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A teenager kills himself or herself in this country every hour and 45 minutes, every hour and 45 minutes, 6000 a year reported teenage suicides. Today, we asked Susan White, Baildon, the victim of suicide herself and her family. There are some people, Susan, who say we shouldn't even be talking about this subject on television. What do you think about that? Richard, we have to talk about it. We have to talk about it before it's too late. I think if I had talked about it with my son, if he had talked about it with me and with a professional who could have helped him, he would have he would be alive today. There's no question in my mind. We will be talking about teenage suicide and offering you a hotline number for help in just a moment. On today's people are talking. National Depressive Management, Manic depressive. Good morning, everybody. I'm just talking with Nancy Scheff, who's one of our guests. We're going to be talking about teenage suicide today. I guess the what happened in Bergenfield, New Jersey, has awakened all of us again to this tragedy. And then you look at statistics, Susan White burden, and you see that suicide is the second leading cause of death among 15 to 24 year olds. It has touched your family. We know your son, Jodi, who was 17, and Nancy Sheff, who when you were, what, 18 or 19 when you were 19 years old, you also try to take your own life and now you are a member of the National Depressive Manic Depressive Association. Yeah. I'd like to welcome you both to the program. We started talking so about about the fact that some people say, keep us off the air. Don't bring it up because it will make teenagers kill themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=4.95,119.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You have to talk about it. You're not going to put ideas into young people's heads. Not today. I don't know a young person in this country who hasn't been touched by suicide in one way or another. Either somebody in their school or in their community or friends who have talked about it, or perhaps they've even thought about it themselves. They have to know where to go, how to channel these thoughts, The fact that they can have such thoughts and that they aren't crazy, they can have these kind of thoughts, get down on life, be depressed, think life isn't worth living, and know how to deal with those feelings or cope with them. Find someone to help them understand those feelings and then go on to live productive life. What we Have to do in this hour, there have been a lot of shows on suicide, and what we have to do today is to provide some definite help for the parents who are watching today, who perhaps don't realize that some of the signs and symptoms are there and they want we want you to react and respond before it's too late. Now, Nancy, when you were 19 years old, you tried to take your own life. What were you feeling and what was happening then in your life? Put yourself back as a young teenager. Not that you're not still young, but as a young teenager. Back then, I felt totally alone. I felt like I was the only one who felt so isolated and sad and without a future. The day was today. I did not have a future and it was going to remain depressed and sad. What's that feel like? Can you tell us what that feels like? It feels like you're the only person in the world that's going through hell.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=120.47,214.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everything is gray. You cannot feel any love coming from your parents or your friends. You feel isolated. You try to talk to someone and they think you're too young to have depressed feelings. It's just a phase you're going through or your hormones have gone crazy and the feeling is so strong that eventually for me, I had to try to commit suicide to get help. Nobody believed you actually try to slit your wrists, right? And you did a terrible job, right? Thank goodness. Are you glad you did a terrible job? Yeah. We are glad you did a terrible job right away. No, I was quite angry at myself. I thought, you know, I can't even succeed trying to commit suicide. That's really failing. Have you had any thoughts about it since? Since I am a manic depressive and have gone through many depressions. Yes. But I have a loving husband and two children that keeps me from going over the edge. When Bruce Regan, Doctor Regan joins us in a few minutes, I'm going to ask him to define manic depressive, because maybe some of our some of our kids are depressed. Go ahead. Yeah, but the point is, Richard, you don't have to be a manic depressive to think about suicide. I know that this is a problem. Was a problem for Nancy is a problem for other people. But there are a lot of what we call, quote, normal teenagers who are faced with tremendous pressures, who feel that they don't have the support of their families. I don't think it's a phenomenon here in the 80s that all of a sudden our kids are killing themselves. I think the reasons I think they are real reasons. I think there is more pressure and less support.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=215.39,323.