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We're live on City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie Hong. Hello, I'm Betty Bentley. They make you laugh with your innocence, and they steal your hearts with your smile. They start movies, television, commercials and shows. They are child actors making a big impact. Maybe your child can be a star. They still are. We'll show you how to find out if your child has what it takes. Tackling the issues facing today's black men. I'm t. Monti and we'll talk about that. Hi, i'm heroin, anthony. And today on the entertainment page, i'll be featuring a dynamic young group whose sound will put you and mine of the Jacksons in the early years. Marcia Smith, a past the kid management and acting coach Janet Smith, a witness to show you what it takes to make your kid a star. Also, child commercial star Paula Kelly Hint will tell you how she made it big, making your kid a star. Next, live on City Line. Good afternoon and welcome to another edition of City Line. And if you've noticed our fine looking audience today, you might have an idea of what it is we have in store for you. We want to find out how to get your kid in commercials and what we want to do. Jackie, I think, is giving folks something to go on in terms of what sort of things you should be asking yourself or asking your child about how they might get into a commercial. So we want to give you a little quiz and find out whether or not your children have the things it takes to be a star. For instance, does your child like most foods? Many commercials require children to eat with enthusiasm. Question two Does he or she have good teeth? With few exceptions, braces are unacceptable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=64.05,189.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is your child athletic and well coordinated? Most commercials require strenuous play. Question four Is your child nice looking in an average sort of way? Does he or she have a warm, outgoing personality? Sex. Can your child communicate easily with adults? Seven. Does he or she take directions easily and enjoy participating? Do friends or even strangers remark about what an attractive, outgoing or even funny child you have? Number nine Does your child enjoy the company of adults? Is he or she spontaneous around older people? Ten. Does your child make up games or play? Act with friends? Number 11. Does he or she enjoy being the center of attention? 12. Is your child a leader? 13. Does your child take part in school plays and pageants? 14. Is your child funny? The ability to make people laugh is one of the rarest and most sought after gifts in the entertainment industry. Number 15 is your child patient. Does he or she mind doing the same thing over and over again? Does your child have stamina? And number 16, does your child speak well? If you answered yes to most questions, your child may have that certain magic, something of which child stars are made. We want to bring on our two guests who are with us this afternoon. Welcome. We have here Miss Marcia. This march has cast a kid at a casting agency. And as Janet Smith, who's an acting coach who works quite a bit with child stars and kids who want to get into the commercials. Welcome, both of you. And let's get your reaction to the quiz that we came up with. Are those the sorts of things that parents really should go over if their children have in mind when they make a decision about whether or not their kid can make it in television? Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=191.36,311.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But more important than that, I think the parents have to ask themselves a lot of questions. Such as? Such as am I doing this because I think my child is going to be my meal ticket? Do I realize that I am exposing my child to continual rejection? Is this the life that I really want for my child? What kinds of things will a parent learn by answering the questions that you've just posed to the parents? I think that a parent has to analyze what the parent's motives are. Some parents really do feel that this is instant success. It's the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. And that's just not true. Some parents are frustrated performers themselves and they feel, well, this is their chance. They never made it, but their child is going to make it. Most important thing for a parent to ask is, is this what my child wants to do? Is this going to make my child happy? Is this going to prepare my child to face his or her future life? Janet, let me ask you the last question in our little quiz that we put together dealt with the child being able to speak well. How important is it? It's very, very important. I think it's one of the most important things. If you want your child to be involved with doing commercial work or any kind of acting, because you have to be able to communicate. People have to be able to understand exactly what you're saying and exactly the product that you're representing. If you can't communicate that, if you have certain regional dialects, if you have any kind of slang in your expressions, people won't be able to understand exactly what you're advertising. So we look for a young person who has good communicative skills, and we find that from children who are highly academic, who really work hard in school, who make a strong emphasis in their training, who practice speaking properly, who work with scripts, who work with being in front of an audience and learning the proper way to speak beyond the speaking ability.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=313.09,432.