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Oh, ladies and gentlemen, and kids of all ages, there he is, live. Thank you very much. Back to you, Don and Marty. Cool, cool. All right, now, Kenzo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=1.18,20.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Where did that come from? That was actually a nickname given to me from friends in high school when I first started clowning. My real name is Ken, and everyone said, well, why don't you call you Kenzo? And I just kept it as a nickname, and now I use it as a professional clown name also. They work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=21.24,34.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e works for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=34.84,35.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It sure does. It works great. How long have you been clowning? I first started actually when I was 14 years old. I used to run to all the circuses. Whenever they would come into town, I would sometimes hook school, which I shouldn't tell this on air, should I? And what I would do was hook school, take a bus way down to like the airport, help put up a circus tent. And then when the Ringling Brothers Circus would come in, I would go up and sell cotton candy and things and sell balloons, whatever I could to be around the circus. And one evening, I was placing all the popcorn and all the cotton candy downstairs into the storage area. Hold on. Now let's start from scratch. You got your name Kenzo Howell. Well actually, it was a nickname given to me in high school when I first started clowning. My real name is Ken, and so everyone said, wow, why don't you call yourself Kenzo, like Bozo. And I kept it. It was a real cute little name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=35.2,87.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So it's actually a derivative of bozo.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=87.53,89.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, one of my heroes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=90.58,91.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You weren't offended when kids called you bozo or? No, I was excited, I was proud. Like, wow, they knew who I am. How old were you when you, how old were you when you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=93.77,104.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e First, put your makeup on. First time, I was 14 years old. I took a small clown course at Dundalk Community College, and they taught us how to apply makeup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=105.82,113.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Prior to that, did you have ideas of becoming a clown?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=114.61,118.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. Whenever the circus would come into town, I would read it in the newspaper and I would usually go and find a circus, go there and help in any way I could. Sell cotton candy, sell balloons, or even help put up the circus tent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=118.71,128.949"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e were how old then? Probably about 13 or 14. So the first time you can recall I mean what like when you were in elementary school did you do clowny kind of things?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=130.039,139.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I was very quiet, very conservative, you know, just real, well gee, you're going to be a clown. So my teachers today, I would meet them and you can, you're going to be a clown entertainer because I was so quiet and I'm kind of like a performer that once you go on stage then you perform. I wasn't really like a class clown per se.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=140.41,157.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you get to be very storied.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=162.24,164.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, Spence, sit real flat, okay, buddy? Push. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=164.44,168.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, here we go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=167.7,168.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There is no signal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=168.85,169.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Why is that fair play? I don't even know where I was. I have no idea. What was I talking about? We were talking about, I think, you were a quiet kid. Yes, very quiet. Very conservative. If your teachers saw you today and said, how have you been doing? Say, I'm a clown. Now you say, come on. They wouldn't believe it. I mean, if... You're a teacher.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=169.52,186.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They would not believe it. They just think Ken Horseman, the clown? No way. I was so quiet, so conservative in school in a class. I was not like outspoken and I wasn't real like rough and tough. I was just Ken Horseman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=192.01,203.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e little Kenny.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=204.51,204.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Little cat. Yes, South Baltimore. Born and raised at South Baltimore General Hospital on Light Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=205.28,212.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e going. Yes. Did you say at some point in your life, goodbye cruel world, I'm off to join a circus? Or how did that happen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=214.019,224.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It was a fascination with me. I think circus, anyone can belong to a circus. It's like their own family. You can belong to a circus and you can be whoever you are. In a normal world, is that called normal world? You're the real business like, you're conservative or you have a nine to five job. In a circus, you're an entertainer. You can act whoever you wanna be. You can dress any way you like. You can be whoever you wanna be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=224.45,244.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e While you were clowning, of course, did you ever try the high wires? No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=245.14,249.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no. Never got up there? That's not one of my... I sometimes did trampoline, little things like that, maybe a little slack wire, but not the high wire. Did you ever climb aboard an elephant? Oh, yes, I used to ride elephants and I also rode unicycles. Mostly like small things, like juggling and things like that, but never real high in the air.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=250.15,266.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But, I mean, you got on an elephant, I mean, just for the fun of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=267.2,269.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I used to write it actually in a show. Oh, you did? I wrote it like 560 times a year. In costume. In costume.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=270.06,275.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What about the, did you ever get near the lions or the tigers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=277.3,279.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. We were strictly clowns, and you would have like 10 or 12 costume changes per show, right? You would have the opening, then you have all your clown gags, and then 20 minutes of clown gags prior to the show performance. And when we take all these little clown gags and put them together, and when we put them all together, you would use them for the whole show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=279.55,297.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Is the Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey Circus, is it the greatest show on earth? Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=299.53,305.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. I worked on air for four years and it was the greatest experience in my life. There are things that I did in that show that I could never repeat again. Being with the people, just traveling out, we travel 60 to 90 cities a year, travel thousands of miles a year, work with all types of animals, all types of people from all different countries all over the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=305.7,324.