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We begin by talking about Governor Schaefer and his newly announced change of position on the controversial issue of abortion. The governor making the statement that he would not ask the state legislature when it meets in January for more money to help poor women obtain abortions, despite a campaign promise that he would fight for more lenient rules on the Medicaid funded abortion issue. Tonight on Square Off, we ask those of you at home and those of you on our panel, should the state provide money for poor women to have abortions? George Dale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=71.07,99.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I think the state should. As a matter of fact, I think in many occasions abortion should be mandatory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=99.81,104.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Linda Chavez.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=105.33,105.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I don't think the state should provide money. It's a deeply emotional issue and it's one that people feel strongly about and have moral views on. And the state should provide money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=106.5,114.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Janet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=114.87,114.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e So women don't have a choice unless the state helps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=115.56,118.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And Billy Murphy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=119.21,119.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Although I'm personally against abortion, I think we have an obligation to keep the coat hanger and the back alley abortionist out of business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=120.12,127.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about abortions and other subjects in the news this week as we square off. Yes, that's okay. Yes. George, just a minute. Good to have you back. Good evening, everyone. It is Saturday night. It is 730. Welcome to another edition of Square Off. And we have a lot to talk about, about the abortion issue. But first, some of you were talking in reference to Governor Schafer about the fact that on Tuesday night when Mayor Kurt Schmoke was sworn into office, the governor's presence. Well, he was missed. He wasn't there. He was up at Saint Mary's College getting a doctorate. And many of you feel that the governor should have changed his plans to accommodate the inauguration. What are your feelings about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=127.56,173.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he could have gotten the doctorate at some other time. He could not have gone to the inauguration at any other time. He had an obligation as the mayor of this city for the past 13 years. He had an obligation to wish Kurt Schmoke well, to be a gentleman, to show the kind of social grace that we expect from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=173.93,190.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What you are seeing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=191.21,191.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And I think that that has reversed his dispute with Kurt Schmoke to a petty dispute which threatens the welfare of both the state and the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=192.86,201.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And it's the fact that I think you've demeaned the governor. And I don't think the governor intended to demean Kurt Smoke. The fact is that they knew that the governor was invited to receive a degree from Saint Mary's College more than six months ago. They didn't get the invitations off of people until some people didn't get the invitation to last week. So they could have taken it. They could have had the inaugural inauguration at another time and the governor could have come at another time. But I don't think that the governor's trying to put Mayor Schmoke down. I think it just occurred that way. And the governor had a prior commitment. Everybody gets all opinions about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=201.86,232.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Things that can be used. And you can say he had another commitment. You know as well as all of us do that any governor has so much going on that he has something going on all the time. And unless he prioritizes those, this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=232.64,245.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Was only happened one time. So it could have been done better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=245.18,248.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Faster. Please, George.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=248.42,249.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Then he is not going to do some of the things that are very important. This should have been a priority for him. He was the guy. He was the mayor of this city for long enough to know the time when they were going to have the inauguration. 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I think that that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=269.06,269.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Was part of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=270.56,271.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e George's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=272.12,272.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Purpose. Listen, obviously, people who are busy have conflicts and sometimes you can't do anything about it. But this was a very sensitive thing. People know that Kurt Schmoke wasn't top on the mayor's former mayor's list in terms of succession.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=273.32,286.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So therefore, if Mayor Schmoke can emphasize the fact that there may have been a problem between them before then, then possibly he will get better treatment from Annapolis. I don't know. But something has gone wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=287.42,299.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=299.41,299.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think it's all to do with it with the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=299.75,301.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Governor. You guys wanted to talk about that. You had a chance. So let's talk about Governor Schaefer and the statement that he made that he would not ask the legislature for more money to fund abortions for poor women. And there was a demonstration against him on Tuesday night up in Emmitsburg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=301.7,316.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm astonished. I really am, because I truly thought and I think most of the people who've been involved in various organizations trying to help poor women believed that he would keep his word and do the thing that needs to be done. How else are poor women going to have the choice that middle class women and upperclass women get and have had all through the years? Why are we condemning them either to have these days, which we know are not going to get adopted, is very difficult. It's very difficult to adopt babies from those poor families. We've known that through the years. What's the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=317.06,345.