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Welcome to square off. Monday, August 31st. The Baltimore City schools all set to open before Labor Day this year. The rest of the schools opening up a little bit later, back to school. And there are a lot of issues in the news tonight about schools. And we begin by asking those of you at home and those of you on our panel, what do you think is the most pressing issue facing our schools today?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=70.21,90.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Arnold Weener the inability to deliver students who can meet basic life skills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=90.49,95.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Greta Van Susteren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=96.37,96.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Money. They're not paying teachers enough money, so teachers are leaving the profession. At least the good ones are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=97.6,101.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Reverend St George Cross.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=102.19,103.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe we ought to have discipline in our schools. It's time for us to apply the Board of Education to the seat of knowledge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=104.14,110.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And mostly the underlying problems of lack of achievement on the part of youngsters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=111.61,115.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll take a look at schools and other subjects in the news tonight as we swell. Good evening, everyone. Saturday night at 730, I am Richard Sher. And this is the last, I guess you could say. This is really the last off of the summer, right? 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Ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome Greta Van Susteren? Greta is a practicing attorney. She does a lot of trial work. She's an adjunct professor of law at the Georgetown Law Center, and she teaches advanced evidence. So what evidence? 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The teaching isn't good because there aren't good teachers. Good teachers are leaving because they aren't getting paid enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=163.91,175.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And all of it rises and falls on discipline. 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We got a number of youngsters who have attended Christian schools coming back into the public schools because their parents are greatly disappointed at the lack of the quality of instruction in Christian schools. Christian schools concentrate too much on religion and not enough on the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=218.75,238.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I won't say that, but I don't. I happens to go to a Christian school. She is taking Spanish and French. 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She has excellent. Well, but by.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=253.64,256.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Taking for granted. But she came from Ireland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=256.519,258.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But by and large, Christian cannot compare in terms of performance with the public school sector. But let me say, everyone is saying that what we need in education is not more money and the quality will improve. Now, money alone is not the answer. Amen. There are several things that have to take place. 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And third, administrators must have the courage to do what's necessary to see that youngsters get an education. Now, where the youngsters get the motivation, one, they get the motivation from home. If a parent has a value for an education, he transmits, Add value to the youngster and to many of our parents in particularly in our inner city schools, do not have that value for education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=290.46,314.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But if you don't have a good, experienced teacher who can keep a classroom in order, the classroom is not going to be run very well and no one's going to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=315.53,322.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=322.71,322.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Teachers and experience teach this system because they're not getting paid, not where they're getting pushed up and administered.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=324.53,329.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Merely by having to pay more money for a teacher does not mean necessarily that you're going to improve the quality of teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=330.92,337.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But if it gets merit pay, why not pay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=337.88,340.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not opposed to the money, but what we need to do is take a look at the education of prospective teachers. 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I am saying that unless there is discipline in the schools, unless students know that the teachers are not their friends and they don't call them by their first names and they start respecting them and they stop coming to church where.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=354.38,373.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The kids talk by the first name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=373.37,375.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There are some places where the teachers are called by their first names, by the by the students, maybe in Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=375.56,381.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Schools, but not enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=381.5,382.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I have I have known it and I've seen it where they have done that and I've seen teachers who who, who who should in some way, I think, earn the respect for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=383.45,396.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Some great time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=396.29,396.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But what kind of discipline are you talking about? About paddling? Are you talking about orderliness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=397.1,400.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And paddling is one part of it. And paddling should be done only in extreme cases.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=400.91,405.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Put that aside for one minute. There's a marvelous private schools that turn out fantastic, fantastic graduates where where the teachers are called by the first names. But it seems to me, boys, that what you what you addressed is the core of it. And in an ideal world, the parents would be interested. And in an ideal world the kids would be enthused. But assume as a given that you have children of parents who themselves are not educated, who don't understand the value of education, don't have a family structure, and those kids are then injected into the school system and assume that that's the real issue that the school system has to deal with. And what can the system do with those? 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All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=466.88,467.