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We're live on City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie Hall. And I'm Betty Bentley. More and more people have stopped eating red meat. Can you imagine life without a steak, a hamburger or a roast? Who are these people? And what do they eat instead of me? They're vegetarians. And our guests will discuss the benefits and hazards of vegetarianism in macrobiotic. Assessing the state of black Jewish relationships here in Baltimore. Just how strong are the bonds? I'm t Martin, and I'll have that report. Hi, I'm Harold Anthony, and on today's edition of the Entertainment page, I'll expose Jenny Burton's bad habits, interview Billy Dee Williams, and show you a list of activities happening all around town during this festive Easter holiday. Joining us today will be Dr. John Chazelle and Murray Snider from the East West Macrobiotic Foundation. Vegetarianism, its peas and carrots. Next live on City Line. Good afternoon and thank you for joining us on this Easter Sunday for City Lines. Oh, yes. We hope that you're enjoying every moment of this beautiful day. Of course, we extend holiday wishes to everyone out there. Our son today is vegetarianism. And with us today is Dr. John Gazelle was a physician here in Baltimore. And we'd like to thank you for being with us on this holiday Sunday. Thank you for inviting me. Why is it that all of a sudden vegetarianism has become the end thing? What it's not. All of a sudden, as long as man has been on the planet, man and woman have been on the planet, the vegetarian diet has been the way. And since this is a Christian holiday, Easter, if we go back to the Christian religion, you can look not very far into the Bible. The first book, Genesis 129 and 32.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=33.04,171.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is an instruction to follow a vegetarian diet, so it's not new. So then how did we get into eating red meat? I mean, most people in this country in particular have been eating red meat most of their life. I think it's a result of a very good advertising campaign by the meat industry that keeps the persistence of eating meat in. There is no question now from just about all of the scientific studies that the inclusion of animal products in the diet is detrimental to our health. So there isn't much argument about this. Back in 1977, a Senate Select Committee on Nutrition studied this, and in their first report, there was so much danger in animal products that they recommended that we cut these down. They still yielded to the lab, but they said cut them down because of the dangers. Well, if something is dangerous enough for you to cut it down, why not cut it out? So evidently we have bought the campaigns then, is what you're really. Yes. And it's reinforced every day. And all of the media, newspapers, magazines, radio, television is continually reinforced. Now, let me ask you, I have friends who have given up meat, red meat and pork, but they still eat chicken and they eat fish. Is that a vegetarian? And if it is, and why not? What is it? But what is vegetarianism and what isn't in a vegetarian is a person that does not eat any animal products at all. Okay. And if fish and poultry are considered animal products because they come from those. Now, it doesn't exclude living things because they do eat plants and plants, all living things. Life foods are very helpful, but the animal products are the dangerous ones so that someone who eats fish and chicken.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=172.1,278.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Is not considered a vegetarian? No, they are not vegetarians and they are vegetarians who still eat eggs and still eat dairy products. They are called lacto ovo, vegetarians, lacto for dairy and OVO for eggs. But a vegetarian is some people called vegans vigor in and they don't eat any animal products at all. Is there something particularly about meat as opposed to something like red meat that is as opposed to fish or poultry that is worse than those forms of animal? Well, generally red meat has more fat in it than does fish. Poultry has a lot of fat, particularly on the skin, and particularly the kinds of poultry that have been treated with chemicals to make them have very large breasts, oven stuffers and whatnot, because these are artificial forms of growth, then there are a lot of contaminants that that fish and chicken both consume. And I think the best way for people to really find out what is best for them is to trust their own individual feelings. If they would just listen to their bodies, then they would be able to give these things up for health reasons, not for moral reasons, not for economic reasons, but for health. And I suppose there is someone out there who says, Oh, I love a cheeseburger, I love a cheeseburger, and there's nobody is going to make me stop eating cheeseburgers. And they don't hear anything in the body. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with it is that they are hastening their death and they are interfering with the quality of the life that the creator programed into us. There are some people who love Cigarets and nobody's going to make them. Give them some people who love whiskey and nobody's going to make them give that up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=278.81,381.