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No. Well, there's more comments in the comments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=36.19,43.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And folks, you're a lot better than you think you are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=44.02,46.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=52.61,54.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Hi everybody, welcome to Channel 13's Square Off program for another Saturday night. Tonight, Jimmy Swaggart, he'll be back in the pulpit, he says, May 22nd, with or without the blessings of the assemblies of God. He's going back and tonight on Square Off we ask those of you at home and those of you on our panel, what do you think about it, John Lofton? Well, a preacher who doesn't care what God says won't care what his church elders say. Dr. Margaret Fountain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=60.22,84.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm speechless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=85.74,86.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Boyce Mosley, I hope he won't be for the show. Boyce Mosley. They need the money, they need the money. And Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=87.94,92.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e He's about to make Penthouse magazine richer than it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=93.11,96.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Jimmy Swaggart, Jesse Jackson and other subjects in the news this Saturday night as we square off. Well, Jim Swaggart said on Wednesday that even though he's been banned by the National Assemblies of God from preaching for a year because of his sex scandal, he will return on May 22nd with or without the blessing of the church. And there's been an awful lot of reaction since this story broke on Wednesday. Certainly been a lot of talk on the radio talk shows, Alan. What do you think about this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=97.01,135.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Richard, I think it's bad for religion because I think religion plays such an important role in daily life. But here's the point. The woman who says she was paid by Swagger is going to pose for one of the national skin magazines. In all the poses, she said he wanted her to be in. And they're printing a million extra copies. Now what's going to be the image of the person on the street when they look at when they see that the big -time televangelists... may or may not be falling into this kind of trap. I think it's regrettable because I think there are shut -ins, I think there are people who depend on their televisions for their religion, and this guy should just go away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=135.74,176.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what about the religious principle of forgiving? He feels that he's been forgiven by his immediate congregation. Now, the organization that controls the church isn't that powerful as far as he's concerned because he controls the dollar. You have a question. And he realizes that... Do you have a question? as long as the church is based upon economics, that he has the power to come and go as he pleases.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=177.74,201.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, and won't it depend on his congregation, I mean, what do you say about people who decide after he comes back, whether it's forced or not, and they decide that, look, we want to keep this man on. Shouldn't that be the decision? Why else would you argue about it if they want to keep him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=201.32,214.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Then why have a governing board, the Presbyterian, in the church if individual churches or individual congregations can do what they choose? or individual congregations can do what they choose.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=213.67,223.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not saying that they're mutually exclusive. I'm not saying that that will be a mutual exclusion. In other words, if he comes back, if the congregation wants him, the board will decide one way or the other whether they think that's fitting at that particular point in time. What about forgiveness?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=223.36,235.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, then you really don't have organized religion. You really don't have a structured governing body.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=236.4,242.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Don't look at it as one point in time. We're talking about a continuum here. This man is dealing with this in terms of coming back, preaching to this congregation. Yeah, but you know, when you talk...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=242.58,251.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but you know when you talk about coming back you're talking about a man who made himself the front piece against pornography","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=250.27,257.029"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'm not saying I agree with what he did. I'm just saying that the politics of it. All right, but the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=257.66,261.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm just saying that the politics of it all right, but the politics of it must be dealt with by his religion And he's saying all right, even if my religion says that I should take off a year. I'm gonna come back Anyway, I don't care what they say and that's the attitude that bothers me. What's that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=259.529,275.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What's that say about Swaggered in your opinion?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=274.98,276.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it says about Schwaggart that he wants to return to being a high rolling televangelist no matter what anybody else says about him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=276.78,283.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e It says more than about Swagger, it says about the entire church, that the entire church is based upon who can bring in the most dollars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=282.99,293.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, no. I don't buy that voice. I think you're absolutely wrong on that. I think in terms of the ministers who go on television, there are many of them who put their money into foundations. They do good works around the world. And you can't... See, this is the danger of casting the one blanket over all the people who use the television for their ministry and saying, well, they all must be alike. They're not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=292.85,313.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, but the big -name ones, the big -name televangelists, I think, are mainly alike because they're out to get the money. Would you speak, please?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=313.55,321.