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Has it gone a long way, or do you at home feel it has gone the wrong way? Dr. Edgar Berman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=55.85,66.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's gone a fairly long way, but it's gone a wrong way in many instances. Elaine Stein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=67.82,73.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e a long way, but we still have a longer way to go. Madeline Murphy. I think it's gone a long way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=74.97,79.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e but we still have a long way to go. And Tony Keene.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=79.97,82.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I agree with the last.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=83.43,84.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e of the three people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=85.03,85.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e long way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=86.58,86.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's still a long way to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=87.54,88.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e spoken and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=88.27,88.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We're going to talk about the women's movement tonight as we square off. We're going to talk about the. Good evening everyone, it's Saturday night at 7 .30. We're talking tonight about the women's movement. We were gonna have four of our female panelists to discuss it, but we decided since Edgar has written a book called The Complete Chauvinist, that he would be perfect. An interesting panelist to have on tonight. What's that book all about anyway? Well, what do you think? Well, what do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=88.93,119.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm asking you, what about women? for our audience. I think that I'm probably the greatest authority on women since 1970. Alright.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=120.23,128.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think you're the greatest curmudgeon on women since you've had your male menopause","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=128.85,133.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, now we're going to focus in. Now we're going to focus in. On the women's issues, we're going to focus in on ERA, equal pay, sexual harassment in the workplace, divorce, the family. What issues do you think facing women today are the most important, the most serious, where you need the most work?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=133.78,148.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think we need more daycare. I think the problem with what is happening in the workplace is that women have to juggle, like whirling dervishes, their home life with their children as well as their workplace. And if they had competent and good daycare, daycare has been reduced since 1982 rather than increased when more women have gone into the workplace.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=149.34,170.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, if there weren't so many divorces, which is one of the results of the feminist movement, there wouldn't have to be that much daycare.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=170.87,178.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well I think you have to look at a new approach to the family, what about the family? It's a question of -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=178.87,182.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I have to disagree with Edgar. You know, there are lots of quote -unquote intact families where women have to go out into the workforce because basically you need two incomes. Most of them have to go out. And I agree that daycare is very important, but I think it goes back to economic issues. What we find when women are divorced, their standard of living dramatically drops, which means their kid's standard of living dramatically drops. More and more women are on their own and they just can't make it. They just can't earn enough money for a decent living.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=183.93,210.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So I certainly think that equality in the workforce, and it's very interesting. There was a woman I interviewed who is the head of the Women's Economic Concern in Washington, Patricia Harrison. And she came to Baltimore, laid in down with books. I was going to bring some of it, 7 percent, 7 percent. Women are represented by 7 percent in top corporations in the United States. That means top salaries. Now you know that's very sad. And we still don't get dollar for dollar. 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Talk about the average working woman. There are waitresses. Yeah, I'm interested in equality. Nurses and and stenographers 70 and with your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=263.57,277.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And with your prejudice, and with your prejudice mind, and the way you look down on women, and even when you make jokes... and with your prejudice. when you make jokes. You are. What do you do for women? What do I do? Do you have any women horse trainers? What do I do for them? Do you have any women horse trainers?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=276.46,289.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I let them face themselves, which is a very difficult thing. Yeah, but which is a very difficult thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=289.35,292.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you have any women horse trainers for your horses? They're not capable of it. Of course they're capable. That's what's so disgusting. And that's why they're only 70 % represented. Of course you have women. Of course they're cable, that's what's so disgusting and that's why they're only 70 % represented. Would you believe me when I tell you I just as soon have a woman surgeon as I would have a surgeon like you because you wouldn't care whether it was a woman or not. Don't tell me I'm foolish. How many women have the reputation that I have? Because of doctors like you believe very few. Well, let's get out of here. It was a woman or not. Don't tell me I'm foolish. How many women have the reputation that I have? Well, let's get it on the set.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=293.31,315.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=318.04,318.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let's get back to the point that I think Edgar was making, that she has - Wait Elaine, wait for Tony. Elaine, darling, wait for Tony. Wait Elaine, wait for Tony. Elaine, darling, wait for Tony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=318.56,324.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You're always making one, quiet! You have to be respectful, you're very good at this. Now watch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=324.98,328.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Alright, getting back to Edgar's point, you talked about women being concentrated in certain kinds of jobs, and you're absolutely right. We are. We are concentrated in those jobs. And what's very ironic is when we have the jobs, for example, when we wait tables, you know, we get sort of the lowest possible positions. When you talk about plush restaurants, what do you want waiting on you? Men. And they're the ones that make the money even. 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Let me tell you something, and I hate to say this in the presence of our dear, beloved Dr. Edgar Berman. More awful mail. And I got the... but I really think that the feminist movement should concern itself with women. Number one, women in my profession are not necessarily nice to one another. There are women who have very high jobs who are not nice to other women. There are women who do not like waitresses, and this was said by somebody at one of Baltimore's, Baltimore's fanciest restaurant, this woman said, Thank heavens there are no waitresses here, because I like waiters. Let me finish, please. There are women who prefer and will only go to a male doctor and they would never dream of going to a female dentist whose hands could certainly do just the same. There are also women that only want male makeup artists. They are not even concerned that the male makeup artists are gay or that their hairstyles are gay, but they still want men. 