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And tonight, we begin by talking about the president's commission on AIDS. They submitted their report on Tuesday. And tonight we ask those of you at home and those of you on our square off panel, your reaction to President Reagan's reaction to the AIDS Commission report that he got?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=59.93,78.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it just shows that the evaluation of the importance and the seriousness of this disease in the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=78.41,84.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Margaret Fountain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=85.7,86.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it continually defines the administration's lack of leadership in this epidemic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=86.78,90.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Period. Reverend Peter Waldron.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=91.16,92.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The president addressed the main problem with the AIDS Commission report. That is, it failed to protect the American people. And Ron.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=93.02,99.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Smith.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=99.44,99.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it once again points out that AIDS remains the only virus ever to be granted civil rights. Well, talking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=100.07,105.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e About AIDS and other subjects in the news tonight, as we see where all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=105.86,110.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e One could even get what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=117.9,118.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm Richard Sher Welcome to square off. What is the problem with you and Ryan? You're already having a problem about the AIDS proposal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=118.8,125.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I just think it's interesting and I think it's also tragic that at a period when we have a worldwide epidemic, that we have like a leadership in terms of recognizing the importance and the seriousness of this problem. And because of that, I get very concerned because we still think and I really think that the president's decision on this certainly points out the fact that Americans probably still think that it's a gay problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=125.82,149.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Primarily.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=150.42,150.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It is not a gay problem. I'm telling you that we are finding out now after a decade of looking at this disease, that it is now being transferred to the heterosexual community. And unless we do something about it, your children, my children, other people's children are going to be infected and they're not gay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=151.05,166.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e With all due respect, Margaret, the problem with the AIDS virus for the last ten years is that it has been unchecked and we have not moved decisively against the homosexual community of which represents 80% of them carrying the virus. What happened is that because of individuals like yourself who would advocate protection of the homosexuals right to sodomy in their perverted sex style life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=166.5,186.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that, you know, I think when.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=187.14,189.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You finish what has happened is that we allowed these people to continue with their sodomite behavior. As a consequence, they have produced a disease which is affecting all of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=190.5,200.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And then let me tell you, we don't know where this AIDS virus come from. We just happened, my sister.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=200.61,205.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We do know that 80% of the people that have AIDS are, in fact homosexual. That we do know. 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The president, for instance, orders that carriers of AIDS and the AIDS virus ought to be protected in the federal workplace, but did not endorse such legislation to all people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=246.72,257.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But you talk about begging the question. The real question is this. The fact is that we as a society and our leadership has no idea what to do about the AIDS virus. 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But it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=298.5,300.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But the answer is you'd have no cigaret smoking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=300.72,302.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'm not so sure about that. I mean, you can't compare cigaret smoking to aids.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=302.97,308.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it kills far more people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=308.49,309.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e One simple question that is if you think that it's a homosexual disease, what do you propose that we do about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=310.74,317.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe that there are three avenues of pursuit. The first is, of course, to demonstrate compassion for those who are already victims of the AIDS virus. Number two, I believe that we need to contribute research moneys. But number three, we must have a consideration for those who have not got the disease and design a protection program for them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=317.4,334.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e In what way? Well, you're not saying anything that's not already been done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=334.47,338.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e We have not we have not seen a definitive program for protection. As an illustration, it should be unlawful for a homosexual to contribute blood. Or the American Red Cross continues to advertise in homosexual newspapers for blood donor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=338.55,349.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Panels to bring out the homosexual community. Some people don't even know that they're homosexual. Some people are not practical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=350.13,355.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e People do not know they might have enough to deal with a sex partner. If I may be so bold to suggest that homosexuality is defined by an act, not a thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=356.28,363.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Focusing back back on the president's reaction, the leadership that he is demonstrating by his reaction to the AIDS Commission report. Can we talk about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=364.08,373.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Disappoints it disappoints people on the right. But politically speaking, I think the president's doing the correct thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=374.01,379.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, when you say politically speaking, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. There is legislation in a number of states that has already been had already been adopted to protect victims of of AIDS. And what the commission had recommended to the president is that the federal government do something similar, and that is take the initiative to sponsor legislation that would make it illegal to discriminate against people who have the disease. And I understand what your glib comment at the outset, that this is the very first disease, that first time ever that a disease would get the status of a civil right. Right. But the the issue has very little to do at this point with the points that that Peter raised. As far as I can see, the issue now is as a political one, The president that the president faces, does he have does the federal government have the courage, particularly at this stage of the year, to do what has to do to protect these unfortunate people who are afflicted with this disease? And and I am no more an advocate of of the way that sodomy and the way that the disease is transmitted than Peter is. However, I don't see that as.