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Of all the ways to be entertained now for us folks, when you put your money down and you buy a ticket and you go to the circus, is it the greatest show on earth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=327.24,339.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely, it's a family show. How many places can you take your whole family and see a live performance with animals, great acts, people risk their life every day up there to do certain skills. It's a beautiful show. It's a family entertainment. The costumes are gorgeous. The music. All handmade, all written, especially for certain acts, circus acts, different individual acts, personalized. spend their lives. Training, working, some start at three to four to five -year -olds, learning to juggle, learning to do trapeze. They're great, they're just fantastic. Family after family after family, generation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=340.01,376.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So being in the circus is something, obviously, that you're really gonna love to do. Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=378.08,382.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. And I still love it. I still visit every circus I possibly can go see within driving distance. In fact, I just did a special promotion for Ringling Brothers. I still do freelance work for them now and then. They'll call my wife and I. In fact, I mentioned that's where I met my wife. 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She was more of a gymnast. Now, she does all the great things you're speaking about, the daring things. She used to jump over two elephants. She would run down a small little springboard, 24 inches wide, 40 feet long, and it'd end up being a small spring. Bounce on the spring and jump over two big elephants. And then two big guys would catch you on the other side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=401.54,424.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e She sounds like another now and then segment. Yes, she is. Is she a Baltimore girl? 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I met a great lady. She just loves everything that we do together. She's part of the entertainment field, which is really good. Like even yourself, you have a special job. Your wife may not want anything to do with your lifestyle because you're so unique and different, right? Where my wife, she really enjoys Clem. I'm sorry. I started going off there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=483.01,502.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That started going off didn't it? 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She's more fun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=513.32,517.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You left the circus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=520.44,521.679"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, to settle back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=522.409,524.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e To settle down to raise a family. 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I've traveled all over the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=528.37,532.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But you're still a clown!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=533.3,534.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm still a clown. I still perform at circus. I'll still do a circus once in a while. 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Absolutely. How does that make you feel? I mean when you when you're doing your thing you're all dressed up and you look down you got these little kids and apparently some of them are a little nervous about what's happening, then all of a sudden you crack the ice you break through and you see that big smile. How does it make you feel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=576.89,608.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, performing here in my own little world, as I call it, Kenzo's party place, OK, I'm rolling one on one, like you and I talking now. 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How many people can do that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=639.05,650.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e This is your whole life's experience at work at this moment, is that right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=652.05,656.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I just, I can see myself doing anything else in the future. 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My own one -ring circus that I could travel all around, maybe Washington, Virginia, and Maryland area, on maybe small fairs and things like that. Me being the star clown.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=730.38,740.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Possibly my son with a tent and elephants","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=741.52,743.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely, absolutely. If willing, we would like to do that. I think it would be a great experience having my own little circus. Bring in children and families and share my wonderful laughter with everyone else. What would you call it? Kenzo's 3, um, gee, let's see, um. The greatest what? The greatest, no, I can't use the greatest. Let me see, how about if we use something like, uh. 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Yeah, I see what you're saying. But it seems like to me, Ken, that your whole life experience has led you to the point where you are right now, and that is... But it seems like the meat... to make people laugh, especially children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=792.33,811.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely, absolutely. Just like this little girl on the stage, I wrapped all the balloons around her, and you could see her smile. Each time she said, thank you, I brought another balloon. Thank you, I brought another balloon. 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What do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=838.91,857.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely, I think my life is already directed for me to say, well, this is your niche. This is going to be your life. You're going to entertain, you're going to apply makeup on, you're going to wear big shoes, a red nose, and a funny hat. And that's my place in this world. Everyone has a special place, just like the puzzle. We all have a piece of the puzzle, and this is my piece. Next year, are you going to become a lawyer? I doubt that, unless it's a clown lawyer. I'll maybe help settle some circus case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=858.45,885.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's probably really tiny, though.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=894.36,895.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You were three years old on the one, and how long were you on the school picture, about eight or nine? And in 1977, he went to the Ringling Brothers, Bonham and Bailey Clown College. Is that what they call it, the clown college? 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This is cute. This is me. Fetcher Hill. I'm Sleight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=1010.84,1028.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e the things he was taught at the college. How to sew.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=1029.3,1034.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e This is the very first time I put on makeup.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=1066.65,1067.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He was 15 and trying his hand at makeup after going to a clown school, locally, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=1070.61,1077.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, Dundalk Community College.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=1078.16,1079.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Dugnock Community College Clown School.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=1079.66,1081.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082#t=1120.3,1120.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144519/file/267082/transcript/77247/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You even learn how to ride an elephant. 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