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Hi, I'm Jackie. And I'm Betty Bentley. Could we get along without religion, without the prayer, the church, and the worship? Many individuals think so. They call themselves atheists and they believe in reason that there is no God. Today on City Line, we'll discuss the spread of atheist, especially in the black community. Joining us is Deborah Clarke of the American Atheist Society of Separation. Also joining us as a special audience guest is Father Carl Fisher of Saint Francis Xavier Catholic Church. We'll find out why atheists advocate separation of church and state and why many see religion as. It's 12 noon and this is City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie Hall. And I'm Betty Bentley. Who would get along without religion, without the prayer, the church and the worship? Many individuals think so. They call themselves atheists and they believe in reason that there is no God. Today on City Line, we'll discuss the spread of racism, especially in the black community. Joining us is Deborah Clarke of the American Atheists. Society of Separation is also joining us as a special audience guest is Father Carl Fisher of Saint Francis Xavier Catholic Church. We'll find out why atheists advocate separation of church and state and why many see religion as hypocritical in mere hype. The NAACP brings its national convention to Baltimore next week and Montero into the Honors Cup. We'll look at the focus of the convention. Do you remember the popular hit tunes Fool's Paradise? And once you get started by Chaka Khan and Rufus. Hi, I'm Harold Anthony with you. And today I introduce you to the lyricist of those songs as Gavin Christopher debuts his first solo effort, One Step Closer to You. Stay tuned for this special feature on today's edition of the Entertainment Page.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=30.0,140.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And join me today on City Lane in a special interview with Congressman William Gray, a Philadelphia Democrat who chairs the House Committee on the Budget. But first, blacks and atheists. I'm up next on City Line. Good afternoon and thanks for joining us for this edition of City Line. I think we're in for a very interesting discussion this afternoon. With us is Miss Deborah Clark, who, as I said, represents the American Atheists, Greater D.C., Greater D.C. chapter. Let's begin by making sure that we're speaking on the same terms and tell us what an atheist is. Yes, I need to tell you what an atheist is because dictionary definitions of atheism are usually written by theists. Atheism means without theism, the Greek prefix a meaning without theism, meaning the belief in a god or gods. That prefix might be familiar to you in the words asymmetrical a political means without. So I'm live without God beliefs. Okay. Have you always lived without God beliefs? Well, I was born atheist, as everyone was, and I remember my first indoctrination as a young youngster. I began to be indoctrinated into the Catholic faith. Now the doubts accumulated from the age of about five on. And then finally, as I reached my teen years, it sort of hit me that this especially Christianity, was a glorification of human suffering in the crucifixion of a human being being displayed all over the school. And I began to feel that there were other aspects which were not satisfying and that perhaps you should be an agnostic. And later on, as I couldn't bring myself, no matter how hard I tried to believe in a God, I had to admit to myself that I am an atheist and I've been much more relaxed ever since.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=141.85,291.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, so you made a rather blanket statement earlier. You said that we are all born as atheist. What do you mean by that? Well, I mean, we're all born without religion. We don't have religion until we're taught that there is. Or maybe a God looking down on us, judging all of our actions and that there's a hell and a life after death. And by the way, these concepts are not unique to Christianity. A casual and casual exploration in the library will show that hundreds of years before the Christian era, there have been prophets like such as Zoroaster, who said that there was a heaven and hell and an almighty always watching all of your actions. Allow, say, said, turn the other cheek and all of our values that work in society. Now, you said that you questioned early on five on and in your teen years it was also additional questioning. And you mentioned the term agnostic, which is merely flat. Well, agnosticism has a couple of different definitions. Spencer, I believe, uses the term to mean not knowing or not wishing to commit as to whether doubting that there is a deity. Yeah, I guess that's a way of saying it. It's a way of saying nothing really. I mean, when a person is asked, Do you believe in God? The agnostic, perhaps not believing in God, will say, I'm an agnostic, which that means without knowledge. Without knowledge. Yeah. Why do you think you passed over? You went from Christianity. Passing over the whole spectrum of agnosticism to atheism. What was it that, in quotation marks, sold you on becoming an atheist as opposed to an agnostic? What was the thing that sealed it for you in terms of your information and your beliefs? Well, I think two things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=291.66,410.