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And one of the big stories in the news this week, Bernard gets acquitted of all major charges stemming from the shooting of four black youths in a New York subway. Tonight on Square off, we ask your opinion about jets getting off. Bob, share an.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=79.84,93.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Excellent, excellent verdict.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=93.94,94.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Elaine Stein I'm glad to see that victim get rights, but get has gotten whatever the grammar is. I'm glad to see a victim get rights, but I have a lot to say on this subject, Jonathan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=95.53,105.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e If he were if the whole situation with it, everyone wore the same color, I would agree. I cannot agree. Racism is too prevalent in this society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=106.81,114.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=114.82,115.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Writes, Yeah, the only problem with Getz is he ran out of bullets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=115.96,118.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Gets gets off another other subjects in the news tonight as we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=118.96,122.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Square off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=122.98,123.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When we were. Good evening, everyone. On the set. What were you, please? It is Saturday night. It is 730. I'm Richard Cher. Welcome to Squirrel. Jan and Elaine are talking. They're concerned. Before we get to Bernard gets about this Tamar left of Baltimore who announced at the conference on AIDS that she's carrying the AIDS virus. She has been banned now from the Pikesville Beauty Shop, where she goes for manicures and haircuts. And you are all upset about this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=133.47,156.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What's the problem? Well, first of all, I think the woman is very courageous to announce that she does have AIDS. We're not talking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=157.17,162.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Virus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=162.96,162.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The virus. We're not talking about something like the measles or chickenpox, which you can catch and then we'll go away. We're talking about a deadly disease. And I must say this I love my beauty shop. I would give up my car before my beauty shop. Absolutely. And I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=163.5,176.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Just saying much, with all due respect. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=177.19,178.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What else? I give up. I mean, I would give up a lot of things because of my beauty shop. But I will say this, and I think that a lot of women that are listening will agree with me and Jan, you will too. Beauty shops are not that fastidious. I am sorry to say that we do have laws in Maryland, but how many people listening know what it is to go to a shop and somebody will say, Where is my brush? Who has my brush? And then from any place in the shop, somebody comes over with a hairbrush. What about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=179.34,205.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That? They don't even bother. If you have your own brush and you are the beautician use, don't bother to wash or clean any of those utensils before you go to the store.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=206.39,215.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e This woman be barred because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=215.46,216.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e She should stay away on her own. And I tell you something else. A manicure can be for some of us, a very dangerous thing. For instance, I have an artificial heart valve. If I get an infection, it's a very serious thing. If I have a cut on my finger, if the slippers or something is cut, you know what happens with the cut, you know, So it can be a very serious it is a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=217.48,236.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Very, very sad situation. That's the only word I can use. However, however, if you own this beauty shop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=236.19,241.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I would not want her there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=241.92,243.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I wouldn't want her there either. Because number one. Oh, the whole the whole I want number one. She was very courageous. She and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=243.3,248.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That she.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=248.67,249.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Gave her name, she gave testimony. But I mean if other customers of that beauty shop know that she goes there, they were going to lose business. Here's the point, Richard. I think we're dealing with a subject now that has created hysteria in the community. And I think you're not only going to see beauty shops, you're going to see all kinds of businesses say, to AIDS carriers and AIDS patients, stay out of here. That's right. Because no matter what the health officials say, legal. Well, I don't know if it's legal, but you're going to have people saying you're not welcome here. I think it's legal. And and it's unfortunate. I don't know how else to say it. It is unfortunate. I feel sorry for this woman. I feel sorry for people that have this. But can you blame the owner, the proprietor you tell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=249.21,288.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And can you blame people? People are afraid of this disease. Why? Because it will kill you. It is not as if you going to get over it. 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We will see if.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=296.7,310.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They take the same utensils there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=311.01,312.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's get back to that, because I know if you get that off your chest and we will talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=312.54,316.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It off, you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=316.62,317.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Talk about we get you talking about that. We want to talk about Bernard Getz. And he and Ken, you made the point. Now here is a white guy who shoots four black kids. And you're suggesting, I guess in your opening comment that had they been white and he had been black, it would have turned out different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=317.68,332.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly. I really feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=332.63,333.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Also I will say this, if everybody had been the same color in that situation, I would have been comfortable with this verdict. However, I will tell you, if you just wait. The reason that I cannot do that is because racism is so prevalent in this society, as everybody sitting here knows. It is woven into everything that we do. 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They found sharpened screwdrivers on the way all over again, but they weren't on their way to repair electrical outlets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=400.89,406.