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm not somebody that is simply pointing fingers at blame at anybody. I'm I'm saying that that my situation, the situation that that my son and I were in right before his suicide is not all that different than what many parents and teenagers are going through today. And that situation was what how long how many years ago was that? It's been ten years. May 9th, ten years ago that that Jerry died. But. You know, I was a single parent at that time. And I was saying to Jody, you know, you got to hold on. You got to be independent. You got to stand on your own two feet. You got to carry your own weight if we're going to make it. He wanted to do well in school so he could get into college. He knew that that perhaps, too, to bring his problems to me would add to my burdens. Is this something that you thought about later? Yes, of course. I've gone over and over it. And but I've also talked to a lot of young people today who tell me that there are so many pressures to to do well in school so that they get into the right college and get the right job and that there are more single parent families and there are more families where both parents are working and more kids are coming home to empty houses, there is less support, more pressure and less support. I was I was talking on a panel with a psychologist in New York, and this psychologist was arguing that there is less pressure on our young people today. And I said, well, I think I differ with you. I think what you mean to say is there there's there's less demand, there's fewer demands on our kids to take out the garbage or cut the lawn or baby sit with baby brother or things that would make them feel a part of the family, needed and necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=324.3,430.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the pressures to grow up quicker to get involved with drugs and sex at an earlier age, these are adult pressures. You got away from Jody for a second. I just want to get back to that for just a moment. At that time, he was having some trouble with a with a girlfriend who just broken up, I guess, with the love of his life. Right. Right. I mean, and of course, he thought there would never be another love like that. He thought there would never be a girl that he could be that close to. And Jody, like other teenagers, just haven't lived long enough to experience that. There can be another girlfriend. That change can occur. His life was really messed up. And I was, as his mom saying, this is a phase. This is a teenage phase that will pass. Not wanting to believe that my son's life could be in danger, that he could even think about killing himself and certainly not not do it. You don't want to believe that that kind of thing can happen to you. And I guess too often you realize you see it as clear as day, but it's too late. That's it. And that's why we need to look at it now, to look at the problem before it's too late to look at our own kids and our relationship with those kids. And. And are there things that we want to to address right now? Well, we will continue to address them in just a moment. 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We'll see you later in the week on Thursday. Joining us now in our discussion of teenage suicide is Dr. Bruce Regan, who's a psychiatrist and the acting superintendent at the Spring Grove Hospital here in the Baltimore area. And you're also the chairperson of the governor's Task Force on Youth Suicide Prevention. We'd like to welcome you to the show, Dr.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=603.95,714.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Regan. Nancy was saying that she was a manic depressive. What? What are we supposed to understand that means? Well, that is a specific major psychiatric disorder. It's a biologically mediated depression that has hereditary roots and that it has specific treatment intervention protocols, which includes lithium and some supportive psychotherapy. It is different from other kinds of depressions in that it is mainly biologically mediated and is usually cyclical in terms of having mood swings. All right. Try to help us understand, are these kids, many of these kids who are killing themselves, are they depressed and are they depressed in such a way that we as parents should or should not feel and see those signals? I think that most of the children probably are or show the signs of depression, which includes change in behavioral habits, change in eating habits, change in sleeping patterns, change in impulsive behavior and so forth. And if we if we get a chance, we can talk about some of those warning signs to look for and be sensitive about. Okay. I want you to meet a young man now. This is David Katz and David Harper. David is a friend of ours. He he well, we've known him for a long time. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Now, one of David's friends. Why don't you tell us the story without being as as nonspecific as you'd like to be because of the sensitivity of this issue? Well, one of my friends decided, a while ago that, things were a little bit too tough at home. And so we decided a way out, which was suicide. Now, this this young man took his life last Tuesday, is that correct? Yeah. And we have another young man who was also in the audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=715.29,813.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"His friend took his life last week, too, in two different Baltimore area high schools. You say he decided a long time ago that things weren't weren't going well. Does that mean that you, you, his and his friends saw signs and signals way back? There weren't really signals at all. I didn't expect anything to occur. Things were tough, but they're tough for everyone when you're younger. And, I just couldn't foresee, any kind of. Pattern of suicide. If I had, I would have tried to help him, but I didn't see anything, so none of his friends were able to. No, not really. We really didn't know. We know things are tough and we would talk to them a lot and calm down a lot of times. But for the most part, you know, it just seemed like every day in Bergenfield, New Jersey, there were all kinds of test scores and task forces and roundtable discussions. And they brought in counselors into the school the day after the four kids took their own lives. Right. Is there anything that's going on in your particular school? No, not really. It's not like, our sun set on TV, and it happens everywhere else. It's not like that. It's not happening in my school, and. But it did happen in your school. Yeah, I guess it wasn't. It wasn't something that would probably occur, like groups of kids doing it, you know. I just can't see that happening. His was, I guess some excuse that he didn't see any way out. And so he did what he could do. Why did kids kill themselves? Nancy Susan, why? Why is that? I think they don't see a way out there. They're hurting. They're in a lot of pain. And a lot of times that pain isn't taken seriously and they feel like this is the only way out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=813.89,933.