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Please join us next on City Line. It's 12:00 and we're live on City Line. I'm Jackie Hall. And I'm Dan Hensen. Public housing, what's right with it? According to the city housing authorities, public housing provides decent housing at very nominal rents for more than 50,000 city residents. Public housing. What's wrong with it? According to many tenants in public housing and their advocates, it is the breeding grounds for criminals, roaches and rats and a host of other problems. On today's edition of City Land, we'll be discussing public housing as it exists in Baltimore City with Pauline Watkins of the likes of Lafayette Courts and Ernestine Wideman of of Lexington Terrace. Jesse Jackson gets a pretty big boost to his presidential bid. I'm t Montero. I'll have a full report. My name is Tim Watts. And today on the entertainment page, we meet a Baltimoreans who is in a brand new movie with Mr. T and Don King and Michael Jackson are getting ready to make some big money together. Our discussion is public housing with Pauline Watkins and Ernestine Wideman on this edition of City Line called Hell in the High Rise. Please join us next on City Line. Welcome to city Life. As you know, the topic is held in the high rise and it has to do with public housing in Baltimore City. We recently took the City Line cameras to one of the public housing units here in Baltimore City to listen to the residents tell their story. According to the housing Authority of Baltimore City, public Housing provides a decent place to live for more than 50,000 Baltimoreans and is operated by a program that is modeled nationwide, encompassing five basic farms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=62.88,252.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Low rise developments, walk up apartments, housing for senior citizens, rehabilitated housing and high rises. Public housing has been a part of Baltimore's community development since 1937. Today, most residents are the young and the elderly. Those under 18 make up 48% of the population, while those 62 and over are 11.6%. The average family size is three persons, 50% of whom are headed by single parents. 89.3% of the residents are black, 10.7% white and others. The average income level is $3,798, as compared to $14,200 for most city residents. Public housing dwellers pay no more than 30% of their income for rent, with a balance provided by federal subsidy. While a resident's rent can range as high as $190 a month, the average rent is approximately $75.71. Beyond these statistics, however, are families who, like most of us, are concerned about their family's well-being and safety. We talked with several residents about their living conditions, and here's what they had to say. This is not a homeless is a prison to me. We are incarcerated. We just like we know that little thing about the legal town. When I came here, there was, like I say, my size was running everywhere. Even when I came in here, my were no parent in this place at all. But they were my hero in this race. And then they had all these homes. You know, just like somebody race to the corners and stuff of the walls and water hoses everywhere. The condition of the place, the screen, as you saw my screen when you come in, it's been that way since I've been here. And me and my child got cut on that because it tears our clothes and everything, but no one to fix these things. I caught up a lot of holes in my home to keep the roaches out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=253.41,379.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It seems like the more you talk about, the more comes out, you know? They come in and they spray spray. If someone upstairs, real roaches, run to your house, even though you just sprayed. So you can't you just can't get away from because I don't know how they're running all of them out. And they seem like they just come in the front door. Now, I had to contact the health department because the hygiene of the place was so terrible. We have like a community basement and it's cats, rats and anything else you can name under there. And when it rained, when I first moved in here, it rained so much and I was like sick constantly. Not only me leaning over the toilet, one of my kids over the tub because the smell of cats and that water dampness coming from the basement, it just made us sick. And I was getting to the point where I felt like I was going crazy because Muskat told me that they was going to fix the place up, you know? And like I said, I was satisfied with the place because it was more room and that's what I needed. Nobody would do anything for me. All these windows are up in here because there is too much heat. The heat is dry. And I mean, we get heat 95, 200 degrees in here. It's too hot. And then we had to put the windows that keeps everybody for a cold. They walk around here in shorts and stuff where it's cold outside and they. Well, that. That bothers me. Go him gunshots again as a rival. Maybe do it too much everyday. Oh, no, I was a they do a lot of shooting around here during the day, broad daylight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=380.43,484.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You never I never said who was doing the shooting. We're right in the parking lot there. We shoot in broad daylight. No kids should be outside. People be running behind the trees, you know. But I've never seen too many people get, you know, arrested. I started writing letters. I wrote a letter to. I wrote a letter to Mitchell. I also sent a letter to the housing authority. Okay. After I got one reply. And that was Vampire Matthew. Um, after that, I waited a while and. I got a letter from my son's doctor. One state and his condition and what he think is causing it, which was the high Jews and and roaches and malts and all these things that he was allergic to. He at that time requested that they move us after he developed a rare infection. He demanded us to be moved from that unit. That was in August. We are still waiting to be moved. Now, I realize that the security guards are mostly women and they don't have no authority. Even the men, knowing they have authorities to really get out there and say, Hey, you can't come in. I think I did. The lady was out there in the booth and then she asked a gentleman who he came to see and he took one on her down business. She said, Well, what's your name, sir? She said. They said, They're not my name. They just open the bathroom door and right away at your door. Now who knows what was on his mind? Who knows if he lived there or not? Who was he going there to harm somebody? That's what I'm saying. That. That I see with my own eyes. And that's bad, because that means that everybody can come in from whoever, wherever, and walk out this building.