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The employees own it 100 percent, and anybody with me a month makes $7 an hour. Nobody with me makes less than that. Well, how do you figure the employees own it? Well, they own the stock in the company. See, through the years, when I incorporated it 19 years ago, when it became an employee -owned company, than every year up to 15 percent of their pay. we could give them a stock. So they've accumulated stock through these years. Now we spent a million dollars up cash the last couple of years to anybody that reached 59 and a half, you can get your money and still. 55, you get your money, but you have to quit. So, I mean, we have people that's got $150 ,000 worth of stock with Lucky's. So that means they own that much of Lucky's. Lucky's is worth $5 million today, and it's 100 % employee -owned. That means the money stays in the neighborhood. The employees get the money. They're the ones that get the profit. So it stays in the neighborhood because the people from neighborhood are the ones that work in the stores.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=17.94,93.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You, when you were a kid, you said something about if God's gonna give out money, you should give it to you. Tell me that story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=94.69,101.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I was sitting on the corner of William and Cross one time with a friend of mine and I said, if God was going to give anybody a million dollars, he ought to give it to me because I'd split it up. And then, let's see, 30 years later, 25 years later, is when I incorporated the company to make it a stock employee owned company. I had to put my groceries and fixtures into the company and they gave me a piece of paper saying it was worth $200 ,000. Then the internal revenue made us get the company appraised, so we got it appraised and it said the stock was worth $5 .50 a share. That made it worth almost $1 ,200 ,000. So overnight I looked at this and I said, God. worth a million dollars. You got your million. I got my million. What did you do with it? Well, I told him that I didn't want it. All I wanted was the $200 ,000 and my accountant and the lawyer said that by law the internal revenue says you got to take it all because they want your taxes out of it. Your accountant was going to commit you, wasn't he? Yeah, he said for what I wanted to do at the time that those two and my wife could get together and have me minute. So I said, well, if this is God's way, fine. And then every year for five years, I sold $200 ,000 worth of stock to the corporation. And every, anyhow, in the five years, I gave three quarters of a million away to charity and paid taxes on the rest. So I didn't get a nickel out of it. So between Uncle Sam and charity, they got it all. They got it all. And I didn't have anything to start. I didn't have a nickel. Why not? When I incorporated, I almost had to declare bankruptcy because I owed back taxes every year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=102.66,205.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And let me ask you this, you showed me a work permit that you got when you were 15 years old. You went to work for Jim's Gro -","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=206.65,214.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. Fifteen years old. They let me get out of school on a special permit by law. You had to be sixteen or they put you away in a reform school. Now, wait a minute. You were a candidate for... A reform school. I definitely was. Hooking school. Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=214.97,228.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Back when I was a kid, the kids that went to those kind of classes, what do they call them, educational classes or vocational classes, they were called the dummies. Were you one of those dummy kids?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=232.5,243.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, what happened to me, I graduated from Holy Cross when I was 13 and I went to Southern High and I went there like two months, the first semester, and I got all good grades and I never took a book home or nothing so I never went back, never went back to school. I was 14 then and I wound up living down on a farm when I turned 15, 14 to 15. I was living with my aunt and uncle when I was like 13 and 12. Your parents were separate? They were divorced and I left home like I was 11, 12 years old and ran away from home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=244.48,277.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So in other words, when you were a young kid, you went from mom to dad to aunts to uncles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=277.79,283.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. The strangers on the farm. And I was living down there instead of going to school when my mother came down and found me and she said, you better get back to town or threaten to put me in jail because I was hooking so much school. So I went up and the man said, the judge said, the bands that had good marks at Holy Cross, that they wouldn't put me away. They were talking about St. Mary's Industrial School. So it wound up I was 15 and they allowed me to get a special permit. And the man in the grocery store gave me a job. So as long as I had a job that gave me a special permit to quit school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=282.77,315.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So you've got to permit, a work permit, to work in that grocery store. You wind up owning it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=317.11,321.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I worked there a year, seven 12 -hour days for a year, and the man gave me $30 a week, and he saved 20. Now, this is in 1947. 1945, when the servicemen come out, they give them $20 a week, 52 .20s, they called them. So men were living off $20 a week in those days, so $30 was good money, really. So I worked a year, and he had $1 ,000 of mine, and I had got $10 a week, and I lived off $10. But I wondered if I was going to get the thousand. I didn't know what was going on. So the first day I took off, I wound up going to Pennsylvania with a friend of mine to meet some friends. And I didn't come back for four days. And I came back, I was fired. So the man gave me the thousand dollars. And then I just blew it, you know. But I'll tell you the truth, I hated the grocery business at the time. I really did. I was a young kid and had to act like a grownup. I mean if there was any","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=322.51,377.