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Eddie Gutman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=17.87,23.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I certainly do, Richard, and I can't imagine that any right -thinking person wouldn't support such a bill. Madeline Murphy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=24.16,29.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I do too, and at law bullets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=30.15,31.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Reverend St. George Cross. I do not. I've never seen a gun kill anybody. People kill people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=32.479,37.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e and bob share i'm a right thinking person and i'm against it i think they ought to have law","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=38.24,42.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about gun control and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. Good evening, everyone. It is Saturday night at 730. Is this your first time on the... No, you've been on the news, Seth. This is your first time, Ed. It's a thrill. Here it is, our new little city. The dark board is gone. Madeline doesn't like it. Welcome to the program. This is your City Councilman Tony Ambridge is asking the state legislature, in fact, Delegate Wendell Phillips, to introduce a bill to outlaw the sale, possession of handguns in the city of Baltimore. State police estimate there could be as many as one million illegal handguns in our state, and we're split here. You can imagine how controversial the issue is. We're split two and two. What do you think? What do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=42.74,93.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How can an issue like this be controversial? You can't walk on the streets in Baltimore City. You can't pick up the newspaper without reading that people are killing each other. St. George says that guns don't kill people who kill other people. That is absolutely absurd. They kill other people because they have guns in their hands. The guns are so accessible. These Saturday night specials are made for no purpose. They serve no purpose on this earth. And you end up terrorizing people. One at a time. How can you not get those off the street if you can? How can you not get those off the street if you can?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=93.96,121.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me ask you a question. If you pass a law outlawing handguns, then the only people in town with handguns will be the criminals, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=121.44,128.979"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Not necessarily, not necessarily. No it isn't. That is not necessarily. Not necessarily. No it isn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=129.139,132.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There are so many of them out there. How are you going to get rid of them? How you gonna get rid of them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=132.34,133.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it isn't because there'll be some people like you who will secrete their guns and still have them. Now, if they didn't have bullets, you wouldn't even have the problem. And manufacturers of bullets, the manufacturers of guns are making a lot of money. And you got some machine guns in people's houses. You've got 357 magnums that are being used in these robberies. I believe that no civilized group of people needs guns. Well, there's a question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=134.06,159.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well there's a question how civilized we are with the proliferation of guns in our society that is a very serious question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=158.94,165.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e the truth is that the criminals have all the guns that they can get they found out on thursday night that uh... the person who had the gun that killed the policeman was another drug dealer who was then killed they have their network to get guns what this bill is trying to do is to keep law -abiding citizens like myself who need protection with a gun you have guns you do have a gun i have two and i Very good with a double barrel shotgun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=165.64,194.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I have a dog and I think he's much more effective than anybody else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=195.56,198.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, the problem is you're not going to get handguns off the street, okay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=197.86,203.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but you know that what kind of attitude? What kind of attitude is that that you're not going to get handguns off the street? Let me just say let me just tell you this. What kind of attitude like I'll give you a second attitude. If it got one handgun off the street, the bill will have succeeded. When you and you say it won't work, you can't get handguns off the street, you must start somewhere. Right now we are killing each other. It is the worst kind of situation. Abby, do you have a... Right. Right now, we are. Killing each other, it is the worst kind of situation I've ever had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=203.04,224.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Eddie, do you have a gun? I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=224.93,226.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=226.95,227.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You see, it's good for all these guys to talk about banning guns while they walk through their metal detectors in the state's attorney's office and while they have their bodyguards protecting them. But there are people who live in the inner city who have to worry about people breaking into their homes, and the only protection that they have, because they can't afford one of your expensive criminal burglar systems, Madeline, they need a gun.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=226.97,253.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e need a gun. I don't have a burglar system and you don't even need a burglar system if somebody wants to break into your house they can break into your house with anything. The thing that concerns me however is that you're talking about people in the inner city and then you're talking about the large number of children who get guns and kill each other out of out of respect. guys and killed each other out of respect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=253.16,271.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeline, how many people do you know, look, people get killed with cars, are we gonna ban cars? Oh, who, who? How many?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=271.4,273.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, that's how y 'all do it! Hold on, what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=278.0,280.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What we need to do, we need to have some kind of training in the safety and the use of guns. 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And there is, there should be training.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=287.31,291.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But the guns that are killing people are in the hands of these children. And you say that you have a gun because you feel safe having one and you know how to use it. How about these kids that are going to not only senior high, but are going to junior high schools with guns and they claim that they need the guns in order to protect themselves. Did you ever hear of anything in society? against to protect themselves, did you ever hear of anything that is society?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=291.43,310.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That is against the law. All right, now let's look at what this law says. Alright, listen to me a minute. Hold it. Last one. The law says you're not allowed to possess a gun, period, anywhere. There presently is a law that says you're not allowed to carry it, okay? So there is a law in effect to ban students, adults, and anyone else from carrying them. That's against the law also. Wait a minute, wait a minute. Also, to me it is absurd to ban handguns when you're allowed to have a rifle in your home anyway. What's the difference?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=310.22,336.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, you're going to come into my house and tell me what I can have in my house. All right. Your government has no right to do that. Yeah, you're gonna All right. Handleman has no right to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=337.02,343.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me get personal with you a minute, St. George. Where do you keep your gun? Do you keep your gun and your bullets together? I keep it out. Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=343.22,349.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I keep it out I keep I keep it out of range of my load.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=348.9,352.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Is it loaded?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=352.36,353.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=354.09,354.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so even if somebody came into your house, you'd have the awkward one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=354.96,359.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I've done enough dry runs on that that I have it loaded and ready in six seconds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=361.44,366.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Really? I mean, listen to yourself. I mean, here you are, a minister, and you have guns to protect yourself. Really? Don't you ask yourself, don't you ask yourself and don't you discuss with your congregants, what kind of society are we living in that I have to have a gun? And then you go on television and you say that you don't believe that we should somehow or other try to get these guns off the street. Now the first step is what the city council is attempting to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=367.32,390.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Look, my gun happens to be a double barrel shotgun. That's my point, that's legal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=389.37,394.