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Testing advocates disagree. They claim it's the employer's responsibility to provide a safe, productive working environment. But what do you think? Tell us Falls City Line, special telephone calls and give us your approval or disapproval of drug testing. What's wrong? Oh, God. You're. You're supposed to stop there, aren't you? You have to stop that in town. I have a circle. Three and ten. I have it on. There's no script. Well, there's no rehearsal today. That's going to be an interesting show. It is. Loyalties, Cheese. It's 12 noon. We're live on City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie Hall. And I'm Betty Bentley. Most of the nation supports the Reagan administration's war on drugs, but hot debate surrounds their proposals, calling for widespread drug testing in the workplace. Resistance has come from unions, members of Congress and others who claim that drug testing violates workers rights and constitutional guarantees. Testing advocates disagree. They claim it's the employer's responsibility to provide a safe, productive working environment. But what do you think? Tell us. Call City Line, special telephone call and give us your approval or disapproval of drug testing in the workplace. September is National Sickle Cell Anemia Awareness Month. I'm t Montero and today on News cup we talk to the national sickle cell anemia poster child. Hi, Harold Anthony here For everyone out there who misses their native African music, I'll be taking you on home with the latest from Wally Battle Group. Also on today's entertainment page, I'll have updates on events happening a little closer to home. Stick around. Joining Jacky in New York for a special guest will help us discuss drug testing in the workplace. And don't forget to call in your vote during city lines Telephone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=18.77,222.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Paul, tell us what you think. Do you agree or disagree with drug testing in the workplace? It's all up next, live on cityline. Good afternoon and welcome to another edition of City Line. We've got a very special show for you this afternoon. We're talking about an issue that's been very much in the news this week and is on the minds of a lot of folks. They're going to test my memory right now and I'm going to try to introduce to you our lineup of guests starting off from left to right. We have Annapolis Mayor Dennis Callahan. Thank you for being here. A pleasure. John Gage, national vice president of the American Federation of Federal Employees. 5050 so far. Okay. Next to Mrs. Stuart Comstock, Day of the American Civil Liberties Union. And last but not least, Mr. Howard, Chip Silverman of the Maryland State Drug Abuse Agency. Gentlemen, thank you for being here. We're going to start right off and put the question to you. Should there be mandatory drug testing in the workplace? Mary Callahan? Yes. Could you do more? Yes. I feel as the mayor of Annapolis, that the administration has an obligation to its citizens to make sure that at least the people involved with public safety are drug free. That's why I specifically in Annapolis for recommending the testing. Matter of fact, ongoing testing, if you will, of fire police. And we would like to include the drivers of public transportation vehicles. When do you anticipate this going into effect in Annapolis? As soon as possible. But I want to make clear right from the outset that there's no way we're going to do this knowingly violating anyone's constitutional rights. We're having meetings on Tuesday, as a matter of fact, with union representatives, department heads and employees themselves to help us formulate the policy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=223.16,359.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"John, from what I've seen so far, the plans were against it. The basic constitutional problems, I think, have to be worked out. But aside from that, this is really opening up a can of worms. The validity of the testing is a real problem. What it can be used for, the lack of rehabilitation and educational emphasis. So at this point, we're against it. Well, we're absolutely opposed to across the board testing in the way it's being talked about in a lot of places, because it does violate the constitutional protection against unreasonable search and seizure. We're opposed to drug abuse, too, and we think we ought to go after it, but not at the expense of our constitutional protection. So we don't want to force all innocent people as well to suffer the indignity of a drug test just to prove that they're clean. Chip. Well, I find myself in the middle of the road here. We've been testing a certain segment of our patients or clients in the drug abuse treatment field for many years. But my concerns are most of what they're doing with the testing accuracy, confidentiality. And they are. One of the basic lines is funding, where a lot of the money's coming from. I can sense the frustration and I appreciate the frustration being in this field a long time. What presidential commissions and the public at large and government agencies in all are coming to grips with right now. But it's how far extreme you go to the right and to the left, to the testing that concerns me. Like, what is going to happen? Just to suppose that your drug testing program goes into effect. What's going to happen to those who test positive? Well, I can't tell you that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=360.16,458.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But let me tell you what my recommendations would be. And I haven't been in it 17 years, but I do happen to have a medical technologies background. I was started the Merrill Medical Lab is probably the most successful and well known on the East Coast. I do have some background. There are things such as false positives. I am going to recommend that the first positive does nothing but indicate monitoring and a retesting. Then that individual comes in and the physician goes, What kind of medication or you want? Because that of course can affect the drug test. And if in fact that second specimen test positive after the screening has been properly done, and that's verified by consulting laboratories literally around the country, not just our facility, then I'm recommending a rehabilitation program. Eventually, that individual hopefully works their way back into the workplace with monitoring if they're tested positive. That's when I say, my friend, it's time to seek employment elsewhere. What are the possibilities of abuse, though? Well, I can give you a few examples. This has been done in the Defense Department now since the spring, and the validity of the testing has just been worse than anyone could imagine. Poppy Seeds Contact Mulan in the skin of black people have shown up on positive testing, and the problem in the federal government is there's not a back up mechanism for the rehabilitation. There's not even coverage at this point and in employees health benefits to cover rehabilitation services. So I think that the that it really is the cart before the horse to jump into mandatory testing without these other other programs. So that's an interesting question. I mean, who's going to pay for this? Good question. Where is the money going to come from? You know, you're only talking about $15 per urinalysis, as I understand it right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=458.26,562.