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"First of all, no evidence that there is a God. And secondly, the evil influences of religion in society. I saw that most of the problems, the public issues were a quibbles, moral quibbles where none need exist. And today I think this the same thing's going on. What kind of example? And can you give us an example? What you mean? Well, a good a couple of good examples. One is the family. I was taught at first that the family is a basic unit of society. At the time I questioned, it isn't the individual, the basic unit of human society becoming units of one. And I get so tired of seeing the black people disparage because, oh, the women are the head of the household. And I don't see anything wrong with that in itself. There's nothing if that's the way it is. I don't see why we should be criticized for having a women head of household. And I think it's more and more normal all the time. But religion doesn't question that, does it? Oh, absolutely. In what sense? Well. In the main book that all of the Christians read the Christian ISM book known as the Bible. It stated many places. And if you want more information exactly where slavery is laid down in the Bible and where the patriarchy is demanded in the Bible, just write to the post office box. 231128. Washington, DC 2026. S. Our local chapter will send you if you'd like. We have an X-rated Bible where all the filth in the Bible about foreskins, incest, abuse, child abuse is all in here in the X-rated Bible. And you can see and consult with your own Bible. But it's there. We're going to get a little bit deeper into this issue, but we have to take a break right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=410.84,524.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We'll come back with Father Carl Fisher in just a minute. Please stay with us. So back on City Line with our guest, Debra Clarke, and we're talking about black atheist. We kind of laid down the premise of atheism and so forth. Now, those who believe in religion believe at the center of the universe or the center of whatever is a god, whatever name by which we call him that is at the center of your being, of your existence. And atheists exist? Yes. Well, I think my own consciousness is or is at the center. Myself is at the center. I perceive the world and I enjoy the world and I enjoy my life. Does that in any way give connection to what transpired before your being and what will transpire after your being? I know nothing of what happened before I was born, and I'm sure I won't experience death. So there's no connection to anything that preceded the only this life counts. And that is where religion is so detrimental to the black community. Religion demands attention to a higher force, a mythical higher force attention. Energy always be thinking of this higher force. It's very detrimental and distracting. It distracts our economic resources. It distracts our psychological resources. Religion demands that people recognize their sinfulness and their evilness, the implicit evilness of the human being. An atheist sees that all of our problems are solved by human reason, and we are able to solve all of our problems, and we might as well get cracking and do it. This prayer. Where you going to? I was asked. I was asking in terms of dealing with moral issues and so forth, what source or what authority do you tend to get your moral beliefs and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=525.22,792.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It doesn't take much common sense. We know what it takes to be a good citizen in this society. We already have secular laws to tell us that. But didn't those most of those secular laws grow out of religious doctrines? Those are the laws we must nullify. Those laws that say that that want to regulate human relationships ought to be nullified. Laws that demand we take oaths to a higher authority don't allow for a pluralistic society. That's that's the whole point of separation of state and church to allow for individuals to live according to the law and still keep their various different beliefs. Now we see a trend now where a certain religious rightists want everyone to live just as they do in their narrow set of lifestyle. And I don't think it's fair and I don't think it allows for a plural society. Now, you think that atheism then is the answer for black people? It certainly is. Why? Why do you believe, though, that religion has held black people back? Hasn't it always been the foundation in the black community in Maryland? In 1695, the first laws were passed to prohibit black people from assembling. And by 1809, blacks were allowed to assemble under the supervision of a white person. By 1843, those laws said that all blacks could worship under the supervision of a white person. Now, this took out all the possibilities of different societies. Drama societies in Baltimore was a little more liberal. They says, okay, you may have your meetings, but under the supervision of a policeman who will report to the mayor. By 1946, after I imagine black people decided, Oh yeah, well, we're going to make so many societies, you won't be able to keep track of us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=792.59,913.