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And it's square off. This is the 200th anniversary of the Constitution of the United States. It is Independence Day night. And tonight, we ask you about the most positive and the most negative thing about this country and about our Constitution, Dr. Edgar Berman. Well, I think the most negative thing is that like the Ten Commandments, if ever there were ever stuck to be fine. But right now, it's just another piece of parchment under glass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=102.75,129.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeline Murphy Well, I think because you can change it, change the Constitution or interpret it differently is a good thing in this country. The other thing is that I don't believe in original intent by the Founding Fathers because of the fact that we weren't even included.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=130.38,146.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e John Lofton The most positive thing is that America was blessed by God at its founding, and it was founded by people whose motto was in God We Trust. The most negative thing is that we become a people whose motto is now summed up on the t shirts. Life's a bitch and then you die.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=146.76,161.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=161.94,162.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e When the writers of the Constitution met Richard, they called Philadelphia the Athens of America less than 200 years later. The mayor of Philadelphia orders a neighborhood bombed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=163.11,172.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The 4th of July begins next. The fireworks on where are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=173.67,177.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=189.8,190.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Not all wearing red, white and blue. I am. And Madeleine is sort of in our hearts. In your heart. Well, we're so patriotic. It is the 4th of July. We hope you and your family are having a safe and a nice holiday weekend. But let's sample the fireworks here about this constitution that was signed 200 years ago. What does it say? And is it really working? There was a question here before the show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=190.25,210.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think it says a lot about the the basic rights of people. But I think that during the the coming of Reagan and his idea about the Constitution and Edwin Meese, about his idea about the Constitution, that we should go back to original intent when we were only talking about the landed gentry at that time. And we're talking about a special exclusive group of people and weren't talking about blacks or Indians or women or anything as a special class of people who needed rights. I think that's that's a serious thing. And I think with the Iran-Contra affair, we are seeing patriots who are using patriotism as the last their last refuge as scoundrels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=211.19,252.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How would you how if you were a slave owner, what would you put in the Constitution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=253.65,256.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If I were a slave owner?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=257.55,258.769"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, most of those guys were slave owners.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=259.29,260.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but I'm just saying, I don't think we ought to go back to that. And this is what Lisa is talking about, going back to original intent, which was knock out many of the amendments that dealt well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=261.17,270.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, when you attack this original intent idea, you talk about the founders as if they were just a bunch of chimpanzees pounding away on typewriters, trying to produce something they had.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=270.66,280.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In mind writers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=280.58,281.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, well, they certainly had original intent. Now, now, one of the things that's sad that we hear about our founders is that they were deists, that they were secular people. I have an article here out of Free Inquiry magazine published by the Council for Secular Humanism that says 200 years of secular thinking, the US Constitution, our founders were not secular people, they were not deist, they were Bible believing Christians in a book called a Worthy Company, written by Amy Bradford of the University of Dallas. He points out that with perhaps five exceptions, all the other 50 founders who signed the Constitution were members of the established Christian Communions. And if you look at the state charters of the colonies at the time the Constitution was signed, nine of the 13 had established Christian religions and mentioned God and the Bible in Christ in their constitutions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=282.0,330.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yet in the oath of Office of the President and Phyllis Schlafly has said this You.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=330.98,335.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Mean when he puts his hand on the Bible that just one word puts it in the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=335.9,338.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Bible necessary to put his hand on the Bible or to swear to God? George Washington They chose to do that. 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Richard Number one, we only made it to democracy or Republic by just a slender set of threads. One of the stories that's not well told is that people wanted Ben Franklin to serve as the mediator between England and the United States and to smooth things over the fact that Franklin went to England by himself and left his wife in Pennsylvania may have had something to do with it, but we could just as easily have reconciled with England as well as gone off on our own.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=357.95,388.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm glad you mentioned Benjamin Franklin, because Benjamin Franklin is frequently cited by those who say that our country was founded by deists or people who were not really Christians. Benjamin Franklin was the one who at the Constitutional Convention called for each session of the convention to be opened with prayer. And he also, in calling for this, cited the 127th song which said that accept the Lord build the house. They labor in vain, who build it. So there's a guy that people like you have said were ideas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=388.94,414.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=415.2,415.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But how can how can a group of people who claim to be Christian support slavery for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=415.79,424.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Slavery and the slaughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=425.03,426.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Of Indians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=426.68,426.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, but look, look, look.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=427.82,429.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e First of all, the white man when he came here didn't do anything to the Indian that the Indians didn't do to each other before the white man came. Yeah, but that, I think, is right on this. Of course it doesn't. I'm just trying to bring a little perspective to the discussion. Secondly, on this question of slavery, some of the founding fathers released their slaves. Some supported slavery, some didn't. The reason the Constitution said that blacks were 3/5 of a person for the purpose of voting representation in the Congress was because the people in the South wanted blacks to be counted as a whole person, which would have meant the South, the slave owners would have had more representation. So the proposal that they be counted as only 3/5 was was a proposal to undercut those who held slaves and reduced their representation in the Congress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=430.19,471.