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's my point. That's legal and I would be legal under the I want to tell people Just a moment. Double -barreled shotguns are not the problem. Double -barreled shotguns are not the weapons that these kids are using to shoot each other in schools, which they're using to shoot each other on the street. No, I think you're missing the point. For some reason or other, you take a position, and I have yet to hear any type of justification from you, particularly, why you would not be in favor of some band... Let me give you the justification. You're missing the point. All right. I want to give it to you. Let me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=393.25,421.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, the sale of handguns. All right, Eddie, hold on a minute now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=421.97,425.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e First of all, in your home, the only thing this law would do is prevent you from having a gun in your home. Because right now, you're not allowed to carry it anyway, OK? That law is in effect. So this only keeps you from having it in your home. So what you're saying is it's OK to keep a shotgun in your home, where kids can get to that, but it's not all right to keep a handgun. That's absurd. I am not saying it is. Wait a minute. Now, to protect the carrying of guns in school, which is what you're talking about, that's against the law now anyway. But why are you aga - I am not saying it is... Wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=426.14,446.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e against a ban on even a handgun. Saturday Night Specials. Say, why are you against a ban on Saturday Night Specials? Saturday night special. Okay, you believe that you should have a shotgun because I think George has a shotgun. Tell me you tell me why you're against a ban on handguns that have Why are you against a ban on handguns that have no consequences?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=453.03,468.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Eddie, you are saying it's okay to ban a 38 or 40 dollar gun, but don't ban a 200 dollar gun. I'm saying that there are people who buy the cheap guns as well as the expensive guns. And if one should be banned, then maybe all should be banned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=469.99,486.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that's true. I agree with you. I'd vote on that. I'll drink to that. That you ban all of them. I don't even believe that the highest order ought to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=486.72,494.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And then how are you going to keep the criminals from having them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=492.39,495.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Saturday night specials are not registered, I'm against that. I think anyone that has a handgun must register them. You are not registered. If you transfer them from one user to a second -hand person, that ought to be registered, too. Right now, a lot of them provide that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=498.909,511.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But they want to they want to prohibit the sale, transfer and possession of handguns. Right. And that's going too far. The government has no right to tell me what the government has to protect me. government has the right to protect me and to protect you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=511.5,525.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e and the rest of us and this is a first step in the protection. But that's a first step in the protection. You're not worried about me, you're not worried about you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=526.32,531.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, if I walked into your house, if I walked into your house and it was dark. And it was. And you heard this noise!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=531.49,537.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You better announce yourself. Of course, that's what I'm talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=537.8,540.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And many a wife has been shot, many a child has been shot, as a result of walking into a house with...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=541.96,548.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, Madeline, you're just getting hysterical about something that is not so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=543.19,552.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No! No! No! No! I'm not!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=549.72,552.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm saying this, if somebody comes into my house without announcing themselves, then they get what they deserve. At three o 'clock in the morning they deserve it. They get what they deserve, but at the same time, tell us how we're gonna keep the criminals. This guy who just killed a police woman, he had a gun. Three o 'clock in the morning, they deserve it. They get what they deserve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=552.86,562.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You have a good you know you're taught you're accusing man being hysterical. Man, we're buying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=569.43,572.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right on St. George.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=572.97,573.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You're accusing Madeleine of being hysterical. If she's hysterical, she has good cause to be hysterical. The rate of murders in this city is just astounding, one of the highest in the country. Every day we read about kids shooting each other, and not only each other, but you and me besides, and you say Madeleine's hysterical? She should be hysterical. Eddie, it ain't gonna be any luck. I'm hysterical, too. The murder rate. And you have yet to give me a good reason why there shouldn't be a ban whether it bans one gun. Thanks for watching! Eddie, it ain't gonna be any lark. The murder rate. And the - whether it whether it prevents what you're saying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=573.98,602.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What you're saying would make sense if you banned all weapons, handguns and rifles. Mabs, poison, axes, everything. I mean, but that's not what you're saying. That's not what you're saying. You want to ban handguns, but it's alright to have a rifle in your hands. I didn't say it was alright to have a rifle. Mads. Poison. Well, that's what that wall says.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=601.2,615.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We're starting with handguns and we there's a bill to ban handguns fine. Let's pass There's some way, there's some way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=615.02,618.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Eventually, it will then be rifles, and then it will be shotguns, and then it will be everything. Well, worry about it eventually. Eddie? If they, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, if they ban, and worry about eventually. This is highly out of order. Sorry Richard, but if they ban handguns, people will start killing with knives or axes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=622.219,637.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Already they're doing that. Or...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=637.3,638.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e or poison. People kill people, not guns.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=638.21,642.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And what are the statistics? The statistics say that the majority of people who kill one another are people who know each other, who are in personal relationships with each other, who are friends of each other, who this is what happens also in the killing situation, The highest percentage of these people are criminals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=642.48,662.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But these people are criminals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=661.55,662.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This has to do with other things that are related to this family relations, personal relations or all the other things. in the personal relations or all the other things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=663.52,670.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If somebody's not coming in my house at 3 o 'clock in the morning, whether that law is passed or not, they're going to have the gun. I'm going to have an equal shot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=670.13,677.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Allow me to get some reaction before we break. Judge Thomas Ward of the Baltimore Circuit Court criticized the council's proposal. He says existing gun laws are sufficient if police and law enforcement officers would enforce them. Now, Fourth Judicial Circuit Judge John Cordaman disagrees. He says the sound of a shotgun pumping will be more of a deterrent than someone creeping downstairs with a pocket pistol. And that the little old lady, he says, who drops a gun out of her handbag on the way to the bank Should not be prosecuted. On the way to the bank, should not be prosecuted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=678.05,706.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In due respect to the judge, in due respect to both of those judges, what are we talking about? How can you justify people having these Saturday night specials? How can you sit here and say, well, this law doesn't ban rifles or knives and the rest of it? we are living in the most lawless, out of order society and the city council is groping for some way, some signal to the public, some signal to their constituents, we're thinking about it, we're working on it, so we are going to pass a law, whether it gets two guns off the street, I don't know. All is out of order. Wait!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=706.57,729.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, Judge Ward is saying that right now, on the books, you can get three years in jail for a first offender if you illegally carry a gun on the street. The police are not enforcing it, rather the police are, the judges aren't enforcing it, okay? So, why, I mean, all the more reason, all the more reason.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=737.5,755.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All the more reason, all the more reason, all the more reason there should be a law.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=753.79,758.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e As long as the lawless people in our society have guns, there are going to be killings, there are going to be all kinds of things going wrong. The newspapers highlight when they have an accident, and the accidents hardly ever happen. It is not the way they make it sound.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=759.51,777.