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But how many workers are we talking in Annapolis? We're talking about approximately 200 and. 25, but also 225. Yes. One of the fire police and bus drivers. Is that the cheap test? The initial cut test is notoriously inaccurate. And actually the manufacturers of the test provide information to users saying this will come up with a significant number of false positives or false negatives. You have to second check it. So what happens is your people take this test, which is inaccurate. It has to be the sample then has to be taken to a second test. And between the time it goes to the second test, the person's got some kind of black mark on their record. And a lot of innocent people are around saying, Hey, I didn't do anything, and now they've got to go even further to prove why. Why the black mark on the record? How did the black market there? Because they have tested positive somehow. They've got they've got to now go with that indicated on their record. I mean, you're taking for granted that it's going to be part of the record. And what I'm taking for granted is that the testers are going to know that the person came up positive. There's going to be an assumption that somewhere down the line or some testers are going to be thinking, well, they just might. We need to keep a more careful eye on this person because they came up positive. Even if it turns out to be negative in the end run, they came up positive before and we need to check into that. Okay. We're going to take a break right now and come back to some of these issues. But first, we want to make our audience at home aware of a special telephone poll that we're going to be conducting throughout today's show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=563.23,644.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The question is, should there be mandatory drug testing in the workplace? Now, if you want to agree with that statement, that is to vote yes, you need to call one 900 7202660. If you wish to say no, you want to dial one 900 7202666. The call will cost you $0.50. So start registering your votes now. We'll be taking those calls throughout the course of today's show and announcing the results at the end. Please stay with us. We'll be back in just a minute. Now make sure people know that one 1313 is too young to care. That's one of the reasons I didn't do it. So you get the phone numbers out first and then make it clear. I mean. You guys are so. Okay, good. First, let's have the first person. You understand about right here. And don't think that I'm ignoring you would have to do a few things before I get your question. Welcome back to City Line. Today, we're talking about drug testing in the workplace. And I want to once again remind you folks at home that throughout the course of today's show, we're conducting a phone poll. That is, if you want to call in and register your vote to the question, should there be mandatory drug testing in the workplace? You need to call one of two numbers, either one 970 202660. If you want to vote yes or one 900 7202666, if you want to vote no, that call will cost you $0.50 for a free call. That is to take part in today's and today's show. Simply dialing in our regular number 481 1313. To join in the discussion right here right now, I'd like to have someone from the studio audience try to express some of the public's concern over this issue and have her direct question to our panel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=644.93,830.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hi, I'm Jenny Carter. I'd like to first commend you on your topic today because it's truly a critical issue these days. My question is, if an employee absolutely refuses to be tested, what recourse does then the employer have either one of the guests? Interesting point. I'd like to throw it out. I mean, here in the state, for instance, if you refuse to take a breathalyzer test, if you stop by the police, there are certain ramifications. Is that going to happen with drug testing? Oh, it's happened so far. I think some air traffic controller cases that they were the ones who refused to take the test were reassigned or let go. Okay. Mayor Callahan, we have no program per se. So it would be, I think, inappropriate for me to answer this question. I can say that if they were, the initial question came up because of probable cause or they were suspect, then I believe you're in a different area. But the attorney could probably answer that better than I. Stuart, I'm not an attorney. I point that out. I don't want to be either of the what's happening up at Aberdeen, for instance, where they have a civilian drug testing program. A lot of the employees didn't want to take the test, but they were told, you take it or you're out of here. And so what they did was a lot of them wrote across their I took this test in voluntarily. The their employers came back to them and said, you took it voluntarily and I'll sign that form again. And they're having to do that. And this is another case that's going to go to litigation in a private employer case. There's very little that an employee can do. The employer can fire someone, and there's no constitutional protection in that case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=831.67,926.