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Point? There are two issues here. One is abortion and one is who pays for it. And I think on the issue of abortion, you can have a different point of view. You might even have people who are pro-choice who will understand that those people who find this morally offensive don't want to be asked to pay for the abortion. And that's the issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=345.59,361.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd like to carry two step father. You say there are two issues here. There are three. One is the veracity of the governor, and the next are whether you can have an abortion about who's going to pay for it. So you have three issues here. Number one, I think an elected official has a perfect right. If he or she changes his or her opinion about something to change his or her mind. This is what it's all about. This is democracy, Republican Republicanism, and they have a right to do it. The next issue is whether anyone has a right to an abortion or not. I disagree with the Supreme Court decision that the right to privacy in certain occasions. If we allow people to do in the privacy of the bedroom with the privacy of the body what they wanted, then people could shoot their spouses if they were ill and dying. That's the privacy of the bedroom. We have all of these issues and the question is whether people should have abortion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=361.67,407.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e When they're getting less than the three that you deal with who ought to pay for it? Absolutely. The poor cannot pay for their own abortions. And to simply decide the question on the basis of a moral issue means that you're really punting against the poor once again. 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They're going to be people who get pregnant who shouldn't be pregnant. They're going to be people who want abortions. And if they're denied the right to get an abortion or the opportunity to get an abortion, they're going to use coat hangers. 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One of the first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=452.95,455.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Issue is whether the governor had a right to change his mind, whether you can have an abortion. Who's going to pay for it? And the fourth issue is if abortions are going to be paid by the state and they are legal, then what about mandatory abortions for people who are irresponsible for their actions in society? 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What about making it impossible for men to have babies? What about what about making it possible to sterilize women?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=481.96,490.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So you want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=491.23,491.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To clean things out of government money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=492.25,493.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Supply? What you think? What did you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=494.2,495.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You heard me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=496.09,496.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Say it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=497.28,497.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Again. Okay. The point I'm going to make here is in response to what Linda was saying, I do believe, though, that if we're talking about the cost to the state, when we talk about not allowing women or not helping subsidize the abortions, what happens to the child that gets here? We're going to have to pay no matter what the child gets here is not in a situation where he's being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=497.59,517.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not but I'm not I'm not debating I'm not debating the relative cause I am simply saying that for some people this is a serious moral issue which offends their most fundamental beliefs. 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It's illegal, and we're passing out condoms at the expense of the taxpayer to take care of this issue. You understand it is not an issue and it is not it is not a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=536.83,550.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Point that way. 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And it's the same thing with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=578.98,582.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You hear what I say, issue what is important to see how it is that we raise children properly, that we provide for. 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Forget all of us which are about morality. Get rid of the unborn fetuses as they are, pay for it. 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Well, they come back. It's Hustler magazine versus the Reverend Jerry Falwell. We'll be back in a moment. All right. Let's talk about Hustler magazine and the Reverend Jerry Falwell. Hustler printing an article or a parody a little while ago in 1983 and 84, describing a fictitious scene of the Reverend Jerry Falwell having sex with his mother in an outhouse and talking about getting drunk. It was I don't know what the heck can you possibly be laughing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=610.01,750.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's ludicrous. I really do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=752.04,753.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How would you like it if it was written? If it was suggested that you are you are right. Like you've been drinking. What was in this bottle here in this ad?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=755.16,760.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think there's a real problem when you have no rules at all and you can say anything about anyone, so long as they're a public person. 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And we have you don't have a right in this country to yell fire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=775.35,793.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's exactly right. 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It's such a burlesque. Now, let's put aside the fact that Hustler is probably the most tasteless magazine in the universe. This is an obvious thing that. That's right. This is an obvious burlesque of everything that Falwell stands for. It isn't simply an obscene remark. It isn't meant to arouse people sexually. It's a parody of what Falwell stands for. 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Yes, we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=831.96,832.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do. Yeah, but Janet is saying what Janet is saying is that there is a line. I mean, how offensive can you be as offensive as you want to be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=833.07,839.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's put it this way. There was a cartoon back in 1969 of a judge on the McGovern County bench masturbating as he sent in someone to a long jail sentence. And that was held not to be obscene by our courts. And that was a correct decision because it wasn't meant to arouse anybody's sexuality. It was a comment on that judge. It was the most extreme kind of statement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=839.4,860.