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It's not that they're having a sexual thing with men. They prefer a man. What I'm saying is, I really think we've got to do some work on ourselves. There are women. But you made it for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=428.57,437.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, of course, that's a human failing. I don't think it's necessarily male or female.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=441.77,446.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm talking about females.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=446.31,447.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e No, but it's a human failing that people make their choices in relationship to the gender of the person. That's part of the reason for the feminist movement. Oh no, I'm concentrating on women. I'm telling you about women. But that's not all the women. Now the real issue, it seems to me, is that women occupying the same jobs as men get less money than the men. We ought to do that about it. I'm not concentrating on women. I'm telling you about women. No, but I -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=447.89,461.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e the man. You're talking about one thing I'm talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=470.32,475.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but I'm not thinking that's the main stream. Would you two cats stop clawing at each other? We're not clawing at each other. That's an insult. No, it isn't. 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More money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=511.24,515.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Before we get to Edgar's agenda, because I don't like a women's show having a man set the agenda. That bothers me very much. Do you ever see Edgar's being on the panel? No, not really. I think he's adorable. Just to know his place. Yeah, absolutely. just to know his place. When we talk about the kinds of things that Elaine was talking about in terms of women denigrating other women, at times, at times, now I find it changing, I find it changing very much, I find that it's gotten a lot better. When we talk about - When we talk about at times. All the time. And part of it, when you have certain groups that have been put down and trivialized by society, lots of times they'll take on society's definitions. And lots of times, I think the most damaging thing about discrimination is the self -hatred that happens. And if you hate self - that if you hate. You hate others like yourself, and I think we've seen this in many, many kinds of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=514.5,555.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And this is the black experience, this is the black woman's experience, and when they talk about in a week, a couple weeks ago about... This is a black woman's experience. Absolutely. how women had to go out and work and juggle their family and all that sort of thing. Well, I come from a culture where this was always the case. Because black men couldn't support their family completely. Oh, they don't try. So they learned how. We'll see you on that one. Oh, they don't cry. They learned how to cope with these situations much earlier. And so that is not their particular problem. Their problem is racism. 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I mean, we were sort of those loophole women. You know, we worked the system when the system was very tight. The mail was. was very tight. Oh, can't you tell? I mean, here we are, looking like a collection of drag queens. These are three masculine women. The second thing is... I mean, here we are, you know, looking like a collection of drag queens. The second thing is, you're a feminist. The second thing is, as the younger women, really, I don't think are raised with this kind of, you know, competition and tend to be very, very supportive. Also, you know, I find with lots of my friends, we've gotten a lot more supportive of one another. As we go through rotten things, men come and go. Your women friends stay. And that makes a big difference. All right, Elaine, make the final point. 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You are much too aggressive and loud.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=666.31,671.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I see. Oh, my. It's all right for men and women. Oh, my. And that's bad. And you are too racist. You are very racist. No, no. You don't mean. But you don't define me as racist. You are too racist. You don't define me. It's all right. You are too racist. You are very racist. You don't define racism. You don't define racism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=671.53,681.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And Tony is an old feminist from way back. Almost a burned out feminist. We will be back in just a moment. and he told me. Almost a burned out family. 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Well, I'm just a little bit fed up with that message. They have to be aggressive, but when women are aggressive, they are bitches. When men are aggressive, they are powerful. They have to be aggressive. because they're powerful. And so, therefore, the whole vocabulary concerning women and how they should be is defined by","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=807.31,828.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think that men know how to compete with women in their own level? See, I don't think they do. No, I don't think so. See, I think in this whole... No, I don't think so. 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And Ellen Goodman, and I really respect her tremendously, she said that in all of this we didn't hear from a lot of men because I think as confusing as women's role is today, I think that men are even more bewildered except for our dear doctor who's been setting his for the past 40 years, so we don't expect him to...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=843.18,875.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But at least they get paid. I mean, they're economic situations. They can be rewarded, but there's a certain kind of financial cushion. No, no, that's because... They can be the worst... I would like... but there's a certain kind of financial cushion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=874.53,882.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me ask you this, if I may throw a question out. How are you going to fix the inequities that women face in today's society? How are you going to fix that? 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We have seven or eight minutes talking about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=891.5,894.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think comparable worth, that whole concept is absolutely impossible. I don't know whether it's impossible, I think it's absolutely insane. That's impossible. I agree. 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Answer the question. What have they attained? Let's take in wages. There's still 60 cents on the man's dollar. 20 years ago, there was 57 cents. That's where they've come. That's how you let us come, three cents in 20 years. How many women in the Fortune 500? I tell you, let us come three cents in 20 years. How many women? Two, two, in politics, in twenty, in twenty -five years. Oh. two women and all I can name you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=931.97,963.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I can name you five who were in the hundred list on the U .S. 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You don't know what you're talking about. Hold it, hold it, hold it. Hold it, hold it, hold it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=972.03,976.