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, just one thing. The Commissioner of Police and the state's attorney are all in favor of it both. And he's got his metal detectors when you go to see him too. I didn't interrupt you, don't interrupt me. Pomelo collected all of the guns one year and people came in in the droves. He paid $25 a piece for every gun that came in. There was a roundup on the issue of guns being the cause of the violence that goes on in the city and the police commissioners. and he's got his bodyguards with him and he's got his metal detectors when you go to see him too. are concerned about it they're the ones who are responsible for protecting us and i say support them","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=776.87,812.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well then let him go get him from the criminal!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=812.56,814.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When we come back, we'll talk about racial unrest in southwest Philadelphia and in Savage, Maryland. Stay with us. As most of you know if you've been watching the news or nightline, last week a black couple in southwest Philadelphia decided to vacate their home in a predominantly white neighborhood after hundreds of whites protested their arrival. The group also gathered outside the home of an interracial couple, chanting, beat it and we want you out. The same kind of thing happening to a family in Savage, Maryland. The family there says their son hates to leave home for fear of being stoned or spit on by white children in the neighborhood. the family has allegedly reported or has reported fifteen alleged incidents of harassment since january reaction what do you think of philadelphia savage everywhere you said before the show here we go again what do you think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=814.54,876.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e you said before the show here we go again what do you think well the problem is this the police are not protecting these people sufficiently i read in the paper where the police are where uh... the commissioner i don't know where it was but uh... some police commissioner said well you know we just have to catch them i don't understand that's not the problem you know here we are problem you're not gonna solve you're not gonna make people like each other but you've got to prosecute those that are not allowing these people. Yeah, but that's not the problem. You're not going to make -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=873.51,895.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e to live in peace here we are twenty twenty five years into the civil rights movement it was twenty years ago i saw on the tv during earlier in the week that the famous uh... ride on the bus in brimingham by what a mrs what's her name","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=899.97,912.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Grows upon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=912.93,913.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes and and here it is 20 years later we like to think that at least we're making some progress in dealing with each other things like this and it is kind of a racial basis, and we read things like this and it is kind of...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=913.27,925.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Isn't it ironic that in the city of brotherly love, people don't know how to act like brothers? You know, we're sitting here. And sisters, you know. Here are people just trying to live decently. You know, we're sitting here. and this is one of the things now it's one thing when people discriminate in housing samuel peirce who i work for is doing everything to end that but these people who are going on harassing people and throwing eggs at them these are criminals and the police needs to pick these people up and put them in jail and the police...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=925.97,953.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But you forget it's only been a few years since Rizzo was the was the candidate for mayor of the city of Philadelphia Who encouraged?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=956.22,963.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But you have a black man there now who bombs people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=963.8,966.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But you don't just because you change from a white mayor to a black mayor does not mean that the people follow along with you. You can watch that in Chicago with Harold Washington. Madeline, we can sit around the table here. Madeline!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=966.58,972.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e What I'm saying is...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=975.52,977.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e wait a minute i haven't finished what i'm saying is is the climate of the country is such that you can have a kkk rally in in frederick and have them have their headquarters there and nobody's too concerned about it you can have a president who is cutting back on civil rights legislation day in and day out through meath in regard to black and white people relationships and you don't say anything about it and so these people who are more illiterate. who have always had these kinds of family patterns, say, well, it's open season. Let's keep it up. Everybody else is in favor of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=977.77,1016.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e If they put some of those people in jail, start picking them up, putting them in jail and giving them stiff sentences, they're going to stop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1015.77,1024.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Reverend, I'm 100 %... 100%. favor of what you're saying. We can sit around this table and talk about civil rights for the last 25 years and all that. We're not going to change anything. President Reagan isn't going to change anything. You're talking about the civil rights. That isn't going to change anything. People are not going to like other people. We can't prevent those. There are people out there that, wait a There are people that hate. can sit around. who has changed things. There are people out there that wait a minute. Why don't we try and do something this family in Savage, Maryland doesn't want President Reagan to do something about it. They want immediate action. They want the police to protect them. They want these people picked up and prosecuted. There are enough crimes after they can be charged with this early conduct assault, lock them up and prosecute. Yes, that's true. from the police.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1024.48,1052.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that's true, they can do all of those things. We can't make people like each other. That's right. And if you put these people in jail, and all the neighbors in jail, you're not going to solve the problem. You're gonna solve it. You're gonna solve it. I'm not going to solve it by talking about it here, but the problem is one that Madeline suggests and that is that the wrong signals are being given out by the federal government. Excuse me, Mike, I'm not going to... And whereas a few years ago... This is not a federal problem. Wait, excuse me. What I'm saying is... This is a problem of the states and the local governments. St. George, let me finish. What I'm saying is the wrong signals are being given out. Here it is, almost 1986. There's a few. I'm safe. What I'm saying is that the - I run for it. and the local government. Signals that are a lot different than they were several years ago, and for some reason or other, I agree with Madeline for once if I like that people are not thinking correctly these days. That's what I like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1061.99,1104.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And let's add to this, let's add to this the fact that police departments are made up of people and of people who have certain racial discriminatory attitudes and so you call the police to come in who may not agree that these black people should live there. What do they do. They can drag their feet and say they have more important. Then get rid of them, then get rid of them! When you say that, most of the police that are in my district live in the county. Thank you, Ben.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1108.16,1130.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1135.09,1135.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e in the area where there is racism, in my district. And when you see what their attitudes are towards...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1135.21,1142.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeline, Madeline, they will not try that, I think, in the city of Baltimore because They were not Bishop Robinson won't let him do it. I don't think Mayor Schaffer will stand for it. And what those people need to do, they need to tell Wilson Good and the police that they want protection and then maybe if they don't get protection they ought to take it and start We'll see you around talking about... If they don't get protection, they ought to take it and start protecting themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1142.25,1162.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sitting around talking about wrong signals. I mean, President Reagan can change this by changing the Civil Rights Commission. I don't want to hear all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1162.56,1169.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e These people in Savage, Maryland don't want to hear all that. They want police protection. Let me ask you, let me ask this. We live in a black and white society. Wait a minute. Police protection. We have to, somehow or other, get over this feeling of disliking each other. I understand we agree with that. of disliking each other. And you're suggesting that putting people in jail is somehow going to make a difference in it. People are going to start liking each other. What I am saying to you is this. The emphasis is not on putting people in jail. The emphasis has to be on another factor altogether, and that is, what are we going to do to solve these problems? What are we going to do to make people feel better about each other? What are we going to do to? That's right. Don't to make people feel better about each other what are we going to do these problems in the future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1169.15,1205.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You've got a 15 -year -old kid that is afraid to leave his house. Do you think that you're making him feel better when you say, well, I'll tell you how to solve that, 15 -year -old. We'll all learn how to live together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1204.52,1213.