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They feel hopeless and helpless and feel like there's no way out, that there's no way to know, no one to turn to. And that's what we need the message we need to get across to our our young people is that there there are people who can help with those kind of feelings and that they can change. They won't always have the pain that they're feeling today or the problems that they're experiencing. Problem is, I'm not sure that young people really know what they're what they're feeling, you know what I mean? And that it hurts. But they don't know that. They don't know how badly it hurts. So it doesn't make any sense. Well, I'm sure it does. I just wanted to clarify that the State Department of Education has had its own task force, educational task force that has developed a plan for youth suicide prevention that is planned to be implemented starting in July, which will include education regarding the warning signs and resources for help. It's true, though, that the individuals who are depressed oftentimes don't recognize the signs of their behavior, and frequently people who are very, very close to them, who one would assume could recognize the signs and do something about that, are also blinded for many, many reasons. And they don't pick up the signs and then intervene appropriately soon enough until it's too late. Isn't it true that that that maybe 90, 99% of young people who attempt suicide or complete suicide have told someone because they do want to reach out for help, but they don't know how to ask for that help? I know my son, Jody told a couple of friends that if his girlfriend didn't come back to him, he was going to kill himself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=934.93,1030.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they reacted in a way that many of us react when we hear the word suicide. They said, Jody, don't talk like that. Don't be crazy. Don't think such thoughts. Well, that may have given him one more reason to to kill himself. Maybe he thought he was crazy for thinking those kind of thoughts. And they came to me after his death and told me that. That he had said that when when, of course, I didn't want them to feel any any more guilt and pain than they were already feeling. But what I wanted to say is, why didn't you tell me? Why didn't someone tell me before it was too late when I could have done something? So I think that's what we need to have our antennas out. And when a friend or or child even acts like they they've given up on life to to ask them to say, are you feeling so bad that you might think about killing yourself and then continue the conversation? If they say, Yeah, I have thought about it. And as I say, I've thought about it. What do you do? Where do you turn? What I recommend. And we'll see. What if Dr. Regan agrees to ask them how they would do it, what they would do, Because, number one, it gives them the opportunity to hear themselves speak those words. But if you're a kid and then you can get help for us. All right. Where do you get the help of your child? Says, yes, I'm going to kill myself with migraines. I'll get better if my girlfriend doesn't come back with me. I'm going to I'm going to get into a car in the garage and I will do what the kids in Bergenfield do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=1031.71,1111.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's what I'm going to did. That's what I'm going to do. All right. So you are now a frantic parent. You're about to go bonkers and you say call for help. I mean, you first of all, you don't want to let go of the kid. You want to hold the kids on for the next 75 years. Right. Right. Never let the kid get out of your sight. So what do you do, Bruce? Well, it's it's time to move. And one needs to move aggressively because as we're intimating, there is a pervasive denial. And it's my opinion that youth suicide as well as most suicides, there is a prodromal or build up period where there are plenty of signs and plenty of symptoms. We're going to list the signs when we come back, all the signs. But I'm asking you, where do you go specifically the mother now who's watching, who's picked up these signs, Who's kid last night said if this doesn't improve, I'm going to kill myself. And she now is taking her son or daughter a little more seriously because of this, because of what you're seeing today. What number does she call on the telephone? Well, I tell you what number to call the telephone. It just occurred to me that we have a hotline set up in the right here. And all you have to do is call 481 13, 13 between now and I'm sorry, our main number 466 double 13, the number that's at the bottom of your screen right now. Four, six, six, 13. We will give you a variety of resource numbers to call, but be more specific. Where do you what really is indicated at that that time when the signs have been recognized as an aggressive response by the helping agent, whether it be a friend, whether it be parents, relatives or whatever, to get professional help, there needs to be an external agent to intervene, to be able to objectively assess the the lethality of the situation, whether it's in fact a serious situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=1111.63,1205.