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We're live on City Line. Hi, I'm Jackie Hall. And I'm Betty Bentley. In the early 1960s, there were many violent, blatant discrimination among blacks. Blacks were forced to. They were discouraged, rather, from entering many field of occupations. On today's City Line, we'll meet individuals who were among the first to cross the color lines, entering careers that not only challenged the mentally and physically, but would ultimately challenge their tolerance of injustice. It's hard to make sun in baltimore city. I'm t manteo today on news corp. We find out what is urban league sunday herald anthony here. You know, in the late 1970s, grace Jones's avant garde style propelled her ahead of her time. On today's entertainment page, she continues to blaze ahead. They do. Joining us before black Pioneers, which is noteworthy success as they overcame the odds that were stacked against them crossing the color line Up next, live on City Line. Well, good afternoon and welcome to City Line. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. How are you doing? I'm doing quite well. Better now? Yes, a little bit. This is our second week of In our Black History celebration and tributes. Yeah, it was a very special week. We had some very special people here today that we're going to introduce you to. Indeed. Because one of the things that we can always do is not only congratulate those who have forged ahead of us, but we can also pay tribute to them and learn something for ourselves as well. So we're going to do that today with four pioneers who were with us on City Line. Our first guest is Herminia Jordan. Jacki, thank you. You are a pioneer in the field of education. Samuel Saxton. It's next to Miss Jordan, a former Marine and a pioneer in that area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=114.55,249.88"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Joseph Durham, who is one of the first blacks on the Orioles baseball team. Welcome to City Life and Charles Thomas. Welcome to city life. Okay. I'd like to ask you. We showed some footage just at the beginning of the show, which was a little controversial, to say the least. Even at that time, it was than any of those kinds of scenes of blatant racism. Did you have to experience any of that as you blazed ahead? Well, I can think of one instance here in Baltimore, and that's what we're talking about now concerning a school that I was asked to go to. Preceding me was a white fellow. I should say I was asked to go there in my field, which is physical education. When I went with my supervisor, I was introduced to the principal talk back and forth about things that were to happen. She brought up the fact that the person who preceded me came to school at 730 or quarter of eight, and I said nothing. I simply looked around her to my supervisor, who then explained to her that that was Mr. So-and-so, and I had a program to get over and that my hours fell within the hours that had been arranged by the Department of Education. I was then told when to come to the faculty meeting, the first meeting before the kids came. I walked in the room and conversation stopped. I spoke with my parents, had told me, This is what you did. I sat down during the faculty meeting and I was asked by the principal to explain the program, which I did. At that time, teachers were to take their children to the physical education room for their activity. Teacher came in with a newspaper.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=250.42,377.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I objected. She came in a little later and took the stool off the piano. I objected to that. After that particular class, she had me in supposedly to reprimand me. And she ended by saying that this particular teacher was rated excellent. And I asked her what that had to do with the particular moment because I had been rated superior. Well, we're going to learn more about. That's right. L'expérience turned to Mr. Saxton. What about if you could give us a brief feeling? What was it like for you as as a first among the company of Marines, Black Marines? I'd have to say that there are others. Even some of those in the audience can speak to that even more glowing than I because they preceded me. But I can tell you this, that we collectively had a very high ranking Marine officer came back from having fought on Guadalcanal, and then he came to my foot point and he saw my colleagues and us sitting out there and he said this very open. When I came back and I saw [Unrecognized], women and dogs in my uniform, I knew damn well there was a wall. Oh, my. We were introduced to the Marine Corps by people who said to us that, Why didn't you join the Army? Someone who really wants you. And we were treated in ways that you would not even treat your worst enemy. Even your training was separate, wasn't it? It was separate, capable, naturally equal, because it was designed. As a matter of fact, a drill instructor told us that. Why don't you go all Hey, if you were here tomorrow morning when we get back, you're going to wish that you were dead. Mr. DAUM Well, before arriving here in Baltimore, I played down on the minors, and there's a lot of segregation in those days, and I was the only one on the black on the team.