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We begin by talking about the highly controversial movie. You've read about it. You've seen clips on television. It's called The Last Temptation of Christ, where religious leaders have spoken out against the movie because Christ is shown as a far from willing martyr, a reluctant messiah who also has sex with Mary Magdalene. Tonight on Square Off, we ask those of you at home, those of you on the panel, does The Last Temptation of Christ go too far?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=72.38,97.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Phyllis Brodtmann Well, I believe that if you were secure in your religious beliefs, you'll just view the film as a part of entertainment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=98.42,104.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeline Murphy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=104.99,105.41"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I haven't seen the film, but I think that this is for pointy head intellectuals.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=105.83,109.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e The Reverend Saint George Cross.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=109.94,111.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's morally offensive and theologically flawed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=111.95,115.46"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=115.97,116.42"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it's marvelous. Richard We're talking about a movie where David Bowie is Pontius Pilot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=117.05,120.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll talk about The Last Temptation of Christ and other subjects in the news tonight as we square off. Why? Good evening, everybody, or good morning. If you're watching on Sunday morning, you know the show is repeated. We begin before we talk about the movie, we have a couple of congratulations that are much this evening. First of all, to Phyllis Brotman and her wonderful husband, Don, tonight celebrating their 35th wedding anniversary. I want to mention that I appreciate Don is a tolerant young man and we're very proud of him. And to Saint George and Dolores Cross celebrating their 22nd wedding anniversary today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=121.46,162.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e 20, 22 years ago, we got married at Salem Church in New York and spent our honeymoon in the St Georges Hotel in Brooklyn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=163.39,170.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And who would have thought 22 years ago that we'd be talking in 1988 about this kind of a film that obviously you don't support?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=171.49,178.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't support it. I won't pay to go and see it. But I think the people who did it have a right to do it. But I also support those people who want to get out there and picket them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=180.13,190.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But St George, don't you really have to see the film in order to understand whether or not you really like it and can be tolerant of it? You know, we can't if we if we hide our heads in the sand, if we don't take a look at what's before us, then we're not really doing much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=190.93,207.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Then you go and see Deep Throat. Well, you know, not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=207.34,210.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Asking me your question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=211.52,212.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm asking you a question. I thought I thought Deep Throat was offensive. I thought it was X-rated, it was nasty. And so I didn't waste my time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=212.56,220.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But I happened to I've seen part of Deep Throat because I agree, it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=220.94,224.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Doesn't matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=225.28,225.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Whether you swallow the whole thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=225.88,227.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Or St George.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=227.59,228.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Place in the storyline.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=228.46,229.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I understand. God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=230.05,230.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e How do you know anything about it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=231.1,232.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e If they call.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=232.81,233.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It saying I'm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=233.8,234.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=234.88,235.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=236.14,236.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't think I should waste my money. Are going to see what I consider morally offensive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=237.52,245.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Are free filming of of the show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=246.4,248.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't want to see them that way. I believe that Jesus Christ is Lord. He is the the head of the church. I, I worship him as a person. And this picture, I'm sure, cannot be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=249.37,264.94"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Close to what the producer is a deeply religious man and all of his religious beliefs are in that film.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=265.18,271.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's what's hurting this world and religion.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=272.11,273.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To the other side.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=274.21,274.