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We'll try to talk about that. But this is our square off special on crime. And tonight, on Square Off. We ask the question, what do you feel is the main solution to our skyrocketing crime problem? And we asked Judge Solomon lists, There is no main solution. There are so many facets to the problem and there are so many answers to the problem that to even attempt to dispose of it on the basis of one simple answer just doesn't make sense. Baltimore County State's Attorney Sandra O'Connor. I agree there are no simple answers, but I think we have to hold people accountable. And I don't think that our system has across the board been holding people accountable until you start doing that. I think that people are going to be very, very promising. Attorney and former Judge Billy Murphy. We've got to concentrate more on crime prevention without backing off from an attorney. Bob, Share. Juveniles should be tried as adults at age 16 and not 18. The skyrocketing crime problem tonight on Square off. I we're talking about accountability. We're talking about crime in the city of Baltimore. There have been almost 230 murders already. This is almost a record 32 more than last year at this time. A lot of people are concerned. We've talked about it before on the program tonight. We bring in charge lists. We bring in Baltimore County State's attorney Sandra O'Connor and two of our regulars who happen to be lawyers and a former judge. What are we going to do about this problem? Why should it surprise you that there's an increase in the number of murders in the state when practically everybody carries a gun? Every young kid carries a gun, supposedly for protection almost every young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=32.189,137.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Judge, it's interesting you use the word kid, and I agree. And it's for that reason you'll find that most of the crimes, in my opinion, are tried by kids 16 and 17 years of age. And therefore, you ought to be tried as an adult at age 16 in Maryland. You're not an adult until your age 18, and you go through the master system, which is nothing. It's the same. Kids have absolutely no responsibility from the time they start committing crimes at age eight, nine, ten, they are treated like children and they're treated like children all the way up through 15, 16, 17, 18. And at no time did they learn that when you do something wrong, there's punishment and they have to be punished. One of the top of the problems is that we we are so, so much emphasizing the what without understanding the why, that we're short on solutions. And so we punish, punish, punish. And for every young kid we send to jail for life, a new one with the profit motive and with violence and start takes its place. And we don't seem to be able to stop the assembly line production of these kinds of people. And so until we do that, we're going to see, especially with drugs are involved, this increase spiral of violent crime, all drug related, because the family has been destroyed. Education is meaningless because as long as 13, 14 year old kids can make $1,000 a week selling drugs, they will you can put them in jail for life. They'll keep doing it. I didn't often agree with Billy when he was practicing law before me, but I agree with him here today. There isn't any question about it. The drugs is the basic problem in our community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=137.98,230.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There isn't any question either that our community generally has not faced up to it. Every time I read an article in the paper which talks about the recreational features of cocaine and marijuana and all of the other drugs that are being used in our society today, it makes me sick to my stomach. Judge everything you and Billy are saying I agree with with one. I agree. But while you're working on the wise, I'm worried about keeping the kids off the street. Now, listen to this scenario. This is what happens now. A kid, 12 years old, shoplifting goes before a master gets a slap on the hand, goes home to his mother if he even gets that far. If he gets that far. Yeah. Settled out of court. Then age 14, he graduates to robbery, goes before the master gets sent home to his mother. This happens until he's age 18. I want to lower it to 16. This happens till age 18 when he's 18 and he's got ten convictions where he's been sent home to his mother. And then at age 18, he's charged with a crime. He goes into adult court, charged as a first offender because he's now an adult. What happens, gets probation before judgment and still doesn't have a criminal record. What do you think should be done to him? Try him as an adult. Try him as an age 16 at age 16. You see, the part of the problem is that we have extremes in our system that are not tolerable. We give far too many probations, but we also give far too many excessive sentences. And we don't have those middle ground sentences that we can give to young people without destroying them. We don't have any facilities to incarcerate them in in places where they can learn rehab, they can gain skills where they can learn another way of living.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=231.22,321.