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What else is it that you look for in a child? A sense of humor? I definitely look for a sense of humor and intellect. Now, that doesn't mean I look for a straight-A student, because a lot of very intelligent students are not straight-A students. But I look for a child who's bright, who has a wonderful sense of humor and who's very outgoing, a child who has a good sense of self, a child who is not not afraid to get up and say, here I am, this is who I am, and I count for something. That's what I look for. How can we look for children that are really bubbly and show a lot of energy and a lot of personality who can be very diversified, who can show feelings and emotions, who aren't just happy all the time, who can show us that they're sad and they can pout, that they can be a different character if that's what we're looking for. Okay. We're going to take a break right now. And when we come back, Janet and Jackie, you're going to be in the audience. We're going to talk to some of these budding movie stars that are in the audience today. So stay with us. Come back live here on Cityline. What's my latest in wireless? I know he said a while ago. So Janet is going to use that and you use what you have. So I'll just talk from mine. Right. Talk to your Janet for her boss and not know how far. But aren't you? Are you going? You want to. You want to be now? I feel like I'm standing. Yeah. Ooh, I'm taller, so I will be just. We've been waiting for. We have an audience just full of kids and their parents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=432.64,579.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And of course, Janet Smith is going to tell us, maybe take us through a routine and tell us what they look for and the kinds of questions they ask children. It's a little bit different, though, isn't it, Janet? This isn't what you would normally do in your studio with you. No, what we're looking for is we're going to do an example of what you would do if you were coming to have an interview with me to see if I would accept you with my company. So what I'm going to do is ask for some volunteers. Do I have any volunteers? Any volunteers? Oh, okay. We have some volunteers, and I'm going to ask you some typical questions that I ask the young people that come to shore to to sort of show you that we need qualified and trained people. And the difference between what a professional kid would answer compared to children without as much training. Do you have training? Yes. Yes. Well, let me try this kid. Okay, good. You've just walked in my office. All right. I've never met you before, and I want to welcome you to my office. Would you tell me a little bit about you? Sarah. Oh, for. Well, you let Janet ask the questions, Mom. Okay. Another thing we look for is we always look for the child to speak for themselves. And that's a very, very important thing because we want to see the child speak. So mommy's it's hard to sit back a little bit and just relax and let the child do the talking. But that's what we're looking for. Is anybody else want to talk to me? Okay. Would you like to tell me a little bit about you? My name is Shane.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=579.89,667.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I live. I live Rescate Ranch, Columbia, Maryland. 2104, five and seven. Seven and a half. Okay, that was pretty good. But the professional kid is going to walk into my office and I'm going to say hi. Welcome. Would you like to tell me a little bit about yourself? And they are immediately going to introduce themselves. Tell me that I just completed doing a McDonald's commercial or another commercial that I have experience, that I've been studying and training, and that I am really excited to be here. And thank you for inviting me to the little lady here. Okay. That's a really pretty dress that you have on. It's a very pretty dress that you have on. Can you tell me a little bit about it? Well, my mother brought me it and I like it very much, and I'm proud to have it. Okay, that was good. How about you? You look really cute today. Did you get excited about coming today? Yeah. Anybody else? Like, how about this little gentleman back here? Can you tell us who you are? Okay. Okay. I have a little lady here in terms of asking some of her activities what she enjoys doing. Okay. Would you tell us some of your hobbies or some of the games that you like to play that stand out? Turn around. This way. There you look. My favorite TV show is an Emmy, ma'am. My favorite commercial is and Toys R US, kid. And what's your favorite toy? What do you hope you get for Christmas this year? Nucleus from the other. Right. Okay. Now tell me something. When a professional kid comes into your studio, what is the routine that you will take that child through? Okay, first we take them through an interview such as we're doing right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=669.5,783.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And generally we have so many young people that come in to be interviewed that we only have time to ask them three or four questions. So it's very important that during those three or four questions that you give us as much information about yourself as possible. In other words, tell us your training and experience and we are only looking for trained and qualified people. You have to have training. You have to have background. Sure, you have to be cute and bubbly and have lots of personality because we love that. But there's a lot of very cute and bubbly children that have many years of training and preparation. Okay. One quick statement from maybe this young lady. What about her? Stand for me. Tell us why you would like to be involved in performing arts or being in commercials. I like to. Well, I, um. I just like the van commercials because I see commercials every day. Mostly every day. And I like the way they look most of the time. Okay, that was pretty good. Now, what we need is someone to look right at us and talk. Right? And nice and clear. So we're going to take a break and come back and continue with our discussion on how to get your kids in commercials. Stay with us. Yeah, but you could really show that. That's what I wanted to do. Well, you did do that. You did it very well, I hope. That everybody. Thank you. Thank you. And. You actually see that out of it right now? Okay. Um, I. I started four years ago. And you're how old now? 12. Now, here's this week's community calendar. Hello, I'm Warren Thomson, representing Stockton Ltd. We are sponsoring a fall fashion festival featuring former Baltimore designer Larry Holland and his troupe on Sunday, November the 25th at Castro's 1811 Baker Street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=783.46,1007.