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Good evening everyone, welcome to Squirrel. Tonight we talk about the Supreme Court decision ruling six to two that basically what's in your garbage is fair game and we ask you at home with those on our panel, do you think that's a good decision Eddie Gutman?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=61.39,77.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, once I throw my trash away, I suppose anyone's entitled to look through it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=78.04,81.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's not the point somebody could put things that don't belong to you in your trash","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=82.83,88.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Tom R. As much as I want to see the police win the alleged war on drugs, I think this is a bit too much of an invasion of privacy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=88.61,95.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Murphy. It's an outrageous invasion of privacy because now in order to be secure in our papers and things we have to have paper shredder.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=95.7,101.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Your trash and other subjects in the news tonight on Prettiness Night as we square off.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=102.65,107.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=111.71,111.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh Elaine, good evening everybody, welcome to Square Off, it's Saturday night at 7 .30. Hope you enjoyed the Preakness, I'm Richard Scherer, we're talking about trash. This ruling by the Supreme Court basically says that if something is thrown away in your trash, the police can use it for evidence if they find it there. Now Billy, you handled a case, a famous trash case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=118.53,137.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and unfortunately, we lost the case on the same ground that the Supreme Court said that we should have lost it, and that is that they say we don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy in our own trash. That's ridiculous, because that's the only place where we put things we don't want anybody to see. So it stands common sense up on its head. And even some court decisions would say, if you don't like it, get a paper shredder. My God, what about the poor folk who can't afford to... First of all, what's the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=138.3,166.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, first of all, what I want to get straight is that we're not talking about a smoking pistol in a trash can. We're not talking about a murder weapon. We're talking about a license for the... We're not talking about a murder weapon.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=164.65,173.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e We're talking about a license for the police just to go through your trash. You Through all of the papers you throw away and you try looking for stuff. in order to search the house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=173.49,181.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The issue is, do I, do you have a reasonable expectation that that trash that you throw away is going to be secure and no one is going to be looking through it? I don't think you can say that you are reasonable to expect that that trash is going to be secure. Children go through trash, vagrants go through trash, animals go through trash. When I throw it out in the trash, I know that I am giving up dominion over it and it's fair game. Maybe they're different for this reason. Thanks. I know that I am giving up the minion over here, and it's fair game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=182.22,207.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me make it difficult for this reason. We have no other way of destroying things that we need to destroy to maintain our privacy except for trash. Oh no, you're wrong. And although... Oh, you're wrong. there are times when people in an unwarranted and unpredictable way get into our trash, so to speak. That isn't what we expect. That's not the normal thing. Our normal expectation is that when we throw something away, it's gone for all...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=208.59,233.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well that's the point, when we throw it away we don't expect that it is ours any longer and so we've thrown it out, anybody has access to it. That don't mean that anybody has access to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=233.24,240.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Eddie, you talk about children going through trash. They are certainly not looking for the same thing that the FBI or police or whatever it is would look for. You're talking about dogs going through trash. They're certainly not looking for things. I mean, that's a ridiculous assumption. Anybody could take things that would be illegal, whether it's drugs or anything else, like this yacht that was out and was rented to other people who, if they did smoke... The monkey business? Well, yes. I mean, it does not have to necessarily... you can you can search these people and they can say they don't have anything on them. Well, you rent the boat and somebody that's ridiculous. Dogs and children zero time can take things and put it in your to anybody can put anything in anybody's trash. They want in the middle of the night. Well, that's a point in business.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=242.219,255.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You have to understand what the Fourth Amendment protects. It protects against unreasonable search and seizure, and the test that the courts use is do I, do you have some kind of, and I hate to repeat it, but I will, reasonable expectation that what you are doing is going to be secure. Well, I think we should have. And the fact that we know that we're giving it up, putting it in the amnesty of anybody. Well, I think we should have. I don't think it's reasonable to think that there's hours in the amnesty. You're saying that the Speaker, you're really going to say... Well, I think we should have. Well, I think we should have. Well, I don't think it's great.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=282.189,303.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You're saying that it becomes, in essence then, a public game. Reporters, the fourthest state really are the first that ever started to look through people's trash. reporters in this Reporters started to look through people's trash now the police. I guarantee they don't like like looking through the trash The only thing that bothers me again. I love to see drug runners arrested, but I'm wondering now I don't like to see the police able to say well We know this guy is dirty So let's just get some coke throw it in this trash find it in there and then use that as an excuse to go into the house","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=305.11,338.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Or let me ask you a question that I think, because you can't answer it, you'll see the point. question another issue. Suppose you have some private correspondence that you don't want anybody to see. What do you do with it? Well, so now the standard in America is, now you have to burn it, or now you have to have a paper shredder. Now that isn't the American tradition, and that isn't what Americans up to the point of this decision reasonably thought they had to do to destroy something. You're saying that once it's thrown... in America, now you have to burn it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=337.72,358.