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so what we do is we take them from one bad set of social problems to another behind bars. And no wonder when they come out, they're worse than when they went in. And this isn't solving the problem, but there are some kids that you can turn around and those we do have some facilities. And I agree, we need better juvenile facilities for those that we can turn around, but those that continually go back out and hurt and rob people, then it's time to say we're not putting up with this anymore. And at that point, then they ought to go into the system as incarceration and not trying to just model. I don't think anybody would disagree with that, sadly. But it's what you do the first time to the offender and the second time, which really makes the difference. The truth of the matter is that if you stop and think for a minute, in 90% of the cases that come into the juvenile court or that come into the where the juveniles are handled, these kids straighten themselves out without the juvenile court. They get scared. They they don't get involved. There is a hard core of individuals that repeats crime over and over. And you're absolutely right. And that no, it's not a big it's a small matter of fact, a small percentage wise, it is very small. And if it's small and there's a reason why it's small and there's a lot of crimes, and that is these people are back at the same people's revolving door. They're back on the street. They're doing it again. That may be true, but the answer to it, pure and simple, is. That if you made a differentiation between those who are occasional offenders and who can be handled and those whom you have no hope of ever straightening out and treated them differently, you might be able to say that the law could allow that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=322.36,418.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You could always reverse way, but you could always try that person who is the first time. And how about the man or woman watching tonight from their homes or from wherever they happen to be watching who are in the majority of this country who say, take these guys who are killing people and kill them, execute them that way. Baltimore County, for instance, I guess, has nine almost none of the 19. Yes. Death row inmates right now who are not being executed yet. And there are an awful lot of people, as I say, the majority, the country says go ahead and carry through the executions. Now, what do you think is the reason that they're not being executed yet is because they haven't won the appeal process. And as you know, the lawyers in this country have managed to add appeal upon appeal upon appeal. And it's averaging not only in Maryland, but in every state, anywhere from 6 to 9 years before a person who has been convicted, horrible, and then goes off court. But don't blame the lawyers for the fact that the system provides The system allows lousy. That's right. These people, they go through the state courts. They go through a three step process on this or a two step process on the state courts. Then they claim their lawyer is incompetent. That's a third proceeding. Then they go into the federal courts, then the day before execution. There are some man by that at that time, the man the killer is ready to go and once to allow the process to take its course and you get a lawyer that comes out against the prisoners, somebody that's on his own, on his own. I always have those. But the problem is that we're ambivalent about the death penalty and we have instituted, as we always have from the beginning of civilization, a series of checks and balances that deliberately muddle the system so that only the most egregious death penalty cases get through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=418.67,516.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"However, it doesn't work that way anymore. Now we're we're really choking on our own administration. We're choking on so much red tape and so many levels. You know, it makes it there's a lot of gamesmanship. What bothers me is that sides and I think particularly on the defense side, you have a situation where a public defender is appointed for someone. They try the case, they lose the case, they take the appeal. As Bobby says, it goes all the way up. The same public defender's office then goes into court and says their public defender was incompetent. But that's gamesmanship. That's really where I want to be. Judge Your Honor's order. Let me say this to you, and I think that this is something that you have to look at very carefully. You know, the people who are talking about the death penalty frequently are the people who, when they get on a jury, which has to decide whether to impose the death penalty or life imprisonment, opt for life in prison. Okay. But that's. Let me finish, please. I can yell as loud as you get the answer to it, pure and simple, is that it is not easy to impose the death penalty, which you did once I had. And I was just going to tell you that in the course of the eight years that I spent in the trial court, I tried hundreds of cases, and a number of those cases were first degree murder cases. There was only one case in which I imposed the death penalty. The facts were so vicious that the man deserved to be killed. He was he was a man who acted like an animal and didn't deserve to be treated any differently. But I don't mind telling you and I say this to you openly, that that was the most difficult decision I ever had to make.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=516.559,618.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that proves my point, though. The fact that it was so hard for you to impose that death penalty when a jury of 12 people unanimously goes through that have to do all 12 go through that mental process and come up with the death penalty. That's only that's only step one. Then you've got to wait nine years for them before the man will be executed. And then what happens? You get a governor who may be opposed to the death penalty, can take the whole nine years and throw it down the drain by being against it. And pardon me. When we come back, we'll take a look at our prisons. Are they doing the job for us? Continues in just a moment. Did. This one. Talking about prisons and whether or not they do the job. You know, the prisons in Maryland are overcrowded. 44% of the men and women in prison do not have jobs. They just sort of sit there and many who get out end up back in. So what's wrong with that system? What's wrong with it is that it would be nice if when they got out, they could do something. What's right with it is the only solution we have, and it keeps them off the street. And the longer we can keep those people off the street, they're going to keep committing crimes, the better off we're going to be. So, yes, we're warehousing. It would be really nice if you wave a wand and make them better people. But I honestly believe there's some people you can't make better. And I think that that's a fact of life that we have to accept. But there are a lot of people we can make worse if we're doing it, because we put them in an environment where there is absolutely no morality, no leadership in a positive direction, no education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=618.44,810.