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We're live on City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie Hall. And I'm Betty Bailey. What happens when a successful lawyer marries an Army lieutenant or a doctor marries a nurse? Do they decide to marry until death? Do they part? Are they constantly juggling their two careers and their marriages? Are they on City Line? We'll find out what happens when couples try to keep work and love together. Joining us are the Watsons and the Stokes, as both will share their trials and tribulations of the two career marriage. Providing decent, affordable housing for low income Baltimoreans. I'm teen mom, tear and down news camp. We take a look at an ambitious program that addresses that issue. Herald Anthony here. Ever wonder what happened to the group Shalamar? Well, I'll update you on one of the founding members when I return with Jody Watley on today's entertainment based. Also today on City Line, we'll get an update on city lines weight loss challenger for soon. Colbert determined to take off over 300 of his £500. The show will tell us what success he's had over the past six months. But first, we'll explore the two career marriage. This and more here live on City Line. And good afternoon and welcome to another edition of City Line. We went through a whole year's worth of weather this week. This is the weirdest thing, isn't it? Last week we were out bathing in the sun and this week we were almost ready to shovel some more. I know. And I'm feeling the results of it, too. I think I took off too fast, and now I have to put it back on. And I'm catching a cold. We want to ask what we took off this week. We are talking about a subject that I guess we've touched on before but never really looked at directly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=115.13,245.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is two career marriages. And we have two lovely couples with us today that are going to share with us some of their experiences and give us an idea of what it's like to share two different walks of life or places to go in the morning. Starting from left to right is Lieutenant Claude Lotts. Next is his wife, Vicky. Blue Watch is an attorney. And seated next to her is Dr. John Stokes, an M.D. and finally, Deidre Stokes, a registered nurse. Welcome to City Life. You're still together. I mean, that in itself these days is a major plus. Well, tell us a little bit about how you two managed to keep things going. Well, basically, our our morning starts early. I'm usually gone by five every morning. And when I get to work, I usually call her just to check, make sure she gets up. And what we do is we just try to spend as much time as we can together whenever the time is available, because the day is pretty long. We usually get home about seven, 730, and before you know it, it's time to go to bed again and get up tomorrow, next day, to go to work. So spending as much time together as possible and try and make that quality time. But Vickie, is it a major juggling act, though, trying to keep marriage and job and all of your own personal needs in tow and in order? Yes, it is. It doesn't seem like there are enough hours in the day, but as Claude says, our days begin early and we usually get home around 730. I come straight in and cook cut. And before you know it, it's time to go to bed. So we really don't get to spend that much time together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=246.01,348.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And sometimes if I have meetings in the evenings, I'm going to get home maybe ten, 1030, or he may have some commitments with the military. So sometimes I feel like I'm really not getting to see him or talk to him as much as possible. So he does call me or I'll call him. So we try to fit it in where we can. You know, John and Deirdre, while both of you are involved in medicine, I understand you don't work anywhere near each other. No, not a nice place to centers on opposite ends of town. I would think that the biggest advantage that we have is that we can indeed relate to what the other one is going through. So a good bit of what I can discuss in the afternoon. She understands I don't have to explain the inside part of what I'm trying to say to her. Mm hmm. And did you know you said it jokingly before, but do you really think that it's better that you don't work together? I do. Well, thank you. Because you really do need some time away from each other. And when you get back together, you you do tend to enjoy that time a little bit more. And then when you work together, you see other side, you know, And when you work together as doctor, nurse, that's he's usually the boss and you're not the complete opposite from what it is at home. So I don't know how that you know, I don't know how that will work because we've never really done it before. So it's kind of best that, you know, that we don't exactly work that close together. At least a mystery. We're going to invite our home audience into our conversation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=349.78,435.