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But just because they love it, that does not mean that we have to tell them that that's okay. It's true. It is their body. They have dominion over their body. But we have to remember that we live with the consequences of our decisions. Okay. We're going to continue our discussion in just a minute. And I'm going to keep pushing for fish and the vegetarian. We'll be back right back. Stay with us. But. And. We're back and we're talking about vegetarianism. And this is all a part of our health week here and month over month here on satellite. And we've been joined now by Murray Snyder, who is with the East West Macrobiotics Foundation. What is macrobiotics? I must start there, but of course, thank you. The word macrobiotics means great life. And it has been used down through the ages by many, many hypocrisies. Use the word who is the father of Western medicine? Many Oriental physicians and philosophers have used it in a lot of the ancient physicians in the Middle East have also used it. And when the word is used, it was always used to indicate a healthy and long life. And so it was used to those that were following macrobiotics were ones that were enhancing their health and prolonging their life. What are the tenets of a macrobiotic philosophy in terms of diet? Well, basically, macrobiotic diet is a vegetarian type of diet. It is a diet that is reflected, first of all, on the climate and environment where people live. So where we would differ, for example, would be in the Yukon or Alaska or the cold polar regions. It would be natural for those people there to eat meat and animal food. They could maintain their health and, you know, subsist on those foods there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=382.28,582.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But in the tempered regions, tropical subtropical regions, we agree that meat eating and any red blooded animal food is unnecessary and is in fact harmful. So we're basically prescribing a diet consisting of whole grains, beans, fresh seasonal vegetables, fresh seasonal fruits and other natural foodstuffs that are, you know, grown according to the climate in which which one is living. There is a lot of questions in my mind, but we want to give our viewers at home a chance to call in at 481 1313 to ask questions on the subject. We'd also like to hear from our audience. Yes, ma'am. My question is to Dr. Chazelle, I'd like to know is why is Meat one of the four food groups, if meat is very detrimental for the next time you see a poster with the four basic food groups, look down in the bottom corn in very fine print and you will see that it's either printed by the meat industry or the dairy Council, and that's how that's persistent. Basic for food groups have persisted with meat and dairy products because the meat industry and the dairy industry print most of this material. And that goes not only out to the public, but it goes into medical schools and schools of nutrition. Also, I was exposed to it when I was in medical school now. So so in other words, what you're doing as of this moment, even though you've probably practiced it for a very long time, is not in everything that we have learned up to this point. Well, you could say knocking what I'm doing is advocating optimal health. So you're looking for everything that we've learned. We were told to eat one from each basic food. Yes, we were always told that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=583.15,683.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I was told that also. And I did that. You know, I am a reformed meat eater. Sugar eater, fish eater, seafood eater. I ate all of those things and I was ruining my health very rapidly. And I decided that it was time to change. And if I made a decision that if the habits that I had were ruining my health and I should be smart enough to change, particularly since I was in the health care business, the the diet that we're recommending now, vegetarian macrobiotic type diet that is becoming very popular now is also being supported in a very unusual way by the American Cancer Society, the American Diabetic Association, Heart Association. These groups, after 25 years of advocating basically a meat based diet, have all changed their nutritional recommendations to include whole grains as the staple and also as the main food, fresh vegetables and decreasing fats and refined foods from the diet. What what has made them make that change is 25 to 30 years of evidence us and our degenerating health. Heart disease. Cancer. Except where it's one of the problems does meat and animal flesh cause? Well, we're talking about when you're eating meat. You know, it's very interesting. The word meat originally meant meal. I've given you every herb bearing seed for you, which will be your meat. That meant the meal. We use it to cover up what it really is, which is flesh. Meat is flesh. When when you kill something, it decomposes. When you eat that, it is decomposing in you. So that's very gruesome. But I think we're all going to see that's the point that the doctor is making and that we're, you know, that we're making. And the fact is that we're eating foods that are in fact, they may taste great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=683.65,791.