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=485.06,595.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm scared. When I get off the elevators at night, I'm scared someone's going to jump behind me. And I'm just I'm confused, you know? I'm I'm confused. You know, sometimes I'd be wanting to hurt myself because I'm just skate and they don't want to help me. There's no place for the children to play. You're stuck in these little bitty walls here, and it's seemingly like a prison. You see early. And this is like a coffin. You see it in. Price. People bring your groceries. You have a time in the girls because they always just kind of sleep broke or they're stuck up on some floor and you can't get to it, you know, they can't come down on you. Then you've got a possibility of people like old people getting their food stolen while they're waiting on their bags. I've seen that happen. And nobody said anything about it. I'll be walking my dog. And outside the 221 building, you'll see a lot of big rat holes, like 15 rat holes. Looked like the size of a jar. And you see rats like they're playing games, you know, and they'd be running in and out the hole, you know? And if you go towards them, they. They don't even run. I feel like. I feel like I'm a prisoner. You know, I can't go anywhere. I can't do nothing. I feel like I have no control of my own life. When one time I used to have control of my life and. It does. It does a lot of things to me mentally and. Also, I would say. Clean this place up. You know, clean. This place is filthy. You know, I feel like the inmates at the penitentiary are living better than we are, and that's not fair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=596.08,700.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In order to set up the discussion, we've invited several residents of public housing in Baltimore City to be with us this afternoon. First of all, Polly Watkins is a resident of Lafayette Court and we're happy to have you with us today. And Ernestine Wideman is a resident of Lexington Terrace. Let me, first of all, however, point out that you at home can join in our discussion by calling us at 4113 13, that's 41, 13, 13. And we had an also invited another party to the show. That party, being a representative of the housing authority of Baltimore City is 1:00 Harris, who is the director of the Division of Housing Management. She sent a letter to us, which we received last Friday, and I'd like to just read a a breakout from the letter, just a part of it. While we recognize that there are problems in public housing, particularly in our family high rise buildings, discussion of only the negative serves to seriously distort the public's understanding of our program. In addition, such a presentation is unfair to those many residents who have benefited from public housing and take pride in their community. We're sorry that Miss Harris could not be with us today. However, we intend to have our discussion with the residents earnestly. Let me just ask you, coming out of the tape that you just saw. Is that an accurate representation of what goes on in the high rises of Baltimore City? Yes. What is a one sided view? Everything that was shown there was true. But on the other hand, there are things that are going on in our community that we could do that could. Inspire them to do better things and faster things. And we do have rats and roaches, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=705.26,799.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If there's immediate problem in your home, then I think there's things that you can do. You know, like boric acid for your roaches, caulking. Mousetraps if you have a bigger problem, because if you have to deal with the problem or you feel that you have to leave and most people can't afford to leave. So you're saying essentially that the residents need to do more on their own, in their own home? I think if this is my apartment and I'm having trouble and I go down to the making office and I say, can I have some road spray? And they give me rosemary and this doesn't do a sufficient job, then it's up to me to do something else. I can go over and complain, but the voters are still going to be there with my house. So I say, Well, I'm going out and do something better. I'm going to thank you, Pauline. How do you respond? First, I'd like to comment on the letter that was an A one night Miss Harris from the city. First of all, I didn't think she would show up because that's the game they usually play. I wouldn't show up either if I knew I was lying because she said it. There's a lot of negative thoughts and it's a lot of people, tenants there that agree that it's positive things. I've been in Lafayette Project for ten years and yes, I am filled up with a lot of negative things because management does not care anything about the tenants, the residents, their safety, their health or anything else. And again, about you, you see, and about the roaches. Sure, you should clean up your apartment, but you clean up all you want in the project. When you got 11 floors or 14 floors where everybody stacked on top, one tenant sprays, the roaches, go someplace else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=799.61,890.19"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, they just go and travel back and forth. The mice come all through your pipe. So what are you supposed to do about that? Well, I've never had trouble with my life. And, ladies, I'm glad that you raised some of the issues. We're just going to take a break right now and come right back. And we want to get into exactly what you've said and expand on those points from both sides. If you'd like to join in our discussion, please call us at 41, 13, 13. We're going to take a break and come right back. We're back on city land. And the subject, obviously, is public housing in Baltimore City policy. Just before we went to a break, you had indicated that management management being the city in this case, you felt that they were lying. Yes. And they are sorry because, for example, maintenance on the elevators always broke. Right. Okay. When the elevators are broke in Lafayette, there are six high rise buildings. The high rise buildings have 11 floors from 11th floor to the first floor. They are 100 steps that a person have to walk either up or down. Okay. If you downstairs, let's say you catch the elevator to go to the store and just to the market. An example is myself. I have three children. One is a baby, a ten month old baby. We have gotten on the elevator and went downstairs to go to the market. There's the elevator. I mean, me, the three children, what is in a stroller and a shopping cart. When we come back, the elevators are broken and the only way you can get upstairs to the ninth floor is to walk that shop. How long will the. Sometimes elevators may stay broke for a whole week, and they are claiming that they have cold.