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Here we go. Talking about the proposed congressional pay raises, raising their salaries from $89500 to $135000, ending allegedly all the honoraria, all the speeches and extra money they make so they don't square off. We ask those of you watching at home and those of you on our panel, should members of Congress get the 50% pay raise? Peter Waldron.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=58.17,80.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's outrageous. It's a rape of the American taxpayer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=80.88,83.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Phyllis Brodtmann It is absolutely a necessity to pay our congressmen and women a fair share of the market value of their jobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=84.0,91.38"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The Reverend St George Cross.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=91.68,93.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Kweisi Mfume and Alan Bentley are two of the hardest working people in Maryland. They deserve a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=94.08,99.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Raise. And Ron Smith, it is an abomination. And just another example of the imperial arrogance that's prevalent inside the Washington Beltway.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=99.93,107.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We are split two against two, and we'll talk about it tonight on World. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=107.88,122.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e TRUJILLO So now we wait.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=123.14,125.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He's just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=125.78,125.96"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Gargling.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=126.14,126.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I was choked up because I see Kweisi Mfume and Helen Bentley as two of our hardest working congresspersons. And we are the people who pay Tyson 20 million for a 90 minutes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=126.62,139.29"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I said, Oh, Tyson.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=139.69,140.48"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We just said, No, no, we don't pay Mike Tyson for that fight. Yes, we are saying, George, he paid out of taxpayer money in there in life. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=140.93,147.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e When they're not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=148.46,149.03"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Serving, we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=149.66,150.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Say that's what he's worth. We pay a Cal Ripken a million a year. Why can't we pay our congresspersons back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=150.32,157.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Because that is a typical example of the of the specious arguments in favor of this rape of the taxpayer. And that is that these people you cite as example, Saint George, are not paid in any way with taxpayer dollars. They are not in any way public servants. They are not in any way beholden to set an example for the rest of the public servants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=157.47,174.77"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e To make a dollar is a dollar. And these people are working 18 hours a day. They need to be paid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=175.13,181.43"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e There is something more that we need to look at them than what you're saying. They are not able to reply to other people. They are the people who make the laws of their land. They live in several places. They hold two homes, most cases because they live in Washington. They live in their districts. And I believe that we should not take away from them the rightful opportunity to have a salary increase. They are like the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=181.76,207.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e 15 months ago, Phyllis, of 13.7%. What do you mean? Take away the right to have a pay?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=208.36,213.59"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And they are like the CEOs of major corporations as far as and the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=213.83,217.31"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Corporations are making a profit and the shareholders have an opportunity to determine if, in fact the CEOs are entitled to a pay increase. We're talking about, as Ron would suggest, an imperial action by the part of a Congress which is not even going to determine within itself if it wants a raise. No, just pass it right on by.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=217.4,234.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What Peter is saying now is what makes sense. Should they get a raise now when we have these big deficits? And shouldn't they be made to say, yes, I'll take it, I think, or no, I don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=235.07,245.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Want it out of import.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=246.17,246.86"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=247.28,247.91"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e What you do. It's how.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=248.18,249.26"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e George.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=249.89,249.89"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Rather how you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=250.19,250.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Know that they deserve a raise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=250.7,251.87"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You and I are on the same side. However, I think you're overlooking a number of points. One, the judges are also tied into this pay raise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=252.08,259.16"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And I think because of Congress's absolute. Wait a second. This. Wait a second. I can't allow this to go by. This can be demolished right away.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=259.55,268.9"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e We got recently.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=269.37,269.53"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Congress has refused to untie itself from the pay for the federal judiciary. So please let us not use that as a shield, saying that, well, if judges should get paid more, so should Brian Ross.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=270.26,279.47"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Would you respect those? Right. Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=279.65,280.83"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I thank you. Thank you, Richard. I do believe that judges should be paid an honest salary because they give everything up. They are. We can't get good judges in at that level if we don't have a pay raise. 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Let's finish.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=297.44,298.82"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Reverend, please. Just because we yell doesn't make it more right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=299.42,302.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's correct. And we're not going to yell anyhow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=303.14,304.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that it's important that the congressmen and women get a good pay raise. I'm not in favor 50%, but I am in favor of their pay raise. They do give up a lot. And they are always running. Always running. I'm sorry. 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Well, I'm one of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=322.22,323.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Best for that job. And now you want the whole hog.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=323.75,326.0"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, that sounds a lot. Oh, that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=326.19,328.64"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e That's nothing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=328.82,329.33"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=329.99,330.11"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That has to be one of those quotations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=330.35,333.02"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Always remember the pork chop you got.