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't give up meat because it didn't taste good. I haven't touched meat in seven. In ten years. But it wasn't because I didn't like it. It was because I discovered something that enhanced and gave me much greater benefits than 20 minutes of pleasure at the dinner table. We're going to talk about those benefits a little bit later on as well. But let's bring our whole audience in. Hi, you're on City Line. Yes. My question is, I just like to say how glad I am that you finally put a program on the air as far as the macrobiotic diet, because one day I hear this whole I at a party and that we gave you tofu lasagna. You did some say ten meat and the whole thing is on a positive, uplifting spirit. Whereas with meat eaters they tend to be and I'm not putting this one all mediated, but they do tend to be aggressive, they tend to be very hostile. Whereas macrobiotics is more of a combative. Well, I mean, what a great information, by the way. And it was delightful for the comment. Do you want to respond to her at all? Well, what I'd like to emphasize over and over to your audience is that the one final authority with regard to your personal health is how you feel on the inside. And if you give up some of these things like the meat and a dairy product long enough for them to clear your system, your own body will tell you that this is the best thing for you. You won't need some authority to come in and say, do this because I said so. If we did everything because people said so, you know, then we would have big problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=791.8,876.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But we can't actually say that people who eat meat are the only hostile people, and people who don't eat meat either can't, of course, say it that way, but we can make some observations. And people that eat a lot of animal food, refined food and refined sugars, definitely. If you study their culture, you will find a higher incidence in aggression and violent acts. And this is now also being worked out at prisons. When they've taken prisoners off of sugar and refined sweets, they have noticed that their level of violence and violent acts has decreased substantially and this information has been around for 20 or 30 years and the prisons haven't done anything about it. Got another question from our audience. Yes, ma'am. I have a question for self. Yes. Most of the vegetarian diets than I've seen require you to eat a lot of high calorie nuts and beans for your protein needs. And I was wondering if there was something you could suggest for a protein that's low calorie. Yes. Well, there's a myth that you can't get protein from most of the plant foods because almost all plant foods have some protein. The other myth is that we are recommended by the meat industry to have far more protein than our body actually needs. We'll need one or two ounces of high quality protein at most. And most people, if they're not very active, can get by on less than that. So you can switch to brown rice to potatoes. Unless you have arthritis, potatoes can give you a problem, but brown rice, potatoes, spaghetti made from whole wheat or spinach, you know, the pastas that should be the center of your diet to replace the meat that you're used to and then add your green vegetables and some fruit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=877.39,973.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One other point about that is that probably the best weight reducing diet that I'm aware of is eating a vegetarian type of macrobiotic diet. The myth is, is that most of the foods that conventional people are eating, the refined food is as fattening as fats, like sugar and sugar laden foods is very fattening because it changes the fat in the body. If one just eats a very wholesome, whole grain vegetable based diet without dieting, they will lose weight. But of course, if one is going to eat any pounds of nuts a day, yes, that can be very fattening. And I think everyone would agree on that. Thank you for my question. And the answers were really good. When we come back, we want to talk about the dangers to the various diets and what people may do that's wrong in approaching these new philosophies and also the benefits which you've been touching on. But we want to kind of focus on that. And we continue to ask you to call us here at 41, 13, 13 so that we can get your questions and comments. We'll take a break and come right back. I. Now, here's this week's community calendar. Hello, my name is Carolyn Jacoby. I represent the Howard County chapter of the National Political Congress of Black Women. We are sponsoring Las Vegas night on Saturday, April 27, at Columbia's Wild Lake Slayton House beginning at 9 p.m.. Com and enjoy a buffet dinner games and live entertainment as well as many exciting people. Portions of the proceeds will benefit the National Children's Defense Fund. For further information, call 9641338. Hello, my name is June Carrington Allen, representing the Dunbar High School class of 1965. The class of 65 is here to say Come and join us in a fun day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=974.86,1238.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Treats and eats and mystery feeds. So join us. We certainly do hope we'll meet at our Funland Carnival showcase to benefit the Dunbar High School Scholarship Drive, Saturday, April 2/20, at the Oliver Center from 5 to 9 p.m.. For further information, call 4441040. Thank you. If your group or organization would like to announce an event, please write us in care of City Line. WJC TV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland 212, one, one. Or call us for further information at 46600013. Between the hours of nine and five. We're back live on the city line where I'm waging a losing battle on the merits of seafood in the diet. Dr. Jones, as well. The terms of your health, you're waging a winning battle. Are you going to be converted to bitter? Okay. Well, of course. And Mary Snider, you know, we talk about vegetarianism. A lot of people are concerned about eating the same thing all the time. That's not really a problem, is it? No, there's quite a variety. Eating a macrobiotic vegetarian type died. In fact, there's probably more variety eating grains, vegetables and the various possibilities than the conventional diet. I think that for many people, just because it's unfamiliar with them, it leads them to believe that we're talking about, you know, eating one or two things, like there's people that think that eating, being macrobiotic is eating just brown rice. When we're talking about all the grains, all the beans, all the vegetables, I had vegetables now that I never even knew existed, you know, when I was 20 years old. The variety of cooking styles and the different seasons, all giving forth different types of foods offers a tremendous variety. And two of the foods that our friend who called in mentioned like tofu and seitan, which is made from whole wheat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=1239.06,1388.