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It's 20 seconds after 12 noon. I'm Jackie Hall, and this is City Line. And I'm Betty Bentley. And no, we're not holdovers from Halloween. And I am not Cab Calloway, and I am not Billie Holiday. We are dressed this way because we're talking about the period of the 1930s, forties and fifties, and we're having a very special reunion today, that of up on Pennsylvania Avenue. It's a documentary that aired about two years ago that, yes, a lot of water has gone under and over the dam since then. It was a wonderful show that brought back a lot of memories. We have a lot of folks in the audience today who are going to share some of those memories with us. It is our pleasure to bring to you the award winning documentary entitled Up on Pennsylvania Avenue as our Salute of Black History Month from the 1930. He was driving the bus to Baltimore, what? Harlem was to New York City. It was the place for fun and excitement for glamor and high times. You know, it still has a lot of great memories. My heavens. I didn't realize how much I enjoyed just being involved in that project. It's a great show. It was recognized both for bringing back memories and for being an excellent piece of television, which I have to congratulate my co-host for. Locally, it was recognized by the Association of Black Media Workers with a Frederick Douglass Award for an outstanding feature program. Right. And nationally, it was recognized by the Ohio State Merit Awards. And we went to Washington to receive that award. And it was, as I said, a national award, which we were very, very proud of. By the way, our executive producer of City Line now was the executive producer of up on Pennsylvania Avenue two years ago, so to say, two years ago when there was well, I couldn't fit in that dress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=88.88,232.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, no, that's not the only reason. We hope you enjoyed it. We truly did. I did. Good. And we hope that you at home will try to give us some of your memories by calling in that segment. We're going to be talking with some of the folks who appeared in that documentary. And we're going to share with us some of their memories of Pennsylvania Avenue. Right. As we continue our up on Pennsylvania Avenue reunion. So stay with us. We need to. Our Pennsylvania Avenue reunion continues. And joining us now on the set are three alumni of the the original documentary. Cami Murphy, Welcome you, J. Hiram Butler, and, of course, Ruby Glover. Thank you. It's wonderful to have you back. Did you enjoy seeing it again? Yes. Yes. Really great package to talk over and over and over. I see a lot of memories. Only thing I don't see are enough people here old enough to ask. I guess that's a compliment to the audience, I guess. But young with the audience. We're going to have to live it vicariously as I had to do, as I've done the garb of Billie Holiday or whoever. And I actually thought I was Billie Holiday. And that's what your favorite memories back there. What were the things that really made you enjoy the Avenue Ruby? Well, see, I like family. I was a teenager and I didn't have the fortune like I made to be behind the scenes because our dad was on the stage performing. But I had the pleasure of growing up in that time period, and it sort of infused the enthusiasm, built my dream into, yes, I wanted to perform and perform on the stage. I wanted to have the opportunity to have that feeling, that glamor that I saw, that it just made you feel ten feet tall just to get off the 21 bus and walk up the street.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=233.16,380.51"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How important was Dance to the Avenue, that whole nightclub scene? It was important. It was very. But there were guys who lived just for Thursday, Friday, Saturday, so that they could dance and show off. And of course, then, you know, the big drape pants were in fashion. In fact, her dad had the biggest pair of balloons down around his legs at this stage here. Right. And a hat like you. Okay. All right. I like that. And of course, it got smoothed on the side a little bit and they would stash out on the corner. You just knew it was the time for the good times to roll. You mentioned something when we were watching the doc that I kind of enjoy because I can relate to the memories that I have. My mother and her friends. The Easter Parade, you call them Easter related not being Easter Parade since we lost the tell some of the younger folks what the Easter parade was used to break that as you picked out your garments. You know, for the Easter, you try to think about yourself. When is that pride and you walked past that big judge's stand, you just strut it. I mean, and there were all kinds of glamor. Some folks would be outlandish, but some would be very stylish. And let me tell you, if you weren't in the parade, you just stood there and boggled because you had good time watching them. Then fashion shows like come on Now, they were out at that time. See, you know, she's wearing a glamor pair with pretty lead, you know, in the colors. All the colors are just fabulous. Young and old were a part of those good times. Well, we're going to invite our audience from home, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=382.13,483.