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Call us at 481 13, 13. If you have questions or experiences you'd like to share with our guests today. Now, let me ask, what do you do? You deliberately decide to divide up housework, for instance, so that the two of you are working outside of the home. But when you get back to your base of operation in your home, do you decide that one will cook and one will clean and one will mark it and so forth? That's exactly how we do it. We'll sit down and she said, okay, I'll cook. You wash the dishes, you take care of the yard, I'll take care of the inside. It wasn't always that way. Well, it's gotten to that point because at times you say, I'm doing everything. What are you doing as well? I'm washing the car or you're watching TV, especially during this time of year. Whether it works out, where it comes to be about 5050, I do most of the shopping for the groceries. I'll go over to the commissary and do the shopping. She'll stay at home and clean out. We'll get back then I have to put everything away. And if there's a sink full of dishes, I have to wash the dishes. It works out with 5050. Now we want to hear what John has to say since the mail is getting his part of the housework. It's an unwritten law that whoever does the cooking does not have to do the dishes. I don't think it's fair to have to cook and do the dishes. So, yeah, most of the time the. I will do because slyly that gives me a chance to sit in the basement listening to music while the clothes are being watched. And the yard is basically my responsibility.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=436.22,524.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And do you handle the bills? And that works out satisfactory? Well, basically, John has no demands, so it's not. My dinner has to be ready by the time I get home. And, you know, I expect the bid to be made and I expect all the laundry to be done. So it works out very well. But neither one of us like to clean, so it's real nice that both of us work, so we have someone else do that. So that helps out tremendously because I've always been in school all the way through our marriage in addition to working full time. Well, we're going to find out a little bit more about that housework division. But we're going to take a break right now. We'll be back in just a minute. Stay with us. The two career marriage? Can they do they work right? Can they slash do they work? And are couples who are here to tell us whether or not they do work and do work? Well, do you ever get I'm going to throw this to the guys right now. Do you ever get a little resentful of the fact that your wives have jobs outside and maybe at one time or another doing quite well and maybe better than you yourselves? No, no. I have no problems with that at all. No, I'm happy that she's out there. I've wanted a woman who wanted a career, want to be independent, do things on our own, you know, have dreams, aspirations. And plus, she makes a lot of money, so I'm not. What about you? By the same token, I was. I was looking for a woman who was going to be relatively independent, who was going to be able to go out and do for herself, because that then removes a lot of the responsibility of the financial things that she wants to do from me that make if she wants to go out and buy a clothing or has a place that she wants to go, some she wants to do free to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=525.29,723.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me flip it. Vicky, do you ever get a little resentful of the fact that you may have two jobs, that you work outside and inside? Well, sometimes I think about it and I say, Gee, I'm getting tired of spending my only day, my Saturday doing housework. But for example, this Saturday I had a meeting to go to and Claude's parents were coming over and I didn't want the house to be messed up. So I asked him. I said, Well, will you please clean up while I'm gone for the meeting? And he consent. And I was amazed when I got back home how he normally doesn't do well. No, and no, I'm not saying that I don't want to get in trouble. He'll never do it again. Deirdre Oh, well, it's interesting that I enjoy. I, I've enjoyed nursing to a point and I enjoy getting out there. I'm enjoying also right now that I work four days a week, so it gives me another day off. But since being off, you know, I'm taking a class. There's always something to do going to the doctor. So I'm still very, very busy and I like the activities and I love the independence. We've asked us audience at home to join us and see what they have on their minds. Hello, you're live on City Line. Yes, I'd like to know. I am a chemist and I often contemplate a lot about think about marrying into the profession. I'd like to know, have either other couples thought about marrying into that another professional beforehand? There you go. Did you give any conscious thought beforehand into marrying another professional? Yeah, I hadn't really thought of it specifically, but if I were going to particularly look for a professional, I did want someone who was at least interested in a portion of medicine because there's an awful lot of what I come home burn out about that I can't explain to another person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=723.82,841.