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. We are asking our home audience to call us and we have a call now waiting. Let's go to that caller, your live on City Line. Yes, I'd like to know that the executive level is going to be tested also or this just subordinates. And this drug, is alcohol also considered work if the employee's going to be tested for alcohol use also? Very good questions. Thank you. Okay, let's throw that out. The the the tests that people that are being looked at now are not for alcohol as well as I understand that they're just for other illicit drugs in terms of people all up the line being tested. That's a good question. I don't know that that's been resolved everywhere. Well, let me say that I certainly would volunteer to take the test, and I'm sure our entire staff would take the test. But we're not recommending that everyone take the test. Let me add let me just ask, how much of this is really a red herring to to give the illusion of dealing with the drug problem when we're not talking about the source of the problem and we're not talking about things that go on all down the line from Turkey to America, from Mexico to America to the streets of anyone to tell you how much is a red herring. Far as Annapolis is concerned, the only segment of people that our administration can address is within a literal boundary line to the city of Annapolis. I personally feel this has to the overall solution, which is most probably 25 years from now, begins at elementary school. Right then it's an educational process. However, we have an obligation to our taxpayers and our citizens to make sure the guy transporting them around and that bus is drug free.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=927.1,1024.839"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you have an emergency vehicle operator, respond to an emergency at your home working on your husband or your child, I would think you would prefer them to be drug free. Let's hear from Chevy. We haven't heard from you in a while. Well, you know, I think that the frustration over people in sensitive positions, air traffic controllers, although you said they may not want to be tested or some of them felt it was wrong and so forth, if you're off in a plane, I think you would prefer to know or feel pretty secure that that person was not involved in any kind of drugs just because of disorientation, antisocial behavior, other problems, impaired judgment. This takes place when you're talking about the health, safety, welfare and defense of the country. Again, I think it's a case of how we go about getting involved in the drug testing. And I think we've just thrown ourselves into this more as a stopgap. Measure right now from a voluntary standpoint, I don't think it is effective that the president and his cabinet voluntarily take testing. Who are they looking to influence? They're not going to influence those people who are at higher risk of drug testing. It probably have more benefit if you have some of the rock stars that influence the kids being tested voluntarily and so forth. Well, something there's another question from the audience. My question is, if you take a test and it turned out positive, will you be far off? Do you still have your job until college proved and negative? Okay. That's obviously a very sincere concern on the part of a lot of people. And by the way, you mentioned private industry, where there are there are not the protections of the ACLU or the American Federation of Federal Employees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=1025.68,1130.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Who's going to help these people out? What's going to happen to them? Well, I don't know specifically what all the private employers are doing. I think a lot of them are doing programs to try to rehabilitate. And then if you come up positive a second time, you're being fired. I couldn't speak for all of them. People have different ways of dealing with it. Most of the programs in the government have to do with with people getting some kind of rehabilitation first and then fired if they don't take the rehabilitation center. Yeah, there is right now there's the the case law is that offsite activity, drug drug use has to affect your performance on the job before a person can be fired. OPM has tried to put in the Office of Personnel Management has tried to put in regulations saying that drug use by itself warrants dismissal. And the president, I was happy to see, came out and said that they were going to put that one on hold. But the real problem is that the federal government for federal employees with Grand Rudman has cut many of the rehabilitation services that we've had, as well as the health back, the health benefit, backing for rehabilitation services. And with the cost of this drug testing, which I disagree with, Dennis, the cheap test is $15. The one that's not accurate, 90% accurate is $15. If you're going to do a middle of the road test, it might be about $125. And for one test for federal employees, the million that they're talking about, that's about 180 million. And if you come back and retest, you're talking about $540 million. And when they're cutting Social Security and cutting all these things, are we going to put up a program that basically is a witch hunt because federal employees don't have a drug problem? And you know, Jackie, if I may, I think it might be an interesting factor here to say, do we agree that using drugs is breaking the law? I mean, because sometimes I call it a sense that, hey, as long as you use them and it doesn't affect me, but, you know, are we breaking the law or are we not breaking the law? Why would you raise that question? Why would you raise that question? Because I keep hearing people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=1130.7,1248.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me let me go back to a problem we have with a local McDonald's and typhoid fever. And they go into the and it gets all kind of publicity and coverage and they go up to the employees and they say, you know, you may have a health problem, you may be affecting the health of your coworkers, you may be affecting the health of the general public. We want to test you. And everybody runs in and they stick needles in their arm and they vaccinate them. But the minute you mention drugs, everyone becomes a constitutional expert. I can understand it, but there's a big difference there. In the case of typhoid, you have a highly contagious disease that clearly if someone has typhoid and they dealing with sell it, they're going to pass it on to someone else. There's a very drug abuse or number one problem in this country today. It's not South America, it's not herpes, it's not AIDS, and it's not typhoid fever. It's drug abuse. And we have to address this problem. I might say that income tax evasion is the biggest problem we have today. You might like to have automatic audits of the IRS to come after people when you see the constitutional people jumping up like crazy. Okay. The debate is, is it income tax rates? Okay. We're going to take a break and come back with some of the issues that you're raising. I don't know if we're going to talk about the tax evasion or whatever, but we will discuss the issue. Don't forget the 59 telephone call. Register your feelings. We'll take a break and come right back. Now he. Now, here's this week's community calendar. Hello. My name is Hilda for the Baltimore chapter of the NAACP is holding the 1986 Unity banquet on Friday, September 26, at 7 p.m.