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=890.85,1069.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What is it? Elevator repair people, you know. Okay, I have called the maintenance shop and reported the elevators are not working and they claim that they never got a report. And so you see things like elevators breaking down on a regular occurrence. And then you said that there are a lot of things that the residents could do for themselves. That's one of the things they can't do for themselves. Somebody else has to come to fix the elevator. You would agree with that. Let's bring in the caller from my home. Good afternoon. Your live on City Line. Do you have a comment or question? Yes, I could have a comment. For one thing, I think management need to do more of what they're doing now and the tenants can do 50% of what they're not doing. If they both pull together, I'm quite sure that they can make it more livable. Ernestine calling her. I have been living here for ten years. I live next to the incinerator. And how about tenants do this? I scrub that. Are you because I cannot stand it trash. And I feel okay. The terms that I do not square the other tenants on my floor. You. You personally scrub the incinerator. We have use also pad anomaly management does not come in a square and that's their job. A lot of times they will not even pick up the trash if we don't pick it up and clean it up. Even the elevators we scrub and washed in them, they do not do it. Okay. Thank you for that call. Let's take another call. Good afternoon. Your live on City Line. Hello. Yes, go ahead, please. Yes. This picture you showed on TV. Yes. In the women's is correct.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=1071.14,1160.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And not only that, the management could do more like the leader said, than what he is doing. The management know the drug addicts hang outside buildings, hang in them building, and they don't do nothing. I have been to the man myself on numerous occasions and asked him when I got off of work, couldn't he pick up the phone and call the police and call a narcotics people? He acted, so he just needed that job for 8 hours just to be there, to work, call to go to work. They had the job because the welfare and game of the job, they not in the rest they are in with the dope and they sell dope right out of them boots. And then you're saying that the management sells dope? Yes, they do. Okay. Yes, they do. And the people is not lying. What they saying on his program? Why do you think there is, other than the fact that you're saying that management is involved in selling, why do you think they say the man was involved in sales? As I said, that the people who live in the high rises is the God and the people who live in the high rise. Why is it then that we can't that something can't be done about it, that it can't be cleaned up? Calls the management. The people working office will let you know. They just don't come out and say it. They are just there for a job and they they tell you they don't want to get involved. You don't want to have to do to call. And I comes in many days after 4:00 and call the police and narcotics people and the man who most of them know what's going on up there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=1161.2,1247.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right. When you call the police, do they come? Yes, they do. The narcotics people have really been good. They really have. They really haven't been on numerous occasions. You know, I have. Thank you. CALLER, I understand you said you agree with everything she's saying or yes, there are drugs in the area and yes, they will come in. They will definitely come in when there's drugs. They will definitely I mean, the police and media will definitely come into any public housing. The minute that there's any drugs mentioned, murder or anything else, negative. But if you give a benefit show to benefit those people in your community, you can not get one line in the paper and you can't get one camera down there to cover it. And that's a positive thing. I work with my community and there's a lot of positive things that go on in our community that we don't get any coverage. Yes, there's rats and drugs and all those negative things that don't say that these things don't exist. But I don't think there's a basis to. To say, Well, this is the way your life is or. Everything negative. Everything negative, everything negative. Because everything is not negative. There's a lot of people that are glad to have a little cement blocks for 52 or $55 a month rent because they can't afford to have nowhere else. You have to have a stepping stone in public housing. Is it not to cut you short? Sure. A lot of us cannot do any better and we have no other place to go. But in not having any other place to go, I don't think it's fair to us to be stacked up like a can of sardines. Okay. We have to read those things in elevators that are nasty all the time to go in management office day off as you will not see a roach in the best maintenance personnel works for management is spotless in there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=1247.93,1347.