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely. Idle hands being in the devil's work. That's where the young. So there is a tremendous recidivism rate. It is estimated that if we keep people in jail longer than two years or three years, we almost guarantee that, you know, that with the mindset to commit more crimes only they've got they don't differentiate in prisons. I mean, I know you've got your Hagerstown and you've got your penitentiary penitentiaries worse than Hagerstown, but Hagerstown, in any bargain, they need a first offender type of prison. I think what you need more than that and this is something that has never really been done recently, and that is a complete study made to determine what can be done to give every person who's locked up a job to do. The problem is then you have no you have the competition to say, wait a minute, we need jobs for our people and our people haven't done anything wrong. They have a point. But you got to bite that bullet. You see that? That policy hasn't worked for us. That's right. You can't have it both ways. That's right. Number two. Virginia started an interesting thing. They won't parole anybody unless they've learned how to read. There's a civil rights challenge to that, which I think is baseless. But we have to face up to the fact that we have to put positive goals in the minds of prisoners and make them do things that will enable them to be ready to come back to us. If all we're doing is they ought to have and they ought to have a first offender type of prison. Those ought to be the people that need to learn to read and to have a job. You take the other ones, the worthless ones, and put them on a floating ship and get rid of the offender.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=811.48,895.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Second offender. It doesn't make a damn bit of difference. I think the man who comes out of prison who has learned something there that gives him a chance to earn a livelihood for himself and his family has got a fighting chance to stay. That's right. The guy who walks out on the street and the only way he's going to make a living is to steal and rob and cheat is going to be back in. And nothing that you do is going to make and comes a time when the man shouldn't come out of prison. When is that? When is that time? When we have the repeat offender and we now have mandatory sentencing that the person has continually committed and been convicted of felonies. It's time to say it's over. And they go behind bars and there they stay because the community has that right to be safe. And what is that time, Sandy? After in in our state, after four prior felonies, you have to commit four go in and out of the prison. But on the fourth, if you're convicted, you can be sentenced for life without parole. And you've got to do it four times. Is that horrible? And that's how anybody gets that punishment. Hardly anybody gets that. They don't go to jail for time. They get part time guys. They get probation three times. Let's discuss why we're not doing these wonderful things. We don't have the will as a society as we stand today to do anything except vent anger. And as long as our own, our only response is anger. And as long as we fail to think through the problems like we're doing tonight, and as long as our political leaders react more out of fear of the anger than they do with conscience like Tony and I did not that I agreed with him, but he did a thing out of conscience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=895.96,986.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Then we will continue. You're talking about the outgoing governor of New Mexico and pardon all the lying. That's horrible. I mean, the death row. I agree with Tony. You agree? Yes. You think I'm against the death penalty? Now, of course, that's a philosophical difference that he was the governor. Right. We can't resolve this here. His job his job was to decide whether to commute the sentence. He ran on the platform that he was against the death penalty. Sol has a comment. He's smiling. What are you feeling here? I don't agree with the governor. I think it was a last minute thing. It's like appointing people. It's like appointing officeholders the last day before you go out of office. If he was going to take that position, he should have taken it much before the time that he he shouldn't have been allowed to take that position at all. Here is a man who I am against wrong. I am Bob Gibson. I am against the law. Gives him that. And that's the problem. The governor should not have the authority after a person has been convicted by a jury of 12 people. 12 people thought he did it. He then goes through 25 appeal processes. He then claims he has a proceeding claiming his lawyer is incompetent. He then goes from federal court, nine years on death row. We finally get through the Supreme Court ready to go and some governor overrules a jury and 12 judges ahead of him, which is. He has an absolute legal right to do the law. And if well, if it's things that need to be changed. Well, that's what I'm saying. Then the answer to that is that there are a lot of people who think that constitutionally it ought not to be changed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=987.43,1075.