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The law was passed. No social clubs, no moral society, no drama. How does that speak to the churches holding back blacks? I'm saying that for a long time, church was the only alternative. It's inhibited our development in other areas, scientific areas. Well, and the churches certainly didn't put up much of a fight. They want black people to be submissive and obedient, and so do these religious rights they want. They're afraid of human, individual individuality. They're afraid of what might happen. They think humans are are wild animals. They think humans are not capable of living in society. As mentioned, we've been joined in the studio audience by Father Carl Fisher and politician. I'd like to ask you, considering a lot of a lot has been said, but if you could direct yourself to some of the discussion that. So far from the Catholic Church's point of view. First of all, I'd like to mention that the reason I'm in the audience and not up on the set is because Miss Clark objected to my being seated up there. I think that in itself indicates that Ms.. Clarke does have some sense of moral code or some kind of values that she would, in effect, deny really existed. I think she made the statement that people are born atheists. I think that we can see from human reason that that is not true. It is so innate within the human person, within the human personality that there is an awareness of God within the universe in the very Sunday school. Why do we need church? We already have it. You're saying we don't need these sermons. We don't need the word to tell us how to live. We've already got it. I don't think that the very fact that a man can know of the existence of God from human reason is the point I'm making.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=913.46,1031.069"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The whole meaning of agnosticism is the fact that agnostics feel that we cannot demonstrate from reason the existence of God. Persons who possessed minimal rational thinking ability can come to a conclusion that God does indeed exist. It is innate within the human personality. From the very point of reason and come to realize that there is an order in the universe that if you don't mind, I'm speaking for me. But of course, order in the universe exists. Natural laws exist. It does not and obviously mean that God necessarily created that order. I can look at a flower and say, Isn't it beautiful? A God must have made it. That is jumping to conclusions. 40 hours did it. That flower, then that flower grew from that flower, grew from a seed. And where did the seed come from? From the seed came from the parent of the flower. And where did that come from? I don't know. Obviously you don't know. That's exactly your problem. I'm not going to make up stories about it. I'm going to admit that I don't know the answer. And I'm going to continue to explore this world and find out. The great Greek writer Socrates said the beginning of wisdom is the admission of ignorance. So I'm happy to hear that. You don't know. I think that we have many sources, those of us who believe in God, to certainly support and to deepen what we know is the fact that God does indeed exist. We know from divine revelation the person, the historical person, Jesus. Would you be the historical person of Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ is not historical person. Father, please. The main issue, but usually is Do you believe in there is that the irrational beliefs of religion should not be foisted upon all citizens? You're free to believe if you like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=1032.42,1149.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, I do not wish to live under your narrow codes of lifestyle, which says that I must have a man over me to support me, which says that I am a sinner and not worthy of perfection, not even worthy of striving to even think of trying for it. Not to believe that this world is coming to an end. And it doesn't matter. When black people have rage, the church suppresses that rage, it says, Except that's wrong. Black people's rage should be channeled to changing the conditions that cause injustice. And I really resent the attempt of religion is to to suppress. Okay. I feel I come back to this and just we do have to take a break. Certainly. Stay with us. We'll be right back. Now, here's this week's community calendar. Hello. My name is Juanita Sowden. The Douglas High School class of 1966 announces its 20th year reunion activities on Saturday, August 16. There will be a dinner dance at Martins Champagne on Botafogo Avenue from 10 p.m. to 2 a.m., featuring a buffet dinner and continuous music. No tickets will be sold at the door on Sunday, August 17th. Pep Kelly will be the guest speaker at a special memorial service at Berean Baptist Church at 3 p.m.. But tickets to the dance or for further information, please call now at 9220921. Hello, my name is from the walls of the Michael Jackson Museum. We will be holding our second annual Freedom Baby contest on Sunday, July six, at the City Temple Baptist Church, Jutras Sons and Daughters. At 1 p.m., we are still accepting entries from interested palettes. The public is invited to attend the contest. To register for baby or for further information, call the Military Jackson Museum at 5231208. If your group, the organization, would like to announce an event, please write us in care of City Line WJC TV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland 212, one one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=1150.68,1550.