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeleine, I think that this this discussion about Christ and who was Jesus has been a discussion in seminaries for years and years and years. As I said, it's not about point. He had intellectuals and people are wondering who Jesus is in the seminaries. The man who was against the film is going to see it just so he will be able to discuss it intelligently. And I think that's what everybody ought to do. Furthermore, I think that if you, as Phil has said, if you have a deep faith and a belief, I don't think it's going to hurt people to open their minds. I think you need liberal discussion about beliefs, about faith and about everything else, because that's what keeps us standing up. Otherwise you're like. Otherwise you're like the the. What's that? The Inquisition. Oh, when Galileo said the world was round and the pre bishops had ruled that the world was flat, you went out too far, you fell off the edge. And as a result, he was under house arrest and all the rest of it. 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It wasn't meant to be comedy. Somebody is going to make a lot of money off of a movie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=391.48,396.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It wasn't meant to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=397.3,398.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Comedy, historically centered Bible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=398.53,400.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=401.35,401.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Have done badly at the box office. Well, they don't do. But there was one or two notable figures I put upon. You see, we talk about anti-Semitism. The way that I see going around in the media and among America is anti Christian, anti Christian. And then they use this word fundamentalists. I don't care if people want to call me, I don't consider myself a fundamentalist. But if you want to call me a fundamentalist, yes, but I do not make jokes about Jesus Christ and the majority of people. He would not make jokes about if they were to make if they were to make if they were to make a movie like this, making fun of Martin Luther King, the people, the Urban League and I would be out there picketing it. But what I'm saying now, people are telling Christians, you can't say something about it. There's nothing wrong. Yes. Too seriously. You're saying that you never tell jokes about Jesus? No, I don't. If there is a God of the universe, don't you think he has a sense of humor? No, I do. We always have to go around in sackcloth and ashes and beat ourselves over the head. You know, I've had to have a sense that a religious look on their own. 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My point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=474.14,476.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Is. The point is, is that we talk about freedoms in this country. There is a freedom to be able to make a movie, and it doesn't have to be called sacrilege. It's opening the minds, I believe, one way and I certainly understand what Catholicism is all about, but I do not view the movie as being something that is sacrilege. Madeline story is worthless.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=476.6,500.09"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I agree with that. But I'm saying at the same time, don't criticize the people who feel they want to get out there and take of it. Well, you're saying that they should have the right to to have freedom of expression. And the people, whether you call them fundamentalists, are Christians or or whoever you want to call them. You're saying they don't have the right to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=501.11,521.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Out and say, no, no, no, no. You said you might have the counterpoint.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=521.69,525.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The counterpoint. Saint George is is there going to defeat their own purpose? They want people to stay away from the movie. Every time I pick up a newspaper, there's a report that the pickets are going to do this and the pickets are going to do that. The curiosity seekers are going to turn out and turn this into a raging financial success.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=526.07,541.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e See, this is the first public relations aspect of it that the movie could pass. But I'm going to tell you something. You were talking about how most of the biblical movies have been a dud box office, and that's because they've all been so very serene and sweet and and nobody's wrong. And everybody looks like he's just had his beard shaved and clipped at a certain way. And everything is supposed to be exactly right. I think this film will make people question their faith. And I think this is what is frightening some of these evangelicals because they're afraid that if people begin to question their faith, they will stay away from church. 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These fundamentalists use you hear them talking that way about whether people will finally question their faith, isn't it? A lot of people don't pay any attention to a lot of people who don't have faith will question themselves and say, is this or is this not what I want to do?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=587.66,605.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Our faith is questioned every day. My faith is strong enough that I don't think it would ever, ever be a problem there. But there are people who are weak in faith. This is meant to destroy them. 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I don't believe it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=620.54,621.56"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You don't?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=622.97,623.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. I have enough about those folks in Georgia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=734.24,737.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Surprised this year when the students go back to the city schools here in Baltimore. They're dealing with the problem of drugs in the schools by the by having a program, a revised drug education curriculum that will focus not only on drug prevention and resisting peer pressure, but on the economics of drugs, saying just say no to drugs isn't enough, but encouraging them to say no to drug money. Is this a realistic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=737.69,760.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Approach, a really tough way to tell the kids that money is not the most important thing when they see what money can buy? And the way that program is distributed within the schools is going to make or break it. It's a really tough issue because when you see all the young kids, we've done some some research on it, too. And when you see these young kids five, six, eight years old with lots of money in their pockets, able to buy the things that they couldn't have ordinarily, that's really a hard thing to do to dissuade them from doing what you put in place of it. Madeleine, I wish I had the answer right. But the the problem with drugs, however, is so endemic and so widespread among all races, all groups of people and these public schools that we should begin to talk about how do we make their lives more livable and more fruitful and more interesting. Now, I have a theory. I think that you would have less premarital sex, you would have less drugs, you would have less other things if you made a greater emphasis on the creativity of the human spirit, the creativity of the human being, that you can get as big a charge off of music, off of art, off of a number of other things that are more fulfilling than you can off of drugs and sex.