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=377.67,510.7"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that mean it meant equal separate quarters on the road. You had separate places to eat. My teammates, most of them, I would say 90% treated me equal. If one or two that was from the Deep South that they just didn't believe that a black could be equal with them. I was several. I mean, playing before a large audience. I heard racial remarks. But those things you have to throw out and continue play that it will give you a desire to play harder, to try to be better than the next person on the team. If you play as well, that means that you better. So those are the things that I saw I ran into when I was coming up through the Oriole organization. Okay. We'll learn more about that in a minute. Mr. Thomas Well, you tell us about your experiences as a firefighter. Well, as a firefighter, let me first point out that I was not the first. My class, I think, was about the third class, but the first black sent the bombs to the fire service in October of 1953. I came a few months later, February 8th, 1954. As a matter of fact, I did my anniversary. I have 33 years in today, and as the others have expressed here, it was hell. It was something I wouldn't want to undergo again. And as a matter of fact, let's hope none of the have this to do ever again. But it was a sad occasion for us. And that fire service, they did everything to discourage you. Take my word for it. I'm well aware of it. Everything to discourage you. But we came through because we had done my guys, I think in at first grade we had about nine blacks and they were the first in the class of about 47.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=511.6,615.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. Well, we thank each of you for coming here today and sharing your stories because we've got an awful lot to learn from you today. And we congratulate each of you for having stood through it and come through it so well. We're going to take a break and come back. And if you have questions that you'd like to ask of our guests, call us at 41, 13, 13, 41, 13, 13. We'll be back in just a moment. Welcome back to City Line. We're talking with four pioneers who crossed barriers that had stood before them became among the first blacks to serve either their country, to serve a sport, to serve in a profession. And I want to get right back to Mr. Thomas. The firefighters were where the units segregated or where you placed in numbers spread around the city when you first joined forces. That's the one good thing they didn't do. They spread throughout the entire department. So they did not places in all black men, so to speak. You could very well have done that because we were probationary and we had to get, you know, adjusted in that period about a year, you know. Can we can we assume that the department itself was rather somehow forced to accept blacks and because of that, was there any type of support system developed or was it necessary for the firefighters themselves to develop their own words as you asked it? That's exactly what we had to do. And matter of fact, we got no support. I'm holding papers here now that attested that the union were opposed to us motions the welcoming and helped you. But the unions local 734 and the 964 that the officers union the particular the 734 opposed us but they took a vote and they were strictly anti us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=616.87,831.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But what we did then as the other thought and said not that will support that we felt the organization as a key to problem solving. So they wouldn't let us in. So we formed their own Mr. Durham you know, as, as professional athlete, uh, I'm, I would assume that once you got on the field, aside from the audience, as far as the team was concerned, was there some type of oneness in terms of performing whatever the task was for the day, or was there activity on the field problems that directly related to your color? Not among teammates, spectators. Sure, I can recall some incidents, uh, Shreveport, Louisiana, uh, playing left field and the white bleacher seats were. There is a steady conversation all night long directed to me, uh, talking about my parents and whom they didn't know. Uh, some types of fruit. I think watermelon was one of them. Like we are supposed to be related to watermelon or craft game or something of that sort. But I never once said anything to them. And I had some of my better evenings in Shreveport, Louisiana. So I just let the bet speak for myself. It was. Now, let me ask you, now, each of you has painted a story of what appears to be some pain and you would treat it like dogs, something you wouldn't want to go through again. How did you stand and how did you survive it? How did you last? How did I last? I made up my mind that there was no one more qualified with a better background than I had. And I kept that in mind. And one thing you must be in order to overcome this is being prepared. And that's what I had done.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=831.9,947.