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=1249.05,1473.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the Palladium, 2900 Liberty Heights Avenue. Earl Graves, publisher of Black Enterprise magazine, is our keynote speaker. Scholarship and award presentations will be made. Renew your commitment to social and economic justice by supporting this important event. For tickets and further information, please call 3663 300. If your group or organization would like to announce an event, please write us in care of Cityline. WJC TV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland 21211. Or call us for further information at 46600013. Between the hours of nine and five. Welcome back. We're in the midst of a very active discussion about drug testing in the workplace. And before we continue that discussion, I want to remind you at home that we're conducting a telephone poll that poses the question, should there be mandatory drug testing in the workplace? If you want to respond to that poll, if you want to respond, yes, you dial one 970 202660. If you want to respond, no, dial one 900 7202666. Remember, that call will cost you $0.50. All right. Back here in the studio, we have another question from the audience that that I don't think has been brought up yet. It's a very good question. Okay. I'd just like to know, what are your opinions or feelings on applicant testing? In other words, somebody who comes to apply for a job and the organization wants to test the applicant. Is that violating somebody's constitutional rights? What are your opinions there? And secondly, if an organization has the public safety as a part of what they do, how would you test, say, maybe just the air traffic controllers or bus drivers or whoever without testing the other employees? Do you advocate testing everybody in that kind of organization or just testing the people who have public safety and to the point our firefighters and police officers before they're hired? And we've been doing that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=1473.92,1628.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not only do we do that, but we give our police officers a lie detector test. And if they can't pass that test, they are not hired. Now, is that just the police officers? Police and fire? Okay. Now, what's new in our program or two aspects and this would answer your question. One, we do want to continue that to make sure that that integrity is maintained, if you will. The second is by request of our head of transportation. We want to include our bus drivers, not because we feel we're any better or worse than any other municipality, but because they are driving around with 40 lives under their immediate control. And I know it sounds again like political rhetoric, but we feel as if the public not only has a right to expect these people to be drug free, we feel they have the right to demand that these people be drug free. How can you enforce drug abuse as a police officer if you are a drug abuser? That's a good question. The question of pre-employment testing there, it's a much more difficult one in terms of constitutional protections. People don't have the job yet. So the Fourth Amendment, it's not like they're losing something, losing a job. They're still losing their privacy, and we're still not entirely comfortable with it. But I don't see why the courts aren't completely clear enough. There's probably not a constitutional protection before you have the job. By the way, in Annapolis, our firefighters union has said we're for this 100%. And our representatives in the police department said we're also for this. But is that discriminating against the firefighters, the police department and the bus drivers? And you're not doing the cafeteria workers and you're not doing the street cleaners and so forth? I think it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=1628.92,1728.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's because they have the lives of the community in their hands. They they're special people. When you give someone a badge and a gun, you'd better know something about them. Because you talk about discrimination, they can raise a lot of hell on the community. That's a very good point. You do want to know something about them because they have a lot of responsibility. We look to them for a lot and a lot of responsibility. I'm even more concerned, actually, about the fact that you give them polygraph tests, which are even more inaccurate than drug tests. But that's beside the point. Another show, that's a whole nother show. The question of testing safety workers. I mean, I'm concerned if a bus driver or if it's a police officer or a firefighter or a pilot, anyone comes in unable to perform, whether it's for drug use, drinking, whether they were up all night with their kids, if for any reason they can't perform to their job, I'd like we should create some kind of reflex test when they come in in the morning, have pilots do a 15 minute test just to show that they sit on a flight simulator for 15 minutes to prove that they can do it. And if they can't for any reason, you don't want to fly that day. Okay. Let's John, this question of who to test and who not to test is know. President Reagan said sensitive employees. And that's been interpreted to almost a million and a half federal employees. I don't know what kind of secret or a million and a half people could hold. That would still be a secret, but probably have too many federal employees. Okay. Let's take a call from home again so that we can hear from the people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=1728.79,1808.