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, there's a joke going around that Jim Baker and Swigert are going to start their own magazine called Repent House. But I think the problem is that neither one of them have repented. They were both caught, then they came forth and they blubbered and they asked forgiveness and, oh, I think forgiveness is great, boys, but I think obedience to God's Word is more important. There's a very serious problem in the church today, and the problem is there are many men preaching in the pulpit who are not Christians. They are not converted. This is an old problem in the church. in 1740 during the first Great Awakening, Gilbert Tennant, a well -known evangelist, preached about the problem of an unconverted ministry. Jimmy Swaggart, in his theology, is an Arminian, not an Arminian, but an Arminian. This theology exalts the sovereignty of man, not God. It is a very self -oriented salvation idea, and that's what Swaggart is. And finally, the Bible tells us that the person who exalts himself will be abased, But the person who umbleth himself... shall be exalted. So we have seen Swaggart abase. It's no surprise. It's no surprise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=322.469,384.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you decide that a person is a Christian or not? This word is thrown around so much. I'm really interested in how you define Christianity and who's a Christian. Let me finish this statement. 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How do you make that decision?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=421.35,426.2"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, when it comes to the matter of forgiveness and all these other questions, there's an authority higher than Jimmy Swigert's congregation, and it's God Almighty. And you ask the question of how do I know if someone's a Christian? Well, the Bible repeatedly answers that question in the New Testament of how one knows one is saved, how one knows what a Christian is. By their fruits you shall know them, said our Lord. Good fruit, good tree, bad fruit, bad tree, no fruit, dead tree. They are human.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=429.33,454.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e They are not gods. They are human. They are not god, which automatically means they're going to make mistakes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=455.25,459.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, but they don't have to work so hard at making mistakes. See, that's the difference between a... Well, wait a minute. This is an important point. See, that's the difference between a - Everybody is a sinner. 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Seeking publicity being on TV per se is not unbiblical, it's not unchristian. It's all relative.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=591.47,591.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you know that being an evangelist on television is? Strike up the music, Dwight. I'm not saying that all is... 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Max, I don't get it. Max, I don't get it. Oh my god, I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=638.97,649.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e in a two -feeted bed. Only just like nature, it has a wide bottom, so it can sit the still, and it holds more, like 52 of your meatballs, or one of mine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=652.1,663.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=664.47,665.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e If you've got hay fever, may as well...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=667.49,669.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Watery eyes. You don't have to touch it. You can put your case either clean or you stay away. Last year, millions of people did. See you then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=670.04,679.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 9:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you. This afternoon, I see a girl searching for a homeless mother, like a York and Beth Miller star, and are you my mother? On the ABC Attitude Special.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=680.62,693.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This is Joe Gibson. Tomorrow on Good Morning America, Michael J. Fox. On his role in Black Lives Big City. You can't get to Broadway. Great news and what you can find in video stores. 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For one night with the Waves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=709.96,714.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's still debating what is and is not a Christian, but we're not going to talk about that anymore because going into Tuesday's Wisconsin Primary coming up on the 5th of April. what is and is not a Christian, but we're not. Jesse Jackson has certainly been very impressive as a candidate for the Democratic nomination for president, and it's going to be quite a race with Mike Dukakis right into Atlanta. This is another subject that people are really interested in talking about. John, what do you think about the Reverend Jesse Jackson's chances? 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And I think that he's been so impressive because he's gotten a free ride from the press and his opponents in the Democratic Party have not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=750.97,776.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, that free ride is about over now, since he's a front runner. while at it. they're going to look at him more critically, and I think they've begun to look at him. But the good thing about Jesse Jackson's running... We'll see, we'll see. and his good showing, is that our nation is beginning to realize that color should not be any criterion for electing a president. However, I don't think that Mr. Jackson is the black man who should be elected president. I don't think he's electable. 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You see, liberals can... have very little to lose now in voting for Jackson. Would you vote for him? They're voting... He didn't ask you the first time. They're voting... He didn't. They're voting their conscience. But when they get into the voting booth, you're going to find a different attitude. I do not believe that Mr. Jackson can win the nomination. But would you vote for him? Would you vote for him? And if by chance he wins it, I do not believe that Mr. Jackson can win the election. He didn't ask you the first time. vote for? And if by chance you win.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=808.65,837.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you know? I mean, I hear this all the time, and I keep up with this religiously because I'm very interested in what happens. what happened. However, I think it has to depend on the people. Who cares whether they're voting their conscious or not? I mean, we never said that about a white candidate. No, they're race. 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I think that's the point and that's the key. However, I think that the information is showing that he doesn't have enough white votes to even get the nomination. He has 10 % of the white vote, 90 % of the black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=871.52,888.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Here's an interesting point on Jesse Jackson. I think he makes the blue plate Democrats uncomfortable. I think as long as he was considered a minor candidate in the race, he would be tolerated. What's happening now is he's appealing to the disenfranchised, the disaffected, the downtrodden, and they're buying the spiel. As a result, he's winning some big states.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=889.14,909.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And you're saying that that's wrong?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=909.26,910.