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I know what you remind me of when you talked about Franklin and his great Christian ethics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=471.75,475.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And so I just quoted what he said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=476.33,477.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I know, but it reminds me of a Jim and Tammy back. 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It reminds me of the bankers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=489.17,493.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Bankers, makers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=494.03,494.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Bankers, as this great Christian gentleman was also one of the rats. Ben Franklin was one of the great womanizers of of the colonial era era.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=494.81,503.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he wasn't. I mean, nobody. There's two kinds of centers. 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To be a Christian is not to behave flawlessly and without sin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=508.84,512.809"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But I'm all as long as.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=513.26,515.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Man is a man who admitted that he had an illegitimate son. The mother of that son was never identified.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=515.72,521.059"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Ben Franklin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=521.96,522.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Ben Franklin. Now, wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=522.679,524.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But also Jefferson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=524.36,524.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The pen of Pennsylvania disliked Ben Franklin so much that they were they sad about him. He preferred the boudoir to the barricades. That's true. Is this the Christian gentleman you're talking about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=525.62,537.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e If your point is that if you can show me where someone sinned, that means they're not a Christian, then you don't know anything about what constitutes being a Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=538.31,545.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, John, you're you're trying to stop order here. 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All right, man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=556.37,561.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think they were at the convention. All right, hold on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=563.21,565.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e John. You have a facility for changing in the middle of the stream because of the fact that you say that because a person is sinned does not necessarily mean they're not Christian. You have lambasted so many people on this program whose beliefs you do not, for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=566.12,579.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=579.86,579.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Homosexuals, people who have abortions. A number of other things who may be Christian. Who may. Who may. Oh, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=580.55,588.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=589.23,589.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yes. I mean, you have gone from no, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=589.94,592.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Mean, I've lambasted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=592.4,592.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Spectrum to the other and put them down. And in fact, if you were God, I'm sure you would reap revenge. What would such a terrible way? What either of that you would not even show your own Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=593.14,606.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Would either of you agree that it's possible to recognize the utility and ascribe to a Christian belief, but not actually be a born again Christian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=607.1,614.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Like, how do you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=615.29,615.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=616.43,616.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Franklin Franklin was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=616.7,617.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e A great actor. Your whole song is asking if you believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=618.11,619.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Tonight, One at a time. Let the other person finish the sentence. Alan, go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=620.66,623.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think the point that Ben Franklin is an interesting one. Franklin was such a poor public speaker that he allowed other people to give his speeches. Well, the Constitution was being written. Franklin never pretended to be the sort of up front kind of guy. He was much more comfortable in bed with somebody's wife than he was at the platform giving a speech.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=623.81,642.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. But if you're saying well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=643.16,646.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e If you're saying that it's a question of these great moral men writing a great document. Well, I'm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=647.79,654.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Know what I was in picking out Franklin. I was saying that Franklin is one of the ones that atheists like to cite or unbelievers as a deist, as typical of our founding fathers. Matter of fact, even if I stipulate everything you said, I would say that we were such a Christian country at our founding that even reprobates, like Ben Franklin, recognized the importance of prayer and adhering to the Scripture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=654.47,674.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that's because he cited scriptures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=674.79,676.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But the thing is that you don't what you don't understand is that all of these born again Christians may be public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=677.24,684.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not saying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=685.07,685.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That they are as sinful as the rest, though. When we come back, we're going to pick up a discussion about the Constitution on this 4th of July. Madeline is upset. We're going to find out why and talk about some of the specific amendments that may or may not be working. We'll be right back. I really like it. What about Jeffers? These guys? You know, we're talking about the Constitution. They're talking about who had affairs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=686.12,814.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, whether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=815.9,816.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's they finish what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=816.71,817.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e FRANKLIN Because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=818.81,819.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e ALLEN And here's that year. You also make the point about Franklin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=819.59,822.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I just want to say it's possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=823.16,824.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That at the time Franklin said what he said about prayer and quoting the psalm, he was an old man, that he could have repented of those things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=824.54,831.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=831.39,831.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=832.07,832.