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's something that you have to kind of experience to understand you. You didn't marry into the same profession because you did marry professionals. Was that conscious? Mhm. No, not really, no. No, I, I think just the opposite that I am glad that I'm not married to another attorney. I think that we'd really be going to blows, you know. But it's true that another attorney would understand some of the things, but it's also good to have a mate who is not in the profession, for example, and may come home. And I want to try out a jury argument too, Claude. And as a layperson, he can give me that perspective. Another attorney might be too analytical about it. And so it's good to have someone who is not in the same profession as a mate. I played judge quite a bit. I was sitting there and she'll say, just just let me present my argument and I just go guilty, guilty, just as irritating. But John and Deirdre, do you find, though, that because you are somewhat in the same field, that perhaps you are a little too enmeshed in it too often? No, because yeah, for us, it's a large part of your life. It's a large part of what you do. You unfortunately cannot turn it off because of the kind of profession that it is. So a lot of it does come home to you. And I, you know, I have dated people that were not in the medical profession. And in order to get to the meat of the story, you have to bring them from A to say M, and then you can go to justice, which is, you know, and it takes a much longer time. And by that time you the point it's just not worth making the point about why the story you write my saying and there have been times that we've would have had plans to go somewhere at a certain time, you know, And I was coming home and there was an accident, you know, and I stop.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=842.2,949.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she understands that because I don't stop being a doctor when I'm not at work. Okay. Let's go to our phones again. Hello. You live on City Line? Yes. My question is my wife and I are having. Problems. Due to the fact that while one one of the major problems is I work seven days a week and not by choice and we argue a lot over nit picking stuff, you know, over nothing really. And she has more or less decided to leave me and won't talk about it. And one of the problems is lack of communication. How could we go about trying to remedy that situation? And she's blaming hearsay from from other people saying that I'm running around on her and and stuff to that effect. Well, let me let me ask the caller question first. Do you have can you and your wife disagree? Can you agree to disagree without coming to blows or going for each other's throats? Can we. Can you disagree with what she says or she disagree with what you say and you still be friends about it? That that's the key to the communication idea. Everybody says communicate. But if you express an unpopular idea, any other person jumps down your throat. The lines of communication are closed instantly and that that part doesn't work. Well, a lot of times I bring my work home, which I shouldn't because I'm in the printing profession and she's in the she's a nurse's aide. Okay. Well, no, I'm sure that we're not professionals here on the matter, but what sorts of things would you suggest if you saw that type of situation perhaps arising with you, if you weren't seeing enough of each other, if you weren't communicating, what would you do to kind of correct that? Well, one thing I would do now, I don't have a situation where I have to work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=949.9,1058.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have to go into the office seven days a week. But what I do is I have meetings a lot of times and I have to bring work home sometimes if there is a meeting that I'm scheduled to attend and I know that it's not vital, then I just say, Hey, I want to spend time with my husband. This is more important. And so you have to learn how to budget your time and cut certain things out that aren't vital. And that's one of the ways and another way you might laugh, but if they're really having those kind of problems, they might need a neutral third party such as a marriage counselor, to be a sounding board and get some feedback that way and call her again. As Betty said, we're really not in the position to offer advice over the air because we really don't have enough details, nor are we qualified to do it. But something that Klotz said you may want to consider, it has to do with quality time with your mate. It may not be five days out of seven, but perhaps the time you do spend is of a quality nature which allows you to just simply enjoy each other. And the other part of it is to seek a neutral party for advice. If you're willing to do that, we hope that you're still listening and we wish you the best in that. Let's try another call from home. Hello. You're live on satellite. Yes, hi, This is Mr. Joyner. This question is for Dr. Dr. Stokes. I want to say that Dr. Stokes is an excellent, excellent doctor. Mr. Joyner Tatum. Folks, you remember. Yes, indeed I do, sir. And if I know he's good and in hospital, in the clinics, and I know he's just as good as at home, so his minister says, Yes, you're right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=1058.57,1162.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. Mr. Stokes, Do you want to elaborate on what happened? You can do so. Oh, thank you, Bishop. These are excellent, Doctor. And he definitely deserved the Channel 13 award. Okay, but that I took care of this gentleman one night when I was moonlighting. Emergency up at Provident Hospital. An interesting story that I can't really say anything about, even with his permission, because it is indeed privileged information. Okay. Okay. We're going to continue our conversation on the two career marriages. We're going to take a break, continue to call as we'd like to hear from you. We'll be back in just a moment. I'm to Montana. Coming up on news camp, we take a look at an ambitious program for low income housing. And still to come, a lady who made her public debut at the tender age of eight with the legendary Jackie Wilson. Jody Watley has the spotlight on today's entertainment page. And we'll also check in with Cashman, Kolber, to get an update on his weight loss program. All this and much more coming up on cityline. Oh, my thoughts. That the movie. Now, here's this week's community calendar. Hello, my name is Dorothy King. If you are currently employed in consumer credit or collection of business professional offices or companies, the Baltimore chapter of Credit Women International invites you to come and join us at our monthly dinner meeting held at Provident Bank, Calvert and Lexington Street, 6:00 PM. 