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I truly think that you can't put a muzzle on cartoonists and people who are making commentary about the political scene. I think it's important that we have that. Otherwise, we just have, you know, just kind of dreary, boring kinds of statements about things because we would be so afraid. You know, I think, listen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=860.97,875.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You've got a society in England where they do have strictures on the kind of things can be put in the press. And it's no less a free society than we are here in the United States. There is freedom of the press. There is that as there is free there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=875.55,887.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The fact they do not have a right to subpoena records from the federal government or from the government.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=888.15,894.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They don't have a written, they have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=895.05,895.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Secret.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=895.94,895.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And they don't have the Bill of Rights.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=896.43,897.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So it is a far less liberal society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=897.99,899.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The point is that the First Amendment of the Constitution was was there to protect political speech. And we have gone very far protecting very nonpolitical speech. We've gone far into the area of allowing obscenity and pornography. And I don't think that that necessarily is in the interest of the system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=900.69,918.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But we've got it. We can do additional work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=918.45,919.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We can say about this cartoon is that it is tasteless. Had it been presented as a story which appeared to be valid and it were published in the print media, I think Falwell would have called for a suit. But obviously, no one believes that Falwell is having sexual intercourse with his mother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=920.01,935.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He says, Me to Falwell, he's a very intelligent man, would have brought this thing to court, and we've fought it. I don't believe that in the first place. But he did it, so I've got to believe it. I don't I think that anyone could write anything about me and it wouldn't bother me, in essence, because I know myself. And if people would believe something that is written in parody, then then I think that the people reading it. A So I'm not going to worry about it. 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And I think that's a part of why he did it, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=965.28,972.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But the very fact that the Supreme Court has granted cert in his hearing this case indicates that there is a legal issue, there's substance to it. There is a legal issue to be decided. This is not a frivolous thing. Supreme Court doesn't take up every case that comes to it. 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I feel he spent a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=988.89,993.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Lifetime Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan meeting in Washington this week, signing the IAF treaty to limit certain missiles, nuclear forces. I just wondered what your reaction to the treaty to Gorbachev as a man. What did you think about the treaty? 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I haven't gotten into him yet. You have to give me a chance. I have some feelings about him, too. I think he has a wonderful smile. But as someone said, he has iron teeth. I think he is really looking very carefully at everything. And I think that he has his own interests at heart and we have to be very wary of him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1048.54,1066.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think by all accounts, I agree Mikhail Gorbachev is in the prime of his political life and Ronald Reagan is having the honor. And one of the most unnerving aspects of this summit is that we are letting Ronald Reagan go into a locker room by himself with Mikhail Gorbachev. There's no question in my mind. And Mikhail Gorbachev, I think, is passing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1066.36,1088.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you're sitting there saying the president is senile. You have no proof of that. Well, let's talk about the issue. 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The big issue here is not the personalities of the president or the premier. The big issue here is whether the treaty in itself should have been signed and not we have the Helsinki Accord, which has not been adhered to by them. What we at issue here is the people of the United States and Russia getting along and a treaty doesn't do that. What should be done is the barriers between the two countries should be cut down by the Russians and allow the Russians people to emigrate if they want a chance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1100.15,1133.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And it is a symbol and symbols are important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1133.68,1136.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's also a problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1137.46,1138.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e One at a time, ladies and gentlemen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1139.53,1140.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e If it is a symbol, then let's look at how they have adhered to previous treaties. We've signed something like 17 treaties with, and they have never lived up to a single treaty we've signed. And I don't know why anybody believes that this is going to be any different. The idea that somehow Mikhail Gorbachev is the new leader, that somehow he's going to be something different. That man could be out tomorrow in the prime of his political life. They don't elect people. That's not a democratic society. We could be yesterday's story. How long did Khrushchev last after he.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1141.78,1167.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Was born that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1168.86,1169.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Janet responded.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1169.98,1170.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That they believe that is going to work this time is because they think he's in a precarious position right now. There are 13 members of that Politburo and most of them are very conservative. He is trying his best to get along with them and make changes, as Khrushchev did, because he wants to modernize without actually embracing democracy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1170.88,1187.