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mr. Sexton, I think we are as a group, were afraid to quit, even though the white girl instructors and others were rough. We met some guys there that were brothers were twice as rough. There were many a guy that fell off lock box, hurt his leg, you know, lack of oxygen so big. The underlying principle behind all of this was this that they selected. Least they tried to pick the very finest guys that they could put into the uniform. And then they tried to make us quit. And as soon it became clear that that's what they were really trying to do, I think we dug in and showed them that black men know how to stand tall. Why would they why would they bring you into the unit and then try to make you quit? I mean, what would have been that kind of rationale? Well, mentality racism never really has much of a rationale. However, we can say that two executive orders, one from Franklin Delano Roosevelt, I think it was 88 or two who said that blacks could come in the Marine Corps and then was 88, not 99, 88. I think that close that Truman said it would now be integrated. What really made the people bring us in was necessity. And we're running out of manpower to fight World War Two. And you'll find that the history of this country, every time there is a war and blacks go in when it really gets rough, then there is no segregation. And blacks have proven themselves in war as well. We've. Okay. We've been asking our callers at home to call in and talk with each of you. And we have someone waiting right now. Let's go to that. Hi. CALLER you're on the air live.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=948.15,1056.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right. First of all, I like to take my hat off to your guest. Better idea. My question is today, this is 1987 and I'm a member of corporate America as a young black model is still there because now the obstacles are not as overt as they were back then, if more covered. So any of the panelists. My question is, how would. What would you say to a young black in corporate America? How would he handle covered obstacles? This is the overt obstacles that you were faced with back then. Any of our guests want to answer? Yes. As soon as you identify it, go to work on it. What are you finding? What do you mean? Well, when you find racism in its ugly head, you go right to work on it. Like up in the house beach up in New York. You go to work on. It's still around. It's going to be with us long after we are long gone. But it's the most necessary that we go to work on it. Someone asked me, My point is, is that the white establishment has wised up a and it's more covert now and it's a very delicate situation. If you say something and they may point you out and say, hey, you're not a team player, follow me. You're not a team player. The tag will go no further in corporate America. What do you say to a person who's really asking, What do you do about it? I would venture in answer The answer that I think that I would give is that one has to know where he has been and have some prospect of what the future is about. And keep your eye on the ball. Another way of saying that same thing is to completely identify the characters that you are working with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=1057.14,1165.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That isn't something new for black folks. Remember, we understood the Master long before the master understood us. If we spend so much time trying to wonder how we are going up the ladder without studying the people, then you're always going to have that problem. There's no one answer of what he's saying, but there are individual answers. Study who is playing the game. He studied pitchers and hit the ball. I would tell him to study the pitcher and raise his bat. Hit ball. All right, good. Okay. Anyone else wants to add to that? Well, that's been asking me ask you again, because you were a known minority coming into a situation that that blacks were quite overtly prevented from participating in. Did you find that that indeed your your fellow blacks had anything against you because you succeeded in breaking that barrier that when you went from one town to another and you were playing for a major league team, There were, I imagine, other players who had attempted but couldn't get get into the major leagues. Was that ever problem? No. I think the black that I knew, the people that I ran into that were all for me 100%. They even gave me encouragement. My everything was down when I thought no one loved me. I had black brothers to come to my sons to keep going, rather keep going. So you were a role model of sorts and inspiration? Yes, I was. When you got to go back to 1947 when Jackie Robinson broke the map. Oh, Campanella, Joe Black. These were all some of the guys that were before me. But when I came in, I was stuck with a team right here in the Baltimore organization with Saint Louis Browns at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=1166.7,1279.68"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I was the only black on the team and I had to deal with it. Our separate quarters, a separate restaurant, separate everything. I only saw the saw my teammates at the ballpark. I didn't see them. And in the afternoon when I went to a movie or went out to eat, I lived in tourism and we didn't have the fine hotels we have today. I couldn't stay downtown Houston, Texas. I couldn't stay downtown Dallas, or I still went across the railroad track, you might say. Well, we're going to continue our discussion and find out a little bit more about how much we really have overcome and that so many years. We're going to take a break right now. Stay with us. We'll