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or call us for further information at 4660013. Between the hours of nine and five. Okay, we're back. The subject is black ape ism. And just before the break, we heard from a father, Carl Fisher and Father Fisher. I'd like to ask you a question. One of the things that Deborah Clarke said was that religion is an inhibitor to the black community, meaning that it pretty much holds black people back. This has been a contention that's been held through the years, through the ages, that the religion is an opiate of the people. How do you respond to that? First of all, I would totally deny that true religion. There have been many sins committed in the name of religion. And I think that every Christian person would be the first to admit that. But the whole concept of a religion, the whole concept of a loving relationship with a God is designed to free the human person. It is not designed to suppress. It is not designed to hold people back. It is designed to enable man to very naturally respond to the full fulfillment of his human potential. And we are guided in that because of the fact that man is not perfect. We have that behind us. We have another for men, and that is the fish and women. That is the forces of God, men and women, to be human, to find the truth and not encourage response. The church is not a group of clubs which are politically active. You know, with all due respect to you, you know, one of the things that you're guilty of doing, I use the word guilty, especially with regards to you, is the fact that you are preaching your own moral code, trying to impose your own sense of values.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=1551.05,1668.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm on the right time to lay that guilt that you're not sure the way you make your life. Excuse me, miss, May I interject? And I'm wondering whether or not I'm hearing something here. You have a set of beliefs. You have a set of beliefs. But she denies beliefs. Excuse me, Father. Is there a slight intolerance from both ends here of one other? Have you ever seen an atheist on a religious talk show? Is there a certain intolerance? Have you ever seen? The interesting thing is that we are diametrically opposed. She says there is nothing. Do you see? We know there is a God blamed in the media. Okay. There is intolerance here and it's not on my part. It's on the part of the religious establishment which censors. And another thing is this is a more unhealthy attributes of religion, that unhealthy attitude about sex. Is there really a reason to ban nudity? Is there really a reason that people can't be educated about birth control? We should want to know everything there is to know about our bodies. Why should it be so dirty? The Bible calls sex dirty. If you want the X-rated Bible right to the post. We kind of go back and read it. I think those dirty skins, the dirty sex rape, it's all in the Bible. Now, let's talk about the term. Is it not? You have a sense of values and not a chicken. She has slavery upheld in the Bible. Why do you think the South Africans get away with what they. Let's do this. Why don't we give a few seconds to wrap up and a few seconds to wrap up this end of it? And let's try to move on to a few more issues.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=1668.79,1774.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is still outstanding, Father Fisher. First of all, it's interesting that Miss Clark obviously is pushing her own code of standards while denying that she's doing that very thing I haven't seen by food standards. Interesting thing about my code of standards. Interesting. You have plenty of opportunity to expound. I don't. And I insist on clarifying my position. I'm not the only black atheist in history. It's interesting. The lack of respect that is obviously evident with us is do I think in part because of the fact that if one does not believe in God, that one is not bound to common standards of decency and respect, that I'm not bound to come down? There is nothing here. There is no motivation to do anything that is right. I am abiding city, no consequence of care about my fellow human beings. How can you say I have no standards? Slander. That's what it is. You don't know my standards. You don't know my values. You do. All the content that you have for me is so evident. And that speaks louder. I must speak louder. You have the floor. Thank you, Father, for all the time you had in you. Any other points that. Well, I'd like to mention that an interesting area of exploration would be you obviously take issue. You're very. You're very young. I disagree. Yes, I religiousness have a tendency to categorize atheists and say, oh, they have no standards, they have no morals. You can't live without the word of God. It's not true. Ethics. That's at the base. The basic ethics is a system of deciding what is valuable and how human conduct. Now, let me ask you productive. Why should blacks find atheism appealing? That would what would blacks find an atheist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=1774.81,1889.