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And just because you sit there and recite these nine times over and over again doesn't mean that it's going to be changed. Well, I agree. If the citizens of that state wanted it changed, they have the power. Well, somebody could be interesting to see whether they do. Because I can't imagine the citizens sitting still for something like that. They ought to change it in Maryland. Why? We're talking about lawbreaking and have just a couple of minutes left. What do you think about what's going on over in Washington with the Iranian arms deal? The ABC News poll says that most Americans feel President Reagan did, in fact know about it and that almost half feel that if he in fact did. And that does come out after these investigations that he should resign. What do you think? Speaking of crime, I think it's obvious that there's a lot of it going on in the White House right now. And the interesting new development is why the Swiss government is refusing where there is a clear right for us to have the records, to give us the records which show criminal conduct in these bank transfers. And I think what you will find is that there is an agreement, a tacit agreement between the Reagan administration and the Swiss government to cover this up, that it's all speculation. Well, why else would they do it? It's obvious that we have the right to get these documents. Why in the world are you speculating on something that we don't know anything about? So the Access Canada rhetoric. I'm speculating because if we fall back in that other position we used to have about having a faith in a president, you don't do that with your own cases and you don't do that with your own clients.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=1075.79,1157.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You wait to see what the world is developed. This is now you're doing it strictly for political reasons. If I were in court and if you were in court and we were confronted with having to rule on whether it was guilt or innocence, you'd be absolutely right. But we are now in a political theater, and we have the duty as Americans to be talking about this. Just not enough yet. But we have to be skeptical about what is going on. Yeah, but you don't have the duty to let ABC poll decide what should have. Nobody's doing. Nobody's talking to you. I started this out by saying ABC. I didn't even know about this sampling of how Americans feel about that. My answer to that is that at this point in the proceedings, nobody really knows what the hell happened. And until all the facts are in, I agree with SAC. When we've got the facts, if the president is, in fact covering up, if he is lying to the American public, then it may very well be that this is the one that's got a break. I want to say after the show. Let me let me get my $0.02 in, unfortunately. And I mean, unfortunately, I think the president knew about it. And I say that because I like the president and I supported the president. However, I am more convinced than ever that he knew what was going on. When I heard on Thursday that Israel, former Israeli Prime Minister Peres, stated that he was asked by the administration or by somebody at the White House to deliver the arms to the Contras. Now, who calls the prime minister of Israel? It isn't Colonel North. It's got to be a top American. It isn't Poindexter either.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=1158.17,1250.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's got to be a top American. That came out on Thursday. Okay. So there's something going on also, Colonel North. Isn't that. You know, that is a fact. You know that. You judges have that same view to the obvious crimes that you have to deal with every day would prosecute them. So we don't indict them until we have the facts, the evidence. Not only that, but you you didn't convict them until you had the fact. And when they came before me on appeal, we didn't agree to hold them responsible or to reverse until we had more judges. Also, what about the courts? Rush just we're not in a courtroom here. You guys are out of order. I find you can now relax. This is not a courtroom. We don't have to sit here and prove anybody beyond a reasonable doubt. Guilty. We can have an opinion. My opinion is, from what I'm hearing, and every day somebody has got something new to say. And where are the sources coming from? They're coming from the White House. This White House is leaking like crazy. That's what happened. The Watergate thing. I agree with Bob. They're leaking. This is probably the first time in history ten years than the last. We are now. We are now wearing our citizen hats. We're not yet wearing our judge or jury hats. And as far as it looks now, and this is subject to evidence to be produced in court. I smell some rats. I smell a lot of them. I smell of the first rat I smell was when the national security adviser, McFarlane, the former national security adviser, was running around here, Iran with us. I haven't had to do this Mickey Mouse rat hole it. Some of the others have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369#t=1251.02,1340.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/136026/file/252369/transcript/70791/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Good. On that note, we will be back in just a moment. Well, it is very good. They are responding to our show last week about the Reagan administration's actions regarding the public reactions to Iran and the arms issue. Fred Deery of Bel Air writes Iran Is Watergate revisited? It's hard to conceive an American president as dishonest, arrogant and manipulative as Mr. Reagan. His staff, many who could be similarly characterized, have not betrayed him. As Moynihan suggests, they have simply carried out his wishes. And Mary McCardle of Charleston, Maryland, writes regarding the same topic by saying Peter Waldron should read the book, Ronald Reagan's Reign of Error from the National Archives. So Peter stays in Washington. Perhaps when the president is sent back to California, he'll be able to follow and pick up after the horses as he rides the lonesome trail. Write to us at this address square off WJC TV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. Two, one, two, one, one. And I have great news. Solace and Sandy O'Connor have agreed to come back as regular squirrel panelists. And we want you to stay to their solace. And there are Sandi O'Connor and we are just tickled to death about this. Stay tuned. Now we're going to get up after the lotto and be part of the Pride of Baltimore special telethon coming up tonight here on Channel 13. We've got some big surprises. I think you'll enjoy it. 8 to 10 right after the lotto. And join us next Saturday night at 730 when once again will square off. 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