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or whether in fact it's not so serious. I know what I would do today. I would put Jody in the car and he would go to Sinai Crisis Center or a go to Shepherd frat, or he'd go to Franklin Square Hospital where they have a marvelous crisis center. I would take him if I had to wrap him up in a blanket and carry him there forcefully to get help because you got to do it right away. We'll be right back. The dangerous life of cocaine cops. Their exciting story Wednesday at nine. Caller Good morning. You're on. People are talking here on Channel 13. Your first name is. Yes, You're on the air. Yes. Well, I attempted suicide three times, and now I have a young child. Will my child try suicide? Is it something that might be hurt if Harry or. That is a genuine concern, I'm sure. Well, to answer that question, there is a higher probability and likelihood that since you have a history of suicide attempt, that your your son or any of your children would have a higher probability of experience, the same kind of thing. That's not to say that, in fact, he or she will or all of your children will have the same kind of problem, but the likelihood of the probability is certainly increased significantly under those. But it's not hereditary. It's not hereditary. That's correct. I mean, the example has been set. They will they will know about it. If they don't if she doesn't tell her children about it, they'll find out about it some one way or another. That's something that I didn't deal with when my my first husband committed suicide. I thought that everybody in the family was less likely to kill themselves because we had seen the pain that it caused, when in fact, I learned after my son's suicide that my children were all more vulnerable because their father had set an example.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=1206.77,1452.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And perhaps when Jodi was in all the trauma and turmoil of those teen years that he looked to the example that his father had set. And I didn't realize that I was totally ignorant of that fact. And that's what we need to know when when somebody in our family or or even in the community commits suicide, that that example can can be life threatening. Caller Why don't you try to take your own life? It was just family pressures, pressures at home. You just get tired of listening to it. So you try to think of a way out and you did it. How many times? Three. Are you finished trying? Yes. When did you decide that you were finished trying? Well, after the third time. And they said they put me under psychiatric care, I realized that it was a serious problem, and I guess it just wasn't worth it anymore. This is obsession. You're this depressive manic depressive association. It is that. Is that to give you constant support so that you won't tell us about the Depression? We have support group meetings all over the country. We have 88 chapters and we meet about once a week. And that seems to help take some of the pressure off the fact that we can actually sit down and talk about it to somebody who understands. Okay. Carla, thanks for your call. Now, let's let's talk about these warning signals. And again, if any of these signals hit home and you say, hey, that's my son or that's my daughter, that's what's been happening in my house, then call 4660013 between now and the end of the workday. And we're going to give you a variety of resource numbers that you can turn to for help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=1453.01,1550.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Substance abuse. They now find out that the four kids in Bergenfield, New Jersey, were coming down for either a cocaine or a crack trip. So substance abuse would be number one. And the other is Dr. Regan. I just want to elaborate a little bit on substance. It includes alcohol abuse, also, not just other illicit drugs, but alcohol in particular. Then there's depression, of course, which we have already talked about, and the signs of depression or change in eating habits, change in mood, change in sleeping habits, etc.. Okay. Violent moves as violent mood swings where children may experience, very, very significant trappings of depression with cheerfulness and crying, sometimes without even being aware of what they're crying about. They may feel like crying. If you see these signs, it's an important, prodromal. Fourth is impulsiveness. Doing risky kinds of things. Change in control of behavior. Those kinds of things. We have things to look out for. A fifth is giving things away. This is a significant sign in that, when someone internally, especially a child, is beginning to make a decision about killing him or herself, he'll oftentimes begin giving things away. Talking about suicide. This, these, this particular sign should be taken very seriously as this belt and said that as soon as a child begins to verbalize that he's thinking about taking his or her life, aggressive intervention should be instituted just about immediately. Another warning sign, previous experience with suicide, either through relatives, friends, neighbors within the family, whether it be a successful attempt or an unsuccessful attempt, The the vulnerability increases significantly if a child has experience or has had some experience with suicide, including the young men in our audience are also now in a in a risk category. An eighth, parameter is self-destructive behavior, impulsive and self-destructive behavior, either wittingly or unwittingly doing things that hurt themselves, either physically or emotionally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=1552.01,1678.