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you have fabulous memories of Pennsylvania Avenue, call us now. And Floyd one 1313, because we'd like to reminisce with you as well can be. What about the best of those spots? The best place to get a chicken dinner or chitlins or whatever? Oh, baby, I had an that I was going to mention a little bit about the parades because there were a lot of parades on Pennsylvania. I remember as a child, there was a Halloween parade. Everybody would dress up in their costume. There was the Elks Day Parade, which was a big, big parade, the Shriners Parade. And then there was a and an I never saw this, but there was a beauticians marching band of women who played instruments and marched down the town I to talk about this chitlins and chicken. Well, I want to inject one thing, Jackie, that Ruby left out and come in love not to win the Easter parade. You had to buy your garments from Pennsylvania, have you? You didn't go down the Hudson and go down the floor, go downstairs and buy them. Well, that was just a just a joke about it. But anyhow, when you talk about chitlins and hog laws and it was a lady that lived I mean, that worked in the Alhambra, she could cook the best chitlins on Friday and Saturday nights and fry the best ones on Sunday. Yeah, they the funny part about Pennsylvania Avenue that I do remember when, as I said, a lot of people here are old enough to even know what I'm talking about. But when the Moon girl was built, the first hotel for blacks, the Penn Hotel. I'm the moon, not the moon. Go. I'm wrong. The Penn Hotel, Louisville with the bar and the Bell Hotel, they are the characters of Pennsylvania Avenue were my most interested.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=483.62,594.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People do observe and. With. There was a man that hung out at the Moon Hotel by the name of is an Irish Communist. His name J.P. Nicholson. They called him Dude, Nick. He was just you. You you're not you're not close to your bachelor. He had white spats and he had this pain and he had this. It's similar to yours, but he always flashed a gold back $20 bill and would ask you to change it for him. And if you recall, he'd break your arm. He didn't want anybody to change that. But you always flexibility. That's all that he does. And it's not okay. We want bring in some memories from home and invite our home audience in. Hello, You're on City Line, who has some memories of Pennsylvania Avenue. Hello. Okay. I guess I guess they forgot their memory, but fashion was very much a thing for both men and women. I've got to do this size down, man. Take a look at that time. I love I love cell towers, but this has such beautiful work in it. It's beautiful. And I want to open the jacket so you can see it, but I can't tie it like that. Yeah. Yeah. Mine is a vintage dress. This is a dress from the forties. And I have some art nouveau pins that people used to buy at the trauma center on Pennsylvania. But, you know, they can. They said the Chance Center. The Chance Center was the place for the ladies who like to have a boutique that catered to them and their staff who owned it. Mrs. Bad And she did. I remember that. Now, Hiram, you kind of stood watch over the avenue, didn't you, as a member of the law in later years It was Pennsylvania Avenue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=594.95,699.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In those days, very, very rough parts of it was, as we mentioned a little while ago at the bottom, it was divided in two parts, the upper part and the bottom. Well, when you went down to the bottom, you just had to know where you were going and what you were going down there for. But in my line of work, didn't make it much, didn't make that much difference. I had friends down there and one particular good friend of mine, dear friend of mine, was Selina. Nobody here remembers the Selina. I guess you knew she was the character and she was the boss owner of a brothel. Well, just from the office right down to Bill, she was the boss, but she didn't come above that unless she came to the market like that. But she was the boss down there. Any time you want to find out anything about that part of Pennsylvania, we just go to her. Okay? Let's try our home phones again, see if we can get the. Hello? You're on City Line? Yes. Memories of Pennsylvania Avenue. Yeah, Well, remember Pennsylvania Avenue and I remember Grand Ballroom. Hey, All right, tell us about that day, that time. Oh, we just like they said on Friday and Saturday night, we did get dressed up to stroll up Pennsylvania Avenue. It didn't have a good time. Do you miss it? Yes. And I wish they would put something in there to remind of the rule of the eight or some kind of play or something. But there is. Take a stroll. Right. Where the Royal Women at the playground Last August, we celebrated the history of the royal and right as you go approximately where the entrance of the royal was, there's a plaque that says this is the historical setting of the Royal Theater.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=699.64,794.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All right. Well, I'm sitting here and I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying the film that they showed and it brings back. All right. Have enjoyed your call. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Bye bye. Bye bye. All right. We're going to take a break right now. We'll be back and we're going to hear this will be Glover's thing in just a couple of minutes. Stay with us. We'll be back with. To. It's up in the 1920s. What are the things you're left? Hi, Charlie. Do you have to talk in my mind? You? No, I can't. Oh. Ties. You should take this. You would love. I raided my father's collection sometimes. Right. What's name is day by day by day. Okay. This has been wonderful to have a hand for two days. Oh. Now, here's this week's community calendar. Hello. My name is Etta Simms. The Ladies Auxiliary of the Knights of Peter Claver invites you to attend a mardi Gras dance on Saturday, February 28, at the Palladium. From 9 p.m. to 1 a.m. the evening includes a buffet dinner, refreshments and live entertainment. Proceeds will benefit scholarship and community charities such as the House of Ruth. For tickets and further information, please call 5424039. Hello, my name is Cynthia Howard. The walk of high class of 77 is celebrating its 10th year class reunion on Saturday and Sunday, May 30th and 31st. There will be a banquet held at the Palladium and a picnic held at Nixon's farm to highlight our special weekend to be part of the activities. Please purchase your ticket as soon as possible. The deadline is April 30th. For further information, please call 3839299. Hello, my name is Christopher Providence. Victory Elementary School will celebrate the contributions of black Americans on Monday, February 23rd, at the school as we present Baltimore Dance Collective with guests from the Park Heights Street Academy on Friday, February 27th.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=795.55,1001.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our students will present poetry, creative writings and dramatic presentation films Focusing on the black experience will also be offered throughout the entire month. To be a part of our activities, please call 396137. If your group or organization would like to announce an event, please write us in care of City Line and the AJC, TV, Television, Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. Two one, two, one, one. Or call us for further information at 46600013. Between the hours of nine and five. We're back with more of the former Pennsylvania Avenue reunion. And right now, our Ruby Glover, accompanied by Charlie Covington, is going to give us a taste of what the piano and voice did and the intimate clubs that might be frequented back in the day that Pennsylvania Avenue was hot in 50. Okay. Well, I'm not going to take up any more of the time. Let's hear it. All right. We chose a tune called Day by Day. But David Rosenberg, in love with you. And day by day, I love seeds to grow. There isn't any end to my devotion. If they buy them more than any other world. I find that day by day I'm a little bit more in love with you. Look at me. I want you to know I am yours alone. Say I lucky enough to stay as we go through the years, day by day. I'm rubbing my good luck with you at the neck. Everybody seems to roll. There isn't any end to magic potion here anymore. Go, go, go, go, Chef. I find it day by day I'm dropping more in love with you. So what I want you to know. Used to say, I'm in love. In love? The thing as we go through the years. However, through.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=1002.32,1183.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Moving through the years, day by day, day by day. That I do that is that bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. Bad bad. Bad. Bad. Bad, bad. As we go through this movie. Day by day. Rather. Guys are really fantastic. What kind of memories does that all does it bring back to you? All of the stage shows and the wonderful Royal Theater. I recall the times that I went to the Royal. They would have like a movie, kind of a short movie, sometimes black films and a lot of very interesting little stories. And then toward the end of the film, a kind of a mesh type curtain would come across and the guys would start moving the film still going on. And the film was kind of going like this, but they were moving in the back, getting in place for the for the band. And then the whole audience began to feel very excited. You could get the electricity the band was getting in place. And then when that little guys have a curtain pull back, then it just, Wow, you're just so enthusiastic, that great. Fabulous. You were a kid. Do you think that's what started you thinking about performing? Well, no. My mom was a performer and seeing her and seeing how during the day she was one individual to me. And then the second part of that day, she'd be dressing up, ready to go out. That's that was the beginning. But the cap of it was to see persons who I've always idolized as a part of my growing up with my mom. Like I never had the pleasure of seeing Billie, but Sarah Vaughan and Ella Fitzgerald, you know, and and just enjoy all of that glamor. And I always thought that I'd wind up like, you know, Harlem was mentioning some of those names, too.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=1185.72,1335.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What were some of those big names that you remember seeing on the air? I remember. I mean, yes, Ethel Waters and Ella. I remember Count Basie very vividly. And Fats Waller when he was down there and of course, at the Royal was the biggest show that ever did come to the world with the Jewel Box Revue. Oh, yes. Oh, wow. And everybody had kind of before its time wasn't we were very busy. I was in the police department at that time and kept us busy while there. Okay. We've got some memories out in the audience again. Sure do. Now, are you sure you're old enough to remember Pennsylvania Avenue in those days? I knew you were going to say before I even say anything about memories. I'd like to thank the two of you for bringing the quality that you bring to city life every week. Thank you. And I know I don't look older now. I'm old enough for the Regent movie or the royal performances, but my favorite place on the avenue was the White Rice. And that was like going to the Waldorf Astoria in New York City, I think. And I have my grandmother and my mother, who is sitting with you today to thank for that. Miss Ruby Glover is my mom and I'm so proud of her today. So I really had to just push that in there. But thank you so much for letting me share my memories. Well, thank you. And that's a pleasant surprise. That's great. That's a legend, right? Where in was our favorite? Okay, let's take another call from home, because so many memories out there. Hi, caller. You're on City Line up on Pennsylvania Avenue Revisited. Hi. I don't want to also congratulate you about your great show.