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The fashion show begins at 5 p.m. and admission is $5. Proceeds will benefit the Baltimore Fashion Designers Fund. For further information, call 5425141. If your group or organization would like to announce an event, please write us in care of Cityline. WJC TV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland 21211. Or call us for further information at 46600013. Between the hours of nine and five. Welcome back to our discussion on getting your kid in commercials and adding to our group of guests is a lovely young lady by the name of Miss Paulette Kelly Hinch. Welcome very much. Thank you. How are you doing? Fine. You are a veteran of your commercials. For years you've been doing this longer than I have. You know, that kind of makes me feel a little bit nervous. How have you enjoyed it? So far, I've liked it very much. It's given me big opportunities to meet new people, and I like working with other kids and it's nice to be involved. You know, when I looked at your resume, I said, Wow, that much activity in four years. Tell us some of the commercials you've done. Well, I've done two McDonald's commercials. I've done a Buster Brown commercial for shoes. I've done a Channel seven commercial. Channel five commercial. And I just recently finished a suburban commercial. I have. And that's impressive. It certainly is. You have had quite a bit of training, haven't you? Yes. What sorts of things and how early did you start in your training? Well, I started when I was about seven and a half to eight years old, and I really didn't have a whole lot of training then. But now I just I started with a barber. But does the Academy of Performing Arts. And there I've taken audition preparation with Marcia that taught me how to be prepared for auditions and how to relate with other adults.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1008.5,1149.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I've taken singing classes and jazz classes and TV commercial classes and a TV production. I see you have a rather full schedule. I mean, at the ripe old age of 12, exactly. What is your goal? I would like to continue doing commercials. Do you want to get into movies, stage acting? What do you want to do with it? Well, first, I need just I want to finish school. Good idea. I like doing commercials and I want to get into some acting and some place and some musicals. How do you deal with the disappointment? I would imagine, even though your your resume reads, you know, very, very positively. And it's it's quite impressive. But there must have been some commercials you didn't get that you may have gone out for. How did you deal with the disappointment? Well, every month sometimes you go out for an audition and you don't always get it. But there's always other auditions that you can go out for and that you can get. But you always have to put your best into it. What do you say to yourself when you didn't get that commercial that maybe you really wanted and just didn't get it? Well, I guess they weren't looking for my type, but as long as I know that I did my best. That's beautiful. Well, how long have you been working with Paula? Paula came to us from Saint Louis about a year ago, and we've been working together since then. Now we. We have a head sheet and a head shot of Paula's. Let's see that. Let's see if we can get a shot of that. I we'll have to tilt it just a little because of the gloss. That's the pretty Paula Kelly. Hence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1151.21,1241.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What's important about this photograph? It's a straight on photograph with a lot of personality, with her eyes wide open, with a big smile with. And that shows Paula exactly as she is. Yes. Okay. And the resume is attached. Is that attached to the back? Now, Paula is going to do a reading for us. Right. Set that up for us. Okay. Well, what happens is lots of times you go out for an audition and they ask you to do a cold reading. A cold reading means they give you a script that you've never seen before, and sometimes they'll let you look at it beforehand. Many times they'll just say, There's the camera read. So, Paula, Paula has been trained now to go into that situation, to take a piece of copy and to read it cold, giving it what we feel is her best shot. Let's try it. This is what we call a public service announcement. This is different from selling a product. This is selling either a service or something for a health situation. And so Paula will we'll take a look at the copy and then she will read it for you. Okay. And while we're doing that, what's so great about Paul, I know it's kind of odd to talk about her as she's doing that reading. Marcia, I mean, Janet, Paula polishes a lot of personality when she speaks. Plus, she's very natural and a very normal, happy young lady. And that comes across when you're working or speaking with her. She exemplifies the use in America the way that you would want your product to represent and represent it. And that's a very definite quality. She speaks with her eyes and with her face. She's animated and those are very positive qualities in a young person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1242.41,1339.