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And finally, a preoccupation with death that the child begins to talk about death, whether it be about suicide or about death. When that is, prominent, one must really act very, very quickly. I know Jeff Topper is here, too. He's a friend of David's. They are best boyfriends. Jeff also had a friend take his own life last week. They've each had a good friend take their own life last week here in the Baltimore area. Were there any signs or anything that you can say about your friend? Not really. I never even thought of. He was the most high spirited guy you ever want to meet. And all sudden, one day, I got a phone call from his mother that he decided to quit, and. Just can't hear. What? Can't handle. Sorry. That's all right. I'm just upset about this, but. Is such a good guy, but. Life. Life is too valuable. I can't understand why someone would do something like that. I mean, the idea of committing suicide, they don't really realize the effect it has on others. It is just. Two. How are you guys dealing? Dealing with it now with with your friends. Friends and and and the kids who you are best friends. You've both lost another good friend in the same week. I mean, this is really hitting very close to home. How are you? How are you dealing with this and the rest of the kids that know him? Well, I told Jeff one day and then Jeff came in and told me the next day about his. And, we pretty much did, group therapy on each other. It was, it's a mutual bond that pretty much brought us together, knowing that, that this was a reality, that there were, there's problems that people just think are unsolvable, which I think is it's ridiculous to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=1679.26,1792.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Assume, that that'll solve everything, because if anything, it's going to cause more pain than anything. I think sticking together, we did a lot and we talk a lot about, what we could have done. There is a certain amount of, I guess guilt when we first started it wondering, could we have done something or could we, where we get calls or where we not. But I think if anything, we prolong the period of, the life, I guess, by, just being there and talking to them and showing them that, life wasn't bad, I guess. Is there anything going on in your school now to make kids more aware, or do you try to? Not right now, but I'm sure that'll be something in the future. But I don't know nothing really that you told me. Susan. You told me about some you had heard about a possible principal who said that once the. Where were you telling me that a kid, a guidance official in Baltimore County, was quoted in a newspaper article last week in the Baltimore Sun as saying that if they identified an at troubled youth in the Baltimore County school system, that what they would do would be to call the parents. And then it was in the parents hands that they would do no more. I can't believe that that was a direct quote, because that goes against everything that we're working for with the task force. I happen to be a member of the governor's task force also, and we're trying very hard to come up with some recommendations and and some in-school programs that would teach prevention, intervention and post vention when it comes to dealing with suicide, because these young men are doing beautifully and they're supporting one another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=1794.0,1893.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I think it would be very helpful for for them and the other people in the school to have a counselor or have someone that they knew they could go and talk to. It's like Bergen Field. I heard a girl on ABC Evening News last Friday when they name those people who are helping in that area as the persons of the week say. You know, now we have seven hotlines and and we have school counseling programs being established. Why did it take for teenagers to kill themselves to develop even one hotline? We must do something before and schools should have these facilities available and readily available to know where to turn before and after. We'll be back to the telephones after this. Thursday at 19 year old Michael Caruso, Jr. Who was held at gunpoint for eight terrifying hours. Okay. One from the top 581 dialing for dollars, call two and it's going to be a beautiful day. Spring has sprung. We're going to get up into the 60s today, warmer tomorrow, 460446041. Top 581. You just saw that little blip there about Thursday's program with Michael Caruso, Jr, the young man who was held hostage at gunpoint at the Dallas-Fort Worth airport for eight hours. This number is not clicking over 4604. He is an amazing young man and he and his dad are going to be here. The special guests Thursday morning at nine. And Michael is so cute. And he always talks about this thing you think was talking about a day, a trip to the Oriole game. But he was held at hostage and at gunpoint for eight terrifying hours. He befriended the man that took him and got away safely. Hello? Yes, your last four digits of 4604, Richard Sherrod, Channel 13 people are talking, dialing for dollars for the, you know, the count and the amount in the jackpot which we just gave on the air.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=1894.33,2081.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was one top 581. And I'm sorry you didn't write it down. Maybe we'll call you again. So on 594 on the next call, if you'd like to be part of the audience with Michael Caruso Jr. And on the same program, we are going to be showing you an interview with a man who spent last Friday in jail with the guy he became friends with, Charles Manson, the deadliest man alive, considered by many. He was an ex-con. Newell Emmons, who spent served time with Charles Manson in prison and has written a book about the Tate LaBianca murders from the words of Manson himself, 41 3000. All of that Thursday. And we'll be back in a moment after this word. Hello, My name is Tom Salt. People Against Child Abuse invites you to attend a fund raiser, dinner, dance and silent auction on Friday, April 3rd from 7 p.m. until midnight at the New Annapolis Hotel on West Street in Annapolis. There will be award presentations to outstanding pack of members, entertainment and lots of interesting people. Proceeds will benefit the Packer project. Public is welcome to attend. For tickets and further information, please call 2697816. Thank you for your indulgence. Holding on the line and calling. You're on the air now. Morning. How are you? Good. Fine, thank you. What's your name? First name? Mary. Mary. Good morning. I had a son that committed suicide. I just. I have a question for. Do these children really intend to die or. You know, this happened, like, five years ago and talk about a little easier. My son left a note in this note. He said that nobody cared if he was a real loser, which is not true. You know, everybody loved him. It was obvious, but he didn't see it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=2082.92,2196.