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The floors are always waxed and clean. If you got a repair job, for instance, if your refrigerator goes up in your apartment, you got a baby, you don't want your milk messed up. You know, those management don't care about you. If they have a refrigerator, go up in the middle of this because they have a refrigerator stove. Everything that we basically have they have of it is well kept. They'll get over there and fix that, but not for what's in it. Okay. Past, do you want to take a question from the audience for I should not be there, period, because management is lax. That's Mr. Brody, Mayor. Say all day, don't give a shit about nobody can know better. Let me take the question from the audience. Yes, sir. Yes. My name is Lee Patterson, and I'm here representing the People's Congress, an organization who is working with the high strikers and is on their side 100% on this issue. I have a comment and then I have a question with whoever the question goes to will come to how I feel after I finish my statement. There's so much talk about crime, so much in these days, crime, this crime that drugs this drugs that the best crime prevention program that a lot of people believe that can put an end to the so called crime problem is employment. There's so much about locking people up, doing this and doing that. The city has its priorities with. Okay. We're going to have to ask you, sir, to kind of get to the point that you want to make because of the time restraint, the city the city has its priorities with the harbor and not enough prize with the people who actually live there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=1348.91,1439.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Don't they think that all the money. My question goes to the woman here who's representing the city. Don't you think that. Well, wait a minute. I think no one here represents that he is representing the city. I am a resident well, a reputable resident who who feels positively about the public housing then love where I live. I love my home. I like my neighbors. And I'm going to tell you that that is wrong in our community can be corrected if our community itself get all three lazy bums don't organize themselves to do something about what anybody would do. Do you have a question that I like? A basic question. I can finish the question, please. This is this is supposed to be free speech here, right? Answer question. My question is, don't you think that that money that they have all on the Charleston innovation and all the projects can be used to renovate the 1500 vacant houses and people in the city who need it? Are you making a speech short? You're asking the question. I'm asking the question. Okay. Don't you think that they could provide they could be straightened? Sure. Absolutely. Okay. Let's let's go to the second telephone call. Thank you. Yes. Good afternoon. Your line, one city line. Do you have a question or comment? Yes, I do. Go ahead, please. This is Sarah. I'm calling about the rats and a roaches. And the junkies can't get in the house for the junkies. They're sitting all on the steps. Okay, Now, we've already talked about that. Do you have anything new to add to the discussion that has been mentioned several times, in fact, not already. Thank you for calling us to say something certain. Everywhere you go, just about you have a drug problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=1440.8,1528.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The drug problem. I'm not guilty. It's not bad and it's not serious. That is not is serious to me as me having to come out my door and look at that nasty incinerator and attack that we're supposed to be. Our little children can play. They can play there because there's holes all in offensive things, you know, And you afraid because anybody could get off the elevators and hurt your children or yourself. Or when you get on the elevators, you have to be greeted with is the public toilet, the trash that the maintenance man left the that he's being paid to clean up. And maybe this trash has been there for a whole week and all of a sudden they got a wind that somebody might come and get a firsthand look at that. So they clean up us. Yeah, that's what goes on. You would never come. Well, I don't think they clean that. I don't think they cleaned up exactly facility like Yeah they cleaned up some. You don't live there. I live there. Okay. Yeah that was a little bit clean, but it's still poorly. Let me take let me take a break now. Let me come back and let you continue. Okay. And I cut you off. Let me just take a break right after this. Now, here's this week's community calendar. If your group or organization would like to announce an event, please write us in care of City Line WJC TV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland 212, one one. Or call us for further information at 4660013. Between the hours of nine and five. I topic is hell in the high rise. It is a discussion of public housing in Baltimore City and we're talking with two residents. To my immediate left is Pauline Watkins of Lafayette Court, a resident of ten years of Lafayette Court, and Ernestine Wideman, a resident of 25 years of Lexington Terrace.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=1529.24,1802.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ernestine, before the break, you said this is not quoting you verbatim, but something that you said. You said that a part of the problem is that the residents won't get off their duffs and do anything about it, implying that they're lazy. Yes. I have heard people who are not residents of public housing say the same thing and you sound like them. Why do you say it since you're an insider saying that? I say it because, like, it's easy for you to pick up a phone and call management and complain. I mean, you have a right to. If there is something that's not going right, then you should call public housing. You should get on their backs. But yet there are certain things like. When I first moved into the projects, we didn't have a overall dress problem because everybody felt inspired. It was new, it was public housing. And boy, we're glad to really have somewhere to live where we can afford to live and raise our kids. But somewhere along the line, everybody morale became. Disoriented because of the media bad publicity. Now they talk about the area being dirty. I can remember when those areas were kept immaculate. But half of the problem I mean, half of the solution was the residents. You know, we had clean blown. You see them as the part of the park? Absolutely. You have to take pride in wherever you live with its public housing or a condominium held in the high rise. You know, down with hell rise mean high rises. We don't need them. But yet they study building condominiums. They have people next to them and all room fenced in like prisons. You understand me? But there you rent me, you buying a piece of rock.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=1804.25,1899.