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Once it's thrown away, it's history. That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=370.39,372.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. It ought to be. Well, we have the power. Only a stupid person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=372.11,377.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Holy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=378.47,378.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You know what? I've seen it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=379.12,380.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e You know what, I think, what's wonderful, I mean, I think...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=379.03,382.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e What's wonderful, I mean, I live in a high -rise. Anybody in this 22 -story high -rise can throw anything down the chute. So I can just see a bevy of policemen or FBI men or whatever it is investigating all the trash and then coming to 120 apartments. But that's another issue. It is another issue. In New York City, many, many people live in apartment houses in Baltimore, too, but especially in New York. But that's another issue. It isn't another issue in New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=380.98,400.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e know, but in Baltimore, too, but especially in New York. But what you're saying is another issue. What you suggested, I don't remember was Billy or Tom suggested that anyone can put something but that's not the issue. Of course, anyone can Yes! Absolutely! But then - To me that is -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=403.61,417.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e To me that is the issue. That's why I brought it up. If it wasn't the issue I wouldn't have brought it up. That's why I brought it up. If it wasn't the issue, I wouldn't have brought it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=416.94,420.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I understand that you think it's the issue. However, the issue is one of privacy. What is yours and what is subject to discovery or access by the state? Have a good night. Have a good night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=421.33,431.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Hold it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=432.18,432.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's yours because it's private in your house. I understand that. No, it wasn't in the house. And if someone tries to put something in your car, in your house as well, so the fact that someone tries to put something in your trash... but it's yours because it's private in your house. Then you are in a predicament. That's why it's a show. you are in a predicament.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=432.74,446.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e But surely you see the distinction. You can lock your car.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=449.02,451.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e You can lock your house. You can lock your house. Of course.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=452.33,453.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e You can't lock your trash. And so that is something that heretofore, I guarantee you, you polled 90 % of America, they'd say, of course I expected that people can't rummage through my garbage. Now the Supreme Court said, hey, fellas, all the time you thought that you'd have power in your garbage. You were wrong. Well, let me just say this. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=454.13,472.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, how stupid were these people to put drug paraphernalia in their garbage to begin with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=472.23,476.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I guarantee you that just about everybody who smokes marijuana, if they don't throw it down the toilet... It's going down there now. I guess, I guarantee you this. It's going down there now. The toilet is not sacrosanct even so they can actually put a filter on your toilet","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=476.68,489.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e I know it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=489.78,490.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e And no, no, they can't. There's a case on that your feces are not sacrosanct either. Fortunately, not because it stinks. Are you kidding me? This is one of your cases, Murphy. There's a Maryland case which says that you can even analyze a person's feces, that he has no privacy even in his feces. You agree with that? There's a Maryland case. Do I agree with it? Sure, what about you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=490.44,508.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On that note, we'll pause for just this moment. Thank you very much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=508.1,511.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, now we're going to talk about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=625.3,626.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, now we're going to talk about, hold it, guys, last weekend's horrible accident down in Kentucky where 27 people on a school bus, mostly students returning from an amusement park, were burned to death or died of smoke inhalation as a result of a fire in an accident with an alleged drunk driver who was driving a pickup truck in the wrong direction. And now the state of Kentucky, the prosecutor there, is going to ask that this man be 27 counts of murder. then receive the death penalty. We'd like to know how you feel about that. This is a very controversial issue, Tom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=624.22,658.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e yes i think that uh... i hope that he's given the death penalty it was a horrible accident a terrible loss of life but there will be some slick attorney who's going to come along and tried to say that he didn't have his faculties he was temporarily out of his mind and he is not guilty","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=658.73,673.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I hope he gets up. The sooner they can get him in the chair, the better. As soon as they can get him in the chair, the better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=673.95,676.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think the attorney has to be suspected. Of course, he presumes the facts in the case. Right, of course. And he's being open and neutral about it. Are you telling me? 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Well, then you're not going to comment on it, because you don't know about these.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=685.68,690.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e and he doesn't make his lawyer slick. Oh, well his lawyer will have a good chance of having a slick lawyer. I know that you're both members of the bar. Well, look at him. So, you may get a little upset, but there will be a slick lawyer trying to look out for this guy. 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But make sure he gets some...