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, let's try to get into it. Yes. Let her speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=468.68,471.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The administrators have got to get that kind of student out of the school. We've got to get the student with a drug pusher guy, Get the student who's got the gun out of the school. That is the problem for the administration. But in terms of the actual education in the classroom, you need good teachers who interest the students. You need very qualified teachers. And those qualified teachers are leaving and they're going into administration because they're not getting paid enough. You need something to keep them there. And one of the good ways to keep them there is merit pay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=471.77,497.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that a teacher be a role model. If a teacher is going to be the role model, can he be as effective? If he if he has to interact with 40 students, can he be a lot more effective if he can, if he can only work with 20? Now, that is that is a fallacy. There has been no study. There was a correlation between class size and performance. Class size has nothing to do with performance. It may help the teachers morale, but it's not. It has nothing to do with performance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=497.64,526.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, but I just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=527.45,528.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But I want to leave it to the candidates. May I finish? May I finish, Mayor?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=528.6,532.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Objectives is to cut down. And so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=534.8,537.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would. I would. I would. I would rather see rather than reducing class size spending that money on giving teachers better training, spending that money on additional additional resources, for example, in the city schools. The average daily attendance is in the neighborhood of 85%. That means on any given day, 50% of those youngsters are out of class. Now, we do not in actuality have class sizes of 40 and 50 because we have about 15% of those youngsters out every day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=537.95,568.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e May I ask you guys and and you got I want to move on for just a second. The fact that Maryland has the fourth most segregated school system in the United States, is that an issue? Is that important to you? Do you think it affects the quality of education?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=569.21,580.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's not important in terms of affecting the quality of education at all. We've been focusing too much on integration and not enough on quality schools.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=581.36,590.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The fact that the schools are segregated is because most of our neighborhoods are still segregated. It's nice to talk about neighborhoods and talk about Little Italy. Well, there aren't that many black people from Italy. So therefore that many black people won't be living around Little Italy or in certain neighborhoods. But I believe that going to school and putting black kids and white kids together doesn't make them get a better education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=591.41,616.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What makes a better education is having better teachers and having better resources. And that's where the money should be spent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=617.3,622.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I think in many instances, integration led to the decline in the quality of education. And one way, for example, in the past, before integration, there were neighborhood schools and people were attached to these neighborhood schools, and you had greater participation on the part of a total community in that neighborhood school. When we had integration, we had to have large attendance zones and Youngstown, where youngsters were brought in from other neighborhoods to go to a particular school. And I think that affected the quality of education because we didn't get the involvement of that immediate community. Are both of you saying that there that in your judgment, there is no real educational value in taking youngsters, people in elementary school and having them learn to interact with people of different backgrounds and people of different races? There's there's a great value in that. And if it's possible, yes, but I'm saying that integration alone is not going to improve the quality of education and in many instances, particularly in the city, and that will decline. For example, a school like Douglas, which was a totally black school when I integrated, what did they do? They took the best teachers from Douglas and the best schools and the best students, and that affected the school that that produced some of the greatest leaders that black leaders of particular that Baltimore's ever known. So would you suggest then, that we disregard this recently published statistic that said that Baltimore was such a I don't say I don't see any need to get extremely excited or disturbed about. It's a fact of life. And that is created not so much in terms of policy, but by living pattern.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=623.0,723.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Before we move on to our research, what about paneling?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=723.77,725.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You talk headlines in which.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=726.25,727.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Is legal in certain jurisdictions to it now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=728.26,730.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That is absolutely insane to let a teacher inflict corporal punishment upon a student. It's not a teacher's job. A teacher's job is to teach. If there's a problem student, the student should be taken out of the classroom. But no, no. Teachers should be committing assault and battery on a child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=730.72,742.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, there's a certain part of the Bible that says spare the rod and you spoil the child. And we have seen our children get more and more and more spoiled as we have taken paddling not only out of the schools but out of the home. I see nothing wrong with paddling. I was given corporal punishment, not with a paddle, with a cane, some belt. It didn't do me any harm. I make a living. I pay a lot of taxes. I have a good job. I got married to the same woman for 21 years. This week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=743.14,777.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=780.78,781.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Her to take what came out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=782.2,783.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=783.76,783.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But. But. But. I really believe that paddling. There's nothing wrong with paddling. If it is. If it is done in the right way. If it is done at the time when something wrong is saying said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=784.75,797.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You're going to monitor it. First of all, who's going to monitor it? You just go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=797.59,800.