be right back. I'm two months here today on News Corp. We find out what Urban League Sunday means to Baltimore. Still ahead on today's entertainment page, Grace Jones's latest. I'm not perfect, but I'm perfect for you. You won't want to miss it. Now, here's this week's community calendar. Hello. My name is Princess Center. Miss Morgan, State University Student Activities invites you to be a part of a cultural look at fashion of Friday evening, February 20th, beginning at 7 p.m.. And then they held us in a ballroom of Morgan State University. Come and see many exciting fashions featured by local boutiques and designers. Proceeds will benefit the Miss Morgan Scholarship Fund. For tickets and further information, call four, 4434, seven. Oh. Hello, my name is Anita Brown. The national sorority of Delta Kappa Incorporated Gamma chapter will present our Black History celebration next Sunday, February the 15th, beginning at 4 p.m. at Pimlico Middle School, 3500 West Northern Parkway. Reverend Jimmy C Baldwin Soloist. Pamela Uribe, Robert Evans Ensemble, The Arena Players, Youth Theater and many more exciting groups and organizations will help celebrate the theme Black Heritage Yesterday, Today and tomorrow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=1280.34,1535.21"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is free and open to the public. For more information, call 4662641. Hello, my name is Rosalind Watkins. The Mary Rodman Recreation Center Auxiliary invites you to attend the Miss Sweetheart pageant on Wednesday, February 11th, beginning at 6:30 p.m.. 16 lovely young ladies, ages nine through 12, will present their talents a fashion segment and share their public speaking abilities. There will also be live entertainment by our modern dance group. The public is welcome to attend. For tickets and further information, call 3960477. If your group organization would like to announce an event, please write us in care of City Line WJC TV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland 212, one one. Or call us for further information at 4660013. Between the hours of nine and five. Welcome back to City Line. We're talking about blacks who broke or across the color line and a large portion of our audience are former or current members of the armed forces. With me is Mr. Jerome Milburn, who's going to mention a couple other blacks who have made significant gains. Yes. Again, we say thanks to the men of Montford Point, who made it all possible, the men who made service for the black men in the Marine Corps a reality. And as a result of their service and contributions during World War Two, which many of them won many awards, two days on duty in the Marine Corps, the highest ranking black officer is three star Lieutenant General Peterson, who is the commander of the Quantico Marine Base. And this is his picture, which I'm showing now. Also, we have in the reserve the highest ranking black general, Brigadier General Cooper, who has a command that operates out of Atlanta. I think it is. So all of this was made possible because of the sacrifices that were made in the forties by the men who were trained and garrisoned at Camp Montfort Point, which speaks a great deal to ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=1536.02,1700.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. That's quite a call from home. I call her. You answer the line. You have a question? Yes. You're on the line. Okay, great. I'd like to first of all, I'd like to say these people are very courageous. But what I'd like. Well, please go ahead and do not listen to your television. Just talk to us. Gotcha. Okay. First of all, I'd like to say these people are very courageous. What what I'd like to say my question is, is what kept them going? What gave them the courage to keep going on during these tough times that they went through? Okay. I mean, that's something to note. Discipline. What has made the Marine Corps a fighting organization is the same thing that has made us continue. It is discipline and respect for each other. We love each other. We were a band of brothers. Ms.. Jordan, what would be your answer? Well, with that, love yourself. That's number one. Don't ever put yourself down regardless of what happens. Never. Well, I think it comes from the family growing up. My grandparents raised me because my father died two weeks before I was born, and my grandmother always said as great as anybody. Don't let anything deter you. Keep fighting. And I'll never forget that little lady with that. I'm just like to reiterate what the second said. Discipline and starting with oneself, self-discipline, that's thing is going to bring us along. And as the Dear Lady Samaha said to preparation, prepare yourself. Preparation is the name of the game. Later on, we're going to ask you for some advice to give to the young people today. Let's take another question from the audience. I think we might have someone who wants to benefit from their experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=1701.6,1809.