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Dangerous thing of separation of church and state and freedom of religion is that only the Christians seem to think that they hold the key to what is right and wrong for America. When we've had a wave of immigration from other countries with other religions that also have a right under the Constitution to practice their religion and not be controlled by any other religious sect. And I think it is is a dangerous thing for us to move into a kind of Christian mindset. No, that outlaws.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=833.09,863.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't tell you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=863.87,864.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What's wrong. I'll tell you what's been wrong. What has been dangerous is to move away from God in this country. We have moved away from the Christian mindset. That is what is in endangered.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=867.02,875.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but you say Christians are not the only people who believe in a god.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=876.41,879.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but the ones that founded this country were the first wave of immigrants were called.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=880.55,884.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To look at the hell that they wrote.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=884.65,886.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e To Hell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=886.4,886.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The best in the world that they.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=886.88,890.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Reached Pacific.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=890.31,890.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e What happened in the process? Wait a minute. She's made a very serious charge. They only have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=891.47,894.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Held today for Thanksgiving. But how about that? Hold on, John. Serious?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=895.04,898.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm serious. You want to answer to a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=899.12,900.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=900.78,900.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Want it. You just want to smear. All right, let's hit my home run. That's right. I will. Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=901.19,908.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Hit run. You know, the biggest complaint we get on this show on a regular basis is that everybody talks too much at the same time. Let the other person finish a sentence. Let's talk about some of the specific parts of the Constitution. Some of the amendments, speedy and public trial, whatever it happens to be something that's bothering you or that you don't think that bothers me that Madeline said she said that she didn't believe in amendments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=908.97,929.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, here. 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You don't believe in to everybody changing it with the. No, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=933.14,936.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. You listen to what we're doing. You misunderstood me, so don't go off on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=936.44,941.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, Go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=941.54,942.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe in amendments, and I believe that the Bill of Rights, the the the First Amendment, first hand amendments, Article eight particularly, has come under a bludgeoning by the Supreme Court recently.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=942.68,955.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=955.79,956.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And that is this thing of protective custody that they're talking about, people that you think are going to commit crimes, that you can hold them until they are either tried or first. They and I don't believe that's true. The Justice Department itself in 1983 found that 1.9% of the people who had been committed violent crimes ever. Only 1.9% of them who were accused of committing violent crimes ever did it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=956.45,989.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I can give you the statistics that will just nullify all of that. But for instance, would you have agreed with the 18th Amendment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=989.21,998.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The 18th Amendment, dealing with prohibition? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=999.77,1002.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I know you're a boozer of sorts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1003.65,1005.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, no. I stopped drinking in 1967 and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1005.44,1008.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1008.89,1008.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Didn't have to make an allegation like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1009.25,1011.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e On why, If.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1011.77,1014.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You can smear the Puritans, why can't he say she's a liar?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1014.38,1016.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't say he didn't say, he said. All right, Alan, more serious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1017.29,1021.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's raise another point. Let's live in this living room. Just so you know, character suicide would be more apt. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1022.3,1028.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Stick to the substance if possible. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1028.96,1030.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's kind of hard when people just generalize and don't support what they say with facts, but I'll try again. Let's talk about the separation of church and state business that you mentioned a minute ago, something that's not in the Constitution, by the way. Those words are not in the Constitution. Our founders did believe that no church should dominate the government, no particular church, no particular sect. But they did not believe that God should be separated from government. Now, let me tell you about this race. 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We do lot. Well, it's always later in your thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1059.41,1062.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The Supreme Court ruling that struck down the creationism act in Louisiana.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1063.31,1066.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And whose goodness, Thank goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1067.48,1069.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't. Thank God you might, thank goodness, didn't have to. William Brant, Lord William Brennan in his decision, denounced this law because it had no secular purpose, because he said it advanced one religious view and that it advanced the one religious view that a supernatural being created humankind. Well, as I read this language, I thought if I heard this idea that man was created by a religious supernatural, and then it came to me, it's the Declaration of Independence, which speaks of the law of Nature and of Nature's God, that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, and that the precise purpose of. Government is to protect these rights. Also, this document calls on the supreme judge of the world and expresses a firm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1069.97,1117.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e To do more to talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1119.1,1121.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e About.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1122.4,1122.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It. I'm going to. This is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1123.64,1124.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e This is Lofton, Buster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1125.62,1126.