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e No, what I'm saying is that now some of the silk -stocking liberal Democrats who are white find themselves in the uncomfortable position of having to deal with Jesse Jackson as one of the front -runners. There was a meeting in the middle of the week. National Democratic leaders held a meeting with Jesse Jackson to talk about his candidacy in the Democratic Party. They didn't call him Dukakis. They didn't call him Gore. And now the focus is on the Democratic Party suddenly feeling very uncomfortable with Jesse Jackson in that role.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=910.49,941.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you should not blame Jesse Jackson because he was smart and the Democratic Party was not thinking. I don't think that you should blame him for that. That was his asset and it was their demise that they didn't pay more attention to what he was doing because he was black.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=941.32,953.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e What he was doing because he was black the leaders of the Democratic Party I dare say that meeting were trying to plot out some strategies to try to block Jesse Jackson's great great race now You see I think most people are afraid of Jackson and won't elect him not because he's black They're afraid of his philosophy. 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This is a man who kissed and hugged Yasser Arafat, a terrorist, head of the PLO. He went to Cuba, held up Fidel Castro's. hand said long live Castro. This is a man who has a lot of skeletons in his closet about his moral life, about possible adultery in his life, running around on his wife. He and his wife have both stonewalled that question, and the press has dropped it. But Barbara Reynolds, who is a very highly respected black female journalist, worked at the Chicago Tribune, wrote a book all about these allegations, and she thought there was something to them. 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Really? You don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1060.35,1061.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Really, you don't care?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1060.78,1061.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e if he kept his way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1061.28,1061.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't care if he kept his wedding vows? Do you want to say that? Do you want to say that? You don't care if he kept his reading vows, boys? You don't care if he kept his reading vows? Do you want to say that? Do you want to say that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1062.83,1065.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e That has nothing to do with his character? With his... With his... With his character?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1065.35,1066.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e With his ability to lead. Oh, really? With his ability to lead. It has nothing to do with his character. That has nothing to do with his ability to lead. Of course it does. Well, Gary Hart tried that argument, too, boys. He went right in the can. Well, really, with this character, it has nothing to do with this character. That has nothing to do with his ability to lead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1067.22,1072.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Look at George Washington.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1076.1,1076.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, George Washington wasn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1076.94,1078.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, George Washington wasn't so great. He wasn't an adulterer. That's a lie. That's a lie. He wasn't an adulterer, that's a lie. Thomas Jefferson wasn't so great, so that's that. All right, what do you know about George Washington? Come on, man.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1077.67,1083.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e I am surprised to see you sit here and say that if a man is a whoremonger, if he is an who breaks his wedding vows, that that says nothing about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1089.459,1097.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e But look at his character. Not necessarily his ability to lead. Oh really? Look at Roosevelt. Roosevelt has gone down as one of the great presidents You're begging the question. Of our country. I thought you were a moral man, boys. And we're not talking about me. And his moral life wasn't very cultured. You wouldn't commit adultery, but you'd vote for a man who did, huh? I don't care who commits adultery. Hold it, Mario. Can he lead? Jump in. He led us into World War II. You're begging the question. Of our country. I thought you were a moral man, Boris. You wouldn't commit a -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1097.46,1114.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you know that every president we've had has not committed adultery?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1120.57,1124.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e So what if they have? It's wrong!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1124.68,1126.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I'm telling you that it has a... I'm telling you that it hasn't. the question. No, I don't understand the point, sir. Are you married? At any rate? Are you married? Anyway. Are you married?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1126.62,1135.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e John? John? I don't want to get off that. I don't blame you. Peter, we're talking about... We're talking about character. ...Jesse Jackson's cataclysm. And who established... John, if you want to get off that, I don't blame you. Peace. For a moment. We're talking about. Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1135.89,1140.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e And who establishes, John, who establishes the character? Who establishes what will be the mold that we shall follow? What does that establish?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1143.16,1149.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Look, what I'm getting upset about is not the question of whether or not Jackson has or has not committed adultery, but the fact that these two members of the panel have said that even if he did, it doesn't matter. You did not hear me say that at all. You didn't answer it. Does it matter if he committed adultery? It did not tell me say that at all. Well then, answer it. Does it matter if he committed adultery?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1149.07,1161.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't have to answer our things for you. Yeah, that's what I thought.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1161.72,1163.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e question. Suppose I say it does not matter. Suppose I say it does not matter. What? Suppose I say it does not matter, because we're talking... Do you say that? Yes, I do say that. Because we're talking about a republic, not a... Do you say that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1164.52,1170.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Not a theocracy. I see. So if a man doesn't keep his wedding vows, you don't think that says anything about his personal character? It's not relevant because here's where it's not relevant. Let's go back. It's not relevant, because here's where it's not relevant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1173.81,1181.