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And here I'm written a piece. And of course I'm written. People seem to say, Oh, well, the city's going to dump anything into public housing. Then I think public housing should screen their tenants a little bit more carefully. You understand what I mean? Because I've seen the residents change. What is the screening procedure now? Well, I think it's there is none. I think they're right at the very last right leg. Is it that any right on need should should there be? I think there should be. I think you should be screened. You don't. I think that people should be screened and not based on need. Not really, because it's people in need that. No, I'll take that back. Yes. Most of us that are there, we are on fixed incomes. Then you have persons that are working but in work and they make small amounts of money. They can just barely survive. Okay. And again, the need. But it's not no screening period at all. But there used to be more money. Okay. Let's take a break and we're going to come back and continue our discussion on public housing. We're back on city land. The discussion is public housing in Baltimore City and with Pauline Watkins from Lafayette Quartz and Ernestine Wideman from Lexington Terrace. And I want to go to a question from the audience. Yes, ma'am. Good afternoon. My name is Marie Dorsey. I'm an activist and also a member of the All People's Congress and the People's Anti-war Mobilization. I lived in Lafayette projects myself. My question or comment is directed to Ernestine Whiteman, and what I would like to say is she. Yes, she points out, you know, and says that the people lose their fault, the president is fault.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=1900.05,2090.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But first of all, there is a conspiracy against our people as poor and oppressed and especially blacks. Do you know that there was a study done with rats one time when they put to rest together and when they saw of these rats, you know, will multiply and they want to know what effect would this have if this cage come over. We have to ask you is limited to a question short on time. Right. But I'm just letting her know that. Do you have to see? Yes. And I want to know, how can she expect for people to fight this monstrous problem? The problem is too much for people to actually fight. They got to be be aware there is a conspiracy against them as a race of people, first of all. And the United States should be held responsible and not mean a niece of the massacre. Answer. Well, I'm not here for to talk about conspiracies. I'm here to talk about public housing. But she she if there is a conspiracy going on now, you should be aware because you have 25 years and maybe that's why you're not aware. But see, I'm sure you don't have a good 25 years with me. And I'm not going to let anyone in this audience turn my head around because I know what positive things can do in a community. If you are strong enough to stay there and say, Look, things are going to be done and they can be done the right way. If you don't do that, if nobody else going a good man who's not going to do it, you have to make management do what you want, not let man make you do. Okay, Paul, you want himself a very positive resident.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=2090.929,2173.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have participated in many activities in my particular project, but you have to be very realistic. Housing is in violation. We have a space and occupancy code where each women, the head of household, should have 150 square feet of space, which most of us don't. Each additional occupant one year and older should have 90 square feet of the Baltimore City housing in Baltimore City. So you say this is in violation. I know a persons which is like adult and maybe six children piled up in one in two bedrooms. That's the health code right there. That's a health violation. Okay. Most of the people in public housing in a high rise have severe respiratory problems, heart problems, you know, all kinds of conditions. And they should not be picked up, you know, like sardines. Okay. Let's take another question from the audience. Hi, your live on City Line. Hello? Do you have a comment? Hello? Yes, please go ahead. Yes, I would like to make a statement in regards to understanding. Mm hmm. Go ahead, please. I lived in public housing for 30 years. When I lived there, I had roaches. The tenant automation had roaches, mice and a census. But before I left out of public housing. I was able to get rid of all of my roaches. Archive to I have round and dirty the trash lying around and everything that's come from the tenants. Housing. Housing Authority does not put all of this trust around that the tenants will pull together and see to it that their cars or home ever dispose of the trash with properly supposed to be. Then you wouldn't have this problem at public housing. Get an album link to get up on my feet. That was the purpose of me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=2174.24,2288.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"More of it. And there are more positive people that are willing to work together that it could be a better community. So you agree with. You agree with Ernestine? Many people myself. Okay. Pauline, let me ask let me ask you a question. Is there in your in your development, is there a tenants organization that looks out for the building? No, just the people that live there. On my particular flew in and our building, we have people that live in that building. It has been in the ten years that I have and we have clean and clean and, you know, work together. It's all the tenants know because, like I say, a lot of the tenants are sick. They have respiratory problems. You have all the people that live in. What percentage of the tenants would you say have joined you in these endeavors? We take it's different times. Okay. Like maybe today, me and maybe three people on my floor. People live. How many? How many apartments in the building? Oh, God. I think is 110 apartments in there. All I know is 11 floors, and it's about 10 to 11 apartments. So you're only talking about one floor of residents who are involved. We we basically work, you know, there. But you cannot expect people to have sick on medications most of the time. You have asthma people, people with chronic. But can't a larger portion of those residents be involved? Yes. Yes. But we are the ones that are involved and we are involved. But even in being involved. Okay, like we clean incinerator, if we don't get out there and clean it, management does not insist that their maintenance personnel lift their maps or brooms to come in. Well, how about the rest? We have to send a incinerator and tell them take the treatments in already instead of doing damage to the kids, put them in the trash.