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, I'd like to direct my question to Ms.. Jordan. I'd like to know, has the racial tension been alleviated now for blacks into an educational force as opposed to when you first entered? A little. A little. And right here, along with your question, I'd like to say this. The Department of Education back then took all of our best teachers and put them in the white schools. And people are complaining now about blacks not learning. That started up there, you know, back in the sixth lower sixties and seventies. You took your best and place. We have some good ones now. But that's a great point that I'd like to get over. So you think that's an issue that's having an impact on its education? Yes, it is. That's my idea. So just push behind. I mean, push your black teachers and and your kids and explain to them that in later life, they're going to need what we have to give them in the schools that they whether they like it or not, that's a must. Let me ask you at that. Even at the time that you were you went into your respective fields, did you see yourselves as trailblazers at all? Did you say, I'm a trailblazer, I'm the first or I'm one of the first, or I'm going to do this and prove a point? How did you view yourselves in those particular areas? Well, coming into the fire service, we're, as I said before, about 11 or 16 guys just a bit ahead of me. But what I intend to do as I feel today is not boasting, being the best damn firefighter there is. I remember the stereotype they had about us with regard to how long did people and I work at 36, and I never said I was there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=1809.81,1915.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was pointed and and I stayed there. And often not all of them, but every now and then, a kid would get up on that track there. And he did so. And so do I. One Sunday kid was up more than any was electrocuted and we have to get him down. And they cut the power down. We went to bed to get him and one of my white firefighters said, You want me to get him? I none know how you said you don't know who I am. I'll do my job. But that's what the stereotype does that you have, you know, your afraid of dead people, paints and all that sort of thing, you know. But you have to show them that you're made of the same thing, if not better than me. Okay. Okay. Well, our discussion is going to continue in just a minute, but we've got to take another one of those breaks. So stay with us. We'll be back in just a sec. Transportation for City Line's guest is furnished by Brody Limousine Service, specializing in super stretch limousines at affordable prices. City Line's Black History celebration today is about crossing the color line. Let's take a call from home. Someone who wants to talk to each of you. Hi. CALLER you're on the air right now. Yes, please go ahead. My question is directed to Mr. Saxton. How do you think that the black youth and the black community have become so relaxed with the lifestyles of the eighties and the struggles in Detroit? I would have to say that I see a lot of indications that we are losing that very vital skill of survival. We're becoming complacent and thinking that it's a free lunch, that one doesn't have to work for things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=1916.16,2110.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And while we are becoming complacent, our adversaries are coming far more sophisticated and therefore we have the questions that are being asked similar to the one that was asked earlier. Do you think we've become complacent because you did your job so well and made it so easy for the young people? I certainly hope not. Advice to young people coming into the service, fire service or be the military at second said discipline and stop bringing end street rules. We have rules and regulation. They must be obeyed. And on this job as in a service, if you find you can't obey them, you're going to find yourself elsewhere. As Mike Ditka said on the the football coach, the Chicago Bears. If you want a good enough job, get another job. This is a problem that young blacks don't seem to understand. You know, they place the idea of individuality and self assertion above that of discipline. Seemingly we have in the department. And it's no secret we have drug problems and we have the what they call the bad conduct where you can go for 30 days whatsoever. But we who had the struggle, we didn't have that problem. And what I find very quickly, when they took away the uniform and the Forest Service, it's up to you. You can wear it or you don't want to. Then our problems increased tenfold, in particular with us. Why? Why? How do you tie that into the you taking away the unit Very quickly, what we had to do if we had outside jobs, What, not at four at the 330 they about you're doing it for you get yourself ready to go on that job. And myself I took great pride in time my time putting that hat on and going in there in uniform.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=2111.32,2214.