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This is the end of a declaration of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1126.94,1128.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, Come on, make it on the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1128.47,1129.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Side of the signers of the declaration also expressed a firm reliance on protection of divine providence and ended by pledging to each other their lives, fortune and their sacred honor. So that shows how far we've come in this case. The Declaration of Independence today would be struck down by the Supreme Court because it's too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1129.52,1146.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Religious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1146.62,1146.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And the Constitution would not be approved by anybody in the United States who hasn't read it. And most people haven't read it because they don't agree with some of its precepts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1147.16,1156.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we got millions who can't read in this country either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1157.83,1159.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1160.18,1160.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If you love your public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1161.02,1161.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Especially the people who want to perfect a more perfect union did so with the Constitution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1161.87,1167.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, that's interesting, Edgar, because I think what we're talking about, this foray into the religious wilderness that we had to wait until the 20th century to give women rights in this country and to allow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1169.21,1179.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1180.43,1180.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The privilege of voting. We had to wait until the 1950s to provide civil rights legislation to admits that blacks were people. Now, my point on all of this is an interesting one. I wasn't going to get off on religion because I think there are more important things to talk about in the framing of the Constitution and the rights of the people than God. But well, religion is fine, John, But if you look at religion, if you take a look at the European example, John, and find out why people came over here. You'll find out what God does when you really tie it to a state. How about the bloody Assizes or the Spanish Inquisition? You know, you remember those things. Those were God inspired. How about the Holy Crusades or the War of the Roses? You know, they had one war in Europe over whether or not you make the the sign of the cross with two fingers or three fingers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1181.12,1229.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What's your point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1229.66,1229.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they were divinely inspired, weren't they, John?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1230.26,1232.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think they were. Oh, well, then certainly people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1232.78,1234.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Are divinely inspired. You know, how do we decide which ones are divinely inspired?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1235.48,1238.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And we know you want to change your name to Allen Atheist. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1239.38,1241.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There we go. You can't vote on this question with John. Simply tell me a little bit about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1242.65,1247.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think it's very arrogant of John and those like him and of his ilk to be able to interpret to us what God is going to do and what he's going to do. But no, I think that you're being arrogant paragon in the sense that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1249.32,1263.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1263.95,1263.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1264.46,1264.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm not an arrogant. Oh, no, I know that area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1265.12,1267.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, no idea that you have come to the position and many like you that you can dictate what God has said and what God will do. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1267.86,1277.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Just like our founders.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1278.65,1279.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Our founders reversed of the coin. No, you cannot. In other words, say, for instance, about prayer in school. Yeah. Who outlaws got out of school? Oh, I lost that out of my life. Out of your life? Out of anybody's. Like, you know, these are rhetorical questions. If you believe that God is supreme and all knowing and all saying, Hey, man, then you and no one else can tell where we left God out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1279.59,1306.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Listen, what is this? A dialog between.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1308.99,1310.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Madmen and this no longer dialog is a rhetorical point. What do you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1311.35,1314.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What do I have to say? No one is to speak now until after I just finished. And I think what I have to say is that I believe so thoroughly in the Constitution, for instance, the First Amendment. It lets journalists hide behind it whenever they like you, who can hide behind it any time you want by saying what you want, it can happen. The pornographers do what they want, the right, the right of assembly. It can have crowds of young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1315.61,1343.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Women in it. Are you serious crackers? Edgar, are you saying that Lafayette Square or Lafayette Square? Just. Are you digging into every are you. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's a show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1344.68,1355.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The other thing is they just congeal on Pennsylvania Avenue from one gutter to the next.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1355.75,1362.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You were like, Sure. He has no form.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1363.16,1365.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1366.19,1366.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Really like this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1366.66,1367.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Edgar. Really a mind really is a terrible thing to waste, Edgar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1368.02,1370.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But why have you went? No, no, no. You've wasted your time. Don't even.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1371.38,1374.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1375.46,1375.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you serious? When you say that. That you think that pornography was what our founders had in mind when they gave us the First Amendment?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1375.85,1381.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's an original intent. I don't believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1382.03,1384.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That. Well, let me point out something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1384.54,1385.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We only have a minute left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1385.9,1386.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Why don't you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1387.44,1387.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Ask me to answer the question? You mentioned pornography.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1387.88,1389.