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hi. CALLER you're on City line live. Oh, good morning, Jackie. I'd just like to ask this question. I know this is a political year and I wonder where we as people in the community let our politicians wait until we get to a crisis situation and then we spend the next four years dealing with that crisis. One And how are we going to deal with it? Talking about where are we going to get the money from and when all the time we've given money out to other places, other people and other issues, I wonder why we as people in the community let up. We always said we've got to vote people in to do the best thing for our people as a community. Well, we never do that. We always wait till the last minute until there's a crisis. Interventions to enhance home. And then we sit around and talk and talk and talk. A caller not to cut you off, but is there a question hidden in there at all that you can do very quickly? Yes. I wonder why they went to a political year to talk about a crisis. Okay. Thank you for the call. Okay. All righty. I think his question is very clear. These last you know, the last four or five or six years, we've seen a lot of these programs cut that really try to to help this type of social problem. And they've been cut, cut, cut. And now we jump up with a with an enforcement type of procedure to to to undo all that's been done in the last four or five years. I'm going to put my question back out on the table. Is this a red herring? Yes. Let me play devil's advocate and I'll say no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=1809.85,1899.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But as far as a political question and I'm saying this as a Democrat, President Reagan is a Republican and he can't run again. So what is his while he's trying to change that? What is his political incentive to want to address that problem? I'm one of the only politicians in Maryland not now running for office. Annapolis is off. Year election is not until three years from now. What's my incentive to make this a red herring? But usually after you when you start running immediately down to you? Well, that's what they tell me to do. The press? Yes, sir. My name is Charlie Stewart, the publicity director for the NAACP in Baltimore. And it's direct to Mayor Callahan. It may be a surprise to you, but up there is number one issue with us is unemployment and underemployment in the black community. And when you start talking about taking away jobs, we stop and take notice. And for $15, you going to put somebody out of work and how are they going to get rehabilitation if they don't have a job to pay for it? And certainly your $15 not going to pay for rehabilitation, too, if some of the biggest abusers of drugs in this country are doctors. I would also not want to have a surgeon working on me who was not drug free as well as a bus driver. And so why do the little people take all the problems? That's what I want to do, sir. I'll answer. Let me try to answer both questions. Number one, I never look at a question as black or white, and I'm not looking at it as a black problem or a white problem. I'm looking at as a problem of this country as a whole.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=1899.51,1984.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'll say once again, this is the number one problem facing this country. That's the first point. Number two, I'll go back to what I said about 10 minutes ago. The city of Annapolis and myself as mayor can only address the problems within the city of Annapolis. I don't doubt for a second that physicians have drug problems. As a matter of fact, I don't know where you live, sir, but if you go four doors to the right of four doors a left, some family has a problem with drugs. I don't care what their profession or what their color. This is a national problem. It's not an ACP, It's not Baltimore and it's not Annapolis. Shall we go into their houses four doors down the road here and search for the place for drugs? Is that only with probable cause? Of course, if they don't have anything to fear, if they don't have any drugs, they shouldn't have anything to fear. Is that is that they are? No, not at all. Back to the red herring notion. I mean, that I think kind of goes along with this. We do have problems with unemployment. We have a whole lot of problems. And drug testing is is kind of a tale of the whole problem. We're not getting at the roots of it. I mean, we talk about how much funding has been cut. The figure that's floating around Congress right now is that the feds have cut 40% of their drug enforcement funds since 1980. STEWART Could you hold that? We're going to take a break and come back for you to expound just on that point for sure. We're going to take a break. Again, we remind you of the city line telephone pole. Register your approval or disapproval for about mandatory drug testing in the workplace.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=1985.17,2066.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We'll take a break and come right back. The issue today on Citi line is should there be mandatory drug testing in the workplace? And we've been debating that and we'd like for you to take part in our telephone pole. We stopped at a point that Stewart was making and Chip Silverman of the Drug Enforcement Drug Abuse and Drug Abuse Treatment Center. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I would like to expound on that. Well, there's a couple issues I want to touch. One, I agree with Mayor Callahan that from a health standpoint, the number one crisis in this country for the last dozen years has been addictions, drug and alcohol and drug related crimes right up there. The last half of the century. That's your major problem. Unfortunately, a lot of people didn't discover it until Len Bias died around on June 5th. And so I think we've got to discuss the issue since that point, how people have responded to it. I think it's good that the media has gotten involved and therefore it's awakened a lot of our politicians and government people. I don't think running for office had anything to do with the drug issue being played up right now in terms of funding. One of my problems with the drug testing is that you're really talking millions and millions of dollars if you want to mandatorily test everyone in the federal workforce, because even if you went out procurement or competitive bid and got each test for $10 and you want to do it correctly, random testing, you've got to do it five or six times a year. You multiply those figures around and you're it's hundreds of millions of dollars. Where this money coming from, I have no idea. Since Gramm-Rudman is cutting 600,000 from the state of Maryland's drug and alcohol budget for this year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=2067.25,2261.