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e With that is going to be somebody like Boyce Mosley, who will be the principal, who will choose somebody who has a good temperament, who knows what the guidelines are, and who will do the paddling for the whole school. Well, I was in school when I was in school. Nobody paddled, but the headmaster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=800.9,819.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Probably didn't even have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=820.99,821.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e A.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=822.07,822.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Say. St George, I think you're wrong. Discipline is for the home, for the parents. If there's a problem, you get the kid out of the classroom. You don't humiliate a kid and you don't subject them to a set. Nobody is to monitor it and you are going to get sued.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=822.88,837.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Nobody paddles anybody in front of the class. You take it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=837.79,841.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Private.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=842.08,842.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e So that yes, you do it in private.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=842.53,843.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So that the kid has no recourse against it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=844.27,846.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, you take that child into the headmaster's office or the disciplinarians office, and as they say, you apply the Board of Education to the seat of knowledge. And let me tell you this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=846.46,857.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You do see your students in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=857.74,859.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Secrecy. That's because not only did I know that when I got a spanking, I also had a letter to carry by my parents and I got a lot of spanking when I got home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=860.08,869.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I will be back in July.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=869.76,870.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In July.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=873.83,874.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e How many kids?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=878.13,878.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We're talking now about animal research. And last weekend, you know, 23 infected cats, cats infected with parasites stolen from an agricultural research facility in Beltsville, Maryland. The animal rights group calling itself the Band of Mercy, is claiming responsibility. These infected cats can transmit all kinds of diseases that are dangerous to people with lower resistance, especially people who might be carrying the AIDS virus. What do you think about about this group that steals these animals? The whole issue about animal research.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=987.35,1015.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They should be charged with bringing these dangerous cats out and turning them on society. Here they were locked up in the safety of the research institute. And I'd say this I prefer for them to do research on cats and do them on boys, mostly because I believe that we have to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1016.32,1035.609"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A voice most.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1036.21,1036.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1037.17,1037.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Known as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1038.13,1039.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e As that earwax that I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1042.329,1043.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Prefer. I think somebody something they have to use some sort of a trial on animals if they are trained. If they are done. If it's done in a humane way, I can't see where.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1043.38,1054.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There are two problems here. Number one is that these people did it, broke the law. They committed the crime of burglary. They shouldn't have done it. The second issue is whether there should be this experimentation on animals and there are legitimate reasons to do it in cases of medical necessity. We don't need animal experimentation for cosmetics. They don't have to torture. And we'll see if certain cosmetics are going to hurt humans. We don't need cosmetics or other products that we don't need. 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They do, do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1083.7,1085.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do, do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1085.73,1086.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I've never seen a cat check for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1086.88,1089.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You guys have to like tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1090.78,1091.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You have to have animal research. And you know, you can find people way out on the fringe of any issue. And these people who went around kidnaping or cat napping, if you pardon the pun, those people are are just part of a particular lunatic fringe. I happen to agree with you. The research on animals is necessary, and I certainly agree with your point. It has to be a central research research that's going to be necessary for saving lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1093.18,1121.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. I want to ask you now before we leave about the lottery later, This has become a very famous case. This is Wanda Denise Freeman. She bought enough lottery tickets, you might recall, if you've heard about this story, she ended up winning $75,000 and apparently decided to wait the 180 days until she collected her money because she apparently had a specific purpose in mind for that one, for that $75,000 problem is she apparently I keep using those words because I'm not I don't know exactly what happened, but she miscalculated. Running on the 181st day. And the lottery agency says she's not going to get her money because the rules are the rules. The money goes into the pot of unclaimed money. She's suing the state, claiming the state unjustly enriched itself at her expense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1122.28,1166.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To get a 75 that has you know, the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1167.73,1170.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e State has been unjustly enriching itself by ripping off poor people with the lotto and the lottery and all of these various things. They ripped off 100,000 people to pay her the 75,000. So they're just going to keep on and rip her off to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1171.15,1186.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What's your point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1187.23,1187.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm saying, oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1188.19,1188.