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There was a certain attitude that was lost. Right. So, Dawn, what would you what advice would you give to young people when so many of them want to be athletes and pulling these big salaries and get the acclaim? What would you say to them? Well, the first thing it's again, it starts in the home. I think today with equal rights and everything is our morale and morale is down. I can do this and nobody's going to say anything about it. I think we should go back and get some bylaws that's go along with you can't if you want to. You want to play. You're going to have to do this. You're going to have the curfew and then go back to curfews and drug testing of kids today. I don't know what it is. Not only the youngsters, but those who are participating and making the gross salaries and the drugs, I guess, is the easy to buy the they think they can get away with using, but there's no winning and drove the guy who. Pelzer. Pelzer the guy who uses it the big distributor. Nobody is going to win it after all. So let's go back to some of the things we used to do. As I was coming up, I was brought up in, in a church surrounding and they always said those who pray together stay together. And so I still believe in this. And that is the one of the main things we we're going to have to get back to if we're going to settle or destroy this this problem we're having today with the youngsters. And of course, we're having problems in the educational field. Johnny and Jackie can't read. What do you say to them? Is Jordan education? Listen, follow directions and you'll come out on top.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=2214.93,2313.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You have to be a good follower in order to be a leader. And you, knowing yourself here what you want to be, strive for it. Do everything possible within the law to attain it. An assessment to take us out. Yes, I think that there are three model sins. Failure to be prepared, right? Failure to learn and failure to apply what one learns. And and above all, there is nothing greater than self discipline. Respectfully, old mind. I think that we've learned a lot. I know I have. And we hope that that the experiences that you've shared with us today will serve those young folks. Now we need that kind of direction and need to find themselves as opposed to a certain extent. We thank all of you for being here. Indeed, this has been quite a lesson for all of us, and it was great to have you during Black History Month for sure. Thank you. Thank you. Best of luck to you. There's more City Line coming up to your monitors, news gap. Stay with us. We'll be right back. I'm two months here today on News Corp. We five. What Urban League Sun means to Baltimore. Still ahead on today's entertainment fades, Grace Jones's latest. I'm not perfect, but I'm perfect for you. You won't want to miss. Good afternoon. I'm to montana. Topping today's news cap, Maryland congressman parent Jane Mitchell apparently distraught over recent newspaper articles tying him to an investigation of scandal plagued Web Tech Corp., A defense contractor has formed a committee of lawyers, both local and national, to analyze the situation. Mitchell wants to know what avenues of redress are available to him. Those lawyers will make their recommendations to the retired congressman sometime later this week. In case you did not know, today is Urban League Sunday in Baltimore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=2313.78,2512.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The Urban League is the nation's second oldest civil rights organization founded in 1911. To answer the question, what is Urban League Sunday and what is its special significance is the Baltimore Urban League's communications director, Marie Givens. And Ms.. Givens, we want to thank you for joining us this afternoon. Thank you. Let's answer the question then. Misgivings. What is Urban League Sunday? Urban League Sunday is a reaffirmation of our ties. That is the National Urban League and the Baltimore affiliate with the religious community. During these times when our civil rights are being challenged, when unemployment is running rampant and our youth are not receiving quality education, we've decided that we need to pull together to establish a force that can challenge these problems and make our voices heard. This is the second annual Urban League Sunday. And for the benefit of our viewers, would you explain exactly what's happening now in churches throughout the country, in churches, throughout the country? Members of the Urban League staff and and board members of the Urban League will be making statements to various congregations again, reaffirming their commitment to the religious community, asking for their support and bringing to the congregations the understanding that our services are there. They're free of charge, and they go from finding you a job, finding you a scholarship, helping you to buy a house, or helping you to keep your home. There are approximately, as you mentioned to me earlier, I think you said 30 churches in Baltimore City alone and numerous churches throughout the country that will be hearing the Urban League's message today for the benefit of our viewers. Many do not know what the Urban League offers. And certainly I was not aware of many of the programs that the Urban League offers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=2513.5,2619.1"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Could you explain some of the services that the Urban League offers and how it would benefit the community? Our three major thrusts are education, and in education, we will assist you in finding scholarships. We will work with the schools in developing educational programs. We will also work with parents to assist them in their parenting roles and in accessing the educational system to better the quality of education provided to their children. I see here, according to the information you provided me, the Urban League offers consumer services, health