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He came over here with a treaty in hand for us to sign to our senile president. Why in the world didn't he remove the troops from Afghanistan? Why didn't he remove the troops from Central America?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1188.11,1197.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Me? Why he didn't do it. I don't know why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1198.48,1200.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Why didn't he just show the barrier between trade and between the people? Between.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1200.46,1205.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let. Let let me deal with this business about verification and not trusting the Russians. There's no need for a treaty if you trust your neighbor. The thing is, there are only four people who don't trust into don't trust. Number two, I'm really worried about our defensiveness in negotiating with other countries, because for the first time, we seem to fear that these countries can get the better of us, given our best effort. I don't buy that as a presumption. I think it is possible to come up with a treaty with Russia. I think it's necessary that we have treaties with Russia. I believe that verification, given the increased sophistication of our technological abilities and oversights satellites, it was not possible to not have a treaty excuse me and not have a treaty because we might not be able to verify it. I think sells us all short.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1206.01,1251.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not suggesting we not have treaties. 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What is the point of having an agreement if you're in a labor dispute and you've got a labor contract and one side unilaterally abandons the terms of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1259.14,1268.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The contract is and using your analogy, there are many violations of labor contracts all the time. The contracted solution is not throughout the contract. The solution is to heal the violence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1269.07,1279.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, get them back to the table, but don't look at their violations of the ABM Treaty. 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If you if they can't allow their people to immigrate and live as they want and to make a living as they want and have the freedoms that we have in this country, then they are not going to adhere to a treaty to reduce any kind of issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1285.45,1310.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Say, about you, about Gorbachev's response to that is that he's saying that we're trying to do a brain drain, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1311.23,1318.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is ridiculous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1318.57,1318.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, and also it's that he he's really so much a part of that whole communist scene when he says that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1319.65,1325.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e If those people were such a drain on the society. Why don't they let them work? If you're a Jew and you applied to leave to go to Israel or the United States or someplace else, you're out of work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1325.86,1334.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that also many, many segments of the Christian population have fundamentalism in Russia who are not allowed to work, and they're sent to one of the outpost in Russia they've gotten rid of. Now, if he's interested in bringing the people home and he doesn't want to drain Russia, why did he bring the troops home from Afghanistan? He is duplicitous in his attitude with us. He is just duplicitous in the treaty. 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And that's why they're saying now is the time for him to get something done here, that he can take back and wave at them and say we are moving forward in our relations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1356.33,1370.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e One is also the same time he was waving something at us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1371.03,1373.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What can you say about the first lady? The first lady of the Soviet Union? What do you think of Raisa?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1374.03,1377.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This was a cat fight extraordinaire on the international level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1378.32,1381.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They don't like each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1382.43,1383.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, but it's high stakes politics because they're using Raisa for political purposes. She's. She's eminently usable in that regard. Nancy is as well. And so there was a turf struggle. It got nasty. I think Nancy's one round to round three is yet to be seen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1384.67,1399.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62835/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We will be back in just a minute. All right. Let's quickly jump into our 12th mailbag and come up with a few letters. Here's one from PR Williams of Baltimore. Why can't the Reverend St George Cross address the issue at hand? Huh? There is a difference between abortion and child abuse. Just because he is a man of the cloth does not make his word gospel. And here is a letter from E Allen of Owings Mills, Maryland, who writes, It's obvious that President Reagan's much criticized military spending is paying off now that the Soviets can hardly afford to feed their own people. Mr. Gorbachev is forced to sit down and talk world peace and arms control. We'd like to thank you for your letters. Do you have any comments about these folks at the table tonight or about the subjects that we discuss? Here's the address. Square off W Jay Z, TV, Television, Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. Two 1 to 1 one. Be sure to get those letters in the mail so we can read them on the air next Saturday night. Stay tuned now for the lotto. Good luck to all of you. Hope you won the million, George and the laughs tomorrow. Same here. 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We begin by talking about Governor Schaefer and his newly announced change of position on the controversial issue of abortion. The governor making the statement that he would not ask the state legislature when it meets in January for more money to help poor women obtain abortions, despite a campaign promise that he would fight for more lenient rules on the Medicaid funded abortion issue. Tonight on Square Off, we ask those of you at home and those of you on our panel, should the state provide money for poor women to have abortions? George Dale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=71.07,99.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I think the state should. As a matter of fact, I think in many occasions abortion should be mandatory.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=99.81,104.