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I tell you, I agree with it. And that is the lottery benefits itself primarily by getting money from poor, uneducated, unsophisticated people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1188.91,1199.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I, I buy tickets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1199.71,1201.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Any sarcastic hearted person who had won that money would want to get it in that in his or her hands immediately and let it start working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1202.53,1208.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But what he's saying is that he's a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1209.36,1210.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Woman who was unsophisticated. She she miscalculated by one day. And it's so unfair advantage. You play by the rules, you'll win by the rules. You lose by the rules. Those are the rules. You know the rules. So therefore, she loses the basis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1210.69,1224.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To the state should quit being so cheap and pay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1225.42,1228.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Her the ticket. Should say whether it's lottery days or calendar days or wet days or days when they have the lottery. And I think that they're just ripping off another person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1228.33,1239.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Like a lawyer. So what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1240.31,1241.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e About the fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1241.53,1241.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That he's a great lawyer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1242.07,1242.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The technicalities that that you get involved in in law and in terms I know a couple of years ago, a guy got off from a murder conviction because something that was supposed to come in in 24 hours came in in 24 hours and 12 minutes. What about these these slight periods that that can make the difference in a case?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1243.39,1261.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Tech when when legal rights turn on on unreasonable technicalities, no one wins. Now, the situation you're talking about is not the way you described it. It's an altogether different issue. This is real. Come on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1261.99,1278.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It was the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1278.91,1279.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1280.38,1280.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Was not. You know, the don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1280.47,1281.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't rely on technicalities in your legal practice. Now we rely on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1281.55,1285.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you one thing. If I ever get into trouble, I want I'll win over my life. But I think that they they are trying to rip this woman off and they should give her her money because they robbed the other people to give it to her boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1289.02,1304.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, she she doesn't go by the rules. Now, I suppose the lottery wouldn't go by the rule. You would be upset if that's the rule. And she didn't go by the rule that she loses the money. Yeah, but what if they had to pay the money? The problem is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1305.99,1322.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The rule isn't clear. If you look at the back of these lottery tickets, it's a little little print. And it also doesn't say how they're going to calculate the 180. So they're counting Christmas and counting Easter. 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Maybe she'll give it to some church or boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1338.06,1343.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What's the catch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1345.38,1345.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, well, I don't know, but I just hope that they do what is right by her. I'd hate to see Manasseh for Governor Schafer and the Lottery Commission taking advantage of a poor woman who they ripped off once before by making her buy the tickets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1346.46,1362.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And it seems to me the lottery gets a lot by that. The lottery gets a lot of value when when it shows itself to be humane. Yeah. And and to be interested. Well, let's be real humane that if they would just give the people the winning lottery person, the winning lottery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1362.9,1377.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The only thing we don't know is how many other people came in a day or two or three late and how much money it could cost the state if they set a precedent by paying this woman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1378.26,1386.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But there are hundreds and thousands of people who are sitting right now with their lottery tickets in their little hot hand, waiting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1387.5,1394.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e For the lotto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1394.4,1394.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Waiting for the lotto pool, and they do not want to be ripped off by their state to which they pay their taxes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1395.27,1401.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62843/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. We'll have a few letters for you. Then the lotto pull. Saint George will check his ticket. I responding to our discussion on abortion, Teresa Knox of Baltimore writes, When I read and hear what happens to these illegitimate babies after they are born, I wonder if not being born wouldn't be more humane. On the same subject, Karen Anne of Baltimore comments. It is true that some will look upon abortion as immoral. However, it is the woman's choice. 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Square off WJC TD Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. Two one, two, one one. We'll be happy to read your letters on the air. Like to remind you that the WJC labor of Love Blood Drive will continue through Monday. We love you to donate. Call 4679905. Rather good to have you on the panel. Stay tuned now for Saint George and his lotto will be back on Saturday night at 730. 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Welcome to square off. Monday, August 31st. The Baltimore City schools all set to open before Labor Day this year. The rest of the schools opening up a little bit later, back to school. And there are a lot of issues in the news tonight about schools. And we begin by asking those of you at home and those of you on our panel, what do you think is the most pressing issue facing our schools today?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=70.21,90.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Arnold Weener the inability to deliver students who can meet basic life skills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=90.49,95.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Greta Van Susteren.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=96.37,96.