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And I'm Harold Anthony. Welcome to City Life. Jail is the last place anyone wants to go, but my guest on today's show goes there every day and likes it. She's the new commissioner of the Baltimore City Jail. Barbara Bostic This, she says, is a way of giving back to the community. And Vanessa Williams will pay us a visit later in the show and tell us how she now has the right stuff to make it big as an entertainer. So stay with us on Cityline. Yeah. Welcome to City Line and thank you for coming. Barbara Bostic, She's our guest today on City Line. Thank you for. And she is the new commissioner of the Baltimore City jail, right? Yes. I can't believe it when I look at you. You're not what I would expect a female commissioner to be, even though there aren't any in the in the entire country. What what is it about the job that fascinates you? I think about what I do with the Baltimore City jail. Not so much the glamor with the position because that being a commissioner at the city jail is not glamorous. Again, as you said, it's my way of giving something back to the community for what I've been given as my profession. So it's a way of giving something back. What was it that attracted you about the whole field of corrections when you started some 15 years ago? When I started in corrections, it was as a volunteer working in the women's prison in Tennessee with my cousin. And from that point, it was just corrections. It started out as an accident. It was nothing that I looked forward to. But once I got into the field, I felt very comfortable with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=70.5,195.5"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I had no problems in doing a good job and trying to work with people. I guess my feeling was always that you work and you strive to try to help people the best way you can. And people in jail who are incarcerated. I think a lot of times as society, we tend to write them off. We say that there is no good to be found, that you can't do anything with the people that you work with. But I think we've made a difference and that's what we're trying to do. When you announce to people who don't know you that you are the commissioner of the Baltimore City jail, what's the response to you as a female, as an attractive, petite female? Most people who know me and I have worked throughout the country with the National Institute of Corrections and here in the state of Maryland. So most people who know me know my capabilities. So they look beyond the female. They look beyond the aspect of being female, being small. They know my abilities and know that once I set my mind to doing something, that's what will happen and that I'm here to do a good job and to work with people and to really try to change the situation and turn it around. What is it that you will bring to the Baltimore City jails system that perhaps was not in place before that will make a difference for the inmates and where they are, both male and female? I think at the Baltimore City jail, again, the staff, there's a lot of support that I have coming in as the new commissioner with all the staff that as far as employees at the Baltimore City jail, over 800 employees. I come in with their support, having worked there two years in the corrections field at city jail and with the inmates, I think there's a sense of respect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=195.59,302.57"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't believe that we walk the institution, that we are above, the people that we tend to supervise and that we have and that we have care in custody for. So you have respect for the inmates? Yes. And that respect is shown back. You know, I'm not here to say that out of 3000 inmates, that all is well. Of course it is not. But we have our problems. But I think as a staff, we're able to deal with those the best way we can. Is there ever a time when you walk through the the areas where the inmates are, whether they're males or females who've obviously done something against the law, committed some crimes of some sort? Is there ever a time when there is fear in you? I have not honestly had a situation where I have been fearful in walking the institution. I think I go with the attitude that if I'm fearful, I do not need to be there. And if people that are employed there are fearful of their jobs or their lives and working inside the institution, that is not the place you need to be. But you're in an environment where there are people who have committed crimes, some very serious crimes, some more than one crime. Doesn't that ever cross your mind, though? What do you do then? And instances just simply to protect yourself, if nothing else? I don't do anything differently. Of course, when you go in the institution, you're always on guard. You know, the thought is not always present, you're always cautious. But as a trained corrections profession, you know that when you walk the institution, when you work with people, when you deal with people, you can only do the best that you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=303.47,402.