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If your group or organization would like to announce an event, please write us in care of City Line. WJC tbe Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. 212, one one. Or call us for further information at 4660013 between the hours of nine and five. So. Welcome back live to City Line. We're talking about two career marriages and trying to get a little insight into the good and bad side of that endeavor. You have a question or comment? A question for the Stokes is I can see that she's with child and my husband and I two career marriage and we're raising children also. And I'd like to know how do you plan to juggle that, raising a family and having two careers? I'm not sure we've planned it out totally. Fortunately, we have family that live in Baltimore, both sides, because both of us were from Baltimore. And we're hoping that that will be a help. And after the baby is born, I don't plan to immediately go back to work. So that will give me some time to adjust to having a child and getting used to the child and then planning a program. You know, and I've talked to friends about baby sitters and and things like that, so I'm at least working on it. But we don't have a sketch yet. But do you intend to continue working even after the child? Yeah, after I stay home for a while, you know, a couple of months or so with it, then? Yes. What consideration have the Watts's given to children? Well, we're planning to start our family this year and start working on it anyway, and we've talked about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=1408.61,1557.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I guess we'll just have to take things as they come. But we're lucky enough to have family in the area who will help us now. Are you, by chance familiar with the statistic that half of the to career family of two career marriages end in divorce? Oh, I'm very familiar with that. Does it create any added undue stress on you because you have a 5050 chance of not making it? No, it doesn't bother me at all, because Claude and that have known each other long time before we got married. And he is my best friend. And you mentioned during the break that you saw that we had a sense of humor and we really do. So I don't worry about statistics. I just look at our marriage and we work at it. We're partners and we just do our best and make it work. Okay. Beatty In the audience again, we have another two career couple here. Any questions or comments you'd like to add to what our couples here are saying? Yes, I have a question to the Watsons. With your dual careers and seems like it could be hectic at times. How do you fit in your extracurricular activities? Well, all of our activities are limited to the weekend. We don't play anything during the course of the week unless it's absolutely necessary. Mondays are definitely out for me because I'm in school again, and there are times when she has certain meetings that she has to attend. So on Friday's on Friday night, all day, Saturday and Sunday, that belongs to us. And we do with whatever we choose if we don't want to see anybody. You just stay at home and be like hermits and enjoy the time together or we we'll go and visit some of our friends or catch a movie or something of that nature.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=1557.97,1661.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What about for the sexes? Well, it's interesting that she would bring that up because as we looked at the schedule a little bit earlier, every weekend through the end of next month is already occupied with something. So, yeah, there's a certain percentage. The other thing that we usually end up doing is set aside a piece of every evening, even if it's only for that time that you're just laying in bed together to express whatever grievances, difficulties, I mean, get them out into the open before they end up becoming a problem. Sometimes you harbor things that you don't know are a problem until it's brought up, and the other person responds, Yeah, that's the way you felt about that. Let me ask you to how do you manage to get some time together? Well, it's very hard. I'm an architect and my wife is a computer operator and an extra time. I'm pretty much doing a lot of things. So one thing about the Watsons, the dimensions, the communication, we must communicate. And a lot of times I do bring my work home and she's pretty much the client there. And I present my project to her and she says, I'm so so it works out pretty well there. Are you honest when you tell them you're sold? Oh, yes. And I appreciate the fact that he does me at home. I'm one that likes to have my husband at home with me, especially on the weekends. And I like the fact that he does bring that work home with him instead of staying at the office. You do find that weekends are particularly important to you, right? Very important. Okay. Good luck to you. Okay. Okay. We have a call from home. Let's take that now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=1661.89,1741.