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean if there was anything in this world you did not want to be, that was a crochet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=377.09,380.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the truth. That was a fact. I would have never dreamt that I would have been in the grocery business today. And 12 years later the man died and he actually is my brother -in -law's father, was my brother -in -law's father. And I had moved at that time over to Southwest Ballmer with my mother and my sister. I went back with her when I was 24 years old to help raise my sister. And my sister got married one day and I left the next. I was 27, moved back to Farmer, Cross Street. And the woman had sold the stock in fixtures and she, I stuck my head in the door and I said, how come you haven't sold this place yet? And she said, it would only bring $3 ,800 to property, so they didn't auction it off. She said, call the lawyer. I called the lawyer and he said, if you can get $500, I can swing it. So I just borrowed two $300 loans to buy a car for $500, so I sold the car to friend of mine. that has a grocery store today, James Craig. And I took the 500 up there and that's how I bought the place. I had no idea in this world how much he charged me or anything else for it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=380.22,447.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So you borrowed the money to buy the car, you sold the car to get the money to buy the property, so you still hadn't cost you a penny.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=447.93,455.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't have a nickel in it, no. You're working on borrowed money? Right, and then everybody loaned me money. $10, $20, $150, $30. My mother's birthday was like a month or so after that, and for my mother's birthday, I gave her the $30 that she lent me to get in the store. That was her birthday present. I gave her her money back.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=455.45,474.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What piece of advice would you give anybody, especially a South Bulmer boy, if he wanted to get in the business for himself, to become any kind of a businessman, what should he do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=477.12,488.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I tell every kid that comes to work for me, if you save 40 dollars a week, I guarantee you in 15 years you'll be worth a third of a million dollars. I tell every kid that. Nobody can save 40 dollars a week today. Nobody. Now I've done it. And I can tell you or anybody else how to do it. A couple of them have listened to me and they're going to be wealthy. That's a fact really. But what you got to do, you got to work hard. Now, I got broken right. I went to work for a Greek man that worked every day of the year. We're open. We're still open. We've never closed the store a day in 36 years, almost. I've been in business 35 years, almost 36. You got to work hard. And our people work very hard now, today. The majority work six days a week. We work weekends, nights, holidays, and whatever. And that's what you got to do, really. You got to try to put an hour on the side So that it will accumulate very simply and easily, actually through real estate. Tell a kid, if you give $5 ,000, buy a house for 50, 60 ,000. If you get two of them in 10 years, hopefully it doubles, you got a quarter million, you know. So you gotta save a dollar. I mean, I got kids that work for me, make six, $700 a week, and they don't have a nickel at the end of the year. They can't wait to get rid of it. So when I talk these kids into saving with me, as soon as they get $2 ,000, they wanna buy a new car. That's what I would tell him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=488.76,574.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So your authority for success is hard work, save some money, invest if you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=574.03,582.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And just leave it alone. Just put so much on the side. Rockefeller told his children, you give 10 % to charity and you save 10 % and do anything you want with the other 80%. And that's what you have to do. You let that 10 % grow and it will grow and you'll be wealthy one day. I told them, if somebody would have told me when I was 17, that in 15 years they would give me a third of a million dollars, I would go to jail for 15 years and stay in jail if I'm going to come out with a third of a million. All I'm asking them to do is save $40 a week. Actually, that's an average of 10 % of their pay, or less than an average of 10%.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=583.43,625.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e $40 a week for 15 years, you wind up with a third of a million dollars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=627.54,631.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e A third of a million, right, and he can't do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=630.72,633.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And that's it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=634.4,635.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you can't lose with that? No, you cannot lose. It's like guaranteed, you know. I tell them it's guaranteed. You were born and raised in South Bowl? Yeah, all my life. I lived on ten streets in South Bowl. You want to know which ones? Weber Street, Jackson Street, Webster Street, Hamburg Street, Hanover Street, Churchill Street, Battery Avenue, Cross Street, William Street, and all points south.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=635.07,663.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's why you know so many people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=664.25,665.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. I went from corner to corner to corner and you had to make friends fast or else when you were a kid. Really trading corners, you know, but I know a lot of people in South Barmer and I got relatives in South Barmer and I love South Barmer. I really do. I'm up there five days a week. I hang up South Barmer in a barbershop with a friend of mine across the street from our store.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=665.45,688.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I understand you're a peanut butter player.