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=380.19,451.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Being an.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=452.31,452.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Issue statement. That's an incorrect statement. We don't know that that AIDS is transferred through homosexual laws.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=452.64,460.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we know you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=460.89,462.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There's another statement that you're making, and that is that it's affecting the heterosexual community or that they fear that much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=462.45,468.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=468.41,468.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The empirical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=470.04,470.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Evidence that I have seen indicates, as Ron says, it is much less so than was thought several years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=470.76,475.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Ago. Then, Ron.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=476.19,476.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It is clear from all of the research medically and otherwise, that homosexuals are not the only ones who are transfer in this virus. We do not know where this virus initiated. We do not know how it began. We don't have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=476.79,489.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e This country and we know that it has festered within the whole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=489.39,491.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Place. It just happens to be that the homosexual community seems to be the group that has the virus, the mouth. Now, the point is that we don't have all the answers about this virus. So I think is prudent on this administration. May I finish to do something about this problem? Additionally, if the commission had not thought that it was a problem with these people being discriminated against, they would not have recommended that the federal government do something about it. 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We know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=519.69,529.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But that does not solve the problem. The problem is now that it's in the heterosexual community, what do we do about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=530.04,535.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not the problem this round. The problem is that there is a disease that we don't have any idea how to cure. And the focus ought to be on how do we go about curing this disease, finding some way to prevent its spread and which I and we have to think in terms of a massive attack and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=536.1,553.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e A War Commission's report. And the commission's report is a confession, as I said at the outset, that there is shared confusion about what to do, nothing more, and virtually nothing is being a continued ignorance as to the causes. The doctor is raising The issue of the AIDS virus and how it is spread requires that we take definitive action to protect the general public from the spread of disease that may require segregation of them, who, in fact who have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=553.74,580.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Not worked here, of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=580.86,582.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Closely will not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=582.44,582.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Be you to find them. How do you get at the group of people? This is my.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=582.84,586.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Point. All we need to do is identify them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=586.32,588.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Who have the virus, unify.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=588.87,590.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Them all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=590.63,591.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e One has to begin to watch, for it is a breakdown. The immunity system. People who have the AIDS virus. You're suggesting that I am saying that we should segregate or in some way put in concentration camps the homosexual community. I'm not saying that those who have the disease need to, in fact, use protected.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=591.3,606.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Problem if it was that simple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=717.03,718.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I passed on the girl.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=718.63,720.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e During the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=721.29,721.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Break. Obviously, the discussion continued, and now Ron and Margaret and the rest are into a debate about how men see the world as as black and white. But women don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=721.56,730.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I didn't say that. I said they have a tendency to do that. It is not just black and white, as this issue is not. If it was that simple, I'm sure we'd have an answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=731.31,739.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I think, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=740.66,741.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think exactly the opposite. I think exactly the opposite, that women see things as you describe it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=741.45,747.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Like black in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=747.84,748.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Texas, there's a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=749.12,749.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Tent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=750.29,750.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e City. Can we drive? Let's go to Ocean City, where earlier this week the state ACP said that it is planning a campaign to patronize businesses that hire minorities down there. Meanwhile, the Worcester County ACP is planning a Labor Day protest march in Ocean City, despite what the state chapter plans to do there. A low number of blacks in significant jobs down at the beach. Survey last month estimated that 1.8% of Ocean City's resort tourists are black. But the negative perceptions about hiring practices there are costing businesses down the ocean $58 million a year in black vacation dollars. And on a range of things to say about. Yeah, well, the whole idea first of all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=751.83,790.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Dare we say the truth, that Ocean City is virtually a lily white resort and that that's one of the things that whites who go there like about it, Dare we say that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=791.64,801.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know that it's a question of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=801.78,802.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you saying that is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=803.46,804.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Untrue? I'm saying that that's historically the case. You can look it up as Casey Stengel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=804.33,808.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, historically it was a white Christian place to do vacation. That's true. That is true. As Jews, Jews did not go to the city. Many anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=808.59,817.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=817.89,817.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Right today, for probably reasons based on economics, just ravage as many Jews as, uh, as Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=818.37,828.