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hi. Call. Are you on City Line live? Yes. Oh, speak now. Yes, please go ahead. You're on the air. My name is Wally. And, uh, Dr. Stokes. I'm calling you. Uh, good afternoon. How you doing? Good afternoon. Uh, and host and other guest is talking. We're trying to find that. One of the questions that I wanted to present to Dr. Stokes had already been presented to him in reference to additions to his family. Uh, so I'm calling it just to say, hang in there and know and see. He'll get that BMW. Okay. Thank you. Call and write to you to say hello. Thank you, Paula. You know, I'm getting the feeling that the states have a calling is just another tool to carry a family that just had a baby. That's a good friend of mine. So the wife is and so she is. She's been an inspiration and full of ideas. And his wife works with his wife works with me, so. Okay. Now, let me ask you now, you have not been married that long, either of you? No. But aren't you a little bit still on the honeymoon phase of this? And then if you have been married 12 years, 18 years, we could set up the honeymoon phase to continue. We don't know how. We don't know if this is the honeymoon phase or if it's just going to be this way. We're still having fun. That's the way I feel, because Vickie and I have known each other since college, and we've been together seven years. Okay. And to me, it's always been the same. And I feel like it'll be that way forever. And that's the way I look at it. Because as she was saying earlier, she is my best friend and I believe we don't have a lot of problems communicating because when I come home from work, there's something bothering me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=1742.41,1848.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She knows it. And so we'll talk about it. Or in the opposite situation. If something's bothering her, she'll come home this year. Well, she'll say whatever she has to say to me, and that makes me appreciate what she does. And it helps her appreciate what You know what I do. I know you probably don't want to dispense advice over the air, but you're successful. Added so far, you've talked about the communication. You've also talked about being friends. What other points do you think help you to make it work so well? You need to set priorities. I mean, that becomes very important as to what is important to you. And family must come first. I mean, it's the backbone through all else. And when everything else is failing, when the heat is really picking up outside of the home, you need family. And to to set that priority and make sure that the special time and that you understand each other becomes very important. Let me ask you again, it's only been a short time for the most part in terms of being actually married, but are there any obstacles that that you've considered you've been talking about that you haven't found solutions to yet? I mean, are you telling us that everything you've considered about your lives and how how you're going to live them in the future has been settled? Or are there still things that you're still trying to work out and reach common ground on? Well, the biggest, if in our picture right now is if I go back into residency for emergency medicine, then that's going to be a true strain. The hours are going to be as ridiculous as they were for the earlier part of residency that I did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=1848.73,1937.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The income is going to be cut by a little bit more than half. And with a family member that's going to demand continuous attention, it's going to be interesting. Well, we thank you all for coming to city land and sharing your marriages, your careers. And good luck to you with the new baby. We wish you continued luck. It's been very good today. Good luck. You are on the drawing board. Thank you for being with us. We're going to take a break and come right back. So please stay tuned. And to Montana. Coming up on News Corp, we take a look at an ambitious program for low income housing. And still to come, a lady who made her public debut at the tender age of eight with the legendary Jackie Wilson. Jody Watley has the spotlight on today's entertainment page. And we'll also check in with costume Colbert to get an update on his weight loss program. All this and much more coming up on city lines. Good afternoon. Topping today's news, carp the housing facts of Baltimore City. More than 40,000 families await some form of housing assistance here in Baltimore. 20% of those families in the metropolitan area earn less than $10,000. Many pay more than 50% of their income for badly deteriorated unfit housing. Federal programs for housing. Low income people have been largely eliminated, and the resources that are available to finance housing through state or local funds are focused on people of moderate income. One of the questions raised by these facts is what happens to the person of low income who is in need of decent, affordable housing? Does he or she or that family fall through the cracks? One such program that addresses this issue is the Enterprise Loan Fund, of which Mimi Wagster is the coordinator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=1937.59,2160.