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Bernard Getz did not know that he was sitting there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=406.86,409.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=409.71,409.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sorry. I did not know what lay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=410.13,411.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And I can't I cannot agree with you that he didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=411.6,413.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=414.0,414.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e When he was confronted when he was confronted by these young men for money in a threatening mood, the apparent threat triggered his response. Well, it was not a question of color, but what he was actually disagreeing with. I I'm saying that while there is racism in America, crime is. Colorblind. Because one of the young men that we're talking about sodomized a woman so badly, a pregnant woman, that they had to reconstruct her anus. All right. Surgically removed. We are saying the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=415.02,444.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We're saying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=446.45,446.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I am seriously saying that. Let's take Baltimore. In the black community, the poorest part of the black community, where a lot of the crime takes place. What color are the victims? Black. Black. So black doesn't mean criminal. Black means that you may live in an area where you are the victim. There are as many white criminals throughout America. In fact, there are more white people in jail than there are black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=446.93,469.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. But the point here is, when you say crime is colorblind, you really have to couch that in some other kinds of ways. Because when you say that, you begin to make people believe that we have justice in this society and that, in fact, when somebody does something wrong, they are going to be penalized for it. And it is not the way the system happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=470.06,486.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You are black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=487.1,487.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You get more time, You get to go to the electric chair. You get to have all kinds of negative things happen to you because of the color.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=487.94,495.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In this case, the verdict was just what it should have been. This man was convicted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=495.8,499.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=501.18,501.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course. This man was convicted of what he should have been convicted of, and that is illegally carrying a gun. He was found not guilty of what he should have been found not guilty of, and that is murder. It was self-defense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=501.8,511.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=512.13,512.169"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Saying I would really like to say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=512.78,513.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Your turn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=514.159,514.309"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. I think that those of us who try very hard and maybe even get to the point where we think we don't have prejudices because our friends are black or our friends are Jewish or our friends are Korean or Asiatic or whatever. I think it's like anti-Semitism with many, many people in this United States. I think it is so embedded in us. It is so instilled in us that I said that I was not going to make this statement. And I will regret I don't know whether I'm going to regret making this statement or not, but I can honestly tell you that and I would be wrong where I own a subway by myself and four black men walked over to me. I would be more terrified than if four white men walked up to it. Now it has nothing to do with their intent. It could be the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=514.789,563.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=564.08,564.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me finish. I'm walking down the street and I live in a city and I turn around and it just is an instinctive thing. I'm embarrassed to tell you this Jan is sitting here. I am telling you what is in my inner, my soul, and I can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=565.37,578.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Assure you you're absolutely right. Let me say that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=578.93,581.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There are people listening that if I found out about myself through this get case, I found out that all my highfalutin marching in the sixties with Martin Luther King, all the people that I interviewed and everything has still not stripped me of that fear and fear is what causes hate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=581.96,598.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And I appreciate that. But I'm going to go one step and I'm going to go one step further. I will bet you anything you would have been scared to death if four white men had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=599.25,607.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Just said that, you know, But I would have been much more suspicious as they got up out of the chair and came over when.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=608.16,614.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If four white men came over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=614.54,615.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To you telling me what I think, I live in a city and I walk from one place to the other in the city and I turn around and I look behind me and I ask a doorman of a hotel to watch me. And when a white man is walking out of that hotel down the street, I don't feel the same thing as when a black shoots up out of the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=616.01,631.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Act disagreeing with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=631.49,632.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You, telling you, and I'm disgusted with myself that I will probably lose friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=632.54,635.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, all I'm saying is and and I appreciate what you're saying, and I'm certainly not one to tell you how you feel. All I'm saying is this If four white men were to come over to you on a closed, confined area and start asking you for money and look menacing, you're going to be scared.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=635.93,650.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=651.15,651.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not the point. That's not what we're talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=651.76,654.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We're talking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=654.51,654.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e About racism. I believe and I'm going to say this and I know that this is going to cause me a lot of grief. If Bernard Katz was accosted by if he if the man was black. Bernard Getz had been a black man and killed four white men or shot them, regardless of their records. These are bonds. You know, somebody said on Ted Koppel show the world is made up of good guys and bad guys. These were bad guys. They were bad guys, whether they're black, yellow, white, purple, they're bad guys. I don't know. What Bernard gets is a scared wimp of a man, you know, who was there to protect. And he would have shot anybody in any exactly what. But the point is, if Bernard gets was black and he shot white, believe me, he would not get off scot free. This country never would be marching in the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=655.22,700.