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's still, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=829.29,830.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It's all, it all, it all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=831.03,832.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, exactly. And I think that's what will solve the problem of economics. I think that once people began to our size or not go to those businesses that do not hire minority people, whether they be black, Hispanic or whatever, I think they will start to feel it in their pocket and I think they will do something. What do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=833.25,848.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You make of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=848.52,849.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e When only 1.8% of the people who visit Ocean City are black in the first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=849.39,852.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Place? You know, the boycott and the boycott, the boycotts that have worked in the civil rights movement work, because in Montgomery it was a real threat. If you would lost the black business in that town, you lost a lot. But if you lose the black business and the towns such as Ocean City, in reality, you're not losing the business. People are not. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=852.69,869.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I saw that $50 million.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=870.3,871.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know how that 58 million.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=871.71,872.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I mean, I think that your presuppose that a lot of white people don't think that prejudice is bad. I think they do. And I think that publicity about this will affect the way that they will visit that town. And hopefully that will be the case because what are we want in a society? Do we want a society that decides that they're going to do this, this and this for one segment of that society or what? And I think we have to think in those terms, not because people have dark skin, white skin or whatever skin, but because it just makes human sense. Well, it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=873.27,899.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Would be nice if that were. So we applaud the in the ACP for its initiatives in Ocean City. But on practical, it won't have any effect at all. The black community will continue to remain away from Ocean City. We'll continue to see it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=899.07,911.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Even if more blacks are placed in more significant jobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=912.39,915.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Where they go away from the labor pool. But as the labor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=916.41,918.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Going, you know, you what you're overlooking is this It is a start and an evolutionary process. That's right. And I, I don't believe that the NAACP thinks that by this boycott that next year, 50% of the people vacationing in Ocean City will be black. But it is a scar and there's going to be maybe in 15 or 20 years as a result of this, the next steps along the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=919.2,941.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There's going to be more awareness that it's because there are plenty of jobs in Ocean City. Every summer there's going to be more awareness on the part of employers that if if blacks coming to apply for a job, that they should be given some consideration for it and perhaps hired.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=941.82,952.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We live in a we live in a multiracial, pluralist Pearl Harbor. This not an ocean society. And it ought to it ought to extend not only to our everyday life, but where we go for vacation. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=953.55,966.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We have 5 minutes left. I want to touch on two subjects. George Bush is running, mate. Should it be Elizabeth Dole, Robert Dole, Jeane Kirkpatrick, others? Howard Baker. What do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=966.15,975.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Robert Dole. He's already taken Gerald Ford down. He cost him the election. Was he now going to cost George Bush the election? Robert Dole is not the person. I don't think he is a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=976.35,986.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Genius, but I don't think that whomever George Bush chooses as a running mate will make a difference with him. I think that people will vote for George Bush as president. Whether he choose whomever for vice president will not make a difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=987.75,998.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You think he's going to beat Dukakis?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=999.05,999.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I certainly do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1000.44,1000.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. But the say Margaret's absolutely right. The whole idea of the vice presidential selection as being so key to a ticket success or failure is absolute nonsense. It happens very rarely. The fact if that were the if that were the fact, why would Dukakis have picked Lloyd Benson? He picked Lloyd Medical to his own position on almost everything of significance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1001.13,1020.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But he picked him for good political reasons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1021.69,1023.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Graphic reasons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1023.97,1024.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Geographic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1024.93,1024.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Texas is still a big shot. That's a long shot, Peg, You say maybe that'll help us take Texas, which is a key, because no Democrats won the presidency without carrying Texas. But still, Texas remains. You know, remember George Bush, That's his home state, too. I believe there's I believe this particular race is an exception to the idea of the importance of a vice president. George Bush requires the participation of every active member of the Republican coalition to win. And he has alienated a number of conservatives by some of his initiatives. As a consequence, he's alienated Democratic, doesn't serve it. He must need. He needs to choose a conservative in order to placate the coalition, in order to win. So he can't afford to alienate Jeane Kirkpatrick, John Ashcroft, Bobby Jindal, Patrick, Missouri. You know, one of the problems is George Bush doesn't like any of the people that we have mentioned or a person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1025.47,1074.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Like Lee.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1075.87,1077.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Atwater is asking the same question tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1077.88,1079.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you're overlooking something. And it's this four.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1080.04,1081.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Days before the convention, Ronald.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1081.96,1082.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Reagan has been so successful in terms of being elected because of the Democratic support, the crossover Reagan Democrats. Those Reagan Democrats are what and that's what I'm saying contributed to his success at the polls in the last two elections. Now, the Democrats have to get those people back voting Democratic. And so the Republicans have to be thinking not about a conservative, not a conservative. The conservative votes are already in the Bush camp. They're not going to vote. The GOP have to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1083.13,1111.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Back to the Reagan Democrats are concerned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1111.51,1113.