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You've had other cuts. You've had cuts from the federal government over the last six years where they've decreased treatment and prevention dollars. They have increased enforcement dollars at one point with the drug eradication programs, but they didn't increase treatment of prevention. Enforcement wise, if you dry up the supply, you put people into treatment. If there's nowhere for them to go and treatment, you've defeated the purpose. And once they're done, if they're illiterate and there are no jobs out there, where do they go? Okay. Another problem to be dealt with and another question. Ma'am? Hi. I have a question regarding the blustery case, the midshipmen in Annapolis. I'd like to direct the question to Mayor Callahan and also the gentleman from the ACLU. I'd like to know what your comments are regarding what you think those parents went through, what you think. Even midshipmen blessed we went through regarding the situation that happened with him. Give just a little background on that for our listeners and viewers who may not know that the Leicester case is a case where a mid was awakened at approximately 3:00 in the morning along with the rest of his company, 18 urinated while 18 watched and they both labeled the specimen. One said, This is my specimen. He said, Yes, one said, I watched you collect this specimen. And they said, Yes. They tested it and it was found positive. They retested it several times. It was found positive. He was dismissed from the academy. He fought the dismissal. Secretary Lehman on a political decision, threw that case out. Now, my son happens to be an 85 graduate of the Naval Academy. I have no problem at all with that testing procedure. And an independent investigation by the Navy itself found that there was no likelihood that that he had taken any drugs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=2262.02,2368.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He lost five weeks of classes, and I believe he did finally graduate with his class, but barely. And I'm skeptical that that midshipmen blustery has much of a career in the Navy now that he's he's dragged the Navy through this, embarrassed of them. And now he's got to go back to his job. And he's I mean, talk about black marks on a career. He came out positive finally after a lot of politics. But where is he going to go from there in the Navy. So how did it happen that it turned out positive? I don't know the specifics of the case. The problem is that these tests are inaccurate and Chip could talk about that more than I can. But but they're they're varying degrees of inaccuracy. The samples could have been switched somewhere along the way. Any number of I'd like to step out of the way because I know a lot of politicians are watching this. This is a very sensitive case in Annapolis that my comments are not directed at the blustery case specifically, even though your question was mine is in the conceptual aspects of does the Naval Academy want a first class drug abuse policy? And I would say, yes, they do, and put a couple of exclamation marks after that. But even that incident raises raises a question that is, here we have an instance where supposedly the testing was done numerous times, found positive with, I would assume, some degree of confidence. It's taken to court, it's taken all the way out of court, didn't throw it out. I know all not up to the secretary of the Navy who overturns that type of decision. All right. On the one hand, how are you going to enforce something like that if it's going to be left up to an individual to make a judgment call in the final analysis? And number two, even if there were 100% confidence in the accuracy of the test, would you still be equally as opposed? I think that in the case of the midshipmen, I think it points out one of the questions or said before here was someone who could he was graduating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=2368.5,2474.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It became a media case. But what about the little typist or the secretary who runs into the same situation? She's not going to get that media attention to have that case overturned. She's going to be out of a job and looking to get in over a long period of time and have her life really, really affected. So I don't think the blustery case where you're saying that that was righted or they got back in. I mean, you certainly can't have that. That's not going to be the way this thing is done across the country is having the media come in and say this is wrong or this is right. You're going to have a lot of little people who are going to get caught up in the gears of this. But what it really does do that Gillespie case is point out the possibility of error and the damage that it could do to an individual. I would I would beg to differ with that, because I'm not sure anyone along the line question the possibility of error, because even at the final court hearing, Mr. Blustery at that time then said, I may have ingested this drug unknowingly. And that was the final point, and that's why it was a political decision. The decision was not the test was inaccurate or the procedure was unconstitutional or the specimen was improperly labeled. The point was strictly political. Let me get back to that percent accuracy point. Even if the tests were 100% accurate, we'd have problems with it. Because you're still forcing innocent people. You're forcing people to suffer the indignity of a drug test to prove that they're innocent. And that's just turning our constitutional system on its head. Okay. Again, we will continue our debate of should mandatory drug testing be done in the workplace? We again remind you to register your feelings in our special city Line telephone call.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=2475.51,2569.