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That isn't helping him today. Now, wait a minute. I'm not suggesting that anybody's going to wave a magic wand or their simple answers to these difficult problems. All I'm saying is we live in a society that we once thought was heading in the right direction. At least I did. We thought we were heading in a direction of getting along together. And when we see things like this, it is troublesome, because maybe we're not doing as well as we thought. That's right. We have to. We have to live together. You can't. That was a nice and simple answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1214.1,1223.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e doing as well as we have to. We have to live together. You cannot make people like each other. You can do the best you can, but you're not going to make everybody like everybody else. Therefore, there is a simple answer. Lock them up, prosecute them, and I bet they won't do it again. Well, you lock them up and prosecute them. They'll be crazy about their black neighbors. Yeah, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1235.89,1252.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e their black neighbors. Let me tell you the other thing too. You talk about Mayor Good and what happened with Move. He relied upon his police chief, just like you're saying that maybe Mayor Safer doesn't agree with it, which I doubt seriously, but he relied upon his police chief. What did his police chief do? He set out an incendiary bomb and the whole, it's not funny, but I'm trying to say that you can't rely upon the police to do the kind of interpersonal relationship that should go with the church, the home and the school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1254.15,1283.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e anybody that goes around throwing eggs at people calling people racial names and insulting them is breaking the law that's right we cannot ban discrimination like you want to ban guns sir i understand that we have to start doing something about it right we acknowledge that they're True, I ain't doing much to that. As criminals, we don't... Like you want to ban guns, sir. I understand that we have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1284.07,1301.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I acknowledge that they're criminals, and I agree with you. Let's lock them up. OK, now what's the next step? You're telling me that we're locking them up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1304.86,1310.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Now you're telling me that when we lock them up, the problem is solved. Now, the next step is, after they've served their time and they go back on the street, if they do it again, you lock them up again, and keep them there longer. We lock them up again. Now, the next - Okay, we lock them up, we lock them up again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1309.51,1319.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. Now tell me how that's gonna solve the problem. Tell me how, tell me how. He's gonna order his 15 year old. He's gonna send the right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1319.98,1325.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's going to send the right signals that you're talking about to the people on the street who like to do these sorts of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1322.07,1330.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll be back after this. Good night. I need to talk to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1330.03,1333.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e In reference to last week's program on teenage pregnancy, here's a letter from Sidney Beerman of Baltimore who writes, Alan Christian gave John Lofton the sound thrashing he fully deserved. It's time we stop coddling these evangelicals who are all palpable frauds with phony gods. Here's a letter from Leroy H. Reyes who says, after seeing Alan Christian ridicule John Lofton, I believe that Alan Christian should change his last name. Here is a letter from a concerned teenage mother who writes, I'm 13 -year -old, I'm a white American. who has a four -month -old son. There are a lot of us out there that everyone wants to ignore. If you can have places for drug addicts and drinkers, what's wrong with spending a little money for the future of our children? James F. Smith of Fort Washington writes to Squirrel and says, I liked Mr. Lofton's intellectual approach in dealing with the unsolvable problem of teenage pregnancies in this country. Louis P. Boeri of Baltimore. writes in regards to our discussion on hijacking two weeks ago i was appalled at the total illogic and animalistic vindictiveness displayed by your guest panelists on square off thank you too to jess mccade of baltimore peggy harrison of baltimore maryland muriel portisello of pasadena l robertson and t .e. jackson of washington and the many of you who are starting to write about our panelists and about our subjects here's the address we do want to hear from you square off WJZ -TV, Television Hill. Baltimore, Maryland 2 1 2 1 1 be sure to be here next Saturday night at 730 back by popular demand You'll have a group of kids the kids square off next Saturday at 730. Bye. Bye Tonight on Square Off, we talk about the crash of the DC -8 that took the lives of almost 250 American servicemen and women. And we ask the question on Square Off, do you feel the United States treats its enlisted men and women as second -class citizens? Elaine Stein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1344.63,1468.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e well you have the example in a chartered airplane that had a bad reputation i mean i think it's interesting because you would never find president reagan or any members of the cabinet or senate on those kind of airplanes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1469.03,1478.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Jim Fox. I agree we treat the military personnel as second class citizens and add to that the policemen and the firemen in this country as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1479.51,1486.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Carter clues. I believe they're treated as second class citizens, but I think it's a nature of the job and probably is irresolvable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1487.14,1492.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Isiah Fletcher. Richard, I don't think we have enough experience to say that you can apply a pot to the hole and say the hole is the same as the pot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1493.68,1500.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about the crash of the DC -8 and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. Wait, before we begin, Elaine was commenting on the music. Do you like the new music? Yeah. Have you not been on the set?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1500.71,1522.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e once, but I don't remember, we didn't have music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1522.61,1524.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We did have the new music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1524.5,1525.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e It's the second time I've been on this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1525.31,1526.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's nice to have you back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1526.56,1527.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e We're just chitchatting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1527.57,1529.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e and elaine will be here on a more regular basis now because of certain changes over at public broadcasting your show will be taped on a different night and you'll be here so for all of you who have demanded more of elaine stein we're gonna make you sick of her","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1528.59,1540.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what we're going to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1540.92,1541.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's get serious and talk about the crash of the DC -8. And first, welcome a new panel member, Jim Foxx, who is the general manager of V -104 Radio, a very outspoken person in our community. And he's here to talk about other things, and including cigarette advertising. Welcome to Squirrel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1541.85,1557.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much for having me. I've watched this show for many years and find it to be the most thought provoking, interesting show on Baltimore television.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1557.31,1565.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Why did you include policemen and firemen in your opening comment?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1566.18,1571.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e because i feel that anyone in this country that wears a uniform is considered a second -class citizen for some reason we don't respect a person in a uniform whether it be military policeman or a fireman and those people go out every day and later their life on the line for you me everybody on this panel","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1571.92,1587.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e You know if we're going to start talking about second class citizens you're going to cloud the issue when you talk about firemen and people in uniforms. We talked about the military and I don't think we have enough because of the crash while it was quite a catastrophe. We cannot say that generally servicemen are treated second class citizens. First of all because since the Second World War they have upgraded the military to the extent that they try to entice people to come in voluntarily and they have been able to do that because of the conditions. Now one plane comes down Granted it was catastrophic and yet at the same time when you compare those flights that have been made where people have not been hurt Then that number becomes small","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1588.68,1626.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Isaiah, won't you agree though, excuse me, that since Vietnam we just look at these people as second -class citizens?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1627.24,1632.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e no because of that war when you say second -class citizen first of all i don't have enough experience i don't think we we have enough experience to say what the military is like inside we can conjecture in terms of what we read in the paper but then here again that's in my judgment is clouded and we need to do a more in -depth study to do a more in -depth study.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1633.23,1647.