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=2288.6,2383.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These things these days. Okay. Let me tell you what we're going to in the control, Ernestine, and teach your kids how not to grow. We're going to take a break and come right back. You got to be a mess. We're back One city life. And let me tell you, we very seldom do this. But one of the greatest things about greatest things about live television is that you can make a little bit of a change. And so we're going to continue our discussion on public housing with Pauline Watkins and Ernestine Wideman. And let me go, first of all, to a question from the audience. Yes, ma'am. Yes. My name is Sylvia Foster, and I know back in the first part of September, I went to Mr. Franklin. I lived to 21, Building two, and I asked him for a transfer for me and my church. And I have five children that lives up on the 13th floor, and we do not catch elevators at all. And I do not like to walk two steps. And I dedicated to him that I wanted to move out. I wanted to transfer on a lower ground floor. He told me to go. Go ahead. We're back lap on the city line and we decided to go a little bit longer with that discussion on public housing with Pauline Watkins and Ernestine Wideman. And let me go, first of all, to a question from the audience. Yes, ma'am. Okay. My name is Sylvia Fast, and I live in 221 Fremont Avenue, built into the face. Beginning of September. I went down to my major's man, Mr. Franklin, and I asked him for a transfer because I think I was entitled to one. I have five children all a month and ten, and I live on a 13th floor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=2384.27,2570.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We don't catch the elevators and so on. He requested me to go and get a stop and stay before my son because he's an asthmatic ambulance. I had to come walk up the elevator, take him down the elevator, take him to the hospital. Many times I got stuck on the elevator because with my son. And when he got off, he had went into an asthma attack. This was in September. My doctor wrote the statement to him about my son, telling him to move us immediately from off the ground floors. I haven't heard nothing yet. He had a letter sent to him on the 14th of September, so therefore he did not get in contact with me. I didn't get my letter until later. I had to go over there September the 27, just about just about two and a half months. And then we had to stop waiting for response by telling me enough. And I took the letter to the main. Also, you see this as lack of rigor and what can I do about it? I mean, I don't want to be staying up there with my five children every time we got to look behind our back because somebody tried to break in our house or something like that. It don't make no sense because my children don't catch the elevator, go to school every day, and when they walk up the steps, they taught my son, Hush up. Let me interrupt you. Since yours is an individual problem, it might be good for you to kind of wait until after the show and we'll see what we can do with you. A little problem? Well, no, but we cannot solve our problem here on the air today. But we can air it and we'll talk to you after the show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=2570.89,2648.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're not putting you off, but let us talk to you after the show. Okay. Thank you for sharing it with them. Okay. Now let's go to a call and take another response from our audience at home, your live on City Line. Hello. Yes, go ahead, please. Yes, I would just like to make a comment. And that it is that black people, we can't take our struggles as a race and let that be an excuse for lack of pride. Anywhere that we live, we're going to have to pay money. I don't happen to live in public housing, but I pay $319 a month. And I think that if there's two dumpsters next out in the parking lot and I don't have to go walk down 13 flights of steps either, you know, that you can put that garbage in the dumpster and not next to it. Okay. Thank you so much. And they don't deserve that. Thank you for the comment. Thank you. Let's go to the audience, Bob Cheeks and Bob Cheeks from Welfare rights organization. A comment and just a couple of questions that people here probably can't answer. The last speaker spoke about doctors who have said that children need to get out of the high rises for various health reasons. We have other people in the audience and many people. That's not an isolated situation. What is happening is that Mayor Schaefer and this city administration has ignored it. Now, I have some questions, and I think people need to know who are listening and watching. I have refused to come on this show and sit up here while this lady, who is a tenant who is one of the victims that we're talking about, even though she does not see herself as a victim, I'm not going to sit up here and argue with her and play white folks games, black folk against black folk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=2648.41,2748.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not going to do that. The people that I asked the question. I asked this question of Commissioner Brody, Mayor William Donald Schaefer, Congressman Parren Mitchell, Senator Clarence Mitchell. The delegates from the 39th Legislative Larry Young, Ruth Kirk and Elijah Cummings. Our City council people are the fourth District. Kweisi and Fumi Michael Mitchell and Victoria Adams. And out of the First District, Mimi DiPietro, John Hammett and Donald Schaefer. I. Schaefer with John Schaefer. My question is, why is it that when we talk about high rise housing and the 10,000 people in high rise housing, 90% of whom over 90% of whom are people on fixed income, poor people, and most of them are heads of household, female heads of household and black. Why is this not a greater priority than the inner harbor and sending some fish to Florida? I want the money in high rise housing. I know that the people here can answer that. But that's my question to Mayor Shafer and the rest of these folks with questions of the vacancy. Let me let me ask you a question since I got you here right now. Tell us about the rent strike. All right. The rent strike is something we are going through a process of a legal rent strike, whereas when people file their complaints in writing, insert by certified letter, then they have the right after giving management 30 day notification to withhold that rent. And then the court can establish an escrow or they have a hearing in court. All right. The court has established no, no, because management now has to take our people to court. But people listening need to understand. All they have to do is filed a complaint and then we'll get it into court and then they hold their rent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=2748.79,2856.