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=688.82,692.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=693.21,693.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, you didn't parlay your gambling winnings into all this money that you've made over the years. into this show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=694.67,700.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e that you've made over the years? I'd give about every cent that I've ever won in my life on anything back to somebody. I never keep winning. I don't want to ever become an addicted gambler. So whenever I win, I give it back. I won $3 ,000 in like three months down, Bucky Helms playing pinocchio. And every week I took three guys' pay envelopes. I give it back to them every week. So, but I've been playing pinocchio for 50 -some years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=702.91,727.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Also, you have an article there about you, you're in the mid -Atlantic region, your store, the store that started off in South Baltimore is now the 13th largest","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=728.46,742.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, that's the chain, actually. That's what I mean, blockies. Well, we have 11 stores now. Lucky and they did 22 million five last year. So we are listed as 13th largest out of the 20. The one next to us, below us, did 22 million 200 thousand and they have 42 stores. We did 22 and a half million with 11 stores. So we're averaging 40 thousand a week per store and I think the national average is like 13 thousand a week per store. So we're tripled the national average in volume in our stores. Phenomenal, really is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=744.35,783.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And how much, your stores are known for lunch meat and milk. How much lunch meat does your people cut a year? How f - Any idea?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=785.5,794.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, well, we average at least, on the average of, say, two ton a week per store, 4 ,000 pounds of lunch meat and cheese. Two tons of lunch meat and cheese a week. How many gallons of milk do you sell a week? We average 2 ,000 gallon a week per store. That's 22 ,000 gallon a week minimum we buy. I haul my own milk from the dairy and get a better price. Very cheap. I have three tractor trailers home now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=795.23,825.34"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So, over the course of since you've been in business, or at least since your stores have been, you've sold millions of gallons of milk.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=826.99,835.71"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We saw over a million gowns a year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=835.87,837.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And you've been in business how many years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=838.11,839.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And you've been in business how many years? 35 years. Of course, we have one store, two stores, three stores. But we have sold millions of gallons of milk. We're actually 70 cents a gallon cheaper than the biggest chain stores around us. I mean, we always have been noted for the best. It's a wonder we don't have people standing in line waiting to get in just to get milk, really. because it's so much cheaper than everybody else. A lot of stores around us will drop their price to try to compete with us, but on the whole, they're anywhere from 50 to 75 cents a gallon higher than us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=838.13,877.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So your future, I mean your formula then for running a successful grocery store is buying cheap, I mean like stock, you buy low and you sell high, what was your formula?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=878.64,894.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know a man came up that we buy from country bakers and the man that delivers us these pies has a deli somewhere And I've never met him in my life And I didn't even know who he was when he come up in our office a month or two ago And he said lucky tell me how you're so successful I said you give the customers all you can give them and you give the employees Who are the owners all you can give them and that's what we do We give the customers the best prices we can give them and the employees all the money that we have. So you can't do any more than that and the people really can't ask for any more than that. When they come in our stores they see every one of our employees are working hard and we have people waiting in line sometime, you know, like twenty or thirty deep at a meat case and they don't care because they know they're going to get out in ten minutes. but they don't mind watching you work hard. Now, if you're forward around and on the phone and this and that, people know, sir, nobody sits down. Nobody sits down and luckies. No employee ever sits down when they're working. People know, sir, but nobody sets... their body, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=893.68,958.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You gotta stay on your toes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=959.27,960.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And I mean, they're hardworking people, but they own the company, so that gives them a better incentive. And our wages are good compared to other people in this business. They're a lot better than other people in the business. So we don't have too much of a turnover in health because of this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=961.25,980.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e stores now. What's next?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=982.04,983.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I don't know. Right now, we borrowed $1 ,700 ,000 in December to buy real estate, really. And that's really what we're about, because I can't open stores doing $40 ,000 a week volume. That's about impossible. And right now, at the end of the year, we don't show any profit because we give it all to the employees. So if I was to open five stores and they didn't meet this $40 ,000 a week requirement, it could hurt us. So I opted to just take care of this hundred and thirty some people that we have rather than getting two times as many stores or three times as many. I was going into franchise and I seen a couple of lawyers but every franchisee I know hates the franchisor, actually hates them. And I said I didn't work all my life to have a bunch of people hate me. So that tallied me off. I've had a lot of people call me and ask me if they could franchise a Lucky's and really meant it. because they see it's such a job we're doing, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=985.43,1047.