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Money. They're not paying teachers enough money, so teachers are leaving the profession. At least the good ones are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=97.6,101.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Reverend St George Cross.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=102.19,103.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe we ought to have discipline in our schools. It's time for us to apply the Board of Education to the seat of knowledge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=104.14,110.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And mostly the underlying problems of lack of achievement on the part of youngsters.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=111.61,115.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll take a look at schools and other subjects in the news tonight as we swell. Good evening, everyone. Saturday night at 730, I am Richard Sher. And this is the last, I guess you could say. This is really the last off of the summer, right? Because it's already the end of the month.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=116.02,139.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Labor Day is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=140.18,140.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Coming. Here's Arnold without glasses. Everyone looks good. I want to welcome our newest panelist. Ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome Greta Van Susteren? Greta is a practicing attorney. She does a lot of trial work. She's an adjunct professor of law at the Georgetown Law Center, and she teaches advanced evidence. So what evidence? 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The teaching isn't good because there aren't good teachers. Good teachers are leaving because they aren't getting paid enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=163.91,175.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And all of it rises and falls on discipline. 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And and when you have the the awful situation where the kids who come from the inner city and whose only ticket out is a decent education are denied that I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=185.69,205.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Know the fastest I know the fastest growing school system is the Christian school system and then the Christian schools and the parochial schools, They don't pay the money that they pay and the students turn out better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=205.55,218.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no, no. 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But let me say, everyone is saying that what we need in education is not more money and the quality will improve. Now, money alone is not the answer. Amen. There are several things that have to take place. 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And third, administrators must have the courage to do what's necessary to see that youngsters get an education. Now, where the youngsters get the motivation, one, they get the motivation from home. If a parent has a value for an education, he transmits, Add value to the youngster and to many of our parents in particularly in our inner city schools, do not have that value for education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=290.46,314.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But if you don't have a good, experienced teacher who can keep a classroom in order, the classroom is not going to be run very well and no one's going to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=315.53,322.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Let.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=322.71,322.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Teachers and experience teach this system because they're not getting paid, not where they're getting pushed up and administered.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=324.53,329.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Merely by having to pay more money for a teacher does not mean necessarily that you're going to improve the quality of teaching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=330.92,337.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But if it gets merit pay, why not pay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=337.88,340.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not opposed to the money, but what we need to do is take a look at the education of prospective teachers. In the past, teachers were trained as opposed to be educated. We need educated people in the classroom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=340.73,353.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Michael Boyce Why are you staying away from discipline? I am saying that unless there is discipline in the schools, unless students know that the teachers are not their friends and they don't call them by their first names and they start respecting them and they stop coming to church where.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=354.38,373.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The kids talk by the first name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=373.37,375.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e There are some places where the teachers are called by their first names, by the by the students, maybe in Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=375.56,381.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Schools, but not enough.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=381.5,382.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I have I have known it and I've seen it where they have done that and I've seen teachers who who, who who should in some way, I think, earn the respect for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=383.45,396.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Some great time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=396.29,396.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But what kind of discipline are you talking about? About paddling? Are you talking about orderliness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=397.1,400.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And paddling is one part of it. And paddling should be done only in extreme cases.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=400.91,405.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Put that aside for one minute. There's a marvelous private schools that turn out fantastic, fantastic graduates where where the teachers are called by the first names. But it seems to me, boys, that what you what you addressed is the core of it. And in an ideal world, the parents would be interested. And in an ideal world the kids would be enthused. But assume as a given that you have children of parents who themselves are not educated, who don't understand the value of education, don't have a family structure, and those kids are then injected into the school system and assume that that's the real issue that the school system has to deal with. And what can the system do with those? And that's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=407.64,451.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What happens, that you come to school and you have to fight by the drug pushers and you have to worry about whether the guy in the locker next to you has a gun and you have to worry about whether somebody is going to beat you up before you get out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=452.9,466.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Of school. All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=466.88,467.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, let's try to get into it. Yes. Let her speak.