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the image problem is real. But since Vietnam and the Vietnam era and the immediate post -era, it was very difficult. I think that part of it's improving. However, as long as the military has to operate in a system of need to know and command performances, those who receive those commands are going to have a second -class status in a democratic society. I don't think there's anything you can do about that. Can we f -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1648.11,1673.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Can we focus away focusing and then you can you comment on this on that DC aid apparently it had a lot of maintenance problems Apparently there are there were former people who worked on that plane who say it was not airworthy It shouldn't have been flown yet. We put 250 guys and women on there to save a lot of money. In fact the military See you guys in the next video. uses commercial planes to save the government billions of dollars","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1672.77,1692.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e But as I said before, do you ever find, I mean, there has not been, maybe in wartime you have had catastrophes with people who are in the high echelon, but name me one cabinet member, name me one member of the Senate or a president that's been on a plane Thank you for watching. that is that the plane has been in this condition i've read every single thing that's been written about this i've watched every single interview and have also uh... gone out of my way to investigate the thing thoroughly on my own just from all the newspapers from all over the country the point is that the plane had a bad reputation they even interviewed a former pilot who said that he absolutely left that airline because it was in such shoddy shape I mean, can you imagine, can you imagine? airline pilots waiting until they get on the plane to change their clothes and to sit down when the plane takes off with five minutes of preparation. and then to sit down when the plane takes off with five minutes of preparation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1693.02,1747.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e What you're doing, what you're doing again, you talk about the whole and then you pinpoint on one example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1747.76,1753.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e I think this is only one example. I don't think we've treated men, I don't think we've treated... No, again, again, when you say it, when you say it... 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NAME ME A CRIMEBUS","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1759.08,1768.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you reveal that you did the research? Oh, please don't be so hostile. I did research by reading the New York Times, the Washington Post, and reading all of the things that were available to us to read. In other words, I just didn't come here to... I was also... I, I only, I didn't... by reading the New York Times, The Walking Dead. and reading all of the things that were. uh... with the voice of america and i traveled overseas and i traveled at that precise time which was a long time ago we traveled on military planes and the military planes were i'm sure much more secure than these charters i mean so what i mean why what what is your hostility to ask the plane was a second rate plane the plane crashed and the president reagan does not go on these crappy uh... uh... chartered planes The plane was a second rate plane, the plane crashed, and the president...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1771.21,1808.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e chartered we're not talking about the president we are talking about I'm talking about the president","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1811.92,1816.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm talking about the president, he and his family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1814.9,1817.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Jim wants to talk, wait a minute I say, one second, because Jim has... I'd like to defend Elaine. Do you realize that that... You said defend her, what's your point of view? This particular plane has been in the air since 1969. It's had at least four separate incidents of problems all over the world. Flown thousands of miles. The pilot refused some inspection of the plane at the last minute, just before it took off and had the crash.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1819.25,1847.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e since nineteen sixty nine how many accidents had it had how many persons have been injured","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1847.91,1851.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e He had four close calls, isn't that enough, is that enough for you? And how many miles, how many miles can you put on a 1969 plane before you can't?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1852.2,1858.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e This week. This week. How many miles you put on your car before the car runs down? This week. This is when the car runs out. we celebrated the 50th year of the DC -5, I think. DC -3. DC -3. DC -3 -5, what's the number? Well, the fact is there was a plane, there was a plane which was celebrated 50 years. Now you laugh, but I'm trying to say to you that here's a plane that's been in operation. You had 10 ,000 of them made, you have 2 ,000 in circulation now, and they are 50 years old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1858.68,1882.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Now what's your point? I wouldn't fly one. I wouldn't fly one. About age. My wife would fly one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1883.55,1886.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the fact that you would fly one doesn't, Jim, the fact that you would not fly one does not say it's unsafe. A lot of things you wouldn't do that other people do. Would you drive a 50 -year -old car? Yes, if it was in good working condition. Would you drive a 50 -year -old car? but okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1886.54,1898.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, that's the point here. That's the point here. There's a question as to whether the plane was in good working condition. My objection is... support here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1897.89,1898.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e My objection is my objection to what Elaine is saying is the fact that she cites one example","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1902.06,1907.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think men and women in the service are treated properly anywhere in the world. What about when they were in Germany? The pay was so poor that these people were actually without money to feed their children in Germany. And it was scandalous, the servicemen that had to live in Germany during the inflation of two years ago when the dollar was low and the mark was high.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1908.46,1931.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e once again the the problem all of us agree on the problem the plane was rickety it probably should not have been in the air the way to solve the problem however is going to involve a major expenditure of money that problem the general problem you mean to make","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1932.37,1945.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You mean to make flying safer for our servicemen and women?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1944.76,1947.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e 50 % to make the line safer and to make the role of the military man enhanced is going to require massive billions of dollars expenditures. I don't think the American people are willing to do it, 50 % of the budget, 50 % of the military budget goes to the personnel. Alright, those are the choices that have to be made then. but richard said do you think fifty percent of the budget fifty percent of the military budget goes to the personnel one at a time all right those are the choices that have to be made then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1945.95,1965.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e richard's original statement was do you think the military are treated as second -class citizens i said yes i do","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1965.67,1974.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I said, yes, I do. 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Are you willing to increase the defense budget to accommodate those raises? Isaiah, when you talk about... trying to save.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1993.87,1994.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e When you talk about second -class citizens, let's look at the military. First of all, as you have in the private sector, you have a hierarchy. Now, the private is going to be treated differently than the lieutenant. The lieutenant will be treated differently than the captain and on of the line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=1998.1,2010.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And the PFCs go on these second -class plants? No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2010.69,2013.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm not there was an officer on that plane all officers on the plane also Richard So you're not talking about just all the pfc's the non -coms were on the plane and the officers were not that was not the situation It was a unit that was there and they had the officers with them So they died also now what we're talking about in terms of second class it all depends on where you stand if you are affluent and you're accustomed this this style of life to be served and People are serving you and taking care of you then fine. You look at this. You say second class But other persons will say, this is first class. It depends on where you're coming from. It's all relative.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2013.05,2043.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e we're gonna take a break when we come back we're gonna talk about the proposal to eliminate cigarette advertising from magazines and newspapers when we continue No, that's not it. All right, let's talk about this. The American Medical Association calls for a ban on all advertising and promotion of all tobacco products. Physicians say the reason is simple. They can't bear, they claim, to watch patients die from diseases that can be prevented. 350 ,000 people a year die from smoking -related diseases. And now there's a move underway to eliminate all advertising. It's been eliminated from radio and TV now from magazines and newspapers. Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2045.2,2095.