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You like the First Amendment because it gave us pornography.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1390.52,1392.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you serious? I mean, I think you're pornographic. You know what? 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We really missed the Constitution, right? You realize that a lot. Out of the people who went to the Constitutional Convention didn't sign it. Do you know that the first Constitutional convention was held in Maryland, Not in Philadelphia? But this is typical of the mindset that tries to find something in the Constitution that's not even there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1402.01,1423.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I must tell you this. Let me show you. Let me show all of you this. This box was sent to us by our very good friend, John Loeb, who is president of the Artifact Company. And you can see printed on the box is the Declaration of Independence, July 4th, 1776. There it is. You see? There it is. And look what is inside. Compliments of John Loeb at the Artifact Company. For all of us of square off. This is the world's biggest gavel. Isn't that terrific? Look at this. They're scary. And it could reach you, John, and reach you, Alan. We'll be back in just a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1423.71,1458.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62859/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e What went on in my job. 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And it's square off. This is the 200th anniversary of the Constitution of the United States. It is Independence Day night. And tonight, we ask you about the most positive and the most negative thing about this country and about our Constitution, Dr. Edgar Berman. Well, I think the most negative thing is that like the Ten Commandments, if ever there were ever stuck to be fine. But right now, it's just another piece of parchment under glass.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=102.75,129.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeline Murphy Well, I think because you can change it, change the Constitution or interpret it differently is a good thing in this country. The other thing is that I don't believe in original intent by the Founding Fathers because of the fact that we weren't even included.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=130.38,146.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e John Lofton The most positive thing is that America was blessed by God at its founding, and it was founded by people whose motto was in God We Trust. The most negative thing is that we become a people whose motto is now summed up on the t shirts. Life's a bitch and then you die.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=146.76,161.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=161.94,162.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e When the writers of the Constitution met Richard, they called Philadelphia the Athens of America less than 200 years later. The mayor of Philadelphia orders a neighborhood bombed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=163.11,172.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The 4th of July begins next. The fireworks on where are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=173.67,177.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=189.8,190.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Not all wearing red, white and blue. I am. And Madeleine is sort of in our hearts. In your heart. Well, we're so patriotic. It is the 4th of July. We hope you and your family are having a safe and a nice holiday weekend. But let's sample the fireworks here about this constitution that was signed 200 years ago. What does it say? And is it really working? There was a question here before the show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=190.25,210.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think it says a lot about the the basic rights of people. But I think that during the the coming of Reagan and his idea about the Constitution and Edwin Meese, about his idea about the Constitution, that we should go back to original intent when we were only talking about the landed gentry at that time. And we're talking about a special exclusive group of people and weren't talking about blacks or Indians or women or anything as a special class of people who needed rights. I think that's that's a serious thing. And I think with the Iran-Contra affair, we are seeing patriots who are using patriotism as the last their last refuge as scoundrels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=211.19,252.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How would you how if you were a slave owner, what would you put in the Constitution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=253.65,256.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e If I were a slave owner?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=257.55,258.769"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, most of those guys were slave owners.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=259.29,260.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but I'm just saying, I don't think we ought to go back to that. 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George Washington They chose to do that. 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Richard Number one, we only made it to democracy or Republic by just a slender set of threads. One of the stories that's not well told is that people wanted Ben Franklin to serve as the mediator between England and the United States and to smooth things over the fact that Franklin went to England by himself and left his wife in Pennsylvania may have had something to do with it, but we could just as easily have reconciled with England as well as gone off on our own.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=357.95,388.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm glad you mentioned Benjamin Franklin, because Benjamin Franklin is frequently cited by those who say that our country was founded by deists or people who were not really Christians. Benjamin Franklin was the one who at the Constitutional Convention called for each session of the convention to be opened with prayer. And he also, in calling for this, cited the 127th song which said that accept the Lord build the house. They labor in vain, who build it. So there's a guy that people like you have said were ideas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=388.94,414.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=415.2,415.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But how can how can a group of people who claim to be Christian support slavery for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=415.79,424.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Slavery and the slaughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=425.03,426.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Of Indians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=426.68,426.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, but look, look, look.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=427.82,429.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e First of all, the white man when he came here didn't do anything to the Indian that the Indians didn't do to each other before the white man came. Yeah, but that, I think, is right on this. Of course it doesn't. I'm just trying to bring a little perspective to the discussion. Secondly, on this question of slavery, some of the founding fathers released their slaves. Some supported slavery, some didn't. The reason the Constitution said that blacks were 3/5 of a person for the purpose of voting representation in the Congress was because the people in the South wanted blacks to be counted as a whole person, which would have meant the South, the slave owners would have had more representation. 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Baker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=477.89,482.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Baker. Baker.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=483.44,483.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Get it right. Baker Yeah. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=484.16,485.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know what I love?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=486.22,487.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know why. It reminds me of the bankers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=489.17,493.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Bankers, makers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=494.03,494.