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We'll take a break and come back with our continued discussion. Yeah. Okay. We're continuing our discussion on should mandatory drug testing take place in the workforce? We're going to throw it right back out to Betty, who is in the audience right now. And we do have another question out here. Yes, ma'am. Hi, my name is Kay Merrill. During the fifties, there was a movie called Reefer Madness that was made, which sort of did a hysteria kind of thing with marijuana. Seventies, It was heroin, the eighties, cocaine, now crack. Are we allowing ourselves to get caught up in another type of hysteria where we're really overblowing the situation out of proportion? Or do you all feel that we're now beginning to address all of those problems concerning drugs? Let me let me address that. We just did an incidence and prevalence study and I'll talk about the state of Maryland, not the rest of the country right now, because that's where we most of us live. You're talking there are 150,000 people in this state who are dysfunctional or at the risk of dysfunction or are addicts. The way we define addiction today because of their drug problem. You have another 200,000 or plus who have alcoholism problems. Now, if that continues to grow at the rate we're seeing by the end of this decade, one out of every seven people between the ages of 11 and 65 will have a serious substance abuse problem. Now, if that's not serious or a crisis, nothing is. But then again becomes a question of the chicken or the egg. You know, you've got major programs. People talk about put the military on the borders to stop these drugs from coming into the country. On the other end, you have to test everybody to determine whether or not you like it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=2570.19,2764.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I get back to what I asked earlier, and I guess we need a consensus. Do we have a problem? That's the first question we should ask. Do we have a drug problem? I have someone here sitting me tells me that income tax is a bigger problem than drugs, and I'm wondering if I'm in the wrong universe. My point my point on the income tax was where would the same people who would jump up if there was mandatory auditing on income tax? Where are they on the constitutional question of of the drug testing? There's no question drug abuse is a big problem and it's the means to take care of it. That's what we're talking about here. Do we cut back the Constitution? Do we look at our working people as the means to cut back or to go after this problem? Or we do or do we do it on a rehabilitation in an educational manner? And I'm for I'm for the rehabilitation and the education in our schools rather than a mandatory workforce type of drug testing. Okay. Let me ask, at this point in the country, how widespread is drug testing in the workplace? Just just a kind of a survey or overview. Do we have a sense of that already? It's very hard to know. The figures that we keep hearing are that between 25 and 40% of the Fortune 500 are now testing their employees. These are private companies, private companies in terms of government testing. There are programs here and there across the country. Most of them are in court, but it's not done across the board in government situation at all. Is your is your consensus that there definitely will be some form of drug testing in the government and in private industry, at least up to some point? I mean, it is here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=2765.47,2859.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is going to happen. Yes, I think you I think you're going to find it. I think if you look at the tenor of the public right now and the philosophy, the bent is more towards a conservative approach, I think that frustrations there are people are fed up with the drug problem and they're trying to find through any bits and pieces they can how we can address it. You would be surprised at the number of companies that still don't have employee assistance programs to deal not just with drugs, but with alcohol, with mental health problems, with other associated health problems. And that's scary. You know, in the years where I've been in this agency, not one professional or collegiate sports team ever came to our agency to talk about how we can do this, with one exception. And that was Morgan State University, where I used to coach. But that's the only place already. Let's take a break in our discussion right now, because we've been inviting our home audience to call in to register their feelings about whether or not there should or should not be mandatory drug testing. We're going to go to the telephone poll results right now to see what our audience feels about the whole issue of mandatory drug testing from the one 900 number that we have given. Throughout today's program, we find out that 89 people registered a yes vote, that there should be mandatory drug testing in the workplace. 147 voted no, that there should not be a course. So there was no indication as to whether or not they felt that other things should have been done. But that is the result to this moment. And I think those results are kind of interesting because we don't have a very strong opposition.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=2859.67,2952.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There seems to be a reasonable amount of support. It would seem it was less than a what, about a 50 60% difference there. Any comment by a poll was done recently. It showed that 72% of the public thought federal employees should be tested. And that was about two months ago. But I think that the public now is starting to look at the other side of this thing. And I think it's going to be tempered with some reasonableness. And the TIME magazine poll showed, too, that 70% of the people agree that there should be some form of testing. I think that's that's the answer, some form of testing, probably people looking in sensitive positions, positions that they're concerned about safety, health, welfare and defense. The other thing is we worry a little bit about some biases. If it's a supervisor saying, I think so-and-so should be tested, I think we need to know that there's got to be a lot of objectivity in there or you're going to run into a whole lot of more problems that you haven't even touched on yet. One of the problems with the testing is 2 seconds. Go on. Okay. Thank you so very, very much. I'm not going to do would be to go down the line. But thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being a part of our debate today on whether or not there should be mandatory drug testing in the workplace. The issue continues even though city lines discussion has ended. We'll take a break and come right back with t Monday here in the newsroom for. Good afternoon. I'm two months here. Topping today's news, caps sickle cell anemia. September is National Sickle Cell Anemia Awareness Month. These are the facts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=2952.91,3180.