and Human resources, Youth Diversion Information. You have an information processing training center, communications, education and youth incentives. You have a lot of programs going on that the community may not be aware of. What are you doing to get that word out and how is the community? How much of the community should I say is taking advantage of all that you have to offer? We operate a speaker's bureau. We will come to the school, to the church, to your community organization. We will bring literature, letting you know about the services that we provide. We invite you to come to our location and check us out. And we do all of these services without charge. Basically, today there is an information day where you want to get the word out to the people that the Urban League has the numerous services that you need to take advantage of and you need to look into. Is that right? That's correct. Okay. Well, let's talk about the basics briefly. The historical origination of the Urban League. I was not familiar. We can look at the ACP as being the oldest civil rights organization founded in 1910. You're the second oldest founded in 1911. The but we look at the NAACP as a civil rights organization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=2619.49,2721.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How would you define the mission of the Urban League? The mission of the Urban League is simply to obtain equality and equal opportunity for all. It's plainly stated enough and certainly easy to understand. Are the people taking advantage of the programs that you have to offer? Yes, they are. How are they going about doing that? They come into our office. We're open from 9 to 5, Monday through Friday, or we'll make appointments after that time. We should stress that you offer such basic services as you were discussing with me earlier, as mortgage services. And you are saying, explain that situation to our audience. If a person say is having difficulty meeting their mortgage payments, the Urban League can be some very real assistance in that case. Oh, most definitely. We have counselors on staff who will work with you and work with your financing organization to help you readjust your payments so that you can maintain your home, your family can stay in the home, and once you are back on a regular. Employment bases receiving payment that will allow you to pick up your mortgage payments when you left off. You will no longer you will not be out in the street. You won't have to look for another home and go through that process again. And that's one basic service of many that the Urban League has to offer. And it would behoove our audience to check into what services the Baltimore Urban League and the Urban League offers in general. And because this is Black History Month has given us, we would like to mention that the Urban League, as we said, was founded in 1911, but it's the result of a merger between two organizations. And would you tell us what those two organizations were? Those two organizations are the National Council for the Protection of Colored Women and the Urban Committee on Negro Conditions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=2721.97,2820.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I thought that was most interesting was given to. We want to thank you for joining us this afternoon and good luck. It's Urban League Sunday and hopefully if someone should read some more information, where should they call? They should call 5238150. Thank you very much. And thank you. And that is today's news cap. I'm t. Monte moore of city line is coming up next. Do stay with us and have a happy Urban League Sunday. No. I'm not. Hi, Harold. Anthony here in no time was singer actress model Grace Jones was so avant garde to American taste as to be downright intimidating. But time has proven just what a trendsetter she is. At age 12, Jones left her native Jamaica and moved to New York with a family. She attended Syracuse University, where she began studying, acting and later joined the Wilhelmina Modeling Agency in New York City. Soon, she relocated to Paris, where she prospered as a model. Elle Vogue and Stern magazines were among the magazines she graced, pardon the pun, and cover photos. Disillusioned with modeling, Jones turned to singing. Her first recording contract was in France, where she quickly won a fervent following. Soon, Jones attracted an immense cult in New York, where she became the first performer to appear live at Studio 54. Her earliest releases, Portfolio, Fame and Muse, presented her as one of the few stars of the dance club heyday with a distinctive individual style taken as a whole. Jones's first six LP trace her impressive musical growth and experimentation. Concurrent with her recording career, Jones was making strides in the visual realm a long form video. One man show received a Grammy nomination for Best New Video in 1983, and in 1984, she made her motion picture debut as the mercenary warrior sidekick Zula and CONAN the Destroyer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=2821.6,3076.92"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In 1985, she starred as the Villainess May Day in the James Bond Adventure A View to a Kill. Jones also appeared in the stylish TV commercials for Honda Scooters in 1984 and 85. And although some say that she's outright outrageous or even blasphemous, Grace never