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e carter what do you think i think that uh... it should not be eliminated i don't think the advertising promotion should be eliminated if cigarettes are going to be allowed i think cigarettes ought to be banned they're deadly they kill people they've been proven to cause disease they're poison and i think we've banned other poisons in this country that ought to be next and cut out the tobacco subsidies what about alcohol What about alcohol? It's sick. Alcohol can be next for all I care.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2095.03,2118.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you stop? What do you stop? Toy tanks? Lingerie? I'd stop it. Touchy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2119.35,2124.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd stop it. Touchy roll pops. Look, you're talking about poison in the system. Look, you're talking about the poison in the system. you're talking about we're talking about cigarettes alcohol is another matter i personally think it should be that's a personal opinion but on cigarettes there is overwhelming evidence that they cost the taxpayer billions of dollars a year trying to treat these people who smoke themselves to death or infirmity i don't think that's fair and i think we have to put a stop to it we ban thalidomide why not bit banned tobacco, it kills them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2123.19,2150.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e We ban thalidomide, why not ban tobacco, it kills and maims more. It brings in more taxes than a going out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2146.33,2152.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e What one of the how much is a human life worth Richard when you ask the question about the? Advertisements I think we're hitting the as Carter is saying we're hitting the the wrong problem Because first of all we have to prove that advertising does in fact cause The people to buy cigarettes cigarettes well not in terms of buying well People advise, take a rest. We're talking about youngsters. Well, it stimulates interest, but at the same time you have a choice of whether you want to buy or whether you're not going to buy. It is not the advertising. It is not the advertising that's killing people. It is the cigarette. It is the tobacco that's killing people. So why not concentrate on the problem which is people smoking and using tobacco. No one will touch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2152.98,2190.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e No one will touch the tobacco industry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2189.9,2191.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e will touch the tobacco industry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2192.13,2192.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e That gets government subsidies, funds millions, countless millions of dollars into political campaigns in order to continue subsidies so they can continue killing Americans. That's the only way to put it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2192.67,2204.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e i think americans have a right to have a choice and if somebody wants to smoke a cigarette and they know the danger is inherent with that they should have the right to do it likewise we have something more Likewise, we have some more of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2204.72,2212.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Do Americans have a choice as to whether they can use thalidomide? No. PCB? No. Poisons are poisons. A pure food and drug act should have outlawed tobacco from the beginning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2212.26,2220.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Without that choice to get it right under the counter and without that choice if you if you choice to get a right under the counter and without that choice if you if banned cigarettes. The criminal elements in this country are going to start manufacturing cigarettes, selling them on a black market, and make a hell of a lot of money at our expense. Well then let's let the bans on up and things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2220.93,2234.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Right along with the drugs and with all the drugs. It'll become a black market item along with the drugs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2232.24,2239.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, it will become a black, it's better to be a black or a white.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2238.74,2241.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e cocaine and everything else. You think it should be a black one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2241.44,2243.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I think I'd rather have it a black market item suppressed and arrest those who distribute them than to have it an open market item That kills and maims Americans and when you say it's their choice It would be their choice if they were only harming themselves, but they're not just harming themselves They're harming the entire economy the entire country well does affect others. It's not a victimless or a single","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2243.49,2264.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e If you if there is to be a ban on the advertising you're also going to affect affect the economy You're going to affect a lot of lives that really have no direct have no direct responsibility for the problem And that's what I'm saying now. We're talking about there's something more important in this country than Just talking about the tobacco. We're talking about the freedom of speech Excuse me for a second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2264.42,2286.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e They ban advertising in Europe. I know these people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2287.25,2289.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't have any cigarettes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2288.11,2290.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't have anything to eat for alcohol.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2289.85,2291.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e pushers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2291.59,2291.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they ban advertising of tobacco in Europe of cigarettes, and more people smoke today in Europe than ever before. Banning it is not going to cure them. I just got back from Europe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2293.359,2301.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I just got back from Europe, I know more people smoke there, there's a lack of awareness there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2300.36,2303.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e I will tell you one problem that disturbs me as much as I'm on my side of this issue. In the paper today I saw an ad and they have this warning that cigarette smoking causes cancer, heart disease and something with pregnancy, whatever. And on the package itself it has a warning it says it's hazardous to your health. It doesn't say it causes all this and I think that's wrong. I think they've got to get their act together. If they say something in advertising they've got to take whatever they said statement and put it back on the pack.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2303.89,2330.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e That's only one of four. They have four different warnings now. They have four different. One of them is causes. Because it does cause. I don't have any warnings to give about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2328.9,2332.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e What about butter? We should outlaw butter, because the cholesterol, I mean it's the American Heart Association, I mean I do, I mean we live in a free society, but I mean it's true! I'm taking it to an extreme. I am taking it to an extreme. What should we outlaw? I mean, it's true, but it's just taking it to an extreme. I wouldn't take it to an extreme. I wouldn't take it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2333.42,2347.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think it's taking it to an extreme, to ban? Let me just. Thanks for watching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2347.25,2350.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and then you can get into religion and everything else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2350.26,2352.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e Then you can get into religion and everything else. Should they ban PCV? Other poisons are banned because this poison is bringing revenue into people's pockets. All I say is we're politicians, they won't man. supporting politicians, they won't ban it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2350.63,2362.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Once you start the banning, once you start this ball rolling, where do you stop it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2362.47,2366.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e it's already started. Where do you stop it? It's already started. Where's it started? Do you have any thalidomide with you? Do you think you can buy thalidomide? Do you think you can buy PCB? There are plenty of articles that you cannot buy, so it's already started. Excuse me for a second. Bye! When were these drugs, or whatever they are, illegal to begin with? Thalidomide was legal in the early 1960s. PCB was legal up until five years ago. Heroin was legal in this country until the turn of the century. So it's already started. I say let's continue it in a logical fashion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2364.37,2393.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e I think we're getting away from the major point I agree with Jim in saying that it's like television. We talk about obscenity and pornography. An individual has a right to choose for himself or herself whether or not they will do that which is bad for them. We cannot have government always saying this is what I want you to do and therefore I want to control you by law. It's not just bad for them, it's bad for all of us. Well, Carter, you say bunk again because you share a point of view that says the government has to control our lives to a very large extent. And I am saying that the individual, I think you've got the wrong guy. The individual, but when you say bunk. It's not just bad for them, it's bad for all of us. our lives to a very large extent. And I am saying that the individual... I think you've got the wrong guy. I think you've got the wrong guy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2394.75,2430.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e I think the government should stay out as much as possible, but I think when there is a killer drug out there, that the government should step in. Not to protect the people who smoke it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2430.44,2438.