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=468.68,471.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The administrators have got to get that kind of student out of the school. We've got to get the student with a drug pusher guy, Get the student who's got the gun out of the school. That is the problem for the administration. But in terms of the actual education in the classroom, you need good teachers who interest the students. You need very qualified teachers. And those qualified teachers are leaving and they're going into administration because they're not getting paid enough. You need something to keep them there. And one of the good ways to keep them there is merit pay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=471.77,497.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that a teacher be a role model. If a teacher is going to be the role model, can he be as effective? If he if he has to interact with 40 students, can he be a lot more effective if he can, if he can only work with 20? Now, that is that is a fallacy. There has been no study. There was a correlation between class size and performance. Class size has nothing to do with performance. It may help the teachers morale, but it's not. It has nothing to do with performance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=497.64,526.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, but I just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=527.45,528.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But I want to leave it to the candidates. May I finish? May I finish, Mayor?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=528.6,532.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Objectives is to cut down. And so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=534.8,537.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would. I would. I would. I would rather see rather than reducing class size spending that money on giving teachers better training, spending that money on additional additional resources, for example, in the city schools. The average daily attendance is in the neighborhood of 85%. That means on any given day, 50% of those youngsters are out of class. Now, we do not in actuality have class sizes of 40 and 50 because we have about 15% of those youngsters out every day.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=537.95,568.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e May I ask you guys and and you got I want to move on for just a second. The fact that Maryland has the fourth most segregated school system in the United States, is that an issue? Is that important to you? Do you think it affects the quality of education?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=569.21,580.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's not important in terms of affecting the quality of education at all. We've been focusing too much on integration and not enough on quality schools.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=581.36,590.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e The fact that the schools are segregated is because most of our neighborhoods are still segregated. It's nice to talk about neighborhoods and talk about Little Italy. Well, there aren't that many black people from Italy. So therefore that many black people won't be living around Little Italy or in certain neighborhoods. But I believe that going to school and putting black kids and white kids together doesn't make them get a better education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=591.41,616.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What makes a better education is having better teachers and having better resources. And that's where the money should be spent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=617.3,622.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I think in many instances, integration led to the decline in the quality of education. And one way, for example, in the past, before integration, there were neighborhood schools and people were attached to these neighborhood schools, and you had greater participation on the part of a total community in that neighborhood school. When we had integration, we had to have large attendance zones and Youngstown, where youngsters were brought in from other neighborhoods to go to a particular school. And I think that affected the quality of education because we didn't get the involvement of that immediate community. Are both of you saying that there that in your judgment, there is no real educational value in taking youngsters, people in elementary school and having them learn to interact with people of different backgrounds and people of different races? There's there's a great value in that. And if it's possible, yes, but I'm saying that integration alone is not going to improve the quality of education and in many instances, particularly in the city, and that will decline. For example, a school like Douglas, which was a totally black school when I integrated, what did they do? They took the best teachers from Douglas and the best schools and the best students, and that affected the school that that produced some of the greatest leaders that black leaders of particular that Baltimore's ever known. So would you suggest then, that we disregard this recently published statistic that said that Baltimore was such a I don't say I don't see any need to get extremely excited or disturbed about. It's a fact of life. And that is created not so much in terms of policy, but by living pattern.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=623.0,723.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Before we move on to our research, what about paneling?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=723.77,725.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You talk headlines in which.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=726.25,727.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Is legal in certain jurisdictions to it now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=728.26,730.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That is absolutely insane to let a teacher inflict corporal punishment upon a student. It's not a teacher's job. A teacher's job is to teach. If there's a problem student, the student should be taken out of the classroom. But no, no. Teachers should be committing assault and battery on a child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=730.72,742.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, there's a certain part of the Bible that says spare the rod and you spoil the child. And we have seen our children get more and more and more spoiled as we have taken paddling not only out of the schools but out of the home. I see nothing wrong with paddling. I was given corporal punishment, not with a paddle, with a cane, some belt. It didn't do me any harm. I make a living. I pay a lot of taxes. I have a good job. I got married to the same woman for 21 years. This week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=743.14,777.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I want.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=780.78,781.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Her to take what came out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=782.2,783.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=783.76,783.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But. But. But. I really believe that paddling. There's nothing wrong with paddling. If it is. If it is done in the right way. If it is done at the time when something wrong is saying said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=784.75,797.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You're going to monitor it. First of all, who's going to monitor it? You just go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=797.59,800.