claimed to be perfect and keeping with her own brand of artistry as Grace Jones with I'm not perfect, but I'm perfect for you. At a different time. To. Spending all the time. World together. Behind his key. From the beginning. She's a white. We are not fakey. It's be. I'm not. Everything. Everything's perfect. It's. Oh, you had to go. Right on. Oh, we are never. I just got off. You're right. Something better. One stormy night. I'm not. No, I'm not. Oh, you. Right on time. I. Well, you. Now I'm. I. A new ride on. Why wait? He doesn't matter where he lives in the. We are. I'm not. Well, you know. Long time. You on. On Titan. That was the ever evolving Grace Jones. Moving right along, if you're looking for activities going on in the Baltimore area, you'll be pleased to discover that a host of events are planned to commemorate Black History Month. One such event is the Baltimore Museum of Art's display of the celebrated works of photographic photographers Jane van der Zee and Aaron Suss Guide. The display, which is being co-sponsored by WJZ ETV, can be seen Tuesdays through Sundays now through March 1st. Admission is $2 for all over 21 and to all nonmembers. For more details, call 3966310. In addition, WJC and the Baltimore Museum of Art will also co-sponsor a series of daylong events celebrating the contributions of blacks in various facets of American life. The events will take place every Sunday during the month of February.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=3077.73,3375.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I strongly encourage you to participate in this month of Black History celebrations. Something just came across my desk that will be of interest to all you jazz fans. Is that the master keyboardist Bob James will be in full concert. Tuesday, February 24th, 1987 at 8 p.m. with a very special guest, George Howard, at the beautiful Joseph Meyerhoff Symphony Hall. It's an affair you won't want to miss. For more information, call 8373, two, two, two. And with that, another pages turn. I'm Howard Anthony. Hoping you all have a great week. I'd say Grace Jones as calm, cool and collected as ever. Wow. Well, we want to thank Harold for that beautiful entertainment page today and also to thank our four guests. I am inspired there definitely as well. Wonderful. If you like today's show, please write us. Let us know what you think about today's show and our four guests that we have. And if you have any ideas about any other show topics or shows that we've done in the past or shows you think we ought to do in the future, then write us here at City Line Care of GTV Television Hill, Baltimore, Maryland, two, one, two, one, one. You're good at that. Yes. And as if I needed a segue way, we've got letters. In fact, we had loads of letters this week about some shows that we've done in recent weeks, and we'd like to share one or two a couple of those letters with you right now. One of our viewers wrote. Reverend Gene Bradford's ideology is not a best kept secret in the black community. Many of us have recognized the multitude of obstacles in our quest to improve the locks of our lives. I feel that in consideration of his Reverend Bradford's concern for change, that he identify an area of priority, initiate a program and rally for community support.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=3376.1,3493.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That matter is from Mrs. Joan Crawford of Baltimore, Maryland. And that, by the way, that letter was in response to a show that we did on black liberation theology. And we thank you for the letter. That's right. The second letter deals with the show that we did on Voodoo with Reverend Dr. Lady Bishop. And the writer says the telephone calls we made to her bishop and she to us the trip to visit her in Jersey City, New Jersey, her services and various materials total totaled an estimated $1,000. When my mother called Dr. Bishop regarding the services she had yet to render, a mother was coerced and threatened to the highest. Dr. Bishop had no intentions of completing the services nor sending a refund. This was a very frustrating experience and indeed it must have been frustrating. And we have to remind our viewers that Cindy Line in no way endorses the products or services of any of the guests who appear on our show. Certainly, we're trying to broaden your understanding, but with any product or service, you must take that into consideration. Indeed. So we want you to continue to write us here at City Line. Now, next week in third installment, our Black History salute. Next week we have the award winning on Pennsylvania Avenue Reunion. And we'd like for you to be members of our studio audience. And if you do decide to come, you call us now at 481 13, 13. And if you come, we want you to come in the costumes of the period that really is going to be a lot of fun. Yeah. Following week, we have another very special show, the fourth and final chapter in our City Line, Black History. And that's a black history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278#t=3494.71,3585.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105518/file/206278/transcript/48922/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Past, present and future. Please be with us. I'm Betty Bentley. I'm Jackie Hall. Have a good, good Sunday. Bye Bye. Bye. 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