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Alcohol is a killer drug.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2437.96,2439.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 10:\u003c/strong\u003e This is, if I may. If I may.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2439.55,2440.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Ban alcohol. Then it goes all the way down the line. I don't care. I don't have any problem with banning alcohol. Gentlemen, this is a couple minutes left. In terms of butter, I'd rather have more guns and less butter. You'll ban sex lives and everything else. Fine on two minutes. No, Elaine, I won't ban sex. I don't care! I don't have any problem with it! This is a. Couple minutes. You'll ban sex lives and everything else. 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I'm not paying it. and of course the theme of this season is always peace on earth goodwill toward men and women you think that can ever be achieved peace on earth how do you feel this during this holiday season impossible about that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2450.04,2468.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e It's worse now than ever before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2469.1,2470.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e we have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2472.09,2472.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e The world is in chaos, absolute chaos, worse than it was last year, the year before the It's just","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2472.13,2476.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e there's so many different sects and groups in the middle east running around killing each other Somebody's there. from the same religion but different sex once you get them going you got somebody else going","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2477.2,2486.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e And again, Jim, you also have Ireland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2486.55,2488.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e And South Africa, you know, we've got everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2490.09,2491.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e You also have South Africa, you have all the world, and then you have square off. the world. which is a microcosm of a microcosm. What do you mean by that? Well, because you're sort of serious. You're sort of serious. we have been friendly this evening and i think there is a natural in some instances animosity or a adversarial a natural adversarial relationship in some instances Thank you. Thank you. in some instances.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2489.99,2511.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, exactly. 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I like my dear like","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2554.63,2564.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e I lack a sense of humor. My dear, like I've been on him. You were at the top of the list. I've never seen you smile. I've known you for five years. I've never seen you smile. I've known you for five years. 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I think the... Go ahead, what do you think? When you say something funny, Elaine, I will smile. We're not going to have peace. Peace on earth or good will toward men, as long as Isaiah and Elaine are at the same table. Now, as long as the Soviet Union is making war upon its own people and every nation around it, one -third of the Afghan nation has been forced to flee its own borders. That doesn't result in peace.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2579.9,2602.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Isaiah and Elaine will not go out of here tonight and shoot each other or hit each other, but others will. There's people out there tonight who are killing, raping, maiming, robbing, stealing, whatever it is, and that's the problem. And if you solve all the problems in the world, you've got to come back to the United States and let's grab that and keep on going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2602.92,2618.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 11:\u003c/strong\u003e in this country we have a war going on also we have an ethnic war going on we have a color war going on we don't use bullets but it is just as vicious it is just as vicious because it does affect the lives of people you don't kill people only physically you kill them psychologically and in this country there are people who have been killed psychologically","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2617.19,2637.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e When we come back, we'll dip into our mail bag. We got hundreds of letters last week. We'll read some of them in just a moment. Thanks for watching! In reference to our show two weeks ago on gun control, here's a letter from Elise Weems of Baltimore who writes, doesn't Reverend Cross practice what he preaches on faith? Doesn't he believe that God will take care of him or is he becoming a pistol -packing preacher? Here's a letter from 11 -year -old Evan Serpig of Baltimore who says, the show on handgun control was very interesting. I think that handguns should be outlawed and the laws should be much tougher. In reference to our Teenage Square Off last week, B .J. Carter of Henderson, Maryland rights. I found Hossan Murphy's repeated suggestions for separate but equal educational facilities for students with AIDS totally amusing. It's been done. And Jeanette Victor of Snow Hill, Maryland writes, Oh, how I wish the young folks were on every Saturday night. Your program is great, but it's the young folk who make my evening. How do you feel about that? Write to this address. Square Off, WJZ -TV, Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland, 21211. We all wish you a very Merry Christmas from Square Off. next saturday night at seven thirty we review the news events of nineteen eighty five stay tuned now for the lot of america","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2637.91,2709.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2736.22,2736.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e If you have an item to sell or trade, send a postcard to PeopleAreTrading, WJZ -TV, Baltimore, Maryland, 2 -1 -2 -1 -1. Include a description of the item, its cost, and your name and phone number. We cannot accept houses, cars, or dealer trades. Sorry, we cannot guarantee airtime. And that's what people are trading today, and remember, it's absolutely free.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2760.41,2782.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And now we glide into your homes with one of the superstars of skating in all the world. She won the Olympic silver medal in Sarajevo last winter. Wish she'd have won the gold. And she's with Walt Disney's World on Ice, which opens tonight at the Civic Center through January 20th. Let's give a real warm Baltimore welcome to Waziland Sumner. Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2790.85,2809.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Hello.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2810.12,2810.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e And we have two fans who are interested in asking you questions. Hello. Hi. And what would you like to ask, Rosalind? Have you ever received a 10 and if so...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2812.61,2823.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e So how did you feel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2823.98,2824.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e And in skating, we don't go through 10s. We have the highest you can get as an amateur is 6 .0. And it's very rarely, except for the British dance team, who had quite a few 6 .0s, a lot of skaters don't get them. And I had one at the Olympics. And that was, I think, one of the most thrilling moments in my life so far.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2825.77,2844.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And your question, did you have one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2844.73,2845.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 14:\u003c/strong\u003e What age did you start skating when you, what age did you start skating? I started when I was seven. How old are you? How old are you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2846.3,2855.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Sex. Are you skating? Do you like it? Yes. Wow. Now you know where you can end up, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2856.58,2864.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Good luck to the two of you. Let's give them a nice hug. Let's give them a round of applause.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2864.11,2865.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2865.94,2865.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's great to have you with us. Will your heart close in the Jordanian, the gold, and Sarajevo?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2866.899,2871.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I wasn't really. It's amazing the reaction that people, with the Olympics, the difference between a gold and a silver, people can think it's such a major disappointment. And I think there's always a feeling of a little disappointment when you don't make the ultimate goal that you set out for yourself. But I've always been happiest with my skating when I've I skated my best and I skated well and I was happy and it wasn't that, you know, really that disappointing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2871.5,2897.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll question quickly about the tension at that moment when you are definitely on and it is now. I'm definitely on it. Tell us about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2898.51,2906.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e you prepare yourself? Well I always get nervous for a competition and the last four years I'd been working with a sports psychologist basically on learning the skills how to relieve the tension and the nerves and how to deal with the pressures and I think that at that moment there was really nothing I could do it didn't really matter how much training physically or mentally I had put into it at that moment I it was the first time in my skating career that I'd been really scared to compete and just going out there was really facing the challenge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2907.04,2934.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The tensions, a lot of deep breathing and exercises, meditating and so forth?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2935.35,2939.