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you don't look for situations to get out of hand and you try always to be in control. Over the 15 years, looking back, what has been your most harrowing experience for you? I think when I worked in Tennessee, I started working with juvenile male offenders and working with juveniles of all the population. You had a sense. That when you worked with them, you made a difference in their lives, that always something that you were able to do. They were able to grasp. And you only hope that something that you did, no matter if it was the smallest thing, that it was something that they could take and use at some later date. I think that the juveniles were the population. I tended to work best with in terms of seeing some productivity there an awful lot of problems at the Baltimore City jail, in addition to problems in the Maryland correctional system, period. You have to tackle a lot, right? Yes. What about the whole issue of overcrowding? You mentioned some 3000 inmates in a correctional facility. That's for how many? We were originally designed to hold about 1900 inmates. And over the years, of course, the population has risen. Of course, crowding right now is our number one problem. It is the number one priority for us. As you know, we are under consent decree, court order to reduce the population. And we have taken some internal measures to take a look at that. And recidivism also plays a very large role in what we have to deal with on a day to day basis, working with the people who. What do you plan to do about it, though, the overcrowding? Well, at present we are working with home monitoring and what home monitoring has allowed us to do at the people that we have been housing in our work release facilities, people that were already on the streets working in jobs that we had placed from the from the facilities.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=403.37,518.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're now having them on home monitoring programs and still monitoring them. Okay. We're going to talk about that because that's exciting. We'll talk about that when we come back right after this. And. We're talking to Barbara Bostick, who is the commissioner of the Baltimore City Jail. Just before that break, we were talking about home monitoring. Now how that's happening. And he said there are some 200 inmates who are now on home monitoring. Yes, home monitoring is a concept that is widespread. Just about every institution in the nation has started working with the home monitoring devices. What it does, it allows an institution, because of the overcrowding situation, number one, to try to put people back into the communities. Most of the people that we have on the home monitoring bracelets are working. So again, they would be work release eligible. They are sentenced and they are more or less productive members of the community. There are some restrictions to their movement after certain things that they are assigned to do or posted on. We have monitoring devices where the staff is able to call an inmate while he is at home, and if the inmate is out of bounds, we immediately know. And we also have staff that will go around and monitor the whereabouts even without calling on the bracelets. Now, other problems that obviously are mammoth for you, the whole issue of security in the during the summer, there were additional escapes from the Baltimore City jail. And they've always been a history of escapes from the city jail. What about that internally? Again, I have been as commissioner going on three weeks now. And one thing I did initially was to put together an internal security task force. Again, there's always things that you can improve.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=519.5,698.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"All these things that we need to take a look at. And that's one of the things that we're doing right now, looking at what we are doing and see if we can improve that a little better. One of our charges and of course, when you think about the community and inmates and jail, of course we're responsible for the safety of the community. And that's what we will really take a good look at and make sure that we do not have escapes. Other problems that you must face, I'm sure, in your tenure. Alcohol abuse, alcoholic alcoholism, drug abuse, drug problems and all of those are. Yes. How will you tackle those? 80% of our population at the city jail presently, we think are either drug or alcohol abusers. Again, going back to substance abuse programs, trying to work with the communities. And I think that's the key. Working with the communities and getting the communities involved with what happens at the city jail because we are a pre trial detention place. People do not stay with us as with the state long periods of time, but they stay up for how long? Basically. Basically a year. You know, people can be sentenced up to a year, up to a lot of the people that we have do not stay that long. So we have a very rapid turnaround rate with the people that we send back to the communities. So getting involved with the communities, working with the drug and alcohol treatment programs, working with the churches and just the families and trying to help the inmates going back. Speaking of families, I would imagine that many of the men are fathers and many of the women are mothers. How do you focus on the family to be sure that some of the needs of either the inmate or the family not incarcerated are still being taken care of? Well, as when I was director of the Women's Detention Center on a given month, we had 21 pregnant females in the institution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=699.51,807.