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=761.32,845.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Madeleine I think we also have to reevaluate where education is going, and I'll tell you why. I believe from my conversations with young people that schools in the poorest neighborhoods have many teachers in them who have lower expectations for the children who live in those neighborhoods. They don't talk to those children about the sky being the limit or going down to the depths of the ocean. They just get by. And I think you have to light that feeling of hope and replace the hopelessness. Otherwise, the role model is the guy in the fancy car with lots of money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=846.28,879.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But let's not say it's every inner city school because I worked in some inner city schools where there is this ability to bring up the expectations of young people and they are doing a marvelous job. Madeleine. Are you aware of the Greater Baltimore Committee and the mayor's group of raising $25 million to send young people to college if, in fact they stay in school through the high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=879.7,903.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Plus the high tech fund that's being.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=904.12,906.01"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Called? I think that's a wonderful way to take that group of children of young people and encourage them toward higher education and to give them a lot of hope. They don't have hope of going going to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=906.16,917.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The recent Governors National Governors Association meeting. There was a program in Los Angeles where they put policemen into the schools to talk about drugs. I think you need a role model, somebody who you are sure is not on drugs and in some way is able. Well, let's say is able to relate that to the children. That is easy to say. But you also have to hold out a financial alternative to these children if they see that they can make several hundred dollars tax free a week, have their own well, their own motor scooter, the fanciest clothes, gold jewelry in some of the city schools, not just Baltimore, but cities around the United States. Your success is measured by the number of gold chains you have around your neck. We have to deal with that and we're not dealing with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=917.41,964.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. Where do you put in the place of the money? What do you put in the way? We do this program in the city schools, in any city but in our Baltimore city schools is going to demand a lot of attention and a lot of people working hard on it. It's just hard to tell young people that money doesn't matter.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=965.03,982.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't want to give it over mainly to the schools because I think that we put too much on our teachers. Our rabbis, our ministers have to start speaking of the self-esteem of people. Those of us who are in positions of work as managers have to start speaking to the self-esteem of the people who work for us because they're the reason that somebody is on drugs, The reason that somebody is on alcohol or has to smoke four or five packs of cigarets a week is because they feel low about themselves. However, why haven't they been doing that? St George You talk about the members of the clergy having great power in the Baltimore community and they do. There are some of them who can influence elections, but they will not influence their people to get off drugs and to stay away from substance abuse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=982.75,1028.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't think it's that simple. However, a lot of the people who are in the. Involved in this are unchurched. Number one. The other thing is they go home to family in some instances where dope is acceptable, where you talk about people who smoked cigarets. Well, there are a lot of people kill you about smoking cigarets. But go home and smoke a joint and you see this from the very wealthy on down to the lower classes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1029.01,1057.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And I think it's even more basic than that when we have. We have these teenage mothers in Baltimore in record numbers having babies. You take a 15 or 16 year old child with a child and then we say, well, we're going to teach you to say no to drugs. We're going to teach you to live on a higher moral plane with greater ethics. That's nonsense that young girls not even relating to that kind of conversation. She's relating to survival. And we need to think about how she's going to survive and how she's going to get a job and care for herself and her child. Where where are we doing that? I'm glad that you said that, because what has just been brought to my attention and I didn't know it as much, was that the majority of the people on drugs who are using drugs are women. We see the picture of the guy who's a junkie. But the people who are using drugs the most and are abusing it are women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1058.37,1113.06"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I do have to work percentage, but you have to take into consideration that these young women are in great despair and have no hope. And this is the way that they can get around their desperation and their frustration. It's not right and somebody has to show them another way. But you tell me what that other way is going to be until you find something else.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1113.63,1132.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think a lot of people who live in comfortable homes need to think about a teenage girl living in a hovel with a variety of boyfriends while she tries to raise a young baby with no job and no real prospects for ever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1133.01,1146.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, but then you've got to think about the young girl who's living in the home where her mother and father are well off, and who also can get the drugs and can use them and pass them along and can sell them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1146.66,1159.