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, Well, then it wasn't obvious to him, right? Right. So, Mary, this happened five years ago. How old was your son? I'm sorry. 18. He was 18. Yes. And what changes? Well, this boy was a senior in high school. There were a lot of changes. He was buried in the suit that he bought for his prom. You know, you talk. I'm going to. I'm going to Dr. Regan to answer this question. And your question being, do they really mean to kill themselves? Wait, wait. 6062 year. And there are another 400,000 attempts. It's so hard to believe that these children intend to die. I you know, I can't. We've gone through therapy and we've the families. But what most of the family, how it shatters life is never the same. I'm sure death part for everyone, no matter what the cause. But when a child chooses to die, it is very hard to handle. And you're trying to believe, I guess, that you want to believe that he really didn't want to die. Is that believe it? I just wonder if this was some kind of to get attention. We're going to talk to Regan to ask you, Mary. All right. It's been my experience that at base, most children don't want to die. They want to change. They want to change their life. They want to exercise control. They want to do something to institute change. And they come to the conclusion that this is the only pathway to change. It's the only pathway to relief of the oppressive loneliness of of the pain and suffering that they've been experiencing internally. So it's usually a choice that they make out of multiple alternatives. That's why it's important to to communicate about it, to talk about it, to pick up the signs and aggressively intervene because most children don't want to, in fact, die.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=2198.18,2295.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They want to have things differently. Nancy, let me ask you, did you want to die? No. I did not want to die. I mean, when you started to to to slit your wrists, did you want did you know then you wanted. You were trying to die. I felt like I had asked for help from everybody and nobody had taken me seriously. And this would make them take me seriously. You knew you might succeed, or did you think that wasn't a possibility? I really didn't think it was a possibility. I think as a teenager I felt very immortal. I was just going to live forever. I think I think kids I think Jody, I know he didn't want to die. I really believe that. I think in many cases they feel that that they'll take this action and then they'll wake up tomorrow. And the pain and the problem that that put them on the edge of suicide will be gone and they'll go on living without that. They don't understand that it's forever. It's almost that it's fatal. If I try this, the pain and the hurt would go away. When in fact, it's a as I've said before, too often it's a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Mary, thank you for your call. Come on. You're on the air here on Channel 13. My name is Karen. Hi, Karen. Hi. Yes, I think it's really important for parents not to take on their teenagers actions as typical teenage behavior. I have a son. And by the way, the Baltimore County officials quote was probably correct. I have a son who is a student at Baltimore County Schools. On a number of occasions, they received calls about what was considered inappropriate behavior, but they were really signs of problem for this child.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=2295.65,2399.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think it's important to not wait for the child to talk about suicide, but to be concerned about any change in behavior, any kind of depression. And there are so many places where you can call and get help. And it's far better to take the child to get help first. Then to wait until something Caroline did. Did your child try to take his life? No, we have not yet. He has a pattern of people becoming depressed every other spring, which from a lot of discussions that have gone on lately, I understand is not abnormal for teenagers. But when they begin to become depressed, if they can't come to you, then find somebody they can talk to. They get them through whatever this depression is, whatever is causing it. Who does your child talk to you? Well, we have gone to say no conflict. And he has formed a relationship with a counselor there. And I don't know what they talk about because they won't tell me. But it seems to have helped, you know, in many cases, Richard. It's hard to talk to somebody that you love, somebody that's close to you. Because, you know, we build images for each other. Jodi and I had a real special relationship. We really did. That's not just looking back, wishing it were that way. But we we enjoyed being together. But we talked about the good things in each of our lives. So I think we tried to protect each other from the pain and problems and in each of our lives. And and we didn't talk about the problems. And I don't feel that Jody could come to me with his problems. And he thought he couldn't come to me. And I think he is is someone that that did need somebody outside the home so he could be free with it and not feel like he was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=2400.84,2507.