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. Are you ready, Paula? Yes. Okay. This is a public service announcement. I guess I never really think about being sick. Most kids don't. I mean, I do stay home from school once in a while because I have a cold or a sore throat. I'm sure that you do, too. But I never think about not being able to do what I want to do because my legs and my arms won't let me. At least I never did think about it until a few weeks ago when a girl came to our school. She's really great. Her name is Kim. Kim was in most of my classes and we liked the same things. We even saw the movie Karate Kid together twice. But Kim can't go to dance classes with me or run up and down stairs or sleepover at my house. Kim has cerebral palsy. Some people don't want to be Kim's friend because they think she talks funny. But Tim is my friend and I want to do something to help her and other kids like her. So this year I'm going to raise money for kids like her kid, Tim, with cerebral palsy. And when volunteers like me come to your door, please give a donation to help my friend Kim and all the other kids who can't do the things you do. Okay, that was good. Yeah, you get to pick up stuff and then we want to take some calls from home very quick of what Paula just did. I think for a first reading, she showed sensitivity. She showed that she was able to handle it. And I would hire. Great. Let's bring our whole audience in your live on City Line. Hello. Hello. You have a question? Yes. My question is this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1340.09,1444.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Most I've noticed in your audience, most of the kids are older kids. I have a 15 month old and I think, of course, as adorable and full of personality. I was wondering if there was much of a market for kids. You know, that's a great question. I think one of the things that we haven't dealt with yet is the fact that the market in the Washington Baltimore area is very limited as far as kids are concerned. And yes, there may be one or two jobs that that you do get a call for, but it's not like being in New York or California. And frankly, if I had a 15 month old child, even if the child was adorable and wonderful, I would not waste my time trying to find work for her. There's something else that you might want to touch on. We have talked a little bit about training and the kinds of training that these kids ought to have before they even start going on auditions and so forth. This doesn't come cheap, does it? No. Just having the pictures done doesn't come cheap, Just having a resumé made up of being put into the classes in the various performing arts. It's all an investment. And it's your time investment too, because you have to be available to take these children on auditions, sometimes 24 hours notice. I take children up to New York. That's $200 a trip. You know, you really have to be prepared to put a lot of money into your child's work for the parents. Absolutely. The training part is very important, too, because it prepares all of your parents on the proper type of headshots that you need, the proper type of wardrobe, the proper type of auditions that are most suited to your child's ability.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1444.69,1532.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And look in the field, there's all different types of looks that are acceptable. They don't have to necessarily be the quote unquote, model type. Acting is a very diversified field. Therefore, diversified children are needed, but you need the right preparation so that you don't waste money so that the time and effort that is spent is spent in a positive direction for you and your child. Thank you. Okay. Let's take a question from the audience. You've mentioned several times that you would need experience. Would you suggest that parents enter the children into local theater productions or activities like that to give them the experience? Definitely. The major casting agencies do not even want you to call them or consider going to them until your child has had experience. And to them, an experienced child is someone who's been in 4 to 6 plays with speaking parts, not just being a tree in the play or a bunny rabbit or something, but actually having speaking parts, performing in dance shows, getting up in front of a live audience and being different characters, you have to have experience. So that's a very good start for you. Thank you. Thank you. Another call from home. Hi, your live on City Line. Yes, I'm an actor and I think the problem with me is I always think, well, most of the kids and little kids that I've met are usually arrogant and have been that have been in a lot of national commercials. And I just I don't know how how could you really overcome this with your kids? Because I have cousins who are who like to get in a business with me and I and I just like to know, how can you stop this one even starting up? How do you stop them getting so conceited? Okay, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1533.57,1633.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that's a good question for Paula to answer. How do you keep from being conceited? Well, I try not to be too overwhelming. I think that it's I like to be very natural with the other actors, and I don't think it's necessarily being conceited. I think that's a misconception. The children are self-confident and believe in themselves and believe in what they can do. And therefore they're saying, I know I can do this, I'm successful, I can do a good job. And that's the difference in a professional kid. They believe that about themselves. Okay. We have another question from the audience. Yes, ma'am. Hi, my name is Cynthia Williams, and this is my daughter, Tanisha. My question is, why is it why does it seem like it's more difficult for black kids to break into the field of commercials? And you know why, kids? I mean, I feel like that's necessarily true, especially in the Washington Baltimore market. It is hard for any kid to break into the field of commercials. You would, of course, stand a much better chance of getting her work in New York, where they are more sophisticated in whom they choose to do various kinds of commercials. The market in New York is much more racially and ethnically varied. Washington has very limited opportunities we get. As much work, I imagine, as anybody else is getting right now as far as using children are concerned. And we do get a mixed racially amount of work. However, we get much more work for boys than for girls. So it's really sexual bias, more than racial bias. I mean, I can place every boy and I have a heck of a time placing girls. Now, you've talked about the limited amount of work in this corridor, but is there much work for blacks, period, in the Washington corridor? Yes, there is not much work, period.