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e all over the country, lockies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1048.04,1049.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No. I said we could go, as far as I'm concerned, I told a banker one time, I said a big outfit could go nationwide doing what we're doing and be a phenomenal success. And he said, well, why not you? And I said, because financially, physically, and mentally, I don't want for nothing on this earth. And this was 20 years ago when I didn't have nothing really. And I mentioned I didn't want all this. What's the difference if you got one or 10 or 100 or else, you know. But I don't want to jeopardize what our people have now to take a chance on maybe messing it up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1049.69,1083.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Alright, so just in simple terms, you are approaching retirement age. Are you going to retire?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1084.52,1092.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm going to die doing what I'm doing there, Dad. I'll be 63 in June. I said, as long as you don't see any cows on them hands, this doesn't work. Talking's not work to me, you know? So. Like I told my people, I said, I've dedicated my life to this company and I'm going to die running it, and you do the best you can, I do the best I can. I don't own any stock in the company, I sold all my stock. I get a weekly wage and my wife gets that, so what do I care, you know what I mean? Now your wife, Judy, she started working with you when? Well, I guess it was a year after I started my first store we wound up getting married. So she's been with me the whole time, really. We will be married 34 years in April. And she's worked very hard in the business, too, really. We both worked hard, and we put quite a few years in. We sweated a lot of blood, you know. It was tough, it really was. We lived over top of grocery stores for 15 years. Six years over top of William Street and eight years or so over top of Mountain Road.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1093.38,1165.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So what is she? Does she still work the stores?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1166.35,1168.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, she's in them all the time. She's down in Florida right now for a week, but she's active in the office every day and she goes store to store.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1168.19,1179.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So as far as anything, any future plans for you, are you just going to keep working?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1180.1,1187.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, yeah, just keep going along like I'm going, and happy at it really. My wife's eight years younger than me, she's 54, so she shouldn't have said that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1187.49,1198.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That won't, that won't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1199.22,1199.52"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What? Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1199.47,1200.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, now your first name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1200.65,1202.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Buck. Bucky. Charles. Charles was my name and my nickname was Buck.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1202.95,1208.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, and it's Lynch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1209.41,1210.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Spell it? L -Y -N -C -H. How did you name the stores Lucky's? Well when we got our second store down Mountain Road, everybody says if you're going to have more than one, you've got to get a name and we're all discussing it and we went from Bucky to Lucky and because I was really lucky I got the first one right with no money and I was lucky I got the second one with no money. It's the same story when I got the second one. The same people that loaned me that little money. When I went to Mountain Road five years later, they loaned me $1 ,000, $1 ,500, and like that. No collateral, no nothing. They took a chance. Tell you the truth, I didn't ask half of them. They just lent me the money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1211.01,1252.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So you started off with nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1253.03,1254.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Nothing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1255.21,1255.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And you've accumulated a great deal through hard so you don't need a whole bunch of money","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025#t=1256.63,1262.37"}]},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267025/transcript/77216/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/077/216/original/trint_WJZ-FLDTP-007-029_ffv1_transcript.vtt?1741803329","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/077/216/original/trint_WJZ-FLDTP-007-029_ffv1_transcript.vtt?1741803329"}]}]},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267026","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 2 of 2 - open-uri20250311-1605153-k0ig9c.mp4"]},"duration":1265.279,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/267/026/small/open-uri20250311-1605153-k0ig9c_1741727550.jpg?1741727551","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267026/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267026/content/2/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-marmia.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/267/026/original/open-uri20250311-1605153-k0ig9c.mp4?1741727549","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":1265.279,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/144490/file/267026","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[]}]}