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What it would do would take people away from the destruction of religion. It would take people. It would allow people to concentrate their energies on self-improvement, not worship an outside imaginary deity. We need to concentrate our efforts in our own selves and our own community, thinking and participating in the political process. Our viewpoint is valuable. Okay, that being said, S.W. viewpoint is valuable, but I as black people, I seem to sense that the intolerance goes beyond mere antagonism between you, atheists and believers in God, and not being willing or able to accept them having their beliefs. And you have. It's not atheists who burn Christians. It's the other way around. Christians burn and harass atheists. You could have advertised in college bulletin boards that there would be an atheist. Welcome to talk that would have been taken down because the church does not teach people how to be good American citizens. The church does not teach people to allow for diversity in society. Okay. We're going to take a question from home, someone who'd like to talk with you. Hi, Paula. CALLER Hello. You're on the air. You can go ahead now. Yes, I was wondering. Okay, sorry. Miss Clark mentioned that what where she came from is not to a point. And I was wondering how she feel about that which they she's going to go. When I die, the blood will stop circulating in my brain. I will be unconscious. Eventually. All of the life processes will stop. My heart will stop, my breathing will stop, and I will not be able to think anymore. I will be unconscious soon. All right away. I medicate You Don't look forward to any future after death. Absolutely not. There's nothing to look forward to. Oh, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=1889.92,2004.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm here now. And this is the main, main show here. Okay. Thank you. I have one more statement. Just a statement to make, please. Okay. Percent with people believing in what they can't see or believe in, it's something that's not there. I do see that God is a title. Okay? You have to believe that it's a supreme being, okay? I have to believe that. I believe. Oh, yeah. The rest of you happen to be you. Human beings are supreme. See, human being. It's a supreme being on this planet. Human beings have control of the planet. Now we are the supreme beings. You must not be. This is a day in December. Okay? No call caller the end of October. You put on your coat because something hits your skin that you don't see. You see the effect, you don't see it. You don't see where it's coming from. But you put on a cold because you feel it. You have to feel better. It is something here higher than me. Why do I have to feel that? Thank you for the call. Okay. Bye bye. Why do I have to feel that I. One last question. How did you get here? Well, my parents got together. Got one? How did they get here? Their parents? Okay. Yeah, like they or might have been the after. How did your family roots start? Human beings evolved, just like all lifeforms on Earth. That's as much as we know now. Life evolved from the muck of the of the Earth video. Yeah. Deborah Clark, thank you so much. Thank you. You have indeed excited us the thinking. And I'd like to refer to two magazines that are published by the American Atheists. And the magazine is entitled American Atheist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=2005.56,2105.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you like further reading, try to look these up. Thank you for coming by, City Line. Thank you. We're going to take a break now and go to Tea Month here in the NEWSROOM. Good afternoon. Topping today's news cap, when the ACP convenes its national convention here in Baltimore next week, nearly 20,000 people are expected to attend. But what will be the convention objective? What are those people expected to live with? Joining me now to discuss the overall focus of the convention is Felicia Kessel, national public relations director for the NAACP. Ms.. Cassel, thank you for joining us this afternoon. Thank you. What is the focus of the NAACP convention? Our theme this year is building toward one society. And we hope that when people leave this convention, they will have a better sense of the NAACP, the work that it has done that it continues to do, and they understand what they are about and what this society needs to still work on. For our viewers specifically, what kinds of topics will be covered at the convention? How is the convention structured? All right. Well, there are several parts of the convention. The convention takes place June 29th through July 3rd, five days. We have plenary sessions going on all of those five days where our delegates from our 2200 units across the country come to meet plan strategies and take votes on what will the NAACP agenda be for the future. We have speakers, very prominent speakers coming in to advise us on the most important and pertinent issues. Those are open to the public and we have people coming in like Gary Hart, like your governor here, and the mayor from Washington, D.C., a number of people, both local and national, to advise us and inform us of these issues.