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll be back in just a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=700.65,702.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, anybody can do what they do and I'm going to go. I lose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=702.92,706.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The conversations were never integrated. I'm sure it's continuing in your living room as it is here. And the question was asked to Jan, and I think you should we'll ask it again and you can answer the question if you had to make a choice if to be accosted by or approached on a dark street by four white guys or four black guys, what if you had to be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=822.39,840.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I was raised in the same society you were raised in. We have the same kinds of problems. We are all suffering from racism. The answer is I'd be more fearful of my own people. Why I would be a white guy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=840.28,852.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So we need to look at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=852.4,853.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=853.26,853.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e She.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=854.05,854.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Has been so devastating to black males, particularly has ground them into the dust, telling them that they are nothing, telling him they can't raise him, they have no vision, they have no hope. So what they do is counterproductive to themselves, counterproductive to society in mind. It is in theirs. That's the worst part. It is theirs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=855.33,876.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's very interesting. I think both are very honest about it. But I come from a different environment. 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Yeah, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=898.92,899.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd like to know how many black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=900.0,900.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Friends. Well, we had about 10 to 15% black children. But we also had American Indians. We had Hispanic, we had Mexican that you didn't have here. And there wasn't that kind of fear. And there isn't that kind of fear. When I was in college, I thought one of the sexiest women in America was Lena Horne. And I'm amazed to hear the kind of fear that permeates the society that you're talking about the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=901.17,924.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's because you don't know urban America. Maybe you don't know it as as we have seen it and as it is depicted in the media, in television or in films, in books, everything says negative. It says congested, it says poor and it says downtrodden. 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It is it is just like anything else. We have all kinds of levels in our society. It's not saying every black is like that. 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I look at it as a scared man who was in a confined area, who had been mugged before and he pulled a gun. That's number one. Number five, finish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=976.08,985.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=985.48,985.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Number two, I'm not naive. Number two, this man was convicted of a crime. No. See, everybody forgets that he can get seven years in jail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=985.83,993.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, he's not a free here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=993.56,995.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm just telling you that the man was convicted of a crime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=995.49,998.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I would like to ask everybody in watching Ted Koppel show and having conversations over the weekend with different people that I've seen, different places. No one who's white thinks that it's a racial problem. Everybody who's black thinks that it is a racial problem, whether it's a professor of college or some kid on the street there we are split right down the middle once again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=998.91,1019.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, see, I think one of the points that we have to face here is I see a growing trend towards the vigilante.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1019.76,1024.619"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1025.079,1025.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e To death wish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1025.42,1025.819"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think, you know, Charles Bronson, because people are so afraid now and they consider the criminal to be above the law, that I think they're going to take the law into their own hands. 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How many times have you heard people say, I called the police and I had to wait 45 minutes or I call the police. And I reported something happened. This man said this man didn't get a free ride. For the last two and a half years. He's been through a rough ordeal for too long. We already have examples of the vigilantes here in Baltimore. You remember the snowball incident where the man finally went out to his front yard and killed some young people because he couldn't stand it anymore. You're not seeing that much of the rolling wells and you're not seeing that much of it. 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I don't know how many years ago that was, but you're going back five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1071.6,1074.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Years to come up with an.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1074.6,1075.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1075.89,1075.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The trigger, folks, please. You're doing very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1076.64,1078.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. And that's what happens. You have it happening here and then and all of a sudden you get a groundswell because people think, well, it's okay, we're not going to have any reaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1078.89,1085.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know what is. So what is the answer? I mean, if I had been the other way, that would have been a terrible tragedy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1085.49,1090.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Just that's what it comes down to justice. And we don't have it. And people know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1091.43,1096.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, the bottom line of all this is you're looking at I mean, are you justifying his birth or are you saying, well, look what this is going to cause, therefore this man should be convicted? I'm looking at the case. I'm not going be on the case if I'm sitting on that jury. 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He was giving them directions, changing it each time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1131.36,1137.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think there's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1137.82,1138.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e A very.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1138.47,1138.