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One in ten black Americans has sickle cell trait. One in 500 black Americans has sickle cell disease. There are approximately 896 at risk couples in Maryland. Being at risk means that the couple has a 25% chance of having a child with the disease with each pregnancy. David Tazewell Cox. The third is a first grade student at Grove Park Elementary School here in the city. David has sickle cell anemia. He is also the local and national sickle cell anemia poster child. He joins us now with his mother, Martha Stevenson, to talk about his experience with sickle cell anemia. Good afternoon, David. Mr. Stevenson, thank you for joining us. Mrs. Stevenson, how were you first diagnosed? How did you first learn that David had sickle cell anemia? I first found out that David has sickle cell anemia when he was ten months old. He became ill at home and we had to rush him to the hospital. And upon being having a blood test, they informed me that David had sickle cell anemia. What indication that did you have initially that David was that sick? None at all. I was never tested. His father was never tested. And I advise any mother or couple anyone. Please have. The sickle cell test is very important. What prompted you to take David to the hospital in the first place? He was very warm. He was not breathing normally. And that would made me rushing to the hospital. Did this happen frequently? Upon finding out that he has sickle cell anemia, he has been hospitalized several times. And the worst crisis that David has had has had is the back and side. Did he cry? What what were his indications? Indication was mommy, I heard my side, my stomach hurt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=3181.12,3295.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then he starts screaming and howling that because his body is not getting enough oxygen, his blood is clogged with a lot of things that cause circles look like little eyes. You ever seen, I suppose on the outside of a house? That is exactly what it looks like. Now, David is the local and the national sickle cell anemia poster child. Yes. How does he gain that title? Okay. David became the local national sickle cell. Sickle cell poster. Because anytime in the coarsest contests, I had to submit a letter and a picture of David to the local and national office, which is located in Lausanne, California. And he walked away with both titles. Let's talk to David for a second. Hi, David. You know that you have sickle cell disease when you come down with what's called a crisis. What happens? How do you feel? Painful. I'm going to. Does it hurt a lot? Yes. Are you active, David, like other children? Do you play a lot? No. You're the national poster child, David. And you go around. Do you speak to other kids? Do you have a chance to meet other children suffering with sickle cell anemia? No. Mrs. Stevenson, I think perhaps you may have that opportunity to do that. And certainly you are very active in trying to get the word out on the seriousness of sickle cell disease. What activities are you involved with? I understand you're involved with a local group here in Maryland concerned with sickle cell. Okay. The local group is the Sickle Cell Committee, which is located 828 East Baltimore Street. The office also gives has a camp each summer for sickle cell children and they normally sit out applications if they have slots open. If you could talk to other parents, what would your advice be? My main prize and concern to most parents would be Please have yourself tested and your child screening for sickle cell trait is a necessary first step in identifying couples at risk of having children with sickle cell disease.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=3295.69,3432.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Association for Sickle Cell Services, Education, Research and Treatment assert, offers free voluntary testing, follow up counseling and referral to Central Maryland Committee on Sickle Cell Offers, testing, counseling and information, as well as direct financial aid to sickle cell patients. Both groups urge screening for all blacks of childbearing age. David, Mr. Stevenson, thank you both for being with us this afternoon. Thank you. Last week on News Corp, we talked with outgoing State Senator Clarence Mitchell, the third. At that time, he was uncertain of his political future, according to a report appearing in this week's Afro. Mitchell may be in the running for a local political seat. Council President Clarence to Brown says that come January, only one council seat may be vacant. Michael Mitchell may relinquish his state Senate seat and the state's central committee for that district could put Clarence Mitchell in that vacancy. NEWSCAST We'll keep you posted on those results. And finally, as part of our For Kids Sake Group, W has commissioned Lewis Harris to conduct an unprecedented national poll about children's issues. The range of issues covered includes family life, government, schools, other institutions, and the public's willingness to contribute to the growth and development of children. WJC will announce those results about how Baltimore compares to the national poll in our studio on September 23rd at 2 p.m.. We invite you to join us then. And that's the news gap. I'm t Mintier. Jackie and Betty will be up next. Have a good afternoon. Thank you. And we'd like to apologize to our audience by letting you know that because our discussion on mandatory drug testing went so well and there were so many issues to cover, we decided to for go with entertainment page with Harold Anthony today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267#t=3433.42,3557.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105506/file/206267/transcript/48913/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But he will be back for sure next week. That's right. We'll see you next week. Also want to remind you that Jackie and I will be out at Martin's west on October 2nd for Morgan State University's fall gala. We invite you to come out and join us. And if you need more information on that, please call four, four, four, three, three, two, three. That's a fundraiser for Morgan State University. Now, next week's show, Male impotency. A serious problem among some males, right? I would know. I got three little girls afraid. Oh, I'm talking about you, baby. If you'd like to be in our studio audience, call us now for safe reservations at 481 1313, 481 13, 13. Exclude B.T. Bennett Basrah Eye Taxi Number. Anyway. We also want to remind you that next week we'll be doing a follow up on our friend Carson Colbert to see how he's doing on his weight loss program. We'll see you next week. I'm very badly. I'm Jackie Hall. 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