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Not only can they go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1159.47,1160.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Before it's endemic in society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1161.38,1163.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Not only can they go get them. The biggest drug pushers are the people who have bars in their basements where their kids can go down and drink while they watch their VCR.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1163.91,1173.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. We're going to change move from a very serious subject to perhaps a lighter note, because we try to do that every week now, try to end on something a little a little nicer. Okay. I'm not sure that everyone knows how good we've been. You've been very good. I have not used the gavel. 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Your grandmother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1203.72,1204.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Isn't a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1204.62,1204.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Playboy. Clubs have closed for good. I know all of this broke Alan's heart because he was a frequent visitor. 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A reaction from Alan Christian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1213.46,1220.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The Lounge Lizards will have to find a new place, Richard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1221.18,1223.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But you know something? I think that there is a correlation between the closing of the Playboy clubs and the opening of night baseball in Chicago. Don't you think there's something about that? It's taking its place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1224.39,1235.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't know about the loss of the bunny. Dip is a cultural atrocity. Not now. Ever again. 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That was so tough I could have used it as an insult.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1252.47,1259.85"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So that's why they closed. Because nobody here wants their vote. I think you went one time. The value of the bunny of the Playboy clubs was the thing that kept it going. But nowadays, the way the society is going is immoral and immoral as it can get in a number of ways. I think that it has seen its day. 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Time has come and gone. Playboy magazine, I think, will survive. I think there are some of the best interviews in the. World and Playboy magazine. And I admit it's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1324.12,1335.95"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Getting to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1336.16,1336.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Him. And remember, one more thing for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1336.77,1338.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Some people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1338.62,1338.98"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e One more point. Hugh Hefner's getting married.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1339.38,1341.65"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What do you think about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1342.25,1342.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, that makes a big difference.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1343.09,1344.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e How old is his bride?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1344.8,1345.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e About 24, I think. 28. Remember, California is a joint property state. Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1346.3,1351.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think the other thing is, is that Jessica Hahn made a big splash on this month's cover.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1352.18,1357.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We'll be back in just a moment with the Lounge Lizards, Mr. Christian and all the others. Don't go away. Okay, we've got a bunch of letters and we appreciate all the mail and support you're giving us. Carol Parker of Baltimore responds to the debate a few weeks ago about redecorating the governor's mansion. Agreeing with Madeline Murphy by writing The state House should preserve the history of Maryland. It belongs to the state, not to anyone, governor or his wife or a living friend. If they want to turn their own living quarters into Howard Johnson's well and good writing about our show On the problems in the prisons. Tiaras of Baltimore right square off. What we need to do is start performing exorcisms on these criminals and incorporate godly rituals to correct the prison crisis. They are criminals because they are controlled by Satan. Responding to the discussion and debate about AIDS a couple of weeks ago. Lewis Hall of Baltimore writes. By making AIDS a moral matter, a solution in treatment will be impeded. This is the kind of thinking that stigmatizes the afflicted, along with the affliction. It's like the Dark Ages. And Donna Saper of Baltimore responds to the show two weeks ago about their chests on the street in Annapolis. She writes, We were born bare. Why are you so narrow minded Men can go there, but women can't. Bull. Adam and Eve were nude. Oh, yes. I also like to thank 13 year old Shelley Sprigs of Arnold, Maryland, Charlotte Nicole of Crest, Baytown, Maryland, which is five miles south of Cumberland, Frank Brown of Baltimore and all the rest. Here's our address. Please write to us at square off WG TV. Television Hill. Baltimore, Maryland. Two. One, two, one, one. Congratulations on your anniversary, fellows, and thank George.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1358.09,1548.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Happy anniversary to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705#t=1548.48,1549.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/118991/file/223705/transcript/62938/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This show will be repeated tomorrow morning at 730 and next Saturday night at 730, when, once again, ladies and gentlemen, we square off. All right. Here's what we're planning to discuss in just a moment. On square off the controversy surrounding The Last Temptation of Christ saying no to drug money and the end of the Playboy clubs with the Reverend Saint George Cross. Phyllis Brotman, Madeline Murphy and Alan Christian. We're all following these messages here on WJC Channel 13. Christ's Last Temptation. Join the Reverend St George Cross, Dennis Rodman, Madeline Murphy and Alan Christian on Square off Saturday night at 730 on Channel 13. Say no to drug money. 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