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=708.54,710.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e off the hook.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=710.57,710.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You say that in a pejorative way, that there'll be a select lawyer. What you're really saying is that there'll be a lawyer looking out for this man's rights. I am as appalled by this as all of us are and any right -thinking person, but you have to question whether it is appropriate to give someone the death penalty for a crime of this sort. And of course, it is a crime. And remember... murder and the kind of murder that we get the death penalty to usually involve some kind of intentional act and i'd question that this one obviously it wasn't intentional on this man's part and because there are twenty seven people involved only accentuates horrible it was but would you be as worked up uh... if there were one if there was more","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=711.31,755.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course, absolutely. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=754.77,756.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Here's the thing, you know what you're going to... I'm not protecting... I'm not... Hold it, hold it. To me there is something... On this side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=757.47,762.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e To me there is something irrational about condemning a behavior which has the same mental state that is being drunk in a car egregiously more seriously simply because by happenstance the drunk ran into a school bus instead of running off the side of the road hitting a parked car. Now, that's number one. Number two, in Maryland... we wouldn't permit the death penalty under these circumstances because the maximum offense is automobile manslaughter. Why do you feel about that? Because, as Mr. Gutman pointed out, Because, as Mr. You have to have an intent to kill. And it's god -fool that this man had an intent to kill. All right, somebody come here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=759.03,799.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Let me ask you this, and then I'll let you. Let's ask this question. Should a drunk driver who kills someone in an accident be tried for murder rather than I'll be on Man of Slaughter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=798.76,809.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, if that's what the law, no, the legislature can pass a law.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=809.41,812.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What's your opinion about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=812.82,814.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, what's my opinion about that? I don't want to give the impression that I, in any way, condone what happened. It was horrible beyond words, but I question how many of us have not driven down the street after we had a glass or two of wine? Can I say something? I have. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Maybe all of us have. How many of us have jumped in a pick -up truck? but I question what happens. Well, wait a minute. Whoa, whoa. Maybe all of us could have it. How many of us have jumped in to our pickup truck?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=814.65,834.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Make your point, Elaine. The point is this, Eddie. This individual, first of all... I'm out of here. got drunk, jumped into a pickup truck, and went down the wrong lane of an interstate highway and killed 27 -year -old Ryan, and asked his right to live.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=835.32,848.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e 27. His master's right to live. All the lawyers are talking. I represent the common man, please, and woman, and woman.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=846.19,853.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 7:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=854.13,854.8"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I would like to really, because I'm not a lawyer. All I know is that I see many, many nights a week people who have too much to drink. They get in their car and they are driving a long distance. They hope that they will make it. Most of the time they do. I know three or four people that have been making it for many years. They've been very lucky. They must drive with their fingers crossed or something. The point is when that man got into the pickup truck and was intoxicated, I'm sure he thought that he was going to make it through the drunken stupor. he was wrong and i do think it would be a fabulous lesson for anybody who was drunk and drives because the one thing that the person who gets in the car never thinks about is the responsibility as a driver","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=855.12,898.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 6:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=899.02,899.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e He or she only thinks about the fact that I'm going to make it home, whether it's the Greenspring Valley, whether it's Bolton Hill, no matter where it is, or Pennsylvania. I'm going to make it home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=899.08,908.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think they think about making it home, I think they think about...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=907.6,909.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, I want to finish my point. So the thing is that, you know, we have not put to death people that have committed horrible crimes. Horrible crimes. I mean, Charles Manson and that whole group, they're in jail. They might come, I mean, it's so that I think that is, I am for the death penalty when it comes to these horrible... terrible acts and violations that people, but I don't know in this case whether you can honestly use this one man as an example to maybe teach everybody else a lesson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=910.37,940.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Wait a minute presents a very interesting social question should we subject the cigarette manufacturers who know that they're selling a cancer -causing agent to the death No, because it's because they do that is habit for me. No, it's not a choice Elaine because they know No, they've known the nicotine is as addictive as heroin and cocaine and once people get hooked it doesn't have mine No, because it because that is habit forming joy. Not a choice Elaine because they've known","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=940.58,953.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It doesn't have mind altering. It does not have mind altering. It kills you. It kills you. It kills you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=959.04,964.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Should we subject the liquor dealers who know that they're selling to a population? People that have high blood pressure can eat salt and that can kill them too. I'm not talking about them. I am talking about where we have a significant social problem caused by the product and the use thereof and where everybody knows in advance it causes this problem. Well, they've done it with gun dealers. Should the liquor dealers be subjected to the death penalty for selling the stuff? Hold it, hold it. Should bar owners be subjected to the death penalty? They are. They are. They are. They are smart. I'm not talking about them, I am talking about them. We've done it with gun dealers!