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she joins us now. Ms.. Wagster, we want to thank you for taking this time with us this afternoon. You've heard the facts. How desperate is the need for low income housing here in Baltimore City? Well, there is a great need in Baltimore City and also in some of the metropolitan counties. I think there's a need everywhere. And we have been concerned about the cutback in federal funds. And we're trying to get a new source of low income, low interest money available to finance some of these projects to house people in the city and the metropolitan area. Let's talk about your program then, the Enterprise Loan Fund. Exactly. What is the Enterprise Loan Fund and what does it do to address this issue? Well, the Enterprise Loan Fund is trying to address the issue of making housing for low income families affordable. And one of the major problems in making housing affordable is the cost of money. So the Enterprise Loan Fund is a fund that will be capitalized by private deposits or private investments. And people then can deposit money into an account at Baltimore federal. And this money, because it's coming in at low interest rates, will be available to nonprofit organizations who are going to be rehabbing housing or doing new construction for low income families. And the money is available to them at below market rate interest. This permits them then to keep the rent payments down or the mortgage payments down, the monthly payments down for people to be able to afford housing. Now, that sounds good in theory, but how applicable is it? Is it working? Is this plan working? It's an ambitious plan, I might add. It is an ambitious plan and it is working. And the response from the community has been terrific.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=2161.06,2277.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have raised over $1,000,000 in one account that we have at the Enterprise Foundation, the account at Baltimore Federal Financial and I have a brochure here is available to individuals who can go to any branch of Baltimore federal and open up an account and know that their money is going to be on deposit there for them. It's safe, it's secure, it's insured. It is there when they need it back and they will get a 3% interest on it. And by making this deposit, you are then saying my money can be used to improve my community and to help others have decent housing. Not to take the devil's advocate spot here, Ms.. Wagster, but the program sounds somewhat philanthropic and you're trying to make philanthropists out of everyone who has your program designed. What kind of people are you appealing to? Who is going to loan you money at below interest rates and interest rates lower than what they could get, say, if they deposited this money in a regular bank? Well, I think it's interesting because you might assume that lots of philanthropic organizations would would do this. And they have. We've had many religious organizations, many foundations support us by making this kind of investment. But the program is really designed to appeal to individuals, to appeal to the entire community. And we have also achieved that. So the individuals are making deposits of anywhere from 500 to 10000, $15,000, knowing that this is a way that they can finally do something to help people have better housing in the city. And what does the person who makes that investment makes that loan to your organization? What does that individual get in return? That individual gets in return a 3% return on their money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=2278.27,2392.99"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They know that their deposit is there to be renewed if they want to after a year or to be taking. And back. And they know that they are making this kind of investment which is so important to have stable communities and to have families be able to become more self-sufficient. And having a decent house is a very important factor in people's lives that can help them turn their lives around. Ms.. Wax One final question. We are out of time in terms of bridging the gap and filling the void that has been created by the decreased federal moneys that have been available. How how much of an impact is the Enterprise Loan Fund program having on the housing situation here in the metropolitan area? Well, housing is very expensive. We hope to raise $10 million by this program. We have raised to date less than a million and a half. The only way we're going to be successful, the only way this program is going to have a major impact as is if it becomes something that the community all participates in. And by that, I mean as individuals, by individuals who are willing not only to make a deposit, but to say to their church group or to any organization, neighborhood associations, civic organization, my organization can also become a depositor in this account. So there are all kinds of ways. But the important thing, I think, is for each person in this area to see it as something that we can participate in and that we can encourage others to participate in. So we want lots of depositors information. Wish. If someone call for more information, I can be reached at 9640552. And that is the Enterprise Foundation's number. Okay, this works. And we want to thank you for taking the time with us this afternoon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=2393.83,2512.