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1634.04,1740.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is not much work. But there is some work. Yes. For blacks. Yes. There is some work for blacks up. I wanted to ask you. So you came from Saint Louis. Do you travel around the country a lot or is most of your work in the Baltimore Washington area? Most of my work is in Washington and Baltimore. Are you hoping to get to travel? Was fun. I went up to New York one time and I went for an audition down there for a casting agency, and I enjoyed it. It was nice seeing how other agencies work besides ours. What's the hardest part of this business for you, Paula? I guess the hardest part would be, um, just warm. Warming up is really hard for me to do. But then once I'm there, once I'm doing it, it just seems like I'm just at home. Great. Okay, let's take another question from the audience. Yes, man. Hello? I just wanted to know if the success rate of a minority child is increasing enough for the parent to make the effort consistently. Because we have been to New York and we were told some things that frightened me, and I haven't pursued it until today. I think that any child that enters the performing arts field should not be entering the field just to be successful and to work and to be in commercials. I think they should be doing it for self image development and self improvement. And if the commercial work, the acting work, the stage work, the runway work comes along, that's great. That's like icing on the cake. But enter it with the idea for a learning experience to better your child, to help them be more confident, be more assertive. I'll never forget the experience because once we got to the audition, I went to the agency's office.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1741.9,1842.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Monica talked and it was like I only delivered her. I was for transportation. She took over from there and the agent was quite impressed. But the information she gave me about the experience and the call on Tuesday, and I'm due in New York on Thursday and the amount. But that's very true. You have to be prepared to do that. And that's why it takes a parent that's very devoted to their child. That makes many, many sacrifices. It has to be a parent that will give up a lot of their own life to give that child the advantage if your child wants it. And that's something that we spoke about in the beginning of the show. Make sure the child wants to do it as opposed to ask you. The parent, it seems, is into this business almost as much time wise, is definitely the parent has to make a total commitment, if not total commitment, because the parent is employed and has to give up periods of employment to take the child for auditions. The parent then has to make decisions as to where the parent's life fits in with all of this. It's a tremendous commitment, tremendous commitment. And it's also hard on the parent because the parent has to be in the background. The child is receiving the glory and the recognition, and the parent is responsible for getting the child there on time. Give us a feel for how much a child who is successful can possibly make on a commercial. Well, you know, I think you've all seen this People magazine which says how to make your child a star. And in a sense, I think that almost does does give us a disservice because everybody thinks, oh, my God, my child's going to get into a national commercial and make $5,000.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1844.07,1932.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"More than likely, if your child gets into a commercial, he or she is going to get into a local commercial and maybe make $200. If he gets into another commercial, he then has to join one of the unions. If he joins SAG, that's $600 to join. If he joins after, that's $300 to join. In many cases, he has to join both unions. He may never work again. I mean, that first job may be gravy. It money. Exactly. So it ends up you've paid for your photographs, you paid for your resume. You've now joined both unions. The kid now is 11 and has three pimples and they don't want to look at him. And so you've made this investment and there is no more work. Okay. Let's take another question from our studio audience. Yes, ma'am. Yes. I was wondering. Now, back in September, they had a sunburst pageant here for children and I did into my son. And he did win that particular contest. Now I want to know what other route should I take once he goes, Atlanta, Georgia, you know, in August. And what other steps do I take, you know, to get him at least in the door? You know, what would I do? A beauty pageant. What kind of pageant is that? It was a Sunburst USA pageant. Is it like a beauty pageant? Yes, it was a pageant. He won the photogenic contest. Did he have a particular talent? Does he do anything in particular? He does a lot. What sorts of things? What sort of things That he do? Well, he sings. He loves to sing. Spirituals, whatever. He also dances. He likes and he kicks and he likes to do what he wants to. I, you know, call him a character myself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=1934.01,2028.