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Those kinds of food add various kinds of textures and flavors that, you know, are very unique to a vegetarian type. They're very versatile, too. Exactly. Yes. Let's bring our home audience in again. Hi, you're on City Line. Hi. I would like to know how safe it is. You know, vegetarian diet for Pretty Woman. I've been eating meat for nearly 27 years, and should I wait until the baby is born before I, you know, attempt to start such a diet? I'm so glad you call because you have an opportunity to start your baby out with a much healthier lifestyle than the average child is going to be born. If you stop eating the meat immediately and stop eating the dairy products immediately, the breast milk that you're going to give this baby and I hope you're going to breastfeed, this baby will be much less likely to have any contaminants at all in it. They have studied the breast milk in in what they call breast milk banks, and they've had to discard as much as 20% because of pesticides like DDT and whatnot that are found in the mother's milk because of the dairy products and the meat that they have been eating. So if you would switch to a vegetarian diet now, then your baby would be much healthier. If you would nurse that baby for at least a year, that baby would have antibodies and a running headstart or optimal health that most children don't get. CALLER, stay on for just a moment. What what, though, would you advise her in terms of being sure that she does get the proper nutrients that would make a healthy baby, that that is with a mother who is turning into a vegetarian, Like we said, the pastas, potatoes, the vegetables, just about any of the vegetables.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=1388.99,1499.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What about it? My doctors recommend that I eat it. No, I would stay away from eggs because the eggs are contaminated now also. And the eggs, milk and eggs are probably the most frequent causes of allergies. And if you nurse your baby and you've been eating all of these eggs, your baby is much less, much more likely to have colic and gastrointestinal problems and some respiratory problems. Also, there is evidence increasingly apparent now that the incidence of crib deaths, sudden infant death syndrome, is more prevalent in babies who are fed cows, milk cows, milk products of products with eggs. And I'd also like to introduce two other foods that are very helpful. One is soy products because of the good quality protein and also C vegetables, which is has ten times more calcium than cows, milk per 100 grams. And there's probably in the last ten years in the United States, three or 4000 babies born to macrobiotic, parents that have not relied on animal products or dairy food to bring their children off. Thank you. CALLER And happy and healthy baby to you. Thank you very much. Let's take a question from our audience. Yes, ma'am. Yes, This is for Dr. Giselle. For someone who is considering becoming a vegetarian, would you recommend that they just stop eating all meat and dairy products or should it be a gradual weaning away process? And what effect does that have on the body? The quicker you do it, the quicker you get the benefits. I made a mistake once. Someone asked me once how long it took me to go from all of the bad things I used to eat to a total vegetarian diet. And I told him the truth, which was three years from Smithfield Ham to no meat at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=1500.41,1603.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so the word got out that it takes that. And that's absolutely not true. If I knew then what I know now, I would have done it perhaps in three days. The precaution I would give you, though, is if you're on a diet that's high in meat and dairy products and you have any illness. And you're taking medications like medications for diabetes, medications for arthritis, medications for high blood pressure. Then you should consult your physician because as you convert your diet over, you're going to need less and less of those medications. And the side effects of those medications will become much more apparent as you begin to eliminate some of these toxins, toxins from your body. You know, many people think it's radical to make a radical shift, right. Overnight meat and sugar, etc.. It's much more radical on your body to eat meat. You continue to do it and you're doing means and vegetables. And it's you know, somebody once made a joke in one of the magazines on on nutrition. And it said if our forefathers came back to this country, they were mentioning like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, etc., came to this country and went shopping in a supermarket, they wouldn't know where they were because the foods that are there now are fad foods. I mean, you know, Twinkies and Coca-Cola is not a staple tradition. That's a fad food to call brown rice and whole wheat and beans. Fad foods or natural foods as a fad is really ludicrous. I mean, this is staple foods that have been on this planet for thousands of years. So it's not radical at all to make a shift overnight. But please, I urge you to really learn what you're doing. Learn how to prepare the food correctly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=1604.45,1700.