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think maybe he thought he would be showing me or revealing to me that he wasn't the kid that he thought I wanted him to be, that maybe I would think less of him for not being able to handle his problems or all these things get in the way. And we we have to start at a very early age, I think, to let our kids understand and know that we can talk to them about anything and that we're not perfect. We we as parents are not perfect. We need help, too. And we understand that they can have problems, too, and we can all work together. But if we can't do it within the family unit, then we need to reach out. And we should not be ashamed to say we need help outside the family. Thank you for your call. We'll be back. Josephine was making a very interesting point during the break, and that is what my point is, that sometimes I think that a person who is contemplating suicide has not been thinking about it for a very long time. The two young men who just lost friends saw no signs in their friends that they were thinking about suicide. Everybody has pressures and stresses just as they do. And I think that they just got to the point where it was the straw that broke the camel's back. One more problem occurred. Maybe they got a D in the class. They thought they were getting a B or lost a girlfriend like Jodi did. Yeah. But just one more thing. Heaped on all the problems and stresses, they already have pushed them over the breaking point. What are they? Well, I think that's a good point. One of the things we didn't put on the warning signs was that the issue of losses and significant losses in the recent past or any social experience that, reduces self esteem and humiliate somebody, I think is also something that needs to be paid very close attention to disappointments, disappointment, losses.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=2508.28,2748.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If we can just get personal with you for just a moment. At 15 years of age, you two or the person killed and then you did you contemplate suicide? I was. I was. I guess the irony of my life is being asked to be the chairperson of the Governor's Task Force on Youth Suicide Prevention. And age 15, I was depressed and thinking very seriously about suicide. I told my mother, and the next thing I know, I was in a psychiatrist office, getting help. It was a quick response I had to do was mention that I was thinking about taking my life. My parents responded very, very quickly. They didn't even ask me if I wanted to go. They set up the appointment and I was there. The problem is, and I don't think that that's what the way the kids express it, they don't say that I've had it. I'm going to kill myself. I think they do it in other subtle ways that we don't pick up until it's it's too late. You have a question? Ms.. Baumann, how did you ever learn to cope with Joni's death? It was very difficult, and I think I'm still coping with it. It's not something that you ever get over, but I think one thing helped me through it, and that's the fact that I know how much I loved him. I have looked back and looked for answers so that I could learn from Jodi's death. But I never, ever questioned my love for him. And I may have made some mistakes, but they were well-intentioned. And also I have reached out for others and tried to make other young people see that that they do have something to live for. They may think they have nothing to live for at that moment, but that they do have something to live for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=2749.65,2836.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Are you asking this question just because you're worried that you won't be able to get ever get over this? You know. One thing I think we also let me quickly say you also have to come to the bottom line, that every person, young or old, is responsible for his or her own life. You can do as much as you can do. And then you have to say, I'm so sad and I am left with such pain at this loss. But we all are responsible for our own lives. And your friend was to you were going to make one comment, but you were saying that you didn't think you'd ever get over this. Why do you feel that way? It's just devastating. It's I mean, someone, a friend, a very good friend of yours just decides to end it all. And it's just unbelievable. You're right. Your life never changes. I mean, it never changes back to what it was. Because you have lost something very dear. And you do have to continually work at dealing with those kind of feelings because it's tragic. It's tragic when somebody gives up on their life and especially a young person. I like to say that everybody in your friends social field and in your social field is now vulnerable. In terms of your life trajectory. You may not become depressed in the next six months to a year, but five, ten years down the road, this will become a prominent alternative for you and will be prominent in your mind because of this intensive experience you've had now. Yeah, we have. We unfortunately, we have to stop here. And we want to thank you, Susan and Nancy, for being on the show. And guys, you were terrific. And I know how difficult this has been for you, too, and and for you to Bruce, for being on the program again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=2837.07,2942.