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=333.86,335.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=336.81,336.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You got if you got a 50% pay raise, would you turn it down?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=338.48,342.08"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Of course not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=342.47,342.74"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, then why do you expect my congresspersons to be any different?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=343.37,346.13"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But if I get it, it's in the private sector. All right, well, it's not my fault. Look, let. Let me. Let me. Can I please have one moment to lay? I have a rules that are very, very germane to the situation. You say congresspeople deserve a pay raise. I agree. I don't think their pay should be frozen in perpetuity. But here's the fact. Since 1981, when Ronald Reagan came into office, they have had a pay raise of over 66% so far. So far. Now, if you add this proposed one on, you are getting into the 100% pay raise, a 100% pay increase in a single decade. Now, is that not a considerable amount? Furthermore, the big item in this is the increase in pension benefits. The actuarial increase to the average congressman through this pay increase is $800,000. There has been an entire new class created in our country of federal millionaire pensioners, and it's been done because of Congress's ability to construct its own pension plan, one that would bankrupt any private company in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=347.02,406.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=407.05,407.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They have a wonderful job. The people who come into it, if you look at the freshman class, all but a handful have increased their income by coming into Congress at the current level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=407.36,416.81"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, for no other income you realize that they don't have. Wealthy families at the other end that have businesses and their spouses do work. They are they have no other job. And I believe that they should be paid fairly. There was a commission that said that this was the pay raise. 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But I say this all those congresspersons, all those people in the private sector who don't want to raise when you get your raise, send it to me at HUD. I'll use it to house the house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=436.36,455.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I believe that the problem that we have is that we already sent a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=455.68,459.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Letter to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=459.28,459.55"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e 90% of the American people oppose a pay raise. The congressmen represent the American people. The American people are entitled to a vote on the pay raise. It's that simple. And no one is saying, is it up or is it down? We're simply saying, let Congress, the House of Representatives, Jim, write monarch himself over the Imperial Congress. Hold the vote. That's all we're asking for. Let the members of the House tell us if they want a vote. If they want a pay raise, they don't. Peter, put them on the line. We're talking about giving a pay raise to a group of cowards. The House of Representatives will not vote on this because they're afraid. Of whom? The American people. Why should they? The representatives of the people, be afraid of the people? Because they know they won't get their job back. And they love the pork. They love all the perks that come with that job. It is an outrageous imperial act by an outrageous Congress. They are spitting on the American people, and I object to that. 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And the fact is that we have to go about our own business. You know, if we had an election today, too, if we the public had an election today to vote on this pay raise, let me tell you, people would not go to the polls. They're too busy doing something else. They don't go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=523.27,543.73"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Cross the line. The American people on this issue have crossed the line. They are absolutely fed up. We are being raped, Phyllis. You are condoning a rape. There are no moneys available to give these men this pay raise. We have got people begging in the streets. We got kids uneducated. We got kids going to school without food. And we're talking about giving these boys another $50,000. And for what purpose?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=544.72,566.23"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e First of all, there are men and women in Congress. And the fact is that this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=566.65,570.22"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Is not a gender issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=570.34,571.12"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the point is, is that they're both in Congress, so let's acknowledge that. The point is that these men and women do a service and do a job. We may not agree with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=571.99,580.6"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They do a service seven months a year. And with all due respect to our Bush administration representative.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=580.69,586.54"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It has nothing to do with the Bush administration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=587.98,590.35"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It has all to do with a Congress that only works when it gets down to the very end of the session. Before that, these boys are out in Hawaii. They're going around the world. They're using their free spas. They're traveling everywhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=592.0,604.63"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e CEOs of corporations don't do that. Are you telling me that these.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=605.8,609.37"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e CEOs are making money, they don't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=609.79,611.32"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Have to wear the same drugs and wave? And we appreciate your weight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=613.86,616.72"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I have been sitting down listening to you all blabbing off at the mouth. You preaching a message that nobody wants to hear. The fact is they deserve a raise. But the thing is, should they get it now? This we have financial problems in the country and they should be made to vote. Either I want it or I don't want it. We should not give it to them through the back door. But these people work and they do a good job and they need to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=616.87,645.97"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e There are two key things that must be injected into this conversation. One is the what epitomizes this whole debate is what a spokesman for Tony Coelho, the House majority whip, told the press, which was that Coelho's position is that no matter how great the public outcry and no matter how many members of the House are opposed to this pay raise in its size, scope or way it's being done, that it will become law on February 8th? Simple as that. That's one. Now, let's look at the make up of the Quadrennial Commission on page. And let's understand that this is a bunch of millionaires, a bunch of former congressmen and senators, a bunch of people who lobby for a living. A bunch of people who are part of this very imperial Washington that we're talking about. To think this is an objective look at congressional pay is nonsense. St George, what is your criteria that they are entitled to the money? 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He should have been strung up by his thumbs, stripped to the waist and flogged on primetime TV.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=841.08,851.04"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e New York doesn't have capital punishment. But I tell you something that may and should it should be gone. I just am. 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And it was preconceived what he did. It wasn't as though he decided this is what he was going to do this second. It was preconceived. He had a no spam. And by the way, I don't think she should get off. I think she's part of this. She could have walked out. 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She was an intelligent woman. She had a career before all this happened. 