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=1335.45,1435.17"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My name is Mary Carolina. My mother, My mother, my Aunt AFA also run for born and raised on Pennsylvania Avenue. Well, that's why I have a real Willow Street. Your father owned a restaurant there. Oh, before 1927. 1928, by the name of the Plantation restaurant. And my mother recalls hearing about all these blacks were coming to Baltimore, to the Royal Theater. She remembers them. But the only thing is she's 81 years old, and she's asking me to call her today. Oh, God. She has fond memories of all the wonderful times that they had on Pennsylvania Avenue. And I've got memories. She was never allowed to go because actually, my grandfather was Italian hours and he would never let them out of the house. I want to direct my question to the gentleman from my hair to say I forgot his name. I'm sorry. I would have remembered this restaurant. And if they could tell me anything about it, because I always remember my saying that they worked in the windows, flipping pancakes and making pancakes and things like that. Okay, let him answer. I have relatives who became real well up in Baltimore. The other three uncles went out to Hollywood, became came up and scholar. So I read that once in a living and I have a caller. You have loads of memories with you and I have a cousin out there is back. What would you respond? Okay, go ahead. I would like to I have two restaurants in in mind. If the plantation is the one that was in the 900 block of Pennsylvania Avenue, as you were referring to with a caller here, that. Okay, well, then, if so, that served two types of food, good food, and long before they knew anything about soul food.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=1435.5,1540.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the food was, of course, of the best quality back in those days. Right. Great. Well, listen, we've got to take a break right now, but we'll be right back. So stay with us. Transportation for City Line's guest is furnished by Brody Limousine Service, specializing in super stretch limousines at affordable prices. Welcome back to the Hamilton Avenue reunion. I had to get you in because you love wearing such a lovely dress that hopefully you wore just for us today. Thank you very much. I remember my mother taking me to the royal to see little Esther Phillips Sugar Jar Robinson. And then we would go across the street to the LA Plaza restaurant, which was called Mom. And this was where the all these stars to eat. That's where I got to get some autographs. Well, I hope you brought back some good memories, William. Thank you. Back to you, Dad. Fantastic. Everybody has such great memories. And one of the memories was yours. Be about gambling. Tell us about that quickly. Well, I never really got into gambling. I would just sort of stand on the outside. But this is a bill. When you would go into the restaurants or go into nightclubs in those days, they would take your picture as a group. And this is one of the pictures that was taken at Gameboys and my grandmother is in them, is in the background. She has on the little pointer in the center with the little pointed hat, sort of as, you know, sort of fancy. Everybody wore hats in those days. And that's why I have this very fancy hat. And a lot of the hats were made, especially for the women. They were milliner milliners who may have known Gambie was the first place I ever won a contest on the Avenue, and I was sharing with Candy and Ham.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279#t=1542.41,1670.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105520/file/206279/transcript/48919/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was the first time I'd ever won a contest in the public eye and got three weeks there. So you're with me. You're almost at the end of this hour. We hate to say it. This has been fantastic. And even though I didn't have the actual era, I think I have relived. I think it's out Ruby with a great song. Why don't we just pay tribute to you? That's great. I'm just wild about Harry. Harry. I mean, everybody was having a blast. His passing just filled me with. Again, I'm really sorry about me. I'm just worried about what can I do without that? Wherever you are. Glad you were here. It's been a lot of fun. Harry. Harry is wrong with me. Come on, Charlie. Come on. Let's have a little heart out there now. How about some? I mean, you know, we like to. I'm just would. He knows what's going on up on Pennsylvania Avenue reunions. Been a lot of fun. Indeed. It's been a pleasure for us to relive these hours with you. Thanks a lot. We've got to go now. I'm Betty back. I'm Jack Hall. Have a good, good Sunday. 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