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=2106.05,2318.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In addition, we have the commerce and industry show that is where over 300 corporations put up displays and exhibits where people come through and sample their products. They have a chance to talk with representatives from these corporations. It's a very exciting part of our convention. And in addition, we have workshops in all of the program areas of the ACP. There is our AXO competitions, which is our youth competitions, a whole lot going on. Plenty of food and local vendors will be able to exhibit their products where you will find particularly ethnic products that you cannot find in other areas except during our convention most of the time. You mentioned structuring an objective for the future. How has the mission of the NAACP changed over the years? I do not believe that the mission has changed. I think what has happened is that we've moved into an implementation phase, meaning that during the sixties of course, we were sitting and we were boycotting. We were marching in order to get laws down on the books to protect our rights and move us toward full citizenship implementation now, and that is to maintain those rights. The recent five years there has been a rollback, so it is not dramatic what you see. It is not something that the media can show you on television. However, it must be done. Our lawyers continue to work with the courts to maintain those rights. There are those who would question the validity of the NAACP today, 1986. For those people who show no special concern for the special interest, those people who possibly should. How do you address the questions? I'd like them to come down to the convention. We've always had people who have questioned the validity of the NAACP.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=2319.2,2432.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, we stand by our record. We have over 450,000 members. We are here for 77 years and we continue to be here and expect to always be here until, of course, we have full citizenship for everyone. One particularly interesting aspect of the convention will be the combination of the March for Human dignity in South Africa. You mentioned to me earlier that the ACP has been in the forefront of the situation in South Africa in terms of its concern. Tell us a little bit about that march for human dignity. This year, our voter education Department, under the direction of Joe Madison, has launched a march across the country. We've had several marches before. None of this extent starting from California and culminating here at this year's convention. These are a core group of marchers. They represent mothers, children, students, the dispossessed, walking across the country and motorcade in order to emphasize the importance of the votes. This is what we've worked for so hard. We do this also to bring attention to our brothers and sisters in South Africa who are without the vote, without. Our participation in the voting process. Nothing will take change. Nothing will. Nothing will happen. So this is why we are doing this. We have been in the fight since 1911 with South Africa trying to work out Africa's problems. So we feel that this definitely is something this year that is of tantamount importance for anyone who would like more information on the convention or on the march. Is there a number that they can call? Yes, they can call area call it 3013588 900. That is the national headquarters main information number. And they can reach me at that number if they ask for. Felicia Cassell, Alicia Cassell, National public relations director for the NAACP.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=2433.86,2546.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Welcome to Baltimore and thank you for joining us this afternoon. Thank you, Auntie Monte. And that is today's news. Get more satellite up next. Have a good afternoon. So. Okay, that was an exciting discussion that we had. And of course, the information that Montague brought to us is very good as well. You have a special report. You interviewed Congressman William Grimm. That's right. Not too long ago. It is my pleasure to meet him in his office and have a chance to talk with him. Looking forward to your report. While it may seem for black Marylanders that they're losing the most important voice they have in Congress when apparent Mitchell retires from Washington. There are other black congressmen who are similarly strident in their efforts to represent minority interest. One of them is Congressman William Gray, a four term Democrat representing Philadelphia's second District. The 49 year old Baptist minister quickly earned the esteem of his colleagues, something that is evident by his election to the chairmanship of the pivotal House Committee on the Budget. Traditional accolades aside, the most telling compliment Gray has received is that of being mentioned in more than a few quarters as a potential future presidential nominee. I had a chance to talk with Congressman Gray recently in Washington, just before his budget committee began final discussion of the 1987 federal budget. Congressman Gregor, a fourth term congressman from the state of Pennsylvania. You're serving on one of the as chairman of one of the most important House committees that on the budget. How is it possible to represent black interests while having to represent such overall interests as a whole country on a budget committee? Well, it's very easy. Black interests are no different from human interests. And so therefore, in the budget process, when I'm determining how much money there will be for all the housing programs in America, I'm affecting black people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=2547.64,2729.