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that, for the staff was a very horrendous task dealing with that many pregnant females. What we have done is instituted pregnancy classes. You know, we have parenting classes and we've allowed, once a child is born, the child to come back to the institution and start some bonding processes with the mothers. Our social how long? Not very long. They do not stay at the institution. They are only able to come and visit. The family members have to bring them back to visit. And our social worker has started working with the families more regularly. We have what we call family days on a regular basis. As you say, a lot of the fathers. So that there's continuous contact. Yes. And visitors are constant throughout the institution. So we try to keep that balance and try to keep the families as best we can. The space limitations at the jail does not permit us to do an awfully lot with that at this point. When you look at the inmate population, are you seeing an increase in the numbers of younger offenders and also of female offenders? We have not seen a drastic increase in the number of female offenders. I think our female population has stayed pretty constant. Younger offenders, not really. I guess out of the 3000 inmates we have, maybe 300 or so may be juveniles. Juveniles up to age 18. I think what we're seeing is an older population coming into the institution at this point. How do you explain that? Do you have any sense of that? Again, I think it's because of the recidivism. When you go back and take a look at the records, we may find that a lot of the older. Population have been coming through the jail for a long period of time is not the first time around.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=808.71,911.3"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We have very few first offenders. So a recidivism is really you know, when you look at recidivism and you look at an expanding and increasing population of inmates. Are we failing at corrections? Are we actually failing at rehabilitation? I, I guess I would say that we have not done a very adequate job in rehabilitation. If we say rehabilitation was supposed to work, I think the only thing that we're able to do in corrections is to offer them the opportunities. And I think a lot of times we have not continually had the resources to give them those opportunities, to help them to go back in the communities and be productive citizens. One thing that we have at the jail is a jail industries program, a program that will help provide inmates skills when they leave the institution. And we're trying to get that back on track to be able to reach more people before they leave. What else are you doing right over there already? I think in terms of what we're doing right is offering a sense of accomplishment to inmates. We have a Title one program, which with all the juvenile inmates, they are required to continue high school. There's computer literacy courses. I think there are about 130 religious groups that come in on a regular basis, tutorial programs, and again, the parenting classes. Now, you've been on the job a little less than three weeks now. Looking forward, when will you know that you've been successful and you've done a job there? I think I knew that the day I walked in. I can't measure my success by tangibles. I think my success will be measured by my attitude, what I'm able to give to others, what I'm able to portray, what I see in others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=911.84,1028.45"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think if I can help others to get a positive attitude about corrections, not only the people that work there, but the community are changing their attitudes about what we do, getting involved with us, and knowing that the people that we serve, that we have, that that institution, they belong to the community, they belong to you. It is not just my responsibility to give them those opportunities that I need the help. So the community has a stake in the community should have a very big stake in, and it will draw them in more and more. Yes, we plan to again, after two weeks, there are still a lot of things that I still need to do. Find out what's going on in which direction to go. Well, this has been fantastic. Let me ask you if you could just summarize what your basic philosophy of corrections is. What would that be? I think my philosophy of corrections would be that it's there to offer the opportunity. I believe that people should be locked up. You know, I'm not I do believe that if you commit the crime, the judges sentence you. You belong in my institution. But I think if you come to my institution, it's my responsibility to give you something that's going to keep you out of there. Are you tough? I try to be. Well, good luck to you. And thank you for taking time out of your schedule to come by City Line. Thank you. We're going to wish you the best of luck in what you're doing there. Thank you very much. We'll take a break and come back with the community calendar when you. I've had make the moves. So many. Shit, man. But never have I been so quick to add to it by.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=1028.99,1177.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Never has love. And so. You know, Jackie, I'm going to have to agree with you. If I met that lady on the street. A corrections commissioner would be about my one millionth guess of what she does for an occupation. But you know what? I think what we're doing, we're thinking of the Hollywood portrayal of what a commissioner of corrections or a warden ought to be. Yeah, And this is a new breed of tough lady. Tough, tough ladies. There's a lady who's making a comeback now after being at the very bottom. We'll see what makes Vanessa Williams what gives her the right stuff right after this. I'm not done. Vanessa Williams, The former Miss America, was once known as one of the two most talented women in America. She's now being recognized as one of the toughest women in America. She explains how she got this reputation in this interview. We want to give you that, because next to him is no other one. He's very sexy. Oh, so sweet. And then that's me, Matthew. These days, Vanessa Williams is wowing them with her music video, which is reminiscent of the style made popular by Michael and Janet Jackson. The featured artists is slickly produced with a chorus of well choreographed dancers clad in skintight top. The energy is hot, and so are the numbers. The Right Stuff single hit number one on the R\u0026B charts shortly after it was released. Yes, I'm surprised. But I prayed and prayed and I'm glad that my prayers were answered because, you know, it's my first single, it's the first album. And I think there's a lot of pressure on myself and on a new record label called Wing and, you know, produced producers that were more or less unknown to to really prove themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=1182.14,1425.