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=961.6,982.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e They have passed laws, and I don't know if they'll stand up, that hold the manufacturer of guns culpable for crimes committed. We just repealed that law in Maryland. Yes, but they still passed it. Emotionally, emotionally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=987.23,999.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Emotionally, I would not be bothered in the least if this man were given the death penalty. What he did was worse than what Charles Manson did. Worse than what Charles Manson did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=998.46,1008.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Because of the number. Because it wasn't intentional. Just a moment. It was lack of responsibility. 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They're the ones who are out on the highway in a menace and too often killing people. I'm not certain that executing this man is going to have an effect on the rest of the crash. The crackdowns they've had. Well, I think that the crackdowns they've had...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=1015.62,1056.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, he's an alcohol addict. Because alcoholism is a disease. Some people have a greater predisposition to another. This brings us back to your question. What then? Well, this... Some people have a greater predisposition to another. 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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=1093.23,1095.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course it is, and it's a combination today. It will satisfy... It's a combination. And another thing... 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And look, we're all human, we do like to get revenge, but I question the bottom line.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=1102.51,1123.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On Monday night, ladies and gentlemen, as you know, if you're following the news, reading the paper, you know that on Monday night the very controversial gay rights bill is most likely going to pass through the Baltimore City Council. The bill would make it illegal to discriminate on the grounds of sexual orientation. And I guess we could just go around starting with you, Eddie, as we do when we open the show. If you were a city council member on Monday night, would you vote for or against the gay rights bill.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=1123.42,1149.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would vote for it. I would vote for it. I don't believe the arguments that have been advanced against the bill make any sense and I would definitely vote for it. 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You're going to bring up your pedophile business. First of all, a brief... Alright, I think we should vote against it. All right. simply because it's a terrible priority when this city doesn't have a fair housing bill and we put your anti -gay. That's what it's all about. That is true. I would of course vote for it. 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Elaine, will you please keep quiet? You always use it. Yes, I'm going to do it again. Elaine, you are out of order. No, Elaine, can you please keep quiet? You always use it. Yes, I'm going to do it again. Elaine, you are out of order.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=1226.57,1236.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Now, when you see the elementary school teacher in the Nambla contingent of the gay parade I haven't heard it yet. Now, when? Make it plain. When? You see the... holding up his sign saying sex before eight or it's too late under this law the kurt schmoke pay off the gay community bill uh... you're not going to be able to fire him from the elementary school job well that's not true that is true no no no it is not against the law Oh no, only if you engage it. That is true. No, no, no. What the hell is going on? against the law. What about the law? What about the law? Oh no, only if you engage in it. But he never talks about the head of the... You mean the act? Yes, and I'm not, it could be a, it could be a, it could be a, it could be a heterosexual in the parade. The foundation of our society is... I just asked you, can you fire him from the job? 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Tom, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=1288.88,1293.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay then, you can have the pedophile at the elementary school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=1291.41,1294.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e When ever we talk about gay rights, you constantly bring up, you bring up pedophile. Yes, I do. You never talk about the heterosexual teacher who seduces the young girl. Just as bad. But you never mention that. But what about him saying it's just as bad? Can he defy? He was marching in a parade that said, I don't know anything. You probably wouldn't take, or you wouldn't be, you wouldn't take it as a fetish. Oh, yes I would. You're wrong. Let me finish one statement. You could talk a dog off a meat wagon. I won't get to say anything. No, the whole thing is about gay prejudice. You're wrong. The people that don't want the gay rights bill are anti -gay. You're anti -gay. That is not true. You bring up, you bring up pedophile. ever talk about the heterosexual This is bad. But what about him saying it's okay? Can he defy? Yes, I would. You're wrong! You're totally wrong! You could talk a dog off a meat wagon, I won't get to say anything. You're wrong!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=1293.87,1331.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That is not true. Wait a minute. She has made a terrible chart. That is just not true. I'm not... Elaine, please. We're not getting paid by the word. Just let me say this. You could not fire a pedophile from an elementary school for expressing his desire for little boys in a parade. We're not talking about... I didn't - You made a terrible choice. I'm not We haven't finished with Elaine's part. We have 30 seconds left in the... We're not talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343#t=1335.69,1355.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144632/file/267343/transcript/77335/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 5:\u003c/strong\u003e The short answer is you can't fire him now. We're not talking about. 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A letter from Raymond Lotz from Denton, Maryland on a recent show. The ministers on your show stated that Jimmy Swaggart should be forgiven for his sins and return to the pulpit. How about the felons in jail? Should we forgive them and return them to the outside life just because they say they're sorry? And a regular writer, Eric Allen, Owings Mills Maryland writes, next time for God's sake throw in a priest and a rabbi. The recent state of Israel and the turmoil in Northern Ireland would make a much better debate than Jesse Jackson and Jimmy Swagger. We would love to hear from you. Would you please write us this address? I'm sure that you have some feelings about what you saw and heard tonight. The address is Square Off, WJZ TV, Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland, 21211. 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