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e With that is going to be somebody like Boyce Mosley, who will be the principal, who will choose somebody who has a good temperament, who knows what the guidelines are, and who will do the paddling for the whole school. Well, I was in school when I was in school. Nobody paddled, but the headmaster.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=800.9,819.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Probably didn't even have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=820.99,821.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e A.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=822.07,822.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Say. St George, I think you're wrong. Discipline is for the home, for the parents. If there's a problem, you get the kid out of the classroom. You don't humiliate a kid and you don't subject them to a set. Nobody is to monitor it and you are going to get sued.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=822.88,837.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Nobody paddles anybody in front of the class. You take it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=837.79,841.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Private.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=842.08,842.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e So that yes, you do it in private.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=842.53,843.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So that the kid has no recourse against it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=844.27,846.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, you take that child into the headmaster's office or the disciplinarians office, and as they say, you apply the Board of Education to the seat of knowledge. And let me tell you this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=846.46,857.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You do see your students in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=857.74,859.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Secrecy. That's because not only did I know that when I got a spanking, I also had a letter to carry by my parents and I got a lot of spanking when I got home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=860.08,869.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I will be back in July.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=869.76,870.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e In July.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=873.83,874.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e How many kids?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=878.13,878.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We're talking now about animal research. And last weekend, you know, 23 infected cats, cats infected with parasites stolen from an agricultural research facility in Beltsville, Maryland. The animal rights group calling itself the Band of Mercy, is claiming responsibility. These infected cats can transmit all kinds of diseases that are dangerous to people with lower resistance, especially people who might be carrying the AIDS virus. What do you think about about this group that steals these animals? The whole issue about animal research.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=987.35,1015.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They should be charged with bringing these dangerous cats out and turning them on society. Here they were locked up in the safety of the research institute. And I'd say this I prefer for them to do research on cats and do them on boys, mostly because I believe that we have to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1016.32,1035.609"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e A voice most.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1036.21,1036.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1037.17,1037.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Known as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1038.13,1039.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e As that earwax that I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1042.329,1043.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Prefer. I think somebody something they have to use some sort of a trial on animals if they are trained. If they are done. If it's done in a humane way, I can't see where.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1043.38,1054.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There are two problems here. Number one is that these people did it, broke the law. They committed the crime of burglary. They shouldn't have done it. The second issue is whether there should be this experimentation on animals and there are legitimate reasons to do it in cases of medical necessity. We don't need animal experimentation for cosmetics. They don't have to torture. And we'll see if certain cosmetics are going to hurt humans. We don't need cosmetics or other products that we don't need. 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They do, do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1083.7,1085.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do, do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1085.73,1086.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I've never seen a cat check for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1086.88,1089.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You guys have to like tonight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1090.78,1091.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You have to have animal research. And you know, you can find people way out on the fringe of any issue. And these people who went around kidnaping or cat napping, if you pardon the pun, those people are are just part of a particular lunatic fringe. I happen to agree with you. The research on animals is necessary, and I certainly agree with your point. It has to be a central research research that's going to be necessary for saving lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1093.18,1121.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. I want to ask you now before we leave about the lottery later, This has become a very famous case. This is Wanda Denise Freeman. She bought enough lottery tickets, you might recall, if you've heard about this story, she ended up winning $75,000 and apparently decided to wait the 180 days until she collected her money because she apparently had a specific purpose in mind for that one, for that $75,000 problem is she apparently I keep using those words because I'm not I don't know exactly what happened, but she miscalculated. Running on the 181st day. And the lottery agency says she's not going to get her money because the rules are the rules. The money goes into the pot of unclaimed money. She's suing the state, claiming the state unjustly enriched itself at her expense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1122.28,1166.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To get a 75 that has you know, the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1167.73,1170.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e State has been unjustly enriching itself by ripping off poor people with the lotto and the lottery and all of these various things. They ripped off 100,000 people to pay her the 75,000. So they're just going to keep on and rip her off to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1171.15,1186.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What's your point?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1187.23,1187.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm saying, oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1188.19,1188.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I tell you, I agree with it. And that is the lottery benefits itself primarily by getting money from poor, uneducated, unsophisticated people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1188.91,1199.