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our hotline number for any parents or any kids that are out there, perhaps something's been jarred and we've we've created something that you need to find out more about. Call 4660 13 any time today. And we're going to give you a variety of numbers that you can call to get help. Now, what we're going to do now is clear the lines and come back with our phone question today, where you have an opportunity to express your feelings now, based on what you've heard Susan and Nancy and Dr. Regan and the guys say today, are you listening to your children? Do you feel that you're doing an adequate job of listening to your children? Call me now at 481 1313. We'll be back in just a moment. Thank. You have any? While staying in Baltimore. People are talking. Guests are chauffeured by Paramount Limousine Service. The best in show for care. I remember the call. We want to hear from you at 41, 3013. Do you feel you're listening to your children? Are you listening to your kids? This is Odessa. What do you feel? You. You have one child who's 18 and one who's older, but the 18 year old. You think you do a good job listening to your kids? Sometimes I feel as though I am. But there are times that my son has problems, but he will not convert with me. He will call someone else or he will tell another friend. But sometimes he just will not tell me exactly what is wrong with him. I have to pressure him. And after pressuring him, sometimes he'll tell me, Well, this is wrong, or. Well, when he was in school before he graduated, that he didn't do well on a certain subject or something like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=2943.33,3182.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it is hard to it's hard to be a good listener. It is this thing. And it's hard to pressure him in telling me sometimes in pressure and you get that allies. So it's not always good to pressure you. Sometimes you just don't know what to do. Okay. And, but I try to listen to all of the things that he is saying. And I decided to go back to school, take psychology to help me to interpret and learn what my channel is all about. Now you learn. Yes. Good. Thanks for that sound. We have some of you on the line now at 481 1313. And the question is, are you listening to your children? Caller What's your first name? Judy. Judy? Yeah. Do you feel you're listening? Your children? Ah, yeah. I feel like I am. And almost too much. What's that mean? Well, nowadays with shows like this and all these books and I read them all, it almost makes me paranoid. Every time I turn around, I'm going to say the wrong thing. I can't be natural in this. So in other words, you you say shows like this are making you overreact, you feel and listen to her. I don't think you can ever listen to our tool kit, though, do you? Well, not really. But to give you a for instance, right now I'm reading a book, How to Listen to Kids. So kids will talk and talk. So kids will listen. Right. A lot of the schools have been promoting this. Right. And it's very easy to do, but it's unnatural. Well, you need to really. Okay. Really be like this. I'm not sure that it is unnatural. I think it's just something we're not used to being very good at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=3182.85,3276.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How old are your children or your child? I have two children. One is for any other seven. Okay. Thank you very much for your call. 21. 13. 13. Are you listening to your children? Good morning. You're on the air, caller. Well, yes, I am very much now. My name is Barbara. Last year, when my son, teacher from school, called me and told me that they had very bad vibes on his of depression and fits of depression, that I should check into it. And when I sat him down and talk to him, he mentioned that he was very depressed and that he had tried, even, in fact, suicide, but failed. How did you feel? What did you name? Barbara. Barbara. How did you feel when you found that out? It really shook me. I mean, I. I didn't know which way to turn or I wanted to panic, but, thank heavens. Through the, the here and Dale Youth Center in Glen Burnie. He had been going there before for a minor drug problem. I took him right back to the counselors there, and they got me in tune with a, institution in Richmond. And my son went there for ten weeks. He kicked the drugs. He wanted to go. And now I'm very happy. And he said that this is the first summer that he will enjoy his life. Well, we appreciate your call. And I know you feel a lot better about that. Yeah, this show. What did the show do for you in terms of your awareness about this? It brought back a lot of things that I've learned in the past year. Because, I went through a lot of counseling. We are going through family counseling now, his aftercare program. And it was informed, very informative for others as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476#t=3276.54,3386.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80298/file/168476/transcript/70843/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it brought back a lot of things that I have learned. And I do want to say one thing that I have been been taught through the past year. You have to listen. You have to be there whenever. Whatever. No matter how bad they've done, what they've done wrong, broke the law. You've got stand behind them. Absolutely. That's a very good point to end on. Barbara, thank you very much. You want to tell you about tomorrow's program. You're going to meet four local women. Now, if you are a woman who is a professional or if you're thinking about getting out in the business world, you're going to meet four women who are in a variety of professions from advertising to medicine, and they are making it big here in Baltimore. They're going to give you some advice if you want to get outside and do something professionally. We're also going to have money wizard William Donohue, who's going to tell you how to perhaps plan your finances so that you can afford maybe to work on the outside and also help take care of your house. All of that tomorrow morning you're at 9:00. And don't forget, the hotline for suicide information is open now at 4660013. We'll see you tomorrow at nine. Bye bye. As yet. Okay. 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