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right. But have they have you had people actually, as of December 1st withhold their rent? Yes, we have. We have 128 people signed up. They are able to have all their rent. I just got back from Chicago. Talking to other high rises is the rent strike that that is on now is It's on. It's on the legal or illegal. It's legal. If the people are withholding their rent and they're paying it into an escrow account, other than the court's escrow account out there in danger, really, of being evicted? No, they're not. No, they are not. Because so far, The court we have not been to court, so people are in no danger if they withhold their rent, if they have given the 30 day notification. And we are certainly show them how to do that. I'd like for you to stay at the microphone. We're going to take a break, but there are some other questions that we would like to ask you. So if you would, bear with us, We'll go to a break and come right back. We're back in city land discussing hell in the high rise with Bob Chase of the Welfare Rights Association and Pauline Watkins and Ernestine Weidmann. And Bob Cheeks has a call, by the way. So we're going to put him in touch with the caller. Thank you for calling City Line. Yes, I want to make a statement that I think Bob takes makes excuses for a lack of having pride in ourselves. I agree with one of the ladies sitting there that we can do better about keeping our areas clean. I've lived in a place where I had to move out after living there eight years when people called, Section eight moved in and their statement was, It's not mine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=2856.45,3032.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't care. No. Bob, do you want to respond? Yes, a very quick response. That's you know, that's historical. When people any time you start fighting back, if you're poor, people are fighting back and somebody stands up and say you have a right to fight back, all of a sudden you're making excuses for folk. I don't see people saying the same thing when other folk fight back, that they're making excuses for them. So I just, you know, those type of things we just ignore. We're going to go on with the fight no matter what they say. I resent that. I fight back. Okay. Okay. You know, not one in a million, one of 2000. There are a few people that have been very successful in getting out of the public high rise, and some of them still live there. But you have to be very realistic. Look at all of the thousand that are still there. They are not successful. We are not making any kind of headway at all. And we are positive. And you can't harping on the fact that we are net positive. We are lazy. We are not clean. Quite to the contrary, Miss, I am very clean. I am very positive. That is. But the high rise is not no place for humans to live at all to respond to. Paula. Paula, if you could, you could response, but very briefly, you do not have to get out. I'm just saying do better while you're there. I am doing the best that I can. And you live there. You live there and it lets switch places. I'm this place. I'm black. And I was there. I'm not talking about being black lady. I'm talking about anybody lives in that suburbs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=3033.21,3118.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Black does not have anything to do with that. I'm not going to argue with you. I'm not. Okay. Thank you for your call very, very much. Bob should. We've heard a lot today about problems of the high rise. We've had a few positive things also about the high rises. What I mean, the rent strike is one thing. I mean, what can you realistically accomplish? Are there are some things that can be accomplished? The first thing is that the rent strike is just a means of people fighting back, that they have a right to fight back. And that's the way to do it. One of the ways to do it. The other thing is that one of the other people who spoke talked about the health people. And I have a letter here from a pediatric doctor which indicates that a nine year old is the housing that he lives in, in high rise housing is contributing to his his health problem. So we have the city health department and other people like the lady who just call. She could be very helpful if she got out. She knows what it's about rather than blaming the people who are still there, then let's join together and help. Given that, isn't this really more of a political issue than it is anything else? Everything. Political. Small P. Oh, no, no, no. It's. It's political. Yes, it is. I mean, if you're going to get your way, you're going to have to get people on your side. Sure you do. But here's the thing. It is a political issue. It was a political issue 25, 28 years ago when they developed these houses. It was a political decision to put certain people in. There was a political decision that these folk would be black folk and people on public assistance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=3118.72,3206.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is a political decision. So the solution is also political. What we're trying to do now, because we understand that when we go to court, that that is also a political arena, even though they talk about as the legal arena. But we have a proposal before this city right now. And our proposal is that you move families with children and senior citizens out of high rise housing. You retain the high rise housing for people who do not have children and who do not have physical handicaps. You renovate the housing, you put 10 to $15000 into the 1500 vacant houses out here that the city presently owns. The mothers like the mothers sitting here and the mothers out there and families then would own that house. They would not have to pay the rent. And we also want a law passed that no other people with children shall ever go into high rise housing in Baltimore City. That's. Oh, but they sound obviously workable. But who's listening to you? All right. The possibilities of any of this getting through the possibilities are as good as the sense of the people who are listening and the humanity of the people who are listening. If we have people who are going to be bought off to the point that they'll come on and talk against their own people. If we have elected officials that are not going to be put at political risk and we have some elected officials who are understanding, like Mimi DiPietro, we met with him and he's very, very supportive of this type of some of those who are not supportive. So far, we have only lip service. Well, we had a meeting the other day and some people did not show up. We don't know why.