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Important point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1138.83,1139.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Toward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1139.88,1139.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That we can add to what Jan is saying. And that is after the verdict was announced, the jurors went over and asked for his autograph because they considered him to be not just a figure on trial, but to be an heroic figure. And they wanted his autograph before they left the room. And guess what? 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Sun, Sun, sun's tomorrow. You lived through the newspaper strike. There were papers all the time. Extended coverage on television and on radio. What do you have to say about this? I know you've got some due. I heard you talk shop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1163.25,1174.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I've got a couple words on uncomplimentary things. Well, Reg Murphy heard some uncomplimentary things on the radio station where I work, so he canceled the advertising contract. I responded by going on the air to suggest that people cancel their sun paper subscriptions. I hope more will follow the comments that I'm making tonight. Well, Reg Murphy is the only guy over there with any balls. And the wimps who went out on the line stayed out five days, not a full week. These are the same people who are the strident union people. Solidarity forever. They missed almost one paycheck. Okay, now they're back. Well, I think that I have been carping on the sun for a very long time, that it's simply a shell of its former self. Frankly, Richard, I hope you cancel your subscription. I canceled mine in 1980. Let me say something, because Richard has received some uncomplimentary reviews over the years from the paper. And I think I think it's time to stand up. If they take a stand against us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1175.13,1231.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e If I canceled all the publications that wrote about me, my my shelves would be bare.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1231.83,1236.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1236.75,1236.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you know, I tried to talk about this. I don't use this as a soapbox because you have a thing for Reg Murphy because he pulled his average.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1237.23,1244.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I like Reg Murphy. He's got guys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1245.03,1246.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Just got guys. And guts would have been a more a more preferred word. All right. Then the other one is, what do you think about this strike? It didn't prove anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1247.19,1253.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e He doesn't like the union because the union didn't stand up long enough and really go for it. What they said was that those who were at the lower end of the scale were really going to be hurt. And they were very concerned about and I don't know the whole issue. I don't really it didn't really follow the story that well. But it seems to me that might have some validity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1255.44,1271.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That paper makes a lot of money. It's a one paper town. And that's the problem. That's right. It's a one paper town. You know what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1273.8,1279.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think they have a stranglehold on us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1279.65,1281.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And they do. I think the union caved in because the word was on the street that if they didn't come back, they were going to hire their replacements right at the right time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1281.48,1288.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So I think it's very easy for us. So you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1288.74,1290.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Think it's okay to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1290.66,1291.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do that? Me? I think it's very easy for us to sit around here and say what they should and what they should not do. There are a lot of these men and women that have families that really need money, that are at the lower end of the scale. And maybe everybody you know, you've been in negotiations yourself. Everybody does not agree. It could be the majority that has to agree. The fact that they have an enormous amount of money and the way this was handled, I think, was very bad. We had the news American who became defunct. They went out of business, but they did it with class. You know, they were losing money. They did it as well as they could possibly do it. And at least they did it with dignity. I mean, they died with dignity. This thing on the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1291.65,1327.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Down with one paper.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1327.56,1328.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's good. You can understand why the people that are here and being allowed to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1328.79,1331.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Use.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1332.04,1332.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That have their homes and their children here maybe didn't want to defy that, because if they're out of a job with that newspaper, how many of these little.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1332.66,1339.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What's that say what you say about the union.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1339.57,1341.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And what the unions are doing, all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1342.11,1343.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1345.56,1345.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Really to stop what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1347.06,1348.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e My question really is, why are you saying that you think they should have hung in there and therefore the Sun Papers would have brought in other people to take their jobs, They would have been out of work. What good is that? All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1348.65,1358.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's talk about what they tried to do. One of the things they wanted to accomplish was to eliminate the double wide scale for the banks up to the double wide scale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1358.58,1366.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1366.62,1366.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1367.07,1367.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1367.61,1367.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now they have to pay for medical benefits. They have to contribute to their medical benefits before they partially before. They didn't have to do that at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1368.66,1374.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62860/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that was part of the whole thing. That was why they called out the strike in the first place. So they they they compromised. What I'm saying is, yes, you do have to compromise sometimes. 