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. And that is today's News Cab. There's more to the line coming up next. Stay with us. And do have a good afternoon. Okay, we're back. This is an action packed city line today. I don't know if you remember or not, but about six months ago, we had a young man to accept the city line weight loss challenge. That's right. He weighed about £500 and he wanted to lose approximately 300. So we have him on the phone right now and we're going to do an update with him. His name is Costume. Colbert. Costume, Are you there? Yes, I am. Great. Jackie Hall here. How are you? Fine. I know you are doing fine in here. Oh, I'm not doing too bad. That's good. How are we doing so far? I'm doing okay. I mean, slow, but. Okay. What? The constant weight loss. Okay. We're want to talk a little bit about how much you're talking about how much you've lost. Well, I've lost total the weight of 14 now. So that's £90 since I started. Right. That's about £40 since we talked last. Okay. So what did you do to lose that? What what kind of regimen have you been on? Well, I've been doing a diet two times a day and having a main meal and just exercise. And I've been swimming. I swam about a mile and a half a day, and I do a regular walking about ten blocks and regular home exercises that I try to do every day, you know, And that's basically what I've been doing. Now, as I recall, that that's a major change from before in terms of particularly the exercise, you really weren't able to do too much before. That's true. I couldn't do I can only walk about a block and I'm, you know, really doing better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=2513.35,2701.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. It changed. Now, that's an ongoing part of your regimen. Is there any schedule in terms of a major goal you have coming up soon? Oh, not really. I'm trying Trying to break over £120 by summer. That's about maybe the the highest. All are set right now. I'm trying to get into school, too. I want to be in school by next September. Okay. Now, when you were with us, you were supervised, right? Yes. You had some help, which was good for encouragement. What about it now? Are you doing this independently or are you still involved with the couple that was here with you? Well, more or less. I'm independent, but I still rely on the couple that I was working with Herbert Hogan's on before I was staying with them and I was being supervised by them. But now I'm on my own. I have my own place. So it's much harder because I don't have anybody watching me. And it's you have to really strive to stay on your own. Okay, now, but your hardest part about it, you still committed? Yes, definitely. You're going to hang in there? Oh, definitely. Okay. We'll check with you in a couple of months and we'll see how well you've been doing. Of course, we wish you well. Okay. Okay. That's costume Colbert Jones, who is also doing all that. It is doing so well. Okay. That's that's very encouraging, isn't it? £90. That's a long way down. Oh, my. And of course, we wish him the best. What's coming up next? Well, we've got Howard Anthony coming up, of course, with the entertainment page and a very special guest. Yes. And let's walk down and talk about it. Do you know who the guest is? You're going to tell me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=2702.34,2803.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's Jody Watley. She's formerly a performer on Soul Train. She and Shalamar, she was a former member of the group Shalamar. And she has a hot number out called I'm Looking For a New Love. Okay. Octumom Kolber, thanks. One more time. We're going to take a break before we go to the entertainment piece. Indeed. Stay with us. Let's send it in for our. No. You. Do you want. But maybe I'm strong enough. Have a new book. I'm. Hi, I'm Harold Anthony. You know, it should come as no surprise that there isn't even one valid on Jody Watley, M.C., a solo debut as a founding member of Shalamar. Watley often made it her business to sidestep popular trends. Jody's desire for the new and mildly off the wall is not surprising when you consider her uniquely varied introductions to show business. She was born in Chicago to a singing piano playing mother and a traveling evangelist father whose radio shows made him popular among a show biz crowd that included soul giants Sam Cooke, Johnnie Taylor, Joe Tex and Jackie Wilson, who also happens to be Jody's godfather. It was during one of Wilson's performances that at age eight, Jody made her illustrious stage debut. By age 15, Jody's family moved to Los Angeles, where she plugged into the local music scene. Ultimately, she became a regular on Don Cornelius, the Soul Train. It was the show's tremendous exposure that got Jody and her dance partner, Jeffrey Daniel, recruited for the pop soul trio Shalamar. When that edition of Shalamar ended in 1984, Jody creatively exiled herself for two years in Europe, where she modeled for top magazines and newspapers. During this time, Jody also recorded with some of Europe's top groups, including The Art of Noise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=2803.77,3063.