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. Let's see if we can get some advice for this particular parent. Okay. I think that beauty pageants are something that you should touch with a lace glove. Maybe it's a type of opportunity for children to get performing experience, which is always good. I mean, as many times as you can get your child in front of an audience, the more experience they're going to receive, the more confident they're going to be. But as far as that, on a resume being actual training and there are so many local beauty contest and there are so many pageants here and there that it's not really what you would put on a resume for qualifications. It's not what we're looking for, but it's good in the sense that it does give them experience. Okay. Well, if that's you know, if that's not, you know, what really should be done. What should be done? You should enroll him in classes where he can learn some movement, learn some acting classes, some introduction to acting classes, some creative acting is what it's called for children of that age, where they sort of play role characters and see what kind of expression that he has, what kind of moves he can. Thank you for your question. Ricocheted. We're going to take a break right now, but we'll be back once again to talk about how to get your kid in commercials. Stay with us. Well, the topic is how to get your kid into commercials. And there are people in the audience who want to know that. And there are folk at home that want to know the same thing. We're going to go right to a call. Hi, your live on City Line. Yes. How can I, um, establish contact in New York for being a talented commercial? Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=2029.57,2216.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There are trade papers I brought. I brought one with me so you can see what it looks like. This one is called Show Business. There's also a paper called Backstage. Get copies of the trade papers. They list all of the New York agents and just start sending pictures and resumes and follow up with phone calls. That's exactly the way we've done it for years. Okay. Marsha and Janet, how do you prepare to present yourself as a child or parent trying to prepare the child to get into commercials? What are the steps? What should they have? What's a part of that whole package? Okay. Let's let's say that they have determined that their child is something special. And that's not just because grandparents and aunts and uncles and people in the supermarket have said, hey, what a terrific kid. It's because your child really has something that you feel is commercially viable. Then you go to a good photographer that's not necessarily a portrait photographer who does these beautiful soft pictures, but someone who knows how to do head shots. That's a very precise field. You get a good head shot taken. Now you can go to someone like Janet or someone like me or other people around who can look over the contact sheet with you and say, that's the one to choose. Then you develop your resumé, your resume states not only your height and your weight and your sizes, but what your training is, what your previous experience has been, whether or not you have any talents. Do you speak any foreign languages? What sports are you involved in? All of the things that make it easy for a casting director to say, Hey, this is the kid I want? How does a person or how would a parent go about choosing a coach or an agent? Well, it's important that you go to someone that you feel comfortable with, and most of us all have workshops on a periodic basis which are open to the general public to bring new people in, to look over new people who want to have the opportunity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=2217.07,2327.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if you go to a workshop of this nature, you will be able to familiar familiarize yourself with their techniques, with their personalities, and see how you feel, because it's important that you have a good working relationship with the person that's representing you. You have a portfolio, what sorts of things are, and if we have a chance, we'd like to see some of it. What sorts of things do you put in your portfolio and are there any parts of it that you feel best about showing or. Well, I put all my print work in here and I think I try it. I'm done. Everything that I've done in my portfolio, I love this facility. We basically start out with just a headshot of there you go. Wish we showed that. Let's flip. And then here is my resumé and here is a shot of a fashion show that I was in. And then this was on one of my composites. So I took photos to see how my personality would be on camera. And there's I'm just relaxing. So what we're seeing, I know we can go through the entire portfolio, but what we're seeing are a variety of shots showing a variety of personalities and expressions. Okay, you can put this down. Great. That's why we've been talking about children being prepared and qualified because a child coming in that's cute and has personality is going to be competing against a child who's going to walk in with this book that says, see, I have already done all of this work. I have these tear sheets from different newspapers and magazines, which I've already been in print, and they're going to look at this child immediately. Now, you mentioned that you don't necessarily want to go to a portrait photographer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=2327.83,2427.