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=3206.5,3300.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Councilman Mitchell did send a representative to the meeting. Agnes Walsh was there. And Mimi, the picture Show, the people who did not show was quite easy. And for me, who was supposed to be there, we don't know why he did not show. John Schaefer and Herman from the First District did not show. Now, we have also talked to I have talked to Councilwoman Barbara mikulski's office here. Three of these buildings are in her district. I've talked to Congressman Harry Mitchell, and we have not gotten any type of help from that quartet. What are the possibilities, then, of getting any changes, legislative changes or any pressure that the pressure, the pressure that has to be brought to bear is from the tenants themselves and from we have other organization that we have been in contact with all peoples Congress, they have spoken today, the NAACP. I've spoken to them. We are going to be meeting with them. The National Organization of Women, the Women League, a League of Women Voters, our Nation of Islam, the Moore Science Temple, all of these groups, we are appealing to all of them in a sense of humanity and justice to get on this issue here. They came up with something different. Let me just go to politics now. With a capital P we talk about in the fourth. You ran for city council in the fifth District. You lost in the primary election. You ran as a write in candidate. The voters, this was one of the major issues that you brought up, the voters that you tried to get the support from basically rejected you. What what do you think now is the possibility of city councilman who have been elected now? That was a good shot there, and I'm not gonna let you get away with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=3303.05,3397.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Take it. Take your shot. Oh, yeah. Fourth in the fourth councilman district we ran on. We got more votes, probably for the first time than anyone who ever ran for the first time in the fourth Councilman district spending less than $10,000, even though Mayor William Donald Schaefer gave Michael Mitchell $8,000. We're very we're very proud of that. My point, though, Bob, is not is not to criticize. My point is not to say that you lost. My point is to say that how can you now expect to bring this issue before the council where the decision has to be made? No, no, no, no, it doesn't. This decision is not. The city council can do some things. They can pass that law that I was talking about. But it's not the city council. The city council is not the culprit in this one. This is Mayor William Donald Schaefer, the man who controls the budget of this city and the board of estimates that funded him. Well, there were those two folks that are running this fund that have $200 million in the trust fund. All right. That's where this issue is right now, and that's where the money is. All the city council can do is give us some support and maybe help articulate this issue with the mayor. Let me make one quick question, because we have we're quickly running out of time, even though we've devoted the entire show to this. And I'm going to ask you this, Bob, and ask you to make your remarks brief. I'm quoting from a letter that you which is a position paper. And it says it is now obvious to us, meaning the Bolt, the Baltimore Welfare rights organization, after a long discussion with city officials that there is a deep disrespect and disregard for the health and safety of low income women and children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=3397.49,3483.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is this the bottom line to what you feel? That's the next to the bottom line. The bottom line is that we're not going to sit back no matter whether it's legal or illegal. We're not going to sit back and let it continue. But you think there is a gross disregard? It is a disrespect. And it's not just in the black in the white community. It's also in the black community where we have middle class black folk that don't care anything about what happens to people who are in high rise housing. Okay. Thank you, Bob. Thank you. Thanks for coming on. Ernestine, let me attempt to give you almost the last word we have. Let me let me apologize, first of all, to Tea Partier and Tim Watts for dropping their parts of the show. We thought that this was so interesting. We did want to continue it. And those of you who were looking for the entertainment page are looking for the newscast. We'll make sure that we put those on at some time in the very near future. Ernestine, where do we go from here? Well, on Bob Cheeks, a couple of months ago when he was running for reelection, I never really had heard of him. But they don't mean that he wasn't there. But I find that in an election year, snakes come from under the ranks and they usually use us as their way of getting the votes. Over to the people now. Bob Cheeks came into our community. He's seen more in one day than I have in 25 years. Well, wait a minute. I think. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I think that you talk. I think I think what we're trying to do is what I was just wrong about the community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016#t=3484.49,3567.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/80181/file/168016/transcript/47246/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let me just I'm talking about Bob coming into my community. Ernestine the a year if he wants to get put into, we are really out here. A lot of people are counting on that to do things other. Coming up. Coming up next week on City Life. For those of you who are listening. Roy Ayres Roy Ayres live in our studio, that famous jazz artist. That's this week's edition of City Line. 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