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Bankers, as this great Christian gentleman was also one of the rats. Ben Franklin was one of the great womanizers of of the colonial era era.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=494.81,503.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he wasn't. I mean, nobody. There's two kinds of centers. 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To be a Christian is not to behave flawlessly and without sin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=508.84,512.809"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But I'm all as long as.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=513.26,515.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Man is a man who admitted that he had an illegitimate son. The mother of that son was never identified.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=515.72,521.059"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Ben Franklin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=521.96,522.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Ben Franklin. Now, wait a minute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=522.679,524.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But also Jefferson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=524.36,524.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The pen of Pennsylvania disliked Ben Franklin so much that they were they sad about him. He preferred the boudoir to the barricades. That's true. Is this the Christian gentleman you're talking about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=525.62,537.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e If your point is that if you can show me where someone sinned, that means they're not a Christian, then you don't know anything about what constitutes being a Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=538.31,545.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, John, you're you're trying to stop order here. No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=546.02,550.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, you still haven't refuted what Franklin said, what he said he believed at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=551.0,556.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But what the bakers say and what they did were two different things. All right, man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=556.37,561.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think they were at the convention. All right, hold on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=563.21,565.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e John. You have a facility for changing in the middle of the stream because of the fact that you say that because a person is sinned does not necessarily mean they're not Christian. You have lambasted so many people on this program whose beliefs you do not, for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=566.12,579.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=579.86,579.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Homosexuals, people who have abortions. A number of other things who may be Christian. Who may. Who may. Oh, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=580.55,588.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=589.23,589.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yes. I mean, you have gone from no, I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=589.94,592.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Mean, I've lambasted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=592.4,592.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Spectrum to the other and put them down. And in fact, if you were God, I'm sure you would reap revenge. What would such a terrible way? What either of that you would not even show your own Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=593.14,606.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Would either of you agree that it's possible to recognize the utility and ascribe to a Christian belief, but not actually be a born again Christian?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=607.1,614.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Like, how do you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=615.29,615.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=616.43,616.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Franklin Franklin was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=616.7,617.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e A great actor. Your whole song is asking if you believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=618.11,619.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Tonight, One at a time. Let the other person finish the sentence. Alan, go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=620.66,623.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think the point that Ben Franklin is an interesting one. Franklin was such a poor public speaker that he allowed other people to give his speeches. Well, the Constitution was being written. Franklin never pretended to be the sort of up front kind of guy. 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But if you're saying well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=643.16,646.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e If you're saying that it's a question of these great moral men writing a great document. Well, I'm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=647.79,654.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Know what I was in picking out Franklin. I was saying that Franklin is one of the ones that atheists like to cite or unbelievers as a deist, as typical of our founding fathers. Matter of fact, even if I stipulate everything you said, I would say that we were such a Christian country at our founding that even reprobates, like Ben Franklin, recognized the importance of prayer and adhering to the Scripture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=654.47,674.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, that's because he cited scriptures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=674.79,676.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But the thing is that you don't what you don't understand is that all of these born again Christians may be public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=677.24,684.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not saying.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=685.07,685.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That they are as sinful as the rest, though. When we come back, we're going to pick up a discussion about the Constitution on this 4th of July. Madeline is upset. We're going to find out why and talk about some of the specific amendments that may or may not be working. We'll be right back. I really like it. What about Jeffers? These guys? You know, we're talking about the Constitution. They're talking about who had affairs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=686.12,814.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, whether.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=815.9,816.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's they finish what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=816.71,817.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e FRANKLIN Because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=818.81,819.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e ALLEN And here's that year. You also make the point about Franklin.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=819.59,822.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I just want to say it's possible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=823.16,824.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That at the time Franklin said what he said about prayer and quoting the psalm, he was an old man, that he could have repented of those things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=824.54,831.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=831.39,831.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But I don't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=832.07,832.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Dangerous thing of separation of church and state and freedom of religion is that only the Christians seem to think that they hold the key to what is right and wrong for America. When we've had a wave of immigration from other countries with other religions that also have a right under the Constitution to practice their religion and not be controlled by any other religious sect. And I think it is is a dangerous thing for us to move into a kind of Christian mindset. No, that outlaws.