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But they have to. They have to. I believe the opposite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1113.49,1115.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1116.61,1116.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The larger the largest segment of people not participating in the vote is the stay home vote. It's not the Democrats are crossing over. It's the people who are not voting. Bush has to find a candidate who can bring the people off the sofa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1117.27,1130.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Into the booth. Well, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1131.58,1132.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't think it's quite because I think most of those are going to be women. And I think women in large do not support that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1132.63,1137.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e 84. They didn't support Reagan, and Reagan won 47 to 40.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1138.07,1141.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We must bring the Holy Grail, ladies and gentlemen, tonight with a very serious subject. This is the proposed bare chest bill in Annapolis, a bill that has come before the city council there that would ban bare chests on three streets along the Annapolis waterfront. Those who would not wear shirts could face misdemeanor charges carrying a maximum fine of $100 and or 90 days in jail. Your reaction, Reverend Peter?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1141.45,1166.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e All modesty is prudent for any growing community, and I believe the mayor has again introduced with the city council's approval, a bill that is modest and it's important. I think it's proven. I like to sit and eat and watch people walk around with no clothes on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1166.47,1178.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, when not talking about no clothes, what about the ACLU?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1178.98,1180.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Some people should keep their shirts functional and wear robes and helmets. And there are some people do not look good with their shirts off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1181.62,1188.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I might think that You may look well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1188.63,1190.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You may. Oh, with your shirt off. I do not look good with my shirt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1190.5,1192.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm speaking to Mary Margaret.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1192.93,1193.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And to Margaret.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1193.98,1194.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Shame on you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1194.91,1195.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1195.6,1195.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, on a serious note, I think that the community has the right to set standards for attire on its on its public streets and especially in business district. The businesses there bar people without shirts or without shoes from coming in. I see nothing really wrong with that as an attempt to to have a little more decorum in the party.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1196.59,1210.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's discriminatory because it says that people who are on ladders or up on buildings, who are on that same street can also go without their shirts. I think that if you're going to have a law, make it all encompassing so people don't feel discriminated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1210.75,1222.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They're not trying to stop workmen from painting without a shirt on. What they're trying to stop are youngsters from walking around with cans of beer in their hand making comments to women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1222.63,1229.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Not to say that presupposes that where insurance is associated with drinking beer and being rowdy. It does not compute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1230.37,1236.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And. Well. Well, I don't know, because I don't think there's really one that would object to modesty. 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It doesn't solve the problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1242.01,1258.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You say it doesn't solve the problem, but there is much to be said about establishing rules of behavior and decorum. And it does have some psychological it could have some impact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1258.99,1267.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not disagreeing with you and the emphasis is wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1268.41,1271.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Why limit it to the three streets at the waterfront? Why not limit it? You know, I'm not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1271.71,1275.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Saying I'm not saying I'm in favor of it or nor nor do I, nor do we know whether the other councilman in Annapolis or in in Rochester right now is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1276.06,1285.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e In Rochester, New York. Three years ago, women protested the fact that men could be topless in a public park in Rochester by staging a well-publicized peel off, whatever you want to peel off. Yes. And several women took off their tops and stood around as crowds of people gathered all go and say, you know, our fans are there. No, no. But let me let me point out what's happened because is very interesting. They did it again last year and they did it again this year. And guess what? Hardly anyone paid any.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1286.11,1312.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Attention.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1313.11,1313.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e This time. And that's that's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1313.8,1315.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A. What it act. They don't advertise it on it. Would you have gone?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1316.26,1319.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Tapping into our staff Mailbag. Lots of letters about last week's show, one from Robert Daley of Cambridge, who writes about the debate a couple of weeks ago, saying some panelists insist Mandela be freed even though he's a convicted murderer. Meanwhile, they want Mr. Meese jailed, who has not been convicted or tried or indicted or arrested on the same show. This letter from Joan Burke of Baltimore, who writes The South African government has indicted, has indicated to Mandela that he could leave prison if he'd only renounce violence. Apparently, as a matter of integrity, he's not willing and prefers prison in order to bring about a change in the government. On our panelists suggestion of the next faces for postage stamps, one stamp collector, Joseph Watkins of Boston says Sorry to inform the panelists that living people cannot be put on U.S. postage stamps. One must be dead to appear in such a position. That's right. Elvis cannot. Well, that's right. Well, that's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1418.23,1475.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That's a whole other event.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697#t=1476.37,1477.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118986/file/223697/transcript/62940/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And about that hot debate on the prison problems last week, a maryland state prison inmate writes, I think it's a shame the panelists laid the blame on the present situation, on everything and everyone except where it belongs, the commissioner of corrections, Arnold Hopkins. This is probably not the end of the penal facilities problems this summer. We had a lot of other letters. We'd like to hear from you. Here's the address. Write to us. Square off WJC TD Television of Baltimore, Maryland. Two one, two, 112. Reminder that this show is repeated Sunday mornings at 730. I'll see you again next Saturday night at 730. 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