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, Gary Hart tried that very argument, and he went right into the toilet. Let's go back to the Founding Fathers and come forward. Do you want chapter and verse? Ben Franklin comes forward and says, I have an illegitimate son. It doesn't matter, John. Franklin comes forward and says, I have an illegitimate son. It doesn't matter. It does matter if you have a theocracy. This is not a theocracy. It's a Republican form of government. Alan, first of all, Alan, you should change your name to Alan Anti -Creature. Who would be logical? Morality does matter. Alright, John, when you get cornered, you start calling names. It's a Republican form of government. First of all, Alan, you should change your name to Alan Anti -Christian. Could we be logical? Morality does that. All right, John.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1181.71,1204.07"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Hold on, hold on, hold on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1207.7,1208.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I was suggesting a name change.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1207.69,1209.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Can we just be logical for one second? Where is your evidence that committed adultery prevents people from leading this country or from doing their jobs? Where's your evidence? That's all we need from you. That's all. And that will solve the issue. If you have that, let us hear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1208.97,1223.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Did John F. Kennedy commit adultery? What do we know about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1223.67,1226.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e He let this country and well when he did it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1227.91,1230.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, when he did it. If you believe... Did he commit adultery? Are you speechless again? Why do you look away? You asked me a question. What does that matter? Don't answer with a question. That doesn't matter. I'm going to answer her question. John F. Kennedy committed adultery and he also did business with the mafia. Did he commit adultery? Why do you look away? You asked me a question, I thought... Don't answer it with a question. That doesn't matter. So that answers your question. Joyce, what's your point, please?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1229.21,1244.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e My point is, there's a difference between public morality. Oh, baloney. There's no difference. And private morality. You're being a sophist. I'll bring us off. I would be extremely concerned about the public morality of someone in public life. And you're an educator. I am not so much concerned about his personal morality. You're being a sophist. I would be extremely concerned about this. This is sophist revoking. Hold it, John. You're an educator.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1245.32,1259.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e You can't make a distinction like that. You're an educator. I flunked that kind of sophistry. I flunked you. I flunked you. of sophistry I flunked I flunk you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1263.04,1268.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, Alan, jump back, please. Well, it just seems to me that what we're trying to do here is we're trying to say that if we follow a person into a bedroom and we discover what he's doing in the bedroom, that on that basis, the person is not fit to govern. Suppose he's beating his wife in his bedroom. Well, now we could also have goats and chickens in there, John. You don't know what's going on in the bedroom. But the point is you don't know what's going on in most bedrooms. And if you followed a lot of people into the bedroom, you'd really be surprised. Alan. That was one of the - That was one of the - You'd really be surprised.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1268.47,1294.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Alan, I ask you. Good job. 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Ask you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1296.82,1298.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Checkers, Alan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1299.25,1299.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I just wonder why you're hung up on this particular issue. Hey, look! 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I'm talking about They have not decided about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1308.0,1313.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e No, the reason the reason because they haven't been told about it. Because they haven't been told about it. 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Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1343.0,1346.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e It does? First of all, I'm not an objective journalist. Whoa, I'm a columnist, whoa, I'm a columnist. I'm not a journalist. Oh, I see. Let me tell you in one sentence why it matters. A man who will violate his sacred wedding vow will also lie to the electorate every time. I'm a columnist, I'm a columnist, I'm on a journal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1347.68,1352.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You constantly change around what people say. I never ask you whether it mattered or not. I say, what's the point? Do you ask me why I was hung up on it? Thanks for watching!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1362.53,1369.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 8:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. I just told you the point, because if you'll lie to your wife and be a whoremonger and an adulterer, you'll also lie about your campaign promises. I need some evidence from you, John. I'm sorry. You sound like you were born yesterday. You sound like you were born yesterday. We'll be back. After this. I need some evidence from you, John. You sound like you were born yesterday. You sound like you were born yesterday. 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And you know, I think it's common thought over there, that I have to do my job, right? And then advice comes up. Yeah, right. Usually I am the one asking for the advice. Oh, come on! You and I have a perfect relationship. As far as if you're walking down the aisle for me? Well, uh, John Rhine has been on a big tour, and we're both too busy with business to talk about anything like that. Anyway, I'm gonna go. You have to have time to change if you're going to be busy. Thanks again. You're welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345#t=1392.25,1451.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144633/file/267345/transcript/77338/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Now listen, just stay still, stay still. 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There is no fear in my heart. Jane H. O 'Connor from Baltimore, Maryland writes I'm a staunch advocate of paddling, but equating the deserving whack of an obstreperous youngster with child abuse is utterly asinine. Make my evening. I'll gladly furnish St. George Cross with a paddle to be used on elaine stein we'd love to hear from you write to us at square off wjz tv television hill baltimore maryland two one two one one write to us right away ladies and gentlemen john lofton does have a heart and he has a grandson here he is with little john the fourth we're very glad to see you which camera all area there is right there there you are you can help this young man send your donations this is little rambo lofton ladies and gentlemen I want to tell you that starting what day cash Which camera? Oh, there he is. There he is right there. There you are. If you can help this young man, send your donations. He'll wave at you, he'll see himself. 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