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WJ Kay, and sounds like a radio station in Baltimore writes In dismay They never mention the other minority groups. This is America where every race counts, not only blacks replying to our show on black discrimination. Jay Brown of Baltimore writes It's important to note that blacks neither founded this country nor were they responsible for over 200 years of suffering, sacrifice and hard work that it took to make this country great. Only small numbers of blacks ever fought in its wars. Therefore they deserve no preference. 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You can respond to this person. Robina Ratcliff of Nevett, Maryland responds to the same discussion. It is definitely anti-black and anti-minority. But the worst part is that it would encourage no one to visit our state. Here's the address. Won't you write to us square off WJC TD Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland to 1 to 1 one. Tempers are cooled. Join us again next Saturday night when once again we square off. 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And one of the big stories in the news this week, Bernard gets acquitted of all major charges stemming from the shooting of four black youths in a New York subway. Tonight on Square off, we ask your opinion about jets getting off. Bob, share an.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=79.84,93.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Excellent, excellent verdict.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=93.94,94.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Elaine Stein I'm glad to see that victim get rights, but get has gotten whatever the grammar is. I'm glad to see a victim get rights, but I have a lot to say on this subject, Jonathan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=95.53,105.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e If he were if the whole situation with it, everyone wore the same color, I would agree. I cannot agree. Racism is too prevalent in this society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=106.81,114.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=114.82,115.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Writes, Yeah, the only problem with Getz is he ran out of bullets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=115.96,118.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Gets gets off another other subjects in the news tonight as we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=118.96,122.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Square off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=122.98,123.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When we were. Good evening, everyone. On the set. What were you, please? It is Saturday night. It is 730. I'm Richard Cher. Welcome to Squirrel. Jan and Elaine are talking. They're concerned. Before we get to Bernard gets about this Tamar left of Baltimore who announced at the conference on AIDS that she's carrying the AIDS virus. She has been banned now from the Pikesville Beauty Shop, where she goes for manicures and haircuts. And you are all upset about this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=133.47,156.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What's the problem? Well, first of all, I think the woman is very courageous to announce that she does have AIDS. 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And I must say this I love my beauty shop. I would give up my car before my beauty shop. Absolutely. And I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=163.5,176.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Just saying much, with all due respect. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=177.19,178.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What else? I give up. I mean, I would give up a lot of things because of my beauty shop. But I will say this, and I think that a lot of women that are listening will agree with me and Jan, you will too. Beauty shops are not that fastidious. I am sorry to say that we do have laws in Maryland, but how many people listening know what it is to go to a shop and somebody will say, Where is my brush? Who has my brush? And then from any place in the shop, somebody comes over with a hairbrush. What about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=179.34,205.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That? They don't even bother. If you have your own brush and you are the beautician use, don't bother to wash or clean any of those utensils before you go to the store.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=206.39,215.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e This woman be barred because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=215.46,216.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e She should stay away on her own. And I tell you something else. A manicure can be for some of us, a very dangerous thing. For instance, I have an artificial heart valve. If I get an infection, it's a very serious thing. If I have a cut on my finger, if the slippers or something is cut, you know what happens with the cut, you know, So it can be a very serious it is a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=217.48,236.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Very, very sad situation. That's the only word I can use. 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She was very courageous. She and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=243.3,248.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That she.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=248.67,249.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Gave her name, she gave testimony. But I mean if other customers of that beauty shop know that she goes there, they were going to lose business. Here's the point, Richard. I think we're dealing with a subject now that has created hysteria in the community. And I think you're not only going to see beauty shops, you're going to see all kinds of businesses say, to AIDS carriers and AIDS patients, stay out of here. That's right. Because no matter what the health officials say, legal. Well, I don't know if it's legal, but you're going to have people saying you're not welcome here. I think it's legal. And and it's unfortunate. I don't know how else to say it. It is unfortunate. I feel sorry for this woman. I feel sorry for people that have this. 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We want to talk about Bernard Getz. And he and Ken, you made the point. Now here is a white guy who shoots four black kids. And you're suggesting, I guess in your opening comment that had they been white and he had been black, it would have turned out different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=317.68,332.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly. I really feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=332.63,333.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Also I will say this, if everybody had been the same color in that situation, I would have been comfortable with this verdict. However, I will tell you, if you just wait. The reason that I cannot do that is because racism is so prevalent in this society, as everybody sitting here knows. It is woven into everything that we do. And you cannot say that there is not racism involved in this and in everything else that relates to what goes on in our society where we have black and white involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=333.6,361.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're looking beyond the case. Let me look at the case. Looking at the case, there is no doubt in my mind that this man with a pulled his gun and would have shot anybody white, black, green, red. He was scared. Four kids came up to him and tried to rob him. He had been robbed before. He's in a confined subway area. He just shot anybody. 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First of all, let's take the follow up. Almost all of the young men who were involved with Getz committed crimes after Getz. Right. One of the young men that we're talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=382.34,396.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I know that at the time, though, you want to be on that. Well, wait a minute. Go to him. He didn't know. 