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Linda Chavez.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=105.33,105.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I don't think the state should provide money. It's a deeply emotional issue and it's one that people feel strongly about and have moral views on. And the state should provide money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=106.5,114.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Janet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=114.87,114.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e So women don't have a choice unless the state helps.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=115.56,118.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And Billy Murphy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=119.21,119.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Although I'm personally against abortion, I think we have an obligation to keep the coat hanger and the back alley abortionist out of business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=120.12,127.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about abortions and other subjects in the news this week as we square off. Yes, that's okay. Yes. George, just a minute. Good to have you back. Good evening, everyone. It is Saturday night. It is 730. Welcome to another edition of Square Off. And we have a lot to talk about, about the abortion issue. But first, some of you were talking in reference to Governor Schafer about the fact that on Tuesday night when Mayor Kurt Schmoke was sworn into office, the governor's presence. Well, he was missed. He wasn't there. He was up at Saint Mary's College getting a doctorate. And many of you feel that the governor should have changed his plans to accommodate the inauguration. What are your feelings about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=127.56,173.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he could have gotten the doctorate at some other time. He could not have gone to the inauguration at any other time. He had an obligation as the mayor of this city for the past 13 years. 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And I don't think the governor intended to demean Kurt Smoke. The fact is that they knew that the governor was invited to receive a degree from Saint Mary's College more than six months ago. They didn't get the invitations off of people until some people didn't get the invitation to last week. So they could have taken it. They could have had the inaugural inauguration at another time and the governor could have come at another time. But I don't think that the governor's trying to put Mayor Schmoke down. I think it just occurred that way. And the governor had a prior commitment. Everybody gets all opinions about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=201.86,232.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Things that can be used. And you can say he had another commitment. You know as well as all of us do that any governor has so much going on that he has something going on all the time. 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Please, George.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=248.42,249.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Then he is not going to do some of the things that are very important. This should have been a priority for him. He was the guy. He was the mayor of this city for long enough to know the time when they were going to have the inauguration. 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Listen, obviously, people who are busy have conflicts and sometimes you can't do anything about it. But this was a very sensitive thing. People know that Kurt Schmoke wasn't top on the mayor's former mayor's list in terms of succession.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=273.32,286.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So therefore, if Mayor Schmoke can emphasize the fact that there may have been a problem between them before then, then possibly he will get better treatment from Annapolis. I don't know. But something has gone wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=287.42,299.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=299.41,299.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think it's all to do with it with the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=299.75,301.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Governor. You guys wanted to talk about that. You had a chance. So let's talk about Governor Schaefer and the statement that he made that he would not ask the legislature for more money to fund abortions for poor women. And there was a demonstration against him on Tuesday night up in Emmitsburg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=301.7,316.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm astonished. I really am, because I truly thought and I think most of the people who've been involved in various organizations trying to help poor women believed that he would keep his word and do the thing that needs to be done. How else are poor women going to have the choice that middle class women and upperclass women get and have had all through the years? Why are we condemning them either to have these days, which we know are not going to get adopted, is very difficult. It's very difficult to adopt babies from those poor families. We've known that through the years. What's the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=317.06,345.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Point? There are two issues here. One is abortion and one is who pays for it. And I think on the issue of abortion, you can have a different point of view. You might even have people who are pro-choice who will understand that those people who find this morally offensive don't want to be asked to pay for the abortion. And that's the issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=345.59,361.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'd like to carry two step father. You say there are two issues here. There are three. One is the veracity of the governor, and the next are whether you can have an abortion about who's going to pay for it. So you have three issues here. Number one, I think an elected official has a perfect right. If he or she changes his or her opinion about something to change his or her mind. This is what it's all about. This is democracy, Republican Republicanism, and they have a right to do it. The next issue is whether anyone has a right to an abortion or not. I disagree with the Supreme Court decision that the right to privacy in certain occasions. If we allow people to do in the privacy of the bedroom with the privacy of the body what they wanted, then people could shoot their spouses if they were ill and dying. That's the privacy of the bedroom. We have all of these issues and the question is whether people should have abortion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=361.67,407.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e When they're getting less than the three that you deal with who ought to pay for it? Absolutely. The poor cannot pay for their own abortions. And to simply decide the question on the basis of a moral issue means that you're really punting against the poor once again. 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They're going to be people who get pregnant who shouldn't be pregnant. They're going to be people who want abortions. And if they're denied the right to get an abortion or the opportunity to get an abortion, they're going to use coat hangers. 