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Really learn basic nutrition in a commonsense way at home. And then you can feed your whole family very healthy. Thank you for your question. And it really isn't difficult if you look at what we do in the summertime when the weather gets very hot and then most people shift over toward vegetarian diets, eating salads, eating fruit, they're eating melons and they don't where they feel better. And that's why they don't eat the, you know, the broiled meats and whatnot. You know, they still go out to the barbecue grill. But if you go out to the barbecue grill, remember that, for instance, if you broil a steak and I like to emphasize this because I used to love steaks and I used to bring them all the time. But when scientists are trying to give cancer to laboratory animals, one of the things they use is a chemical called benzo. PERRY And you can get 600 times as much benzo power in in a £1 broiler steak as you can in Cigarets. Okay. Let's bring in another caller from home. Hi, you're on City Line live. My question is for Dr. Chazelle. I'd like to have him discuss the properties of bee pollen as a as a dietary supplement for vegetarians and others. Thank you. Bee pollen is a supplement that's been shown to have some nutritional value. And it's also been shown to increase some of the energy that's available for the body. But the basic premise always anything that you eat on a regular basis is your diet, whether you want to call it a diet or not. So the thing to do is to learn what foods to eat every day, which will require the fewest amount of supplements. Okay. We're going to continue this discussion and have a lot more questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=1701.08,1801.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm still fine. We'll be back in just a minute. Stay with us. A subject today is vegetarianism. It's the first week in our month long segment on health and beauty that we're discussing here on City Line. I'd like to get back to Dr. Chazelle and Mari Snyder about vegetarianism and macrobiotics. After a while, does it become a way of life, a lifestyle? That's the key word. Lifestyle change is the key to improving your health. If you have something in your lifestyle that's a detriment to your health, then it's your responsibility to change it. You know, we are responsible for our health, each as an individual. As a professional, I'm responsible for health care. But our individual health is our own responsibility. So we have to to study and get the information we need to really make these lifestyle changes in an intelligent manner. I've never underestimate the ability of your body to tell you when you're feeling better. But what what else then, changes when one decides to change the way they relate to food and consume food? Well, what else Change many things. One is we recommend that everyone really begin their practice of macrobiotics. By self-reflection and by self-reflection, we mean on their whole way of living. For example, other than diet number one, the kind of clothes they wear, what quality are they? What what kind of vibration comes from them? Their house? What's in the house, What kind of gadgets? What kind of using a microwave oven? Are they using electricity? Are they using gas? Their activity and their exercise. Exercise is very important. Most people don't get enough because of sedentary lifestyles. Well, how how are they going to incorporate exercise and activity? Their general attitude? Are they are they negative? Are they positive? And if so, if they're negative, why? What's causing that? What's causing stress that makes people uptight when that same stress in some other person might be the means to induce a great creative outburst? So it's really taking a look at the whole way of life and seeing is my goal here to be a happy, healthy, productive human being? Or am I just seeking like something like fame, fortune, you know, and then making a, you know, a choice based on that kind of perspective, which is a why are there not more doctors saying you need to take meat out of your diet and concentrate more on vegetation? Because doctors are human beings like everybody else and they respond to what they hear most, you believe what you see and you have a tendency after your belief system gets entrenched, you know, to see what you believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=1801.76,2067.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the the information that we've been giving you has been out for years and years. And, you know, I wish I had been smart enough just to do it because I was smart rather than because I got a health crisis, you know. But most people who get the health crisis will then look for something better. And what we are trying to say, I think Bill and I both are trying to say is don't wait until something goes wrong to do it. Do it because you love yourself enough to want to be a better person. Totally. How how many years do you think a vegetarian or one who is macrobiotic and philosophy adds on to the life span by going the route that you're suggesting? Nobody really knows because we don't know what the optimal lifespan is. What do you what would you. I would guesstimate that if we look at the rest of the creatures in nature, if we eat food for optimal health and we exercise optimally and we had a positive attitude, I'm sure that we could get to be 120, 140 functioning with no problems at all. All of the other creatures in nature live to be at seven times age of maturity. 