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They found sharpened screwdrivers on the way all over again, but they weren't on their way to repair electrical outlets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=400.89,406.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Bernard Getz did not know that he was sitting there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=406.86,409.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=409.71,409.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sorry. I did not know what lay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=410.13,411.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And I can't I cannot agree with you that he didn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=411.6,413.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=414.0,414.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e When he was confronted when he was confronted by these young men for money in a threatening mood, the apparent threat triggered his response. Well, it was not a question of color, but what he was actually disagreeing with. I I'm saying that while there is racism in America, crime is. Colorblind. Because one of the young men that we're talking about sodomized a woman so badly, a pregnant woman, that they had to reconstruct her anus. All right. Surgically removed. We are saying the same thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=415.02,444.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We're saying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=446.45,446.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I am seriously saying that. Let's take Baltimore. In the black community, the poorest part of the black community, where a lot of the crime takes place. What color are the victims? Black. Black. So black doesn't mean criminal. Black means that you may live in an area where you are the victim. There are as many white criminals throughout America. In fact, there are more white people in jail than there are black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=446.93,469.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. But the point here is, when you say crime is colorblind, you really have to couch that in some other kinds of ways. Because when you say that, you begin to make people believe that we have justice in this society and that, in fact, when somebody does something wrong, they are going to be penalized for it. And it is not the way the system happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=470.06,486.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You are black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=487.1,487.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You get more time, You get to go to the electric chair. You get to have all kinds of negative things happen to you because of the color.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=487.94,495.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In this case, the verdict was just what it should have been. This man was convicted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=495.8,499.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=501.18,501.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course. This man was convicted of what he should have been convicted of, and that is illegally carrying a gun. 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It was self-defense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=501.8,511.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=512.13,512.169"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Saying I would really like to say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=512.78,513.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Your turn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=514.159,514.309"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. I think that those of us who try very hard and maybe even get to the point where we think we don't have prejudices because our friends are black or our friends are Jewish or our friends are Korean or Asiatic or whatever. I think it's like anti-Semitism with many, many people in this United States. I think it is so embedded in us. It is so instilled in us that I said that I was not going to make this statement. And I will regret I don't know whether I'm going to regret making this statement or not, but I can honestly tell you that and I would be wrong where I own a subway by myself and four black men walked over to me. I would be more terrified than if four white men walked up to it. Now it has nothing to do with their intent. It could be the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=514.789,563.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=564.08,564.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me finish. I'm walking down the street and I live in a city and I turn around and it just is an instinctive thing. I'm embarrassed to tell you this Jan is sitting here. I am telling you what is in my inner, my soul, and I can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=565.37,578.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Assure you you're absolutely right. Let me say that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=578.93,581.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There are people listening that if I found out about myself through this get case, I found out that all my highfalutin marching in the sixties with Martin Luther King, all the people that I interviewed and everything has still not stripped me of that fear and fear is what causes hate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=581.96,598.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And I appreciate that. But I'm going to go one step and I'm going to go one step further. I will bet you anything you would have been scared to death if four white men had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=599.25,607.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Just said that, you know, But I would have been much more suspicious as they got up out of the chair and came over when.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=608.16,614.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If four white men came over.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=614.54,615.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To you telling me what I think, I live in a city and I walk from one place to the other in the city and I turn around and I look behind me and I ask a doorman of a hotel to watch me. 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All I'm saying is this If four white men were to come over to you on a closed, confined area and start asking you for money and look menacing, you're going to be scared.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=635.93,650.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=651.15,651.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not the point. That's not what we're talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=651.76,654.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We're talking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=654.51,654.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e About racism. I believe and I'm going to say this and I know that this is going to cause me a lot of grief. If Bernard Katz was accosted by if he if the man was black. Bernard Getz had been a black man and killed four white men or shot them, regardless of their records. These are bonds. You know, somebody said on Ted Koppel show the world is made up of good guys and bad guys. These were bad guys. They were bad guys, whether they're black, yellow, white, purple, they're bad guys. I don't know. What Bernard gets is a scared wimp of a man, you know, who was there to protect. And he would have shot anybody in any exactly what. But the point is, if Bernard gets was black and he shot white, believe me, he would not get off scot free. This country never would be marching in the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=655.22,700.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll be back in just a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=700.65,702.