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll stipulate to them. That's true. They're very few, that's true. But, you know, when you look at, for example, when you look at the professions, 17 % of doctors now, 17 % of lawyers. Right. They have come up and I say the opportunity is great. So basically what we're saying is that there are all these women working their way Yep. When you look at the profession, you look at the profession. Okay, in the profession. They have come up and I say the opportunity is great. 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Ed, Tony, Madeline, go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1005.04,1007.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think you're going to change it in this generation. What you're talking about, Edgar, the three cents increase. I think when women who are sensitive to this problem, rear children, boys particularly, to be more sensitive. I think there's some hope with somebody like the man over in New Jersey who had this big industry and that story where he had a daycare center so that his workers would be more happy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1004.97,1030.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e For God's sake, Madeline, will you stop with that daycare center business? That's not the prime thing we're talking about. 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There are two men there are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1042.369,1045.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right, and probably less.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1053.27,1054.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Edgar, you talk about the women's movement, you know, and I think that's one thing that the program didn't do. The program showed us all the ills of the single parents and... Quiet, please. You talk about the week. the single mothers and the men that dump the women. We know that, we've been through that with a dozen different documentaries. The woman's movement is dead. Please don't, let me just say. Please don't come to it. You would like that. The point is... No, I wouldn't like that. No, let me finish this. Of course you would. Yes, because then how would you... Don't let him get you off track. Get back on track. The point is that... Well, he does get me off track. Get back on. All right. Let me finish this of course. point is that he does get me back on The back on is we have come a long way. You know, when I was 18 years old, the thought of owning my own condominium or buying a car, and I can say that for all of us here. for all of us here. uh... for even women in their for in their early even in their thirties would say the same thing so we have come a long way the mere fact that we're simply talking about this now you know it hasn't been too long that we were not permitted to vote when the statu of liberty was and let me finish","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1055.26,1108.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The Statue of Liberty wasn't, let me finish, when the statue, no, it's true, it's true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1106.37,1111.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, it's true. It's true. When the Statue of Liberty was erected 100 years ago, women were not permitted on the island. The Statue of Liberty. Women were not permitted. You know that. So the point is that in 20 years... We weren't even allowed to vote 50 years ago, for God's sake. So then what do you want us to be the heads of all the top corporations when it's been solely dominated by men? I think we've made great strides. We weren't even allowed to vote fifty years ago for Johnson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1108.77,1127.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And not only that, the corporations are also, many of them have been inherited by men. 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No kidding, in 25 years you have one conductor? Yes, no we don't have one, there are many. Two of them, Sarah Caldwell. There are many others. Who are the top artists? We didn't even have boats 50 years ago. There are many. Two of them. Sarah Caldwell. There are many others. 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Great Hardigan. I'll name the name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1204.02,1208.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This is not a quiz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1209.21,1210.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, he's in the Museum of Modern Art.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1210.04,1212.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't know a damn thing about Montenegro. Quiet down. What I'm saying is how far have they gone? How far have they gone to any field? We cannot, as far as you will... 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It is the men that keep us back and if you keep on talking about that then you're talking about us making bricks without","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1226.47,1237.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Go Tony.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1239.06,1239.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, and the problem here is that you're getting us into a double bind. We haven't done it, but then when we try to do it, we're like drag queens, you know? And that, it's like you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. No, not at all. And part of the problem is in terms of women accomplishing, you know, we talk about having it all, men regularly expect to have a family and a career. That's not a choice. You have both, and it's made easy, but for women to have a career... Drag queen. if you don't. 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No, not necessarily, not necessarily. but you know basically women have to sacrifice so much so very very much and make kinds of choices and and i think part of that does create certain kinds of problems","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1266.25,1278.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You always have, for instance, do you think Richard's gonna go home and do the dirty laundry and cook? 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That's right. Listen, if I was your husband, I should probably be...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1294.22,1299.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e When I had these babies, five babies, he used to wash diapers. My husband has supported me in so many ways that I know there is hope in this world. He used to spy babies. He used to wash diapers. 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What are you going to do to fix some of this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1309.02,1315.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e James, is it going already or is it gone? We have to be doing what we have been doing, but we have to do it in different ways. We have to do it in an insidious way to get around. 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Because you know, Tony, you know Edgar real well. How much of this? Because you know, Tony... is for real? How much of what? 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I thought you had guts. Elaine, you tell us then, how much have you? All right, I'll tell you. Say it. Come on. He may be just as iconic. Some of it? None of it? All of it? Is it all showbiz? I thought you had guts. Elaine, you tell us then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340#t=1360.41,1368.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144631/file/267340/transcript/77339/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, I'll tell you. I'll tell you. Go. 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Unfortunately, we have gone long. We don't have time to read your letters. All right, they are. How do you feel about the panelists or discussion tonight? Here's the address. Write to us at Square Off, WJZ TV, Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland, 21211. I'm gonna be leaving town for a little while, going down to Ashen. Join Don Scott next Saturday night at 730 when once again, we Square Off. Stay tuned now for the pick four. 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