1721 would give you 104. What would we avoid if we adopted your attitudes? And we would have to avoid things that are counterproductive to a healthy way of life. This would mean the refinement of any kind of natural substance. To expedite it, we'd have to look at technology and say, It's wonderful that we can produce things. But is the net result of that technology counterproductive to our health in the long run, or are we just using it for short term use? This is like nuclear energy and microwaves and things like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=2068.71,2162.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The long run use of those things is negative. And so if we can make those decisions and then use technology, then we can increase the whole civilization's benefits. One quick question we're almost out of time. Is changing the diet something that anyone can do? I'm talking about across the socioeconomic ladder. Can anybody just decide that they want to? Not only can you do it, you have an obligation to make any change that will improve your health, lifestyle, your ability to relate to your fellow human beings. The only thing I would add to that is that anyone who is going to do this, please become well-informed. Read as much as possible. Seek out those who are or who have more experience than you. And as Dr. Chazelle has mentioned over and over again, pay attention to yourself. Listen. Okay. Well, look, we've getting this month off to a great start by talking about vegetarianism with Dr. John Chazelle and Murray Snyder. We thank you both for having come. I'm going to reexamine my. Up there with the cheeseburger. I'm going to take a break and come right back. Thank you both. Thank you. And. Good afternoon. Topping today's newscast today is Easter Sunday, a time of holy reflection throughout the world. For the Jewish community, it's a time for celebrating Passover. But what about black Jewish relationships here in Baltimore? Just how strong are those bonds? Just how real is the celebration of a common struggle? Joining me now to discuss this topic is Reverend Douglas Miles, president of the Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance and a key participant in a unique gathering of blacks and Jews here in the city. Reverend Miles, thank you for joining us this afternoon. Thank you for inviting me. We have often heard conversation of the traditional alliances between blacks and Jews in America.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=2162.61,2360.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But let's talk about Baltimore specifically. When we talk about black Jewish alliances because of the common struggle. How much of that is rhetoric and how much of that is really real? Well, to really respond to that, one has to think in terms of the history of black Jewish relationships here in Baltimore. Bonds were relatively strong throughout the civil rights struggle around the end of the sixties because of the riots and charges and countercharges coming out of both communities. The communities seemed to go in separate directions. But here recently, in the past three or four years, concerted efforts have been made to rebuild those bonds through such organizations as blues, that blacks and Jews, through the efforts of the Interdenominational Ministerial alliance and various of the Jewish associations throughout the city, most specifically the Baltimore Jewish Council. How relevant, Reverend Miles, is it to talk about black Jewish relationships today? It's a real relevant situation today with the rise of Reaganism and the reelection of the president. There's also been a rise of racism and anti-Semitism throughout this nation. And again, blacks and Jews are recognizing the commonality of the struggle that that we face, the fact that when any one group is singled out for discrimination and and for racism, it affects all the various minorities of this country. And again, in recognizing the commonality of our struggle, our history together in combating anti-Semitism and also racism, it's I breathe new life into the alliances of the two communities. Reverend Miles, as I said earlier, you are a key participant in a unique gathering of blacks and Jews that will take place tomorrow, Monday here in the city. And you were also a key participant last year that that gathering is a day. Tell us a little bit about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=2361.94,2476.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, it's a community wide seat that's lit. Last year was sponsored exclusively by the New Jewish Agenda. This year, it's under the sponsorship and leadership of the New Jewish Agenda, but also the Brown's Memorial Church, which I pastor is sharing in it. Also, the Northwest Baltimore Corporation and the Park High Street Academy. It's an effort to bring blacks into the Jewish community at a time of the celebration of the Passover, to discover the basis of the Passover, the meaning of it in the Jewish community, and to also do this, to discover, again, rediscover the commonality of our struggle, because both people have experienced slavery. We come out of a common experience in that regard. And also, since both people have have endured struggle within this society, that's another area where we share a commonality. One very significant aspect of the sader that happens tomorrow is that it represents the second time, the second largest gathering of blacks and Jews here in Baltimore City in