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We're going to have to pay the cost of that health care. They're going to get prosecuted for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=441.44,450.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It if she's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=451.0,451.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Going to get out for a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=451.93,452.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Lot of guys. One of the first.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=452.95,455.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Issue is whether the governor had a right to change his mind, whether you can have an abortion. Who's going to pay for it? And the fourth issue is if abortions are going to be paid by the state and they are legal, then what about mandatory abortions for people who are irresponsible for their actions in society? This is a tough point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=456.05,475.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Every woman in the country ought to try and fund that. With that said, you know what? What are talking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=475.84,481.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e About the nuclear issue? What about making it impossible for men to have babies? What about what about making it possible to sterilize women?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=481.96,490.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e So you want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=491.23,491.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To clean things out of government money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=492.25,493.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Supply? What you think? What did you say?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=494.2,495.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You heard me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=496.09,496.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Say it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=497.28,497.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Again. Okay. The point I'm going to make here is in response to what Linda was saying, I do believe, though, that if we're talking about the cost to the state, when we talk about not allowing women or not helping subsidize the abortions, what happens to the child that gets here? We're going to have to pay no matter what the child gets here is not in a situation where he's being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=497.59,517.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not but I'm not I'm not debating I'm not debating the relative cause I am simply saying that for some people this is a serious moral issue which offends their most fundamental beliefs. And that's to ask those people to have their taxpayer dollars go to pay for what's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=518.35,532.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The right way to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=533.26,534.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Moral.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=534.88,534.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But nobody's asking for sodomy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=535.48,536.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To make money for me is immoral. It's illegal, and we're passing out condoms at the expense of the taxpayer to take care of this issue. You understand it is not an issue and it is not it is not a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=536.83,550.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Point that way. Let me suggest that we must balance two conflicting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=550.66,554.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I agree. This is the whole point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=555.28,556.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The one is whether we believe in abortion and those of us who do, any of those of us who don't. 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I agree that what is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=572.62,577.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=578.11,578.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e 30.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=578.61,578.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Seconds is what is important in this thing. And it's the same thing with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=578.98,582.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You hear what I say, issue what is important to see how it is that we raise children properly, that we provide for. 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Forget all of us which are about morality. Get rid of the unborn fetuses as they are, pay for it. And in addition to what sterilized men never.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=593.15,602.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Talk to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=603.25,603.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We can never sterilize men who, in addition to going out and impregnating women, refuse to accept it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=603.73,609.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Well, they come back. It's Hustler magazine versus the Reverend Jerry Falwell. We'll be back in a moment. All right. Let's talk about Hustler magazine and the Reverend Jerry Falwell. Hustler printing an article or a parody a little while ago in 1983 and 84, describing a fictitious scene of the Reverend Jerry Falwell having sex with his mother in an outhouse and talking about getting drunk. It was I don't know what the heck can you possibly be laughing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=610.01,750.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's ludicrous. I really do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=752.04,753.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How would you like it if it was written? If it was suggested that you are you are right. Like you've been drinking. What was in this bottle here in this ad?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=755.16,760.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think there's a real problem when you have no rules at all and you can say anything about anyone, so long as they're a public person. It's it's difficult in a society to have the rules of comedy, to have the rules of decency.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=761.85,774.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Falwell has brought more down on his house by making a lot of noise about it than would have been said if he had just shut up and forgotten. Look, let's face it, Reverend Falwell is okay and Flynt is okay. And we have you don't have a right in this country to yell fire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=775.35,793.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's exactly right. Nor do they have the right to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=794.16,796.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There's no fire in this theater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=796.29,797.