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=833.09,863.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't tell you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=863.87,864.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What's wrong. I'll tell you what's been wrong. What has been dangerous is to move away from God in this country. We have moved away from the Christian mindset. 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Wait a minute. She's made a very serious charge. They only have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=891.47,894.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Held today for Thanksgiving. But how about that? Hold on, John. Serious?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=895.04,898.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm serious. You want to answer to a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=899.12,900.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=900.78,900.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Want it. You just want to smear. All right, let's hit my home run. That's right. I will. Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=901.19,908.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Hit run. You know, the biggest complaint we get on this show on a regular basis is that everybody talks too much at the same time. Let the other person finish a sentence. Let's talk about some of the specific parts of the Constitution. Some of the amendments, speedy and public trial, whatever it happens to be something that's bothering you or that you don't think that bothers me that Madeline said she said that she didn't believe in amendments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=908.97,929.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, here. 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You don't believe in to everybody changing it with the. No, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=933.14,936.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no. You listen to what we're doing. You misunderstood me, so don't go off on that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=936.44,941.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, Go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=941.54,942.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe in amendments, and I believe that the Bill of Rights, the the the First Amendment, first hand amendments, Article eight particularly, has come under a bludgeoning by the Supreme Court recently.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=942.68,955.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=955.79,956.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And that is this thing of protective custody that they're talking about, people that you think are going to commit crimes, that you can hold them until they are either tried or first. They and I don't believe that's true. The Justice Department itself in 1983 found that 1.9% of the people who had been committed violent crimes ever. Only 1.9% of them who were accused of committing violent crimes ever did it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=956.45,989.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I can give you the statistics that will just nullify all of that. But for instance, would you have agreed with the 18th Amendment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=989.21,998.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The 18th Amendment, dealing with prohibition? 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All right, Alan, more serious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1017.29,1021.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's raise another point. Let's live in this living room. Just so you know, character suicide would be more apt. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1022.3,1028.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Stick to the substance if possible. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1028.96,1030.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's kind of hard when people just generalize and don't support what they say with facts, but I'll try again. Let's talk about the separation of church and state business that you mentioned a minute ago, something that's not in the Constitution, by the way. Those words are not in the Constitution. Our founders did believe that no church should dominate the government, no particular church, no particular sect. But they did not believe that God should be separated from government. Now, let me tell you about this race. 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We do lot. Well, it's always later in your thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1059.41,1062.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The Supreme Court ruling that struck down the creationism act in Louisiana.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1063.31,1066.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. And whose goodness, Thank goodness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1067.48,1069.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't. Thank God you might, thank goodness, didn't have to. William Brant, Lord William Brennan in his decision, denounced this law because it had no secular purpose, because he said it advanced one religious view and that it advanced the one religious view that a supernatural being created humankind. Well, as I read this language, I thought if I heard this idea that man was created by a religious supernatural, and then it came to me, it's the Declaration of Independence, which speaks of the law of Nature and of Nature's God, that all men are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, and that the precise purpose of. Government is to protect these rights. Also, this document calls on the supreme judge of the world and expresses a firm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1069.97,1117.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e To do more to talk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1119.1,1121.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e About.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1122.4,1122.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e It. I'm going to. This is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1123.64,1124.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e This is Lofton, Buster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1125.62,1126.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This is the end of a declaration of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1126.94,1128.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, Come on, make it on the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1128.47,1129.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Side of the signers of the declaration also expressed a firm reliance on protection of divine providence and ended by pledging to each other their lives, fortune and their sacred honor. So that shows how far we've come in this case. The Declaration of Independence today would be struck down by the Supreme Court because it's too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1129.52,1146.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Religious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1146.62,1146.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And the Constitution would not be approved by anybody in the United States who hasn't read it. And most people haven't read it because they don't agree with some of its precepts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1147.16,1156.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we got millions who can't read in this country either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1157.83,1159.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1160.18,1160.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If you love your public.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1161.02,1161.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Especially the people who want to perfect a more perfect union did so with the Constitution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1161.87,1167.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, that's interesting, Edgar, because I think what we're talking about, this foray into the religious wilderness that we had to wait until the 20th century to give women rights in this country and to allow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1169.21,1179.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1180.43,1180.