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, anybody can do what they do and I'm going to go. I lose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=702.92,706.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The conversations were never integrated. I'm sure it's continuing in your living room as it is here. And the question was asked to Jan, and I think you should we'll ask it again and you can answer the question if you had to make a choice if to be accosted by or approached on a dark street by four white guys or four black guys, what if you had to be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=822.39,840.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I was raised in the same society you were raised in. We have the same kinds of problems. We are all suffering from racism. The answer is I'd be more fearful of my own people. Why I would be a white guy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=840.28,852.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So we need to look at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=852.4,853.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=853.26,853.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e She.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=854.05,854.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Has been so devastating to black males, particularly has ground them into the dust, telling them that they are nothing, telling him they can't raise him, they have no vision, they have no hope. So what they do is counterproductive to themselves, counterproductive to society in mind. It is in theirs. That's the worst part. It is theirs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=855.33,876.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's very interesting. I think both are very honest about it. But I come from a different environment. When I was a kid, I came from a fully integrated environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=876.66,884.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what you were not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=884.67,885.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, now, wait a minute, my mommy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=885.54,886.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How people where you're from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=887.43,888.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, but allow me to speak, if you would, please, When I come from the Rocky Mountain West, which is different from a big city, we were fully integrate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=889.05,897.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How many blocks in your school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=897.48,898.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e May I continue? 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We had Hispanic, we had Mexican that you didn't have here. And there wasn't that kind of fear. And there isn't that kind of fear. When I was in college, I thought one of the sexiest women in America was Lena Horne. And I'm amazed to hear the kind of fear that permeates the society that you're talking about the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=901.17,924.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's because you don't know urban America. Maybe you don't know it as as we have seen it and as it is depicted in the media, in television or in films, in books, everything says negative. It says congested, it says poor and it says downtrodden. 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It is it is just like anything else. We have all kinds of levels in our society. It's not saying every black is like that. 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I look at it as a scared man who was in a confined area, who had been mugged before and he pulled a gun. That's number one. Number five, finish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=976.08,985.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=985.48,985.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Number two, I'm not naive. Number two, this man was convicted of a crime. No. See, everybody forgets that he can get seven years in jail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=985.83,993.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, he's not a free here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=993.56,995.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm just telling you that the man was convicted of a crime.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=995.49,998.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I would like to ask everybody in watching Ted Koppel show and having conversations over the weekend with different people that I've seen, different places. No one who's white thinks that it's a racial problem. 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How many times have you heard people say, I called the police and I had to wait 45 minutes or I call the police. And I reported something happened. This man said this man didn't get a free ride. For the last two and a half years. He's been through a rough ordeal for too long. We already have examples of the vigilantes here in Baltimore. You remember the snowball incident where the man finally went out to his front yard and killed some young people because he couldn't stand it anymore. You're not seeing that much of the rolling wells and you're not seeing that much of it. You have to go back that much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1042.53,1069.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How much more should we say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1070.1,1071.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're going back? Five. I don't know how many years ago that was, but you're going back five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1071.6,1074.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Years to come up with an.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1074.6,1075.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1075.89,1075.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The trigger, folks, please. You're doing very well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1076.64,1078.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. And that's what happens. You have it happening here and then and all of a sudden you get a groundswell because people think, well, it's okay, we're not going to have any reaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1078.89,1085.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know what is. So what is the answer? I mean, if I had been the other way, that would have been a terrible tragedy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1085.49,1090.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Just that's what it comes down to justice. And we don't have it. And people know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1091.43,1096.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, the bottom line of all this is you're looking at I mean, are you justifying his birth or are you saying, well, look what this is going to cause, therefore this man should be convicted? I'm looking at the case. I'm not going be on the case if I'm sitting on that jury. 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I'm looking at the evidence and the evidence that was presented in that case indicated the man was not guilty of murder.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1110.81,1120.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you read where? 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And that is after the verdict was announced, the jurors went over and asked for his autograph because they considered him to be not just a figure on trial, but to be an heroic figure. And they wanted his autograph before they left the room. And guess what? 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Sun, Sun, sun's tomorrow. You lived through the newspaper strike. There were papers all the time. Extended coverage on television and on radio. What do you have to say about this? I know you've got some due. I heard you talk shop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1163.25,1174.