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And for Flynt and for Falwell to honestly expect people to say he was injured because of this cartoon is ludicrous. It's such a burlesque. Now, let's put aside the fact that Hustler is probably the most tasteless magazine in the universe. This is an obvious thing that. That's right. This is an obvious burlesque of everything that Falwell stands for. It isn't simply an obscene remark. It isn't meant to arouse people sexually. It's a parody of what Falwell stands for. And it's offensive that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=797.61,828.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The only way that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=829.02,829.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We in America have the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=829.53,830.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Right to be is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=831.23,831.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e To be offensive. Yes, we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=831.96,832.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do. Yeah, but Janet is saying what Janet is saying is that there is a line. I mean, how offensive can you be as offensive as you want to be?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=833.07,839.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's put it this way. There was a cartoon back in 1969 of a judge on the McGovern County bench masturbating as he sent in someone to a long jail sentence. And that was held not to be obscene by our courts. And that was a correct decision because it wasn't meant to arouse anybody's sexuality. It was a comment on that judge. It was the most extreme kind of statement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=839.4,860.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I truly think that you can't put a muzzle on cartoonists and people who are making commentary about the political scene. I think it's important that we have that. Otherwise, we just have, you know, just kind of dreary, boring kinds of statements about things because we would be so afraid. You know, I think, listen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=860.97,875.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You've got a society in England where they do have strictures on the kind of things can be put in the press. And it's no less a free society than we are here in the United States. There is freedom of the press. 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We can do additional work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=918.45,919.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We can say about this cartoon is that it is tasteless. Had it been presented as a story which appeared to be valid and it were published in the print media, I think Falwell would have called for a suit. But obviously, no one believes that Falwell is having sexual intercourse with his mother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=920.01,935.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He says, Me to Falwell, he's a very intelligent man, would have brought this thing to court, and we've fought it. I don't believe that in the first place. But he did it, so I've got to believe it. I don't I think that anyone could write anything about me and it wouldn't bother me, in essence, because I know myself. And if people would believe something that is written in parody, then then I think that the people reading it. A So I'm not going to worry about it. 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And I think that's a part of why he did it, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=965.28,972.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But the very fact that the Supreme Court has granted cert in his hearing this case indicates that there is a legal issue, there's substance to it. There is a legal issue to be decided. This is not a frivolous thing. Supreme Court doesn't take up every case that comes to it. 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I feel he spent a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=988.89,993.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Lifetime Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan meeting in Washington this week, signing the IAF treaty to limit certain missiles, nuclear forces. I just wondered what your reaction to the treaty to Gorbachev as a man. What did you think about the treaty? 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I haven't gotten into him yet. You have to give me a chance. I have some feelings about him, too. I think he has a wonderful smile. But as someone said, he has iron teeth. I think he is really looking very carefully at everything. And I think that he has his own interests at heart and we have to be very wary of him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1048.54,1066.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think by all accounts, I agree Mikhail Gorbachev is in the prime of his political life and Ronald Reagan is having the honor. And one of the most unnerving aspects of this summit is that we are letting Ronald Reagan go into a locker room by himself with Mikhail Gorbachev. There's no question in my mind. And Mikhail Gorbachev, I think, is passing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1066.36,1088.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you're sitting there saying the president is senile. You have no proof of that. Well, let's talk about the issue. 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The big issue here is not the personalities of the president or the premier. The big issue here is whether the treaty in itself should have been signed and not we have the Helsinki Accord, which has not been adhered to by them. What we at issue here is the people of the United States and Russia getting along and a treaty doesn't do that. What should be done is the barriers between the two countries should be cut down by the Russians and allow the Russians people to emigrate if they want a chance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1100.15,1133.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And it is a symbol and symbols are important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1133.68,1136.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's also a problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1137.46,1138.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e One at a time, ladies and gentlemen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1139.53,1140.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e If it is a symbol, then let's look at how they have adhered to previous treaties. We've signed something like 17 treaties with, and they have never lived up to a single treaty we've signed. And I don't know why anybody believes that this is going to be any different. The idea that somehow Mikhail Gorbachev is the new leader, that somehow he's going to be something different. That man could be out tomorrow in the prime of his political life. They don't elect people. That's not a democratic society. We could be yesterday's story. 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There are 13 members of that Politburo and most of them are very conservative. He is trying his best to get along with them and make changes, as Khrushchev did, because he wants to modernize without actually embracing democracy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1170.88,1187.