person, which people will emulate, particularly young ladies will emulate as well. It's all right with her, so why not? And I problem with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1039.71,1060.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, well, I think that's a lot of poppycock. The fact of the matter is, you take these people, you take this example, this one person who chose this woman to have a baby out of wedlock, that's her decision. It doesn't mean that everybody who happens to be born out of wedlock is somehow going to wind up being bad. No complications. Jesse Jackson, just as an example, a well-known person, most people may not realize he was a legitimate one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1061.76,1086.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Does that make it one of the one of the babies? It's not a question of a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1087.2,1093.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Repeat of last.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1093.11,1093.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Week. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1093.68,1093.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Got to get him finished.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1094.02,1094.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, in the final analysis, from a religious standpoint, it's God who has to determine what is legitimate and illegitimate, not the state. And the woman who chose to have this particular baby born out of wedlock and who can afford that. I think that's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1095.6,1109.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e One of the problems with our society today, is that we are too promiscuous. We need to reestablish the basic values and ethics of this country for our young people. And part of the problem we're having with young people today is because we do not stress values. 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Let's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1159.74,1161.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Not now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1161.96,1162.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There are lots of kids being raised in fear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1162.44,1163.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And there are a lot more problems in broken homes and women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1164.06,1166.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, there are. And I you know, I don't you know, and I'm very ambivalent about this. On the one hand, you know, I mean, we don't know this accident. We don't know if this is deliberate. And I certainly we don't have enough information to analyze this woman. It's not our business. 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But now, let me finish what I'm saying now. You know, I mean, essentially, as you said, she's she can afford this baby. She can afford this baby. And there are a number of women who are now making this decision. And I don't think we can throw stones at her. I wish, however, it would not have been so public for the very reason the very reason that boys brag about. No, she's not. She's not bragging about it, she say. 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So as I said, I'm real torn on this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1215.06,1218.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Johnny Carson son, Johnny Carson's son had a baby by a woman that was out of wedlock. I mean, I don't hear people going around saying, well, you know, Johnny Carson's son is a bad influence on society. 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The fact that he is the son of a public calling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1234.11,1238.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Card you should listen to my show on WFB are a little more often. I did make it a oh, yes, unplugged. I did make it a public issue on my show. And he is not a good role.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1239.27,1248.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you all. Did you suggest that he get a vasectomy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1248.45,1250.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e If he if he just two or three more? He only has one choice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1251.18,1254.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He gets four shots.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1254.93,1255.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e He should. Well, if listen, at some point, you ought to quit fathering children if you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1255.92,1260.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you know that you fathered four sons or he fathered forces? Do we have this paternity police that go around and track where the sperm went? I don't understand this. 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And the children look amazingly like their fathers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1303.32,1307.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But that isn't the point. The point is, is it good for our society to have this kind of thing going on? Is it a good role model? 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If they if that single parent can afford to rear the child is one thing, but this woman earns.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1343.37,1354.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e $500,000 a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1354.29,1355.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But there are problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1355.66,1356.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There's a relation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1357.89,1358.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Here. Yeah. Is that the bad role model presented for those people? And then too many people in our society that those marriages. One question, too many people in our society today are condoning such actions. And that's why we have a number one just born out of wedlock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1358.94,1377.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Just one simple question. If a woman chooses to have a baby and decides not to be with the spouse, does she have the baby? Is that her business?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1378.44,1385.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's our business. One, As long as she can support the young youngster, as long as she doesn't make a big public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1386.12,1394.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Time, you're.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1394.76,1395.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Fine. But I think what we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1395.18,1396.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Have many parents, many single parents do a wonderful job. But it's much better to have a father and mother role in the home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1396.32,1402.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I think one of the things we have to underline is I think it's very different from a 15 or 16 year old mother versus a third.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1402.65,1407.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Mother who.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1407.99,1408.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Is obstructive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981#t=1409.43,1409.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118480/file/222981/transcript/62957/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. 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