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Definitely, no question. But do you recommend that you definitely seek professional photography help as opposed to a good looking candid shot that you talk know? Absolutely. You must have a sleek, professional photograph where they won't even bother looking at you first in your book. You have to have the headshot. Then as other pictures that you have in your portfolio, which I refer to as your book, you have to have pictures that are showing expressions and mood or character or different type shots to show your versatility. But the most important thing is a good headshot and you need to go see a professional commercial fashion photographer. And the only way you're going to find out who those people are are through people such as Marcia and myself, the casting agents, and that's what they're looking to look at. This is very hard work for the child, is definitely it's a total commitment. It has to be a child who loves it and really wants to do it. Who? And we only work with children who are that way. If we find a child, it's a little bit hesitant. We say, come back when you're ready. So, I mean, for one commercial, the child could do that over and over and over and over. And one of the questions in our quiz was, do they enjoy most foods? Because if it's a heating eating commercial and we had some children who did a Towson show commercial and they were eating waxed beans in a Saran wrap for four, 8 hours and had to smile and say, Isn't that wonderful? And you had an experience like, Oh, yes, I was in that. And it was. Strange. Another thing for children. Children change so quickly as they're growing, and you always have to keep your portfolio or your book updated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=2428.12,2523.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Your pictures have to match you. So if you have a drastic hairstyle change, none of your pictures are any good. You have to change your look. Again, quick question. What are the age ranges that are most popular for doing commercials? I would say five through 11. At this point, an age range is the key word because a child who is a little bit older but is very tiny and very petite usually is much more successful because they're more intelligent, more prepared, and they can carry off of that role. Marcia, Paula, Janet, thank you so much for coming by. Our pleasure. Who would like to pursue this? Getting your kids into commercials? We're going to put an address on the screen right now with phone number and hopefully you can follow through and good luck. Good afternoon. Topping today's news cab. Thousands of Ethiopians continue to face the battle of their lives because of drought and famine. Many of them will die even with international aid on the way. We have a graphic report from ABC. It was in the south of Ethiopia that the famine first struck. The government says the situation there has now been stabilized. But we found feeding centers still needed and people dying. And number 300 miles south of Addis Ababa, a five and a half month old child dies. The child had been brought to the center too late for medical attention. It was the second bereavement this mother had suffered was going mad. Another child is so far gone it can't take food. It's another problem that the relief workers face. Getting a child to the center doesn't necessarily save its life, despite what appears like the countryside. The people have already lost this year's crops. It is estimated that a minimum of 600,000 metric tons of grain will be needed to feed the Ethiopians for the next 12 months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=2524.74,2794.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So far, only half that amount has been pledged by international sources. Not so encouraging news for the needy at home. The Reagan administration has proposed that welfare recipients who fall behind on their rent have money automatically taken from their paychecks and given to their landlords. The rent deduction concept was part of a package of proposed changes estimated to save the government $52 million a year. That proposal was published in the Federal Register for 60 days of public comment. Chances are if you get sick any time soon and have to go to a hospital, physicians will not be referring you to Provident Hospital. Doctors there are still locked in a bitter dispute with Providence Board of Trustees. They are demanding more services and a change in administrative procedures. In 1980, here in the city, nearly half of all the men who were unemployed and not in the labor force were black men. During that same year, more than 70% of the state's prison population was also made up of black men. More than one third of all black men in Baltimore have increased medical risks due to high blood pressure. These and numerous other areas concerning the state of black men will be the topic of discussion at an upcoming conference at Morgan State University. Joining me now to discuss the conference is Richard Rowe of the Baltimore Urban League. Mr. Roe, thank you for joining us this morning. Thank you for having me here. Mr. Roe, give us an overview of what this conference hopes to accomplish. The statistics that you just cited, team and many, many more that have been compiled by both the Baltimore Urban League and the Black Mental Health Alliance has caused tremendous concern on our part. We think that those statistics reveal clearly that these physical and mental health status of black men have deteriorated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=2794.64,2897.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so what we hope to do is to examine both external and internal factors that have contributed to the decline in status in the health and mental health of black men. You have brought in a number of specialists and speakers to talk at this conference. Who are some of the participants? And Dr. Ackerman Lynch will start the program off on Thursday. Dr. Lynch is from the University of Maryland, Baltimore County, and he will look at the socio political, economic and cultural factors contributing to the extinction of black men in our society. We also have Dr. Maxey, Collier Cinema, Marriot Ross Forward, Dr. James McGhee, Dr. Sam Banks and a whole host of other individuals too, that I think will bring a clarity to this problem and who are concerned and committed to resolving the problems that face black men and black male adolescence in our community. Now, Richard, when will the conference be held and is there any fee involved? Yes, the conference will be held again on November 29th and 30th from 830 to 430 both days. The conference will be held at Morgan State University, McCallion Center, and the course for professionals and employed individuals is $8. If you are a student with the proper I.D. or unemployed, there is there is no fee. Richard Rowe, thank you very much. Thank you. In other news, former Congresswoman Shirley Chisholm will be on in Colombia today drumming up support for the newly formed National Black Women's Political Caucus. Chisholm is president of the group. She will be speaking at the Interfaith Center in Wild Lake Village, Columbia, beginning at 3 p.m.. And finally, Whitney Watts, a 17 year old senior at Pikesville Senior High School, is Cityline student of the Week. Whitney is a member of the National Honor Society and the French Club.