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I, I buy tickets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1199.71,1201.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Any sarcastic hearted person who had won that money would want to get it in that in his or her hands immediately and let it start working.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1202.53,1208.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But what he's saying is that he's a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1209.36,1210.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Woman who was unsophisticated. She she miscalculated by one day. And it's so unfair advantage. You play by the rules, you'll win by the rules. You lose by the rules. Those are the rules. You know the rules. So therefore, she loses the basis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1210.69,1224.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e To the state should quit being so cheap and pay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1225.42,1228.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Her the ticket. Should say whether it's lottery days or calendar days or wet days or days when they have the lottery. And I think that they're just ripping off another person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1228.33,1239.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Like a lawyer. So what.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1240.31,1241.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e About the fact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1241.53,1241.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That he's a great lawyer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1242.07,1242.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The technicalities that that you get involved in in law and in terms I know a couple of years ago, a guy got off from a murder conviction because something that was supposed to come in in 24 hours came in in 24 hours and 12 minutes. What about these these slight periods that that can make the difference in a case?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1243.39,1261.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Tech when when legal rights turn on on unreasonable technicalities, no one wins. Now, the situation you're talking about is not the way you described it. It's an altogether different issue. This is real. Come on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1261.99,1278.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It was the way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1278.91,1279.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1280.38,1280.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Was not. You know, the don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1280.47,1281.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't rely on technicalities in your legal practice. Now we rely on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1281.55,1285.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I'll tell you one thing. If I ever get into trouble, I want I'll win over my life. But I think that they they are trying to rip this woman off and they should give her her money because they robbed the other people to give it to her boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1289.02,1304.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, she she doesn't go by the rules. Now, I suppose the lottery wouldn't go by the rule. You would be upset if that's the rule. And she didn't go by the rule that she loses the money. Yeah, but what if they had to pay the money? The problem is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1305.99,1322.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The rule isn't clear. If you look at the back of these lottery tickets, it's a little little print. And it also doesn't say how they're going to calculate the 180. So they're counting Christmas and counting Easter. If the lottery wants to play that way, they should spell it out specifically in large letters so that everybody knows.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1323.12,1337.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They should give this woman the money. Maybe she'll give it to some church or boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1338.06,1343.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What's the catch?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1345.38,1345.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, well, I don't know, but I just hope that they do what is right by her. I'd hate to see Manasseh for Governor Schafer and the Lottery Commission taking advantage of a poor woman who they ripped off once before by making her buy the tickets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1346.46,1362.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And it seems to me the lottery gets a lot by that. The lottery gets a lot of value when when it shows itself to be humane. Yeah. And and to be interested. Well, let's be real humane that if they would just give the people the winning lottery person, the winning lottery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1362.9,1377.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The only thing we don't know is how many other people came in a day or two or three late and how much money it could cost the state if they set a precedent by paying this woman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1378.26,1386.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e But there are hundreds and thousands of people who are sitting right now with their lottery tickets in their little hot hand, waiting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1387.5,1394.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e For the lotto.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1394.4,1394.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Waiting for the lotto pool, and they do not want to be ripped off by their state to which they pay their taxes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1395.27,1401.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. We'll have a few letters for you. Then the lotto pull. Saint George will check his ticket. I responding to our discussion on abortion, Teresa Knox of Baltimore writes, When I read and hear what happens to these illegitimate babies after they are born, I wonder if not being born wouldn't be more humane. On the same subject, Karen Anne of Baltimore comments. It is true that some will look upon abortion as immoral. However, it is the woman's choice. And if this country is not going to assist the poor by supplying welfare, then I can at least offer the option of abortion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1401.87,1531.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1532.12,1532.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Please write to us in this address. Square off WJC TD Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. Two one, two, one one. We'll be happy to read your letters on the air. Like to remind you that the WJC labor of Love Blood Drive will continue through Monday. We love you to donate. Call 4679905. Rather good to have you on the panel. Stay tuned now for Saint George and his lotto will be back on Saturday night at 730. Once again this week world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007#t=1532.58,1557.03"}]},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118483/file/223007/transcript/62960/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/062/960/original/open-uri20240104-1741762-dczfjc?1704396961","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/062/960/original/open-uri20240104-1741762-dczfjc?1704396961"}]}]}]}