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a special lady, a lady who inspired the Jermaine Stewart, who also happens to be another Shalamar Soul Train alumni hit. Jody, a lady whose debut album is just the beginning. Here's Jody Watley with looking for a new love for her. Get. You. Do you want to do this? But maybe I'm gonna get you a new book. Once you get all the way. The guys will have. Timothy, how do you feel? You know, and he'll. You know, you may. You know me, you know. And then. Yeah, I'd say that a. Washington, D.C.. Can you show me the will of my brain? Back again. Tell me. I guess. But now you like to rest and word the best. They said, you know, I needed. You know. You know the world. Me. You know. I can honestly say that I knew. I can honestly say that I knew the day. Looking for a new baby. A new name. I can honestly say that I knew James. The guys will have made them appreciate my love, Charlie. How does it feel? Now you look at the wrist and where the lightest estimate is the. I'm looking for. That. I'm. David. They did a. That was one of the most multi-talented and innovative performers on the scene today. That was Jody Watley with looking for a new love. Now, if you're looking for something new, not necessarily a new love, but something exciting nonetheless, then you won't want to miss the greatest show on Earth yet. The 117th edition of the Ringling Brothers Barnum and Bailey Circus is coming to the Baltimore Arena on Tuesday, March 17th for 25 thrilling performances through March 29th. If you want to see elephants breakdancing and much, much more than reserve your seat today for additional information, simply call 34 seven, 2000.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=3063.86,3351.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another exciting event will take place at 5:00 pm this evening when the Zod Delta Omega chapter of the Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. presents the famed Harlem Boys Choir in concert. The concert will be held at HAVERTY Grace High School 700 Congress Avenue in HAVERTY Grace, Maryland. Tickets are $5, and additional information may be obtained by calling 6791205. And with that, I will have to close another edition of the entertainment page. I'm Harold Anthony, hoping you all have a great week. Thank you, Harold. Yes. Yes, She was exciting. Oh, my. She is so talented. And I love the song. Just love it. So I'm looking for a new one, too. Oh, but that's another shot down, man. But at any rate, in reference to other shows that we've had in the past on City Line, we have gotten letters, just Boku letters, and as always, loads of them. As always, we'd like to share those letters with you because we appreciate our viewers who write us and take the time to tell us what they're feeling. This particular letter is about a show that we had just last week on Safe Sex. And March 8th, 1987, was very timely and interesting. Families should play a role in educating their children on the importance of safe sex. I firmly agree with Dr. Maupin, who was our guest, that sex education should begin at home and should begin at an early age. And this is from Malcolm Winston of Baltimore, Maryland. And thank you. Thank you. And the next letter that we have relates to our show. Our reunion up on Pennsylvania Avenue, up on Pennsylvania Avenue was like being home again. I lived on the Avenue for a number of years. Anyone who is only aware of the new developments had to see the pictures and hear stories of what was Sunday, February, a city line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=3352.64,3481.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hope you continue not to forget that part of our roots and hometown. Thank you for a most memorable day. That's from a low moment in Baltimore. Okay. And our third letter is from Mrs. Emma Young of Edgware, Maryland. And she writes, I would like to know what became of the Brown Buddies and the Sweethearts of the Rhythm band. I would like to get in touch with them. Thank you also for the wonderful program you're bringing to the public. That particular show also dealt with up on Pennsylvania Avenue. And if anyone in our audience has an answer to that as to what happened to the Brown Bodies and the Sweethearts of the Rhythm band, please call us and let us know so that we can give that information to Mrs. Emma Young. That's fine. So we can pass it on. And of course, we want to ask you to do just the same as these folks did. Invite you to write in to City Line. If you have a question, a comment, or a show idea or something that we're doing right or wrong, address it to City Line, WG, ETV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. Two one, two, one, one. Okay. What's coming up next week? Next week we're going to be talking about cases of discrimination. You know, it's a topic that comes up over and over again. And we're going to have some very interesting folks there to tell us about their experiences. And if you and our audience has had a problem with a case of discrimination and you believe that you were indeed discriminated against. Call us now to become a member of our studio audience at 41, 13, 13, we'd like for you to be here and share your case with us as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290#t=3482.06,3562.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105531/file/206290/transcript/48946/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's right. That ought to be a very interesting show because there are a number of things in the news right now that are raising some questions about whether or not we've really made much progress in the last ten or 15 years. And not only that, there are a lot of people who honestly feel they're being discriminated against but can't put their finger on it and have no recourse for resolving it. Well, we'll look for you next week. Thanks for being with us today. I'm Betty Bentley. I'm Jacqui Hall. 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