the past 15 years. Yes, that's true. And what's even more significant is that it's not just a select kind of gathering, but there's a cross-section of the Baltimore community represented. Last year, we had politicians and schoolteachers and lawyers and laborers all sitting together at various tables throughout the state. And we envision the same kind of I've seen it this year in celebration of the past. Briefly, Reverend Miles, when will that be held? It'll be held at the Baltimore Hebrew Congregation in the 7400 block of Park Avenue. Persons who might be interested in sharing in that. I'll say it again. I've called the Baltimore Hebrew Congregation all the Browns Memorial Baptist Church and get details as to how one can participate. Okay. Thank you very much for joining us this afternoon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=2477.23,2584.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you for having me, Reverend Douglas Miles, president of the Interdenominational Ministerial Alliance. In other news, a House panel has passed a provision authored by Congressman William Gray of Pennsylvania. That provision would require the Agency for International Development to direct at least 10% of its fiscal year. 1986 funds about $105 million to minority and women business persons, historically black colleges and minority private volunteer agencies. The measure was approved by the House Foreign Affairs Committee as part of the 1986 Foreign Aid Authorization bill. A cholera outbreak has killed 1000 people. In northwestern Somalia Over the past ten days, the League of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies report some 300,000 people in the region are at risk from the disease. The Somali health ministry says that over 2600 cases of the disease has been reported since April the first in a rare legal demonstration against apartheid. Church leaders in Durban, South Africa, headed a 300 strong possession through the city Friday to a prison where 16 dissidents accused of treason are being held. The 16 jailed anti-apartheid leaders include two of the three presidents of the United Democratic Front and anti-apartheid umbrella group, leaders of the UDS affiliates and trade unionists. And finally, Yoko, an outstanding 12th grader at Perry Hall High School, is Cityline student of the Week. Yanko is ranked fifth in his class of 400 students and was selected by the Maryland State Scholarship Board to participate in its Distinguished Scholar program. Young as a member of the National Honor Society and the Executive Student Council Board. Along with taking all honors and advanced courses. He is captain of the chess team and a member of both its academic club and Asian American Club. Congratulations and best wishes to young Ko Cityline, Student of the Week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=2584.69,2695.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is today's news cap Anti-monitor. Happy Easter. Have a good day. Hi, I'm Harold Anthony, and on today's edition of the Entertainment page, my featured artist is a vocalist who followed a gut feeling about her possibilities as an entertainer. And now it's paying off in pure gold. Her name is Jenny Burton, and her road to stardom was indeed a long one. As a matter of fact, Jenny has been quoted as saying, getting to this point has challenged every bit of stick to itiveness I've ever had. Jenny was born in New York City and raised as a foster child between the ages of 18 months and 18 years of age. She was shuffled between various foster homes all around the city, around the age of eight. Jenny took an interest in singing, but not on a serious level. She mainly sang gospel music in churches throughout New York. After many years as a gospel singer, Jenny felt that it was time to move on. And even though she put her singing on the back burner, Jenny stayed near the music business by working odd jobs for various record companies. It was while she was working as a receptionist for Bell Records that she got her long awaited break. She volunteered to stand in for a female vocalist who had taken ill. And it was then that the company executives realized that they had struck gold in their own back yard. Since then, Jenny has several hits to her credit that include a stranger in a strange world from the Motion Picture Beat Street. And she was the lead vocalist on Cee Bang smash hit called One More Shot. One thing is certain In a life full of uncertainties, now that she's arrived, there's no stopping her now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=2696.14,2931.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Here's Jenny Martin with bad habit. It's 2 a.m.. It's. It's. To be alone now. I should. What you put me through. There's no reason for me to talk to you. What else could make me feel the way you do? That's to say more. But my heart is to tell you you've been doing me wrong ever since I let you in. That thrills me to know if I've got. Dad, this baby is ready to baby to. And baby. You too, baby. He was head to toe. It's a maybe for you for now. I can't take no more. That you were her manager came to take you home with. All along. I've got lots. David. They. A bad habit that I don't want to lose the love you may. But how is it so common? I never know what to expect, you know. That was Jenny Burton telling us about her bad habit. You know, that brings to mind a couple of my neighbors. They, too, have a bad habit. You see, they lose all self-control whenever they see Billy Dee Williams. I ask myself, what makes Billy Dee such a heartthrob? How does he exude so much sex appeal? And majorly, how could he teach me to do it? All of these questions were all on my mind. So when I met Billy recently, I decided to ask him about his career, his feelings about himself, and how he feels about women. Mark Marker and Billy, about that character you play. Billy Diamond an interesting guy. He's a he's a he's got a lot of style, A lot of class. Uh, he's a thief. Yeah. Uh, who, uh, through no great effort of his own, besides ends up working for the, uh, the law. The law who befriends a character that can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=2932.29,3195.