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e He came over here with a treaty in hand for us to sign to our senile president. Why in the world didn't he remove the troops from Afghanistan? Why didn't he remove the troops from Central America?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1188.11,1197.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Me? Why he didn't do it. I don't know why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1198.48,1200.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Why didn't he just show the barrier between trade and between the people? Between.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1200.46,1205.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let. Let let me deal with this business about verification and not trusting the Russians. There's no need for a treaty if you trust your neighbor. The thing is, there are only four people who don't trust into don't trust. Number two, I'm really worried about our defensiveness in negotiating with other countries, because for the first time, we seem to fear that these countries can get the better of us, given our best effort. I don't buy that as a presumption. I think it is possible to come up with a treaty with Russia. I think it's necessary that we have treaties with Russia. I believe that verification, given the increased sophistication of our technological abilities and oversights satellites, it was not possible to not have a treaty excuse me and not have a treaty because we might not be able to verify it. I think sells us all short.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1206.01,1251.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not suggesting we not have treaties. What I am suggesting is that when they violate the treaty, all bets are off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1251.46,1256.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that's what happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1257.49,1258.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And it was a violation. What is the point of having an agreement if you're in a labor dispute and you've got a labor contract and one side unilaterally abandons the terms of it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1259.14,1268.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The contract is and using your analogy, there are many violations of labor contracts all the time. The contracted solution is not throughout the contract. The solution is to heal the violence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1269.07,1279.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, get them back to the table, but don't look at their violations of the ABM Treaty. Don't look at their violations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1280.11,1284.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Assault 1.0 and then just ignore. They have violations of all these treaties and the very basic violations they are making are in the human rights issues. They are making violations of the Helsinki Treaty, which are fundamental to society. If you if they can't allow their people to immigrate and live as they want and to make a living as they want and have the freedoms that we have in this country, then they are not going to adhere to a treaty to reduce any kind of issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1285.45,1310.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Say, about you, about Gorbachev's response to that is that he's saying that we're trying to do a brain drain, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1311.23,1318.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Which is ridiculous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1318.57,1318.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, and also it's that he he's really so much a part of that whole communist scene when he says that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1319.65,1325.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e If those people were such a drain on the society. Why don't they let them work? If you're a Jew and you applied to leave to go to Israel or the United States or someplace else, you're out of work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1325.86,1334.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that also many, many segments of the Christian population have fundamentalism in Russia who are not allowed to work, and they're sent to one of the outpost in Russia they've gotten rid of. Now, if he's interested in bringing the people home and he doesn't want to drain Russia, why did he bring the troops home from Afghanistan? He is duplicitous in his attitude with us. He is just duplicitous in the treaty. And the treaty is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1336.41,1356.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Part of the reason why he didn't do anything with Afghanistan or any of the other things that we think are important to do is because he is fighting such a battle right at home. And that's why they're saying now is the time for him to get something done here, that he can take back and wave at them and say we are moving forward in our relations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1356.33,1370.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e One is also the same time he was waving something at us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1371.03,1373.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What can you say about the first lady? The first lady of the Soviet Union? What do you think of Raisa?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1374.03,1377.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e This was a cat fight extraordinaire on the international level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1378.32,1381.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They don't like each other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1382.43,1383.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, but it's high stakes politics because they're using Raisa for political purposes. She's. She's eminently usable in that regard. Nancy is as well. And so there was a turf struggle. It got nasty. I think Nancy's one round to round three is yet to be seen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542#t=1384.67,1399.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118887/file/223542/transcript/62948/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We will be back in just a minute. All right. Let's quickly jump into our 12th mailbag and come up with a few letters. Here's one from PR Williams of Baltimore. Why can't the Reverend St George Cross address the issue at hand? Huh? There is a difference between abortion and child abuse. Just because he is a man of the cloth does not make his word gospel. And here is a letter from E Allen of Owings Mills, Maryland, who writes, It's obvious that President Reagan's much criticized military spending is paying off now that the Soviets can hardly afford to feed their own people. Mr. Gorbachev is forced to sit down and talk world peace and arms control. We'd like to thank you for your letters. Do you have any comments about these folks at the table tonight or about the subjects that we discuss? Here's the address. Square off W Jay Z, TV, Television, Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. Two 1 to 1 one. Be sure to get those letters in the mail so we can read them on the air next Saturday night. Stay tuned now for the lotto. Good luck to all of you. Hope you won the million, George and the laughs tomorrow. Same here. 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