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I've got a couple words on uncomplimentary things. Well, Reg Murphy heard some uncomplimentary things on the radio station where I work, so he canceled the advertising contract. I responded by going on the air to suggest that people cancel their sun paper subscriptions. I hope more will follow the comments that I'm making tonight. Well, Reg Murphy is the only guy over there with any balls. And the wimps who went out on the line stayed out five days, not a full week. These are the same people who are the strident union people. Solidarity forever. They missed almost one paycheck. Okay, now they're back. Well, I think that I have been carping on the sun for a very long time, that it's simply a shell of its former self. Frankly, Richard, I hope you cancel your subscription. I canceled mine in 1980. Let me say something, because Richard has received some uncomplimentary reviews over the years from the paper. And I think I think it's time to stand up. If they take a stand against us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1175.13,1231.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e If I canceled all the publications that wrote about me, my my shelves would be bare.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1231.83,1236.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1236.75,1236.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you know, I tried to talk about this. I don't use this as a soapbox because you have a thing for Reg Murphy because he pulled his average.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1237.23,1244.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I like Reg Murphy. He's got guys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1245.03,1246.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Just got guys. And guts would have been a more a more preferred word. All right. Then the other one is, what do you think about this strike? It didn't prove anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1247.19,1253.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e He doesn't like the union because the union didn't stand up long enough and really go for it. What they said was that those who were at the lower end of the scale were really going to be hurt. And they were very concerned about and I don't know the whole issue. I don't really it didn't really follow the story that well. But it seems to me that might have some validity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1255.44,1271.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That paper makes a lot of money. It's a one paper town. And that's the problem. That's right. It's a one paper town. You know what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1273.8,1279.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think they have a stranglehold on us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1279.65,1281.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And they do. I think the union caved in because the word was on the street that if they didn't come back, they were going to hire their replacements right at the right time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1281.48,1288.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So I think it's very easy for us. So you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1288.74,1290.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Think it's okay to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1290.66,1291.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do that? Me? I think it's very easy for us to sit around here and say what they should and what they should not do. There are a lot of these men and women that have families that really need money, that are at the lower end of the scale. And maybe everybody you know, you've been in negotiations yourself. Everybody does not agree. It could be the majority that has to agree. The fact that they have an enormous amount of money and the way this was handled, I think, was very bad. We had the news American who became defunct. They went out of business, but they did it with class. You know, they were losing money. They did it as well as they could possibly do it. And at least they did it with dignity. I mean, they died with dignity. This thing on the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1291.65,1327.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Down with one paper.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1327.56,1328.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's good. You can understand why the people that are here and being allowed to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1328.79,1331.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Use.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1332.04,1332.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That have their homes and their children here maybe didn't want to defy that, because if they're out of a job with that newspaper, how many of these little.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1332.66,1339.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What's that say what you say about the union.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1339.57,1341.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And what the unions are doing, all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1342.11,1343.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1345.56,1345.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Really to stop what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1347.06,1348.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e My question really is, why are you saying that you think they should have hung in there and therefore the Sun Papers would have brought in other people to take their jobs, They would have been out of work. What good is that? All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1348.65,1358.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's talk about what they tried to do. One of the things they wanted to accomplish was to eliminate the double wide scale for the banks up to the double wide scale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1358.58,1366.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1366.62,1366.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1367.07,1367.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1367.61,1367.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now they have to pay for medical benefits. They have to contribute to their medical benefits before they partially before. They didn't have to do that at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947#t=1368.66,1374.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118463/file/222947/transcript/62974/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that was part of the whole thing. That was why they called out the strike in the first place. So they they they compromised. What I'm saying is, yes, you do have to compromise sometimes. 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WJ Kay, and sounds like a radio station in Baltimore writes In dismay They never mention the other minority groups. This is America where every race counts, not only blacks replying to our show on black discrimination. Jay Brown of Baltimore writes It's important to note that blacks neither founded this country nor were they responsible for over 200 years of suffering, sacrifice and hard work that it took to make this country great. Only small numbers of blacks ever fought in its wars. Therefore they deserve no preference. 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You can respond to this person. Robina Ratcliff of Nevett, Maryland responds to the same discussion. It is definitely anti-black and anti-minority. But the worst part is that it would encourage no one to visit our state. Here's the address. Won't you write to us square off WJC TD Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland to 1 to 1 one. Tempers are cooled. Join us again next Saturday night when once again we square off. 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