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think we did have take. I guess. The meteoric rise of Vanessa's first album seems to fall in line with the infectious presence that gave her the Miss America crown Song of Two. Happy days are here. And our new Miss America is Vanessa Williams. Mr.. From the moment she was crowned Miss America in 1984, the controversy began. Many blacks felt her victory was bittersweet because her fair complexion, green eyes and straight golden brown hair features considered Caucasian, diluted the fact that she is the first black woman to win the Miss America crown in the pageant 63 year history. I did. I could handle anything. But the schedule is really physically the most taxing and mentally probably to just because, you know, I started out today doing all these interviews and by this time, mentally, I am almost frazzled, which also is related physically. So I think it's definitely the schedule, not even, you know, the controversy when I'm 20 years old and presently a junior at Syracuse University majoring in musical theater. Through hard work and perseverance, I hope to make my dream of a successful career on the Broadway stage come true. Two months before the end of Vanessa's reign, Penthouse published kinky new photos of the beauty queen, forcing her to become the first Miss America to resign. I see your name and lots of it. Vanessa, did the scandal hurt you personally? More so than professionally? It has hurt personally and professionally, and I think that being taken seriously in the in the entertainment business is hard enough. So it definitely hurt. But again, I have to keep moving to other people over and over again that, yes, I am talented. Yes, I can deliver. Yes, I have, you know, the right stuff and it'll go on for the rest of my life until I have proven with my body of work that, yes, I am worthy of having a career.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=1425.72,1557.28"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I want to concentrate on this brand new album called The Right Stuff. So far, we're doing real good. We promised you that. We'll dig into the album. SHOWBIZ insiders are saying the sex scandal is helping, not handling her charisma with stage, film and television credit. Do you want a major your. Perhaps Vanessa does have the right stuff. Louis Martin, a producer who does a lot of the exposé stuff, and it's called I'll be the one on one station and w I l de am 1090. Oh, baby. But it takes more than one album to make a career. Publicist Ramone Hervey knows that after plotting the careers of Bette Midler, Al Jarreau, David Sanborn and Little Richard Hervey knows how to make a star. And since he's married to Vanessa, he says he doesn't worry about having his phone calls returned. I'd like to think that marriage is based on what The same reasons most people get married on our friendship and a love for each other. I think in my heart that's really what why we're together from a marriage standpoint. The professional influence that I was able to have on her career at that time worked to help keep her focused on her career. I think more than anything else. I mean, Vanessa is a very determined woman on her own. Right. And I don't take full credit for everything that's happened to her. I think I did love her as much as I've loved her as much as I can and given her as much input as I can to help her accomplish her dream. Son. Venue. Ow! Ow, ow, Ow! 730. We confirm a. This time. Vanessa and Ramone are proud parents of a one year old. They wish they could spend more time with, but they are meeting the demands of parenting and career path.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349#t=1558.14,1677.67"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/105579/file/206349/transcript/48986/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've got. What is the right stuff? Well, for me, it was it was coming out slam and coming out hard and really proving to people that, yes, I do have the makings of a recording artist. You know, as I said, I continually have to prove over and over again that, yes, I'm serious about my music. I am trained in music. This is not just a thing that happened overnight and I just got it on my notoriety. I had planned on being here and I have taken the precautions and strategy and the planning to to get where I am right now. Vanessa is working hard to recoup some of the finances she lost in a futile lawsuit with Penthouse publisher Bob Guccione. But she doesn't look back on the Miss America pageant or the scandal with too much bitterness these days. Do you carry the Miss America title with you for the rest of your life? I think it's a label. It's definitely it is a title. It's an accomplishment. And I think that I'll always be a part of. Vanessa Williams, Former Miss America. It's just part of the title, I think. Eventually, though, I mean, ten years down the line, I'd like to be remembered for it. Former Miss America, but also have a ten years body of work that people can say, I loved her in this film. That album was my favorite. And, you know, that's what I'd like to be recognized for. Nine. Amazing story. Vanessa Williams, Jack in a Sweet Reggie Welles Beauty Makeover. I'm Harold Anthony. I'm Jackie Hall. Bye bye. 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