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm affecting public housing. But public housing is not relegated to black people. And one of the great this is that, you know, there are black folk issues. There are issues of people that have a disproportionate impact upon certain groups. And so, therefore, when you look at public housing, one of the myths is that black folk, that's their issue. The majority of people who live in public housing in America are not black. The white people on welfare in America are not black. They're white. The average welfare recipient in America is an 18 year old white woman, 18 to 22 with two children. Now, of course, in many of our major cities like mine, Philadelphia or Baltimore or New York, when you think of somebody on welfare, you think of somebody black because that's what you see. But what you don't recognize is there's another 80% of America that's not represented by big cities. And there are people there on welfare. And those people are white. So thus, when you affect welfare, there would be those in Philadelphia or Baltimore who would say, hey, that's a black issue and you're affecting us in a real sense. It's not because the majority of people on welfare. White. So you're affecting people who are low income and need some support. The same thing is true with health care, nutrition, education, etc. There are very few programs in the federal government that are, quote, directed only at blacks. Your name is appeared on a number of lists as a prospective presidential candidate. Is that something that you foresee as is happening sometime in the future? Oh, I'm flattered by all of that mentioned. But, you know, I'm from North Philadelphia and North Philadelphia. As an old basketball player, I've been taught.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=2730.75,2837.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You play one game at a time. Don't look at the next game or next month's game. You better worry about today's game. And I've got a big job as chairman of the Budget Committee, and that is putting together $1,000,000,000,000 budget, setting the priorities of the nation, how much we're going to spend in education, whether or not we're going to go along with the Ronald Reagan approach to fiscal priorities. We want to eliminate urban mass transit. We want to eliminate you dead grants. We want to eliminate programs like the SBA that helps minority business, where he wanted to eliminate and cut back programs like job training, the Job Corps, where you cut back by 30%, Pell Grants that are directed at economically, socially disadvantaged students to go to Howard University, to Morgan State or to Johns Hopkins poor kids. Many of them happen to be black. A lot of them also are white. When you sit in this chair, you can write a budget that says, No, Mr. President, we're not going to make those choices. There are other choices. And so I'm just trying to play this one as well as I can and do it as good a job as possible and and really change this fiscal policy that is, I think, distorting what the values and the principles of America are. Let's switch gears for a second. Let's talk about foreign affairs. Give me a report card on the Reagan administration, specifically about North Africa. We've got an absolutely disastrous policy there, which is a policy called constructive engagement, which I basically call here no evil, see no evil, and speak no evil about racial apartheid in South Africa and which basically supports the apartheid oppression, the racial oppression of the 27 million majority by 4 million minority.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=2838.6,2957.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that is disastrous for our interests economically, strategically in that region of the world, but also in terms of the geopolitical consideration of East versus West. It sends the message that the United States is willing to light candles, and rightfully so, for those oppressed in Poland. But we're not willing to strike a match for those oppressed in South Africa. The United States, rightfully so, is willing to speak out against the oppression of a Sakharov and a sharansky. And thank God Anatoly Sharansky is free today. However, we won't raise our voice with the same vigor, the same volume with regard to the oppression of Nelson and Winnie Mandela. And what that does is it sends a signal to the rest of the world that we have two standards for human rights. One, if you're from Europe and one if you're from South Africa and you happen to be black, that is a disastrous policy that has deep implications not only for South Africa, but for all of Africa, for all of Asia, and for all of Central and Latin America, which we must correct. And I don't think Americans, not just black Americans, but all Americans, don't want their bank loans, their companies, their universities investing in a system that has that kind of oppression. Bilbray exudes a certain confidence as he discusses the issues and his opinions on a variety of subjects are much sought after by his colleagues on both sides of the aisle. My heavens, that was a beautiful day. A lot to say, a lot of things say about Parren Mitchell and a lot of important things to say about the budget. You did a good job. Thank you. I enjoyed that. We're going to take a break and come back with the entertainment page.