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wallace playing the can Cisco. And they make this they make up for a dynamic duo. Really, once again, you are cast as a character that I would define as a very handsome, roguish type of ladies man. Do you like that character? Is he a lot like you? Yeah, I love it. You're kidding. No, I mean, I like it because I think. I don't know, I kind of like it, but I'm basically a character actor. And again, you know, even though I'm playing a kind of a romantic adventurer, uh, I still have the opportunity to play characters, you know, because, you know, we get into all kinds of situations where we have to disguise ourselves and things of that nature. But it's all very funny, tongue in cheek, you know? I'm surprised that you consider yourself a character actor. Don't you consider yourself handsome? Yeah, I guess I'm pretty cute. But, I mean, I started out as a character actor and I started out doing the New York stage, and that's how I've developed over the years. But, I mean, you can be handsome and be a character actor, I think. Really, women all over the world are easily attracted to you. How do you feel about women? I like women very much. You know, I was raised by, you know, of course, there was my dad, but I mean, I was raised by my mother and my sister and my grandmother. And I was spoiled rotten like all of them. And so certainly my mother is is quite instrumental in my point of view about women. I mean, I love women to to a fault, really. Sometimes I can't stand to be around them all the time, you know. But I so I'm sure the women can't stand to be around men all the time, you know? I mean, I'm also a man that likes to be around men.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=3195.81,3303.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I mean, I like male camaraderie, but I love the beauty and the softness of. And I love the intelligence of them and I love the awareness of them. And I love and I like women who are nice people, but I like anybody who's a nice person. But I like women that's very much smarter. And. Actually, this one is very elegant, yet not ostentatious. It looks cheap. I think you probably want to go see the government. I want to see Xerox. A real class actor and the newest star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Billy Dee Williams. Hey, listen, if you're looking for something to do during this Easter holiday, you're in a great place because Baltimore will be bursting with the pageantry of the season as a colorful spectrum of parties, parades, egg hunts and springtime entertainment takes place throughout the city. For instance, on April 8th, there will be an Easter egg hunt on the North Harford Playfield at 11 a.m.. Also on the eighth at 7 p.m. there, there'll be an Easter Monday fashion show at Hamilton Recreation Center. While on the 12th there will be an Easter disco party from 5 to 9 p.m. at the Webster m Kendricks Recreation Center. As a matter of fact, there are so many different events happening on or around April 8th that it would be difficult for me to tell you about them all. But if you're looking for activities in your neighborhood, you can call the Mayor's Office of Promotion and Tourism at 8374636. And to wrap things up, I want to remind you that the original Dreamgirl, Jennifer Holliday, will be in town for a limited engagement when she appears at the Lyric Opera House, starring in George Faisons production of Sing Mahalia Sing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152#t=3304.32,3412.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105474/file/206152/transcript/48877/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, you'll only be able to enjoy the musical power and majesty of this incomparable production between April 9th and April 14th. So get your tickets now. For further information, call the Lyric Theater at 6855086. And while I'm on the subject, I want to remind you to tune in to next week's show, because I'll be interviewing guests that star and sing Mahalia saying, Well, once again, it's time to wrap it up for another week. I'm Howard Anthony. Wishing you all a happy Easter. Thank you, Howard, and thank all of you for being here with us today. We'd like to remind those folks that if you're interested in vegetarianism or getting into a macrobiotic type of lifestyle, there are several numbers you can call. But we've got an address we want to show you. Give them a call. Find out a little bit about it. You might find that your life changes for the better. Indeed. So you can follow up by noting this address and of course, calling the number. Right. What about next week, Our second edition in our Health and Fitness Month on City Line. We will be talking about dermatology and we'll have a dermatologist on with us to discuss some of the problems that one might have and offer solutions on resolving those. Right. And we'll also have a very special guest in the person of Mr. Kurt Schmoke, who's our city state attorney. Kurt will be here to tell us a little bit about his midterm celebration. Thanks again for being with us. I'm Betty Bentley. I'm Jackie Hall. Have a good, good Easter. 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