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e not really meditating just uh... basically learning how to the deep breathing and through the breathing with uh... just a lot of talking to myself in my mind anyone can go in there and i think they'd think i was real crazy but you need that you have to get really in touch with yourself well now we have a clip","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2940.21,2955.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e of your performance and we will have an opportunity to see that right now","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2956.6,2961.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We're gonna hold it for just a second because we're in a special report also. So is that is that what we're doing? All right, we're going to just wait one second. All right, let's hold the clip up so we can actually see it in just a second. Let's talk a little bit more about how you got started. We're on, OK. Oh, yeah. We're on, okay. Oh yeah. Don't worry about that. How did you get started in this whole business of skating? How many hours a day were you spending on this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2961.509,2987.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e We had friends when I was seven that clipped a coupon out of the newspaper for a free public session on a Sunday afternoon and I was real hyper, had a lot of energy, so my mom decided that was a good idea to put my energies into something constructive. She didn't know that that was going to take 13 years and would ultimately end at the Olympics, but I just, I liked it so much and I was so attracted with the way the blades supposedly were supposed to glide on the ice and I wanted to make them glide and that's all it took. You know one thing that's really amazing to me","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=2988.17,3016.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e the opportunities that pop up, you know, like this one, a coupon out of the newspaper, that opens up a whole world to you. And in situations like that, it's almost like a duck taking to water. Is that the way you reacted to being there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3017.819,3031.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e i think that way i i just took it because it was just i don't know it was love at first glide i guess it was something that it was in me and i had to do and it was just something that you know it just kept no one mapped out thirteen years career you know and it's something that's gonna go on probably for the rest of my life it's just something that i loved and i wanted to pursue it and just kinda kept going","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3032.03,3052.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So how many hours a day preparing for the Olympics do you have to practice?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3052.58,3056.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e On Ice, it was about eight hours a day, and that's divided between the compulsory figures and the freestyle, which is, you know, the fancy jumps and the moves. And, but for me, it was 24 hours a day because it was mental and emotional, and I was doing ballet and jazz and aerobics, and it was a full thing for me. Where did you have time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3057.87,3077.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e time to be a little girl growing up and playing with your friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3077.96,3081.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e And boyfriends. And boyfriends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3082.94,3083.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e and boyfriends and boyfriends i never did i never at the end of eighth grade it was basically when the career was really starting to take shape and you know the olympics were starting to unfold between it before us and um... i had the the decision to make whether i wanted to continue with regular you know everyday school or work with tutors and go through correspondence and um... i really now don't remember making the decision but it was just so spontaneous i said you know i want to be on the ice all day long I want to do a correspondence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3082.98,3111.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You gotta love it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3111.93,3112.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e So that was it, all I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3112.41,3113.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We've got some young skaters, I guess, at the microphone who have some questions for you. Hello.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3113.77,3117.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e I was just going to ask you like, I guess you just answered my question, did you cut out your social life totally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3118.41,3123.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I really did. And it wasn't, a lot of people asked me if that was a major sacrifice, but when you're doing something that you love so much and I had so many goals in front of me that I didn't consider myself missing out. But I did because I didn't go to school and even when I did go it was only for a half an hour a week or something. So I never had a chance to get to meet people. And as far as you said about boyfriends, I didn't, I started dating just like maybe a year ago.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3124.4,3149.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How was that? Did you like dating? Did you feel like you've missed out on something or did you enjoy dating?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3150.24,3153.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e Well I didn't really date because the boy that I met, you know the young man that I met or whatever, he's still in my life and so I never really dated, it was, it was just kind of, it was like skating, I found love at first sight. Love at first sight, yeah. Love it first to glide.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3154.5,3165.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And your question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3166.94,3167.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e How did skating affect your schoolwork? Well the whole time when I started doing correspondence I never had grades. It was really just pass or fail. So all I had to do was the work and I felt that my education did start to slip a little because I was spending so much time on the ice and my mind was so much into that that I was really putting the hours into the schoolwork but I wasn't really. Thanks for watching! retaining it a lot and so I would like to go back to college because I was a good student in school and I got good grades but I think I missed out a lot in the last couple years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3167.62,3198.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you both very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3199.68,3200.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e And now let's take a look.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3200.91,3201.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Look at that clip. I was just coming around to it. I tell ya. I tell ya. It's a little dizzy even watching. What is different about skating professionally?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3201.66,3277.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 15:\u003c/strong\u003e It's taken a little bit to get used to. I think basically just because I'm not really focusing on training anymore. And I'm not really reaching right now towards an ultimate goal. I haven't really set an ultimate goal for myself. It's basically a maintenance thing. And you're performing 12 times a week. And it's basically now performing for an audience, which is very exciting. And I love that. It's a lot easier than skating for nine judges. 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And I've had a lot of help and insight with my mother because we just did what we felt was the best for the career at the time. And at the Olympics, I didn't have that many people. It kind of got a little blown out of proportion. But I did have my sports psychologist with me. And I was working with two skating coaches at the time. And a ballet teacher was there. A lot of them came just to witness me competing. You know, and it just... You know what I mean? it was taken more that I had to have this entourage of support.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3318.11,3346.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well I'm gonna come, we have to go see Disney. I love Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse and maybe Mickey Mouse will make a special appearance on our show at the Civic Center tonight through January the twentieth. Take all your little friends and go see Rosalind and the others. Wonderful world of Disney all night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3347.46,3362.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll be right back right after this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3363.08,3364.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3364.25,3364.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 12:\u003c/strong\u003e While staying in Baltimore, people are talking, guests are chauffeured by Sun Limousine Service serving the greater Baltimore area. 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Oh, you look great. Look at that smile.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3526.339,3535.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 13:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, proud of his skating too, aren't you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349#t=3535.36,3537.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144635/file/267349/transcript/77347/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Hey, tomorrow at nine, Mickey and Rosalind, we're gonna have Frederick Davies, the astrologer to the stars. 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Hello, this is Beverly Burke on Channel 13's People Are Talking and we're making a Dolly for Dollars call. Is this 828 -5113? Would you know the count and the amount in our Dolly for Dollars jackpot? Well, it was $711. But we're putting your number right back in the box and giving you an opportunity to win another time. Okay, have a good day. Bye bye. $724 in our Dowling for Dollars jackpot right now. Let me tell you what's coming up next Tuesday. On People are Talking, you can get tips on winning on your taxes. That's right, we're gonna have an expert here, Dennis Kaminsky. And tax time is right now, so why not get all your receipts together and be prepared to be a part of our studio audience or call in and find out exactly how you can make the most money out of your income tax with our tax expert, Dennis Kaminsky. Thanks for watching! Do it before it's too late. He'll be with us next Tuesday. 4813 ,000 for free tickets. 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