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The privilege of voting. We had to wait until the 1950s to provide civil rights legislation to admits that blacks were people. Now, my point on all of this is an interesting one. I wasn't going to get off on religion because I think there are more important things to talk about in the framing of the Constitution and the rights of the people than God. But well, religion is fine, John, But if you look at religion, if you take a look at the European example, John, and find out why people came over here. You'll find out what God does when you really tie it to a state. How about the bloody Assizes or the Spanish Inquisition? You know, you remember those things. Those were God inspired. How about the Holy Crusades or the War of the Roses? You know, they had one war in Europe over whether or not you make the the sign of the cross with two fingers or three fingers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1181.12,1229.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What's your point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1229.66,1229.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they were divinely inspired, weren't they, John?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1230.26,1232.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think they were. Oh, well, then certainly people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1232.78,1234.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Are divinely inspired. You know, how do we decide which ones are divinely inspired?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1235.48,1238.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And we know you want to change your name to Allen Atheist. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1239.38,1241.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e There we go. You can't vote on this question with John. Simply tell me a little bit about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1242.65,1247.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think it's very arrogant of John and those like him and of his ilk to be able to interpret to us what God is going to do and what he's going to do. But no, I think that you're being arrogant paragon in the sense that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1249.32,1263.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1263.95,1263.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1264.46,1264.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, no, no, no, no. I'm not an arrogant. Oh, no, I know that area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1265.12,1267.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, no idea that you have come to the position and many like you that you can dictate what God has said and what God will do. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1267.86,1277.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Just like our founders.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1278.65,1279.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Our founders reversed of the coin. No, you cannot. In other words, say, for instance, about prayer in school. Yeah. Who outlaws got out of school? Oh, I lost that out of my life. Out of your life? Out of anybody's. Like, you know, these are rhetorical questions. If you believe that God is supreme and all knowing and all saying, Hey, man, then you and no one else can tell where we left God out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1279.59,1306.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Listen, what is this? 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And I think what I have to say is that I believe so thoroughly in the Constitution, for instance, the First Amendment. It lets journalists hide behind it whenever they like you, who can hide behind it any time you want by saying what you want, it can happen. The pornographers do what they want, the right, the right of assembly. It can have crowds of young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1315.61,1343.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Women in it. Are you serious crackers? Edgar, are you saying that Lafayette Square or Lafayette Square? Just. Are you digging into every are you. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's a show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1344.68,1355.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The other thing is they just congeal on Pennsylvania Avenue from one gutter to the next.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1355.75,1362.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You were like, Sure. He has no form.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1363.16,1365.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1366.19,1366.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Really like this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1366.66,1367.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Edgar. Really a mind really is a terrible thing to waste, Edgar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1368.02,1370.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But why have you went? No, no, no. You've wasted your time. Don't even.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1371.38,1374.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1375.46,1375.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you serious? When you say that. That you think that pornography was what our founders had in mind when they gave us the First Amendment?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1375.85,1381.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's an original intent. I don't believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1382.03,1384.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That. Well, let me point out something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1384.54,1385.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We only have a minute left.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1385.9,1386.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Why don't you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1387.44,1387.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Ask me to answer the question? You mentioned pornography.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1387.88,1389.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You like the First Amendment because it gave us pornography.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1390.52,1392.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Are you serious? I mean, I think you're pornographic. You know what? We've staggered around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1392.92,1396.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You. I think that's good at your job. Go down, make your point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1398.3,1401.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, we've staggered around trying to figure out how to spell pray on this half hour program. We really missed the Constitution, right? You realize that a lot. Out of the people who went to the Constitutional Convention didn't sign it. Do you know that the first Constitutional convention was held in Maryland, Not in Philadelphia? But this is typical of the mindset that tries to find something in the Constitution that's not even there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1402.01,1423.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I must tell you this. Let me show you. Let me show all of you this. This box was sent to us by our very good friend, John Loeb, who is president of the Artifact Company. And you can see printed on the box is the Declaration of Independence, July 4th, 1776. There it is. You see? There it is. And look what is inside. Compliments of John Loeb at the Artifact Company. For all of us of square off. This is the world's biggest gavel. Isn't that terrific? Look at this. They're scary. And it could reach you, John, and reach you, Alan. We'll be back in just a moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1423.71,1458.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e What went on in my job. So I started.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948#t=1462.2,1467.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118466/file/222948/transcript/62973/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Before we leave, an apology to John Lowell, president of the Art Craft Company. Not artifact. I didn't have my glasses on. Right. The bifocal wasn't sitting properly. Art Craft company on Reisterstown Road. This gift just square off our 10th anniversary gift. We can get to keep it if we want. Thank you, Johnny. Write to us, Wally. About John or Edgar or Allan or Madeline. There's the address of WG. TV. Television of Baltimore. Two, One, two, one, one. Join us again next Saturday night. 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