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We don't want a picture of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=1.08,1.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If you recall, if you recall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=2.69,3.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I've forgotten, I've forgotten.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=3.03,3.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e what I said, that the easiest part of doing these things is the now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=4.55,7.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Mm -hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=8.2,8.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's the vent, it's the heart, right, and if I was, I said it, so that's basically what we'll talk about and just give me a Mary had a little lamb so I can get a quick sound level. Mary had a little lamb.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=8.77,26.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Try it one more time. Try it one more time. and her fleece was white as snow. That's all I remember. Now your name is what? Pierce Flanagan. Spell Pierce. P -I -E -R -C -E. I spell Flanagan. F -L -A -N -I -G -A -N, the third.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=27.54,44.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The, uh... P. Flanagan, is it P. Flanagan and sons?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=49.05,54.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The P. Flanagan was Patrick Flanagan, who was my great -grandfather. He had three sons, Pierce, Edward, and Leo. And then my father was also Pierce, and I'm Pierce, and I have a son who's Pierce IV.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=55.94,70.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Now you're great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=71.24,71.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e father started his business. He started the business in 1885. He'd come to Baltimore about 1865, just after the Civil War, as an Irish immigrant and established a grocery store and then established a construction company.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=72.41,91.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Eric Flanagan came to this country from Ireland in 1865. That's right. Twenty years later he started his own paving business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=92.98,103.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Paving business. That's correct. Actually, the first thing he did was he installed some sewer lines in Charles Street in Baltimore, and he actually charged people to hook up to him. This was prior to the city providing any sewer service in Baltimore. 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What did they use for paving back then?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=175.4,181.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the original roads were paved with granite blocks, what people call cobblestones, that are actually cut granite blocks and were brought down from either New England, New Hampshire in particular, or up from Georgia. And we have a picture of a schooner that my great -grandfather had chartered and was delivering paving blocks, Belgian blocks, to Baltimore. to use for road construction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=182.1,211.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you know where? No, I don't know where that is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=212.71,214.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know where those went, but I know that we did that for a long time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=213.79,217.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e and then eventually your great grandfather or your grandfather started an asphalt","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=219.52,226.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well my great grandfather got into the asphalt paving business at some point around the turn of the century and we have some photographs that we believe are from about 1910 of an asphalt plant that was a railroad plant. In other words the plant would be moved by rail close to the location of the road and the gravel and stone and liquid asphalt would be delivered to the plant. And we have pictures of that plant in operation and hauling hot mix asphalt by mule wagon out to the location of the road.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=227.29,263.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e instead of building a plant somewhere, you just move the plant wherever the job was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=265.26,269.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's correct. Wherever the job was, we've moved the plant to that location.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=269.95,273.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So I guess that saved on mule power, huh?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=274.25,276.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, obviously with the mules hauling asphalt, there was a limit to how far you could haul it before it became un -economical or before the hot asphalt cooled off too much to use.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=276.85,286.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So the construction company back then, at least the paving company back then, were more or less forced to use that kind of ingenuity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=287.21,294.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. They were really inventing a lot of the process of road building as they went along.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=295.95,300.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well now, isn't that same process sort of used today? I mean, don't they kind of like manufacture the asphalt right there on the road? 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Your family was one of the first to purchase a dump truck in this area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=343.02,358.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We believe we owned the first dump trucks in Baltimore City, and we have pictures of them with my great grandfather in the pictures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=359.11,366.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you recall what other kind of equipment you guys were first at?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=366.81,370.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, my father believes he's the first person who had a mechanical paver, a machine that actually lays the asphalt to grade in Baltimore City, and that was in the 1930s. Prior to that, the asphalt was actually raked out by, spread by shovel and raked out by hand. But the paver had a screed that actually put the paver in place, put the asphalt place by machine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=372.59,400.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So P. 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And my great -grandfather and his sons were very involved in the cleanup of the fire, after the fire, and in the reconstruction of the city. And in fact, my great -uncle, my great -uncle Ed, tells a story how he was involved in dynamiting buildings in front of the fire. And at one point, he was carrying a box half filled with dynamite. over his shoulder, and he looked up and he saw an ember had landed in the box, which he immediately dropped, knowing that there was some chance that it would explode, but a more likelihood that the dynamite would just burn, and in fact it just burned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=424.12,468.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You got into the business, now you are what, you are the third generation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=470.34,473.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm the fourth generation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=474.22,474.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e fourth generation and you got into the business world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=474.71,477.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I came to work in 1965 immediately after graduating from college. 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So we have to compete in our market, and it's a very competitive market, but our intention is to keep doing it and stay in this area in the highway construction business and for the foreseeable future. And I have four children and I don't know whether any of them will be interested in the business or not, that's up to them, but that's my plan for the time being is to continue the family business and do as well as I can in the construction business in Baltimore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=499.26,557.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So being a good old Baltimore business doesn't guarantee that you're going to continue being a good Baltimore business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=559.64,566.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely, it's a very competitive business with plenty of turnover and just by being well established doesn't guarantee you success. 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Baltimore's been here for well over a hundred years, since it's grown, and it has a lot of old infrastructure, streets, water systems, sewer systems that need upgrading. The city, of course. does that continually, but as you ride around there are a lot of streets in the city of Baltimore that I think are pretty rough. The state of Maryland has its highway system I think in very good shape, but it is faced with some major capacity questions. 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Maryland can only grow if we have a good transportation system, a great transportation system, which we have now. And the challenge is going to be to keep it properly maintained and expanded to take care of the growth which is occurring in this state. In the 19...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133#t=720.83,807.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144544/file/267133/transcript/77234/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Fayette Street, 1930s. This was the first dump truck a Packard bought in 1914. Okay, this is that same Packard, only now it's working. 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