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=2958.72,3064.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So please stay with us. I have never. Hi, Harold. Anthony here. Gavin Christopher was born into a musical family in Chicago. His father was a jazz drummer and his uncles all sang and his mother filled the house with gospel singing. Gavin started joining in on a stack of telephone books at the age of three. After some time singing and acting in variety shows, he began playing in bands around town. And one group he met with another young singer whose name just so happened to be Chaka Khan. And together, they formed the group Life, which ended quickly just after it had gotten started. Gavin eventually spent a couple of years at the University of Wisconsin, where he studied music and women. Gavin himself wrote several songs for Rufus, in addition to a number of hit songs for Herbie Hancock, including You've Got Stars in Your Eyes, on which he sang lead vocals. One Step Closer to You is Gavin's most recent endeavor and was produced by Aaron Rodgers and Carl Sturgeon, the team responsible for writing Stephanie Mills a stand back and for writing and co-producing Jennifer Holidays just a matter of time, given this records impressive, confident stylistic range as well as Christopher's rich, soulful vocals, it's quite evident that this will be the first of many popular releases. Here's Gavin Christopher with one step closer to you. Judge for yourself. First. Me. We. Gave. Oh, my goodness. I'm afraid. Come and get him. 300 and. Kelly. Oh, yes, your love. I have never. No situation. And. You seem to me to be. You. Since. Do wish. You get, you get. You. You know, it's. That was Gavin Christopher with his latest release, One Step Closer. You know, the single has already made it up to number five on the R\u0026B charts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=3065.09,3549.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not bad for a beginning, huh? Well, for those of you who are appreciative of ballet, the finest troupe of dancers in Europe on their way to our area, the Paris Opera Ballet, under the artistic direction of Rudolf Nureyev, will appear at the Kennedy Center Opera House for a one week engagement. July 27th, July 22nd, pardon me, through July 27th. Internationally acclaimed for its impressive roster of premiere dancers and supportive Corps de Ballet, the 85 member company will be making its very first Washington appearance and we will dance. Rudolf Nureyev has full length Swan Lake with four sets of the company's illustrious dancers. For more information, call area code 2022543696. And it's showtime in Baltimore, and the curtain is about to rise for the 16th summer. For the 16th summer season of On Stage Downtown, the area's premier outdoor theatrical attraction, eight weeks of showstopping musicals will be performed by local theater companies every Tuesday night from June 24th through August 12th. As on stage downtown moves to its new location in War Memorial Plaza, New York City Hall, all performances are free and begin promptly at 8 p.m. for more information. Phone 7528632. And with that, I have to say goodbye until next week. I'm here on Anthony, hoping you all have a great Sunday. And one of the things I can say today is that this has been a hot show, the video, But the discussion then. Wow. At any rate. If you'd like additional information on black atheists, there is a dial and atheist number. It's 703, which is Virginia 2804321. Dial an atheist. Okay. And on the other side of the coin, the Baltimore gospel greats competition is about to close up, so you better get your entries in. There are three categories one for small ensembles, soloists, male and female, as well as choirs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266#t=3549.99,3676.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105505/file/206266/transcript/48912/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The preliminaries will be held July 15, 16, 14, 15 and 16 or something like that. Something like that. But at any rate, the prizes are $200 for soloist or $100 for small ensemble and $7 for choir. And the winner will appear on City Line July 20th and will be the opening act for Andre Crouch at Pier six. And very important, that deadline. The deadline is July 11th, and you must have entries in by then. For more information, call 7275580 or 4443168. And this is our last live show. We will go into summer reruns with the best of city line with survivors and time of the season. That's me. That's our show. 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