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=2898.14,3003.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She is a semifinalist in the National Achievement Program and the Maryland Distinguished Scholars Program. Whitney has been named who's who among American high school students. In her spare time, she plays the flute and is a member of the Maryland Women's Campaign Fund. Whitney, who has applied to Harvard, plans to major in biochemistry and become a pediatrician. Congrats. Relations to Whitney Watts City Cityline Student of the Week. Howard Anthony is up next with the entertainment page. I'm Tim on Twitter. Have a good day. Hello. I'm heroine Anthony and my featured artist on today's entertainment page is a new addition to the music industry. They are five energetic and talented youngsters who got their start by imitating the idols Who are the Jackson five, The Temptations and the Silvers on a Boston street corner. The names are Ricky, Ronnie, Bobby, Ralph and Michael. They're all 16 years old, and they go by the name of New Addition. Although they were veteran street performers in the Roxbury section of Boston, they did not make their professional debut until they entered a talent contest at Boston's Strand Theater in 1981. It was there that they captured the attention of producer Steve Morris, who was in the audience. This rising young producer immediately recognized the potential of the quintet, performing for the crowd of near hysterical fans. He signed the group and set to work on their debut album, which contained the hit Candy Girl, which topped the charts in five countries. In fact, his debut hit was so popular that it moved Michael Jackson's beat it out of the number one slot. Since then, they've become one of the hottest new groups in the country with their latest hit called Cool It. Now, here is New Edition. Around. You sound like me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=3004.4,3200.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm Nancy. I. The San Francisco. With. He's going to have to really deal. But this girl is now found. I know. I'm almost right. I think a girl will take the time. And I must tell the pigskin, I used to say she'll let you know tomorrow night yourself. Be ready to go. And I hope this message teasing almost all the girls would run on time. There's one more thing that you got to know. Just put it down. They think it's all. Watch out. So it. The. Never be the same until you 0506 Dwight All coming down on each other. Tell me how my life is supposed to be. I know you want to help me out and show me what it's really about on my own. So why don't you just leave me alone? Ronnie. Bobby, Boogie away. I love. It. Slowly. Slowly. That was New Edition with their latest short burner called Cool It Now. I'd like to take a minute to share some good news with all you Tina Turner fans. With the release of her new private dancer LP Teen, whose career has been moving along in leaps and bounds. Her latest endeavor brings it to the silver screen. She is currently in Australia filming the third installment to the Mad Max Road Warrior trilogy. If Tina brings just one half of the energy into the movie that she puts into a stage performances, then the producers will undoubtedly have a blockbuster hit on their hands. Well, once again, we've run out of time. But before I go, I want to tell you about the latest production at the Jazz Closet. The Spirit of Malik Theater proudly Presents Sunday, a play by Baltimore's own R.B. Jones. You can catch this production tonight at the Jazz Closet, located at 222 West Franklin Street at 8 p.m..","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220#t=3205.93,3438.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/86943/file/175220/transcript/41921/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For ticket information, you can call 7523897. That wraps it up for another Sunday. But I want you to be sure to join me here for next week's edition of the entertainment page when I'll feature the Jacksons torture video. Till then, I'm Howard Anthony, hoping that you all have a safe and happy Thanksgiving week. Thank you, Hal. Welcome back. And before we go, I'd like to thank all of you for being here. I hope you got a lot of good information, you two at home about how to get your kid into commercials. The information was good, and hopefully it'll work for everybody. Coming up next week is a more sobering subject. The war in Vietnam was devastating to most Americans, including blacks. And next week, the author of the book called Blood's Mr. Wallace Terry, will be here talking about the oral history of Vietnam as seen through the eyes of 20 black soldiers. And we'd like to invite some of the Vietnam veterans who are out in our studio, in our home audience to join us here in the studio to share your experiences with us. And you can do that by calling 481 1313 for seat reservations. We'd love for you to be with us next Sunday. Okay. Well, that's about it. I'd like to once again thank you for being with us this afternoon. I'm Betty Bentley. I'm Jackie Hall, wishing you a good Sunday and also a happy Thanksgiving. Bye bye. 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