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I'm glad because for years people have been thinking that child abuse was a poverty problem, a black problem, a minority problem, a poor people's problem. These people were not poor, they were not uneducated, they were professional. And therefore we see that that child abuse is not a skin problem, it's a sin problem, and we need to deal with it like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=901.56,927.27"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e But you know something I never saw in anything that I read about this case, that there were psychological tests given him to Steinberg. And I really think that he is mentally incompetent a person and they're waiting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=927.48,939.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e For.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=940.14,940.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Judgment. All my I'm entitled to my.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=940.38,942.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And when should make that choice.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=943.92,945.36"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I wish there were these test taken that I knew about. You just don't feed a child unless something.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=945.51,951.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e May I point out something? Drugs, drugs, drugs, alcohol. You're right. And this mom was a junkie slave to Joel Steinberg, who was a drug dealer distributor and Guru And Drugs plays such an overlooked role in Steinberg.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=951.72,968.25"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Right about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=968.88,969.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That. She could have walked out with any time she wanted, but she never wanted to. We're blaming drugs. We blaming Rich. I don't know what we're blaming. But Lisa Steinberg, his death cries out for justice. We neutered the prosecutor when we did not make capital punishment. And option number two, manslaughter conviction. What? With all due respect, we have to allow in the courtroom a set a situation of compromise the prosecution needs to have in its corner the right to the death penalty. You're right. You take away the death penalty. It leaves it to compromise. It leaves two out of court settlements. It leaves a situation in which the prosecutor is paralyzed to function to the full extent of the law. 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Her body was bruised and on top of her head to the tips of her toes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1013.77,1020.75"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And he left. He left and went out to dinner the night that he did it. According to the accounts, I that man is going to be out in five years and I can't believe he will be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1021.47,1030.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Wise in the next five years. He'll be out in three. QUESTION It is nothing but I think of lack of respect of life for the weak, for the children, for the old and for the unborn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1030.589,1042.44"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Raises other questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1042.89,1043.49"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e It's a lack of respect to know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1044.15,1045.66"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e About Joel Steinberg's pattern of abuse, of head of Nussbaum and of the adopted children, and who did not raise a cry, who did not who did not say stop, who did not get the authorities involved. There was an unspoken complicity there among people who ostensibly were educated and ostensibly were decent citizens, and who in the end to run, with all due respect, there are there's blame to throw around everyone. There needs to be a law, a federal law enacted that simply says that when death results as a consequence of child abuse, that in fact the death penalty should be an option for the prosecution. I believe at that point we'll begin to see child abusers terminated and indeed, where we're going to see a problem resolved in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1046.04,1089.39"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. On another trial this week, another case, Bruce Campbell, the Olympic star gold medalist who was not in the last Olympics. But in any case, he was involved in a drunk driving accident in Florida. He plowed into a group of children. Two of them were killed. He has been sentenced now to 17 years in prison. He'll have to serve at least five. Yeah, a third of that, a little more than five. Now, I said in the green room, You think that's extensive?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1089.63,1112.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it was excessive. I think that the fact that they. Knew he was drunk. The fact that they knew that he I don't think he would have just gone out and done that. I think that he should have gone to jail. But I think to give a young man with his talents. A man who obviously was repentant. 17 years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1113.39,1133.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Tell that to the three year old self, to the teenagers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1133.51,1135.79"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e And their parents. I'm saying I believe that he should pay for it when jail. 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This in the jail.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1156.94,1159.61"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Many things. Many things in life, right or wrong are a matter of circumstance and timing. 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Two teenage children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1200.65,1212.14"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e The fact is that he killed them, that these people who are known in the community and in society are the ones who are going to get the steepest penalties because we look at them as heroes or as fallen heroes ordinarily at. Right. But the point is that when we have someone like like he is well known an Olympic chairman, I championship, I just can't believe that they would give him anything less. There are children dead. How about the families? How about if he comes out in jail from jail and he goes to the next children's group to teach them about drugs and not drinking alcohol? 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Are you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1257.39,1258.76"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Sure? It is unfortunate in that case, but not as unfortunate as as the children.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1258.88,1262.93"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Who are the final minute or so. We just want to turn to something light, and that is that there is a move afoot by the nation's airlines to hire older flight attendants now. And there was an article in USA Today flight attendants in their forties fifties, this one flying for Delta has been flying for 42 years. She is 64 years old. No longer do they do they have to be women? No longer do they have to be young women. No longer can they not be married. No longer can they not have children. The times have changed in the sky. And how do you feel about that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1263.29,1292.18"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, actually, Eastern Airlines has been having older flight attendants for a number of years. I frankly happen to like the young people on the on the airlines as flight attendants. But, look, I think older people have a better sense of responsibility, to be honest with you. I was on a flight two days ago and I had three young people, flight attendants on it. They couldn't have cared less. They were so busy talking about what they were going to do when they went overnight in Boston that I just I mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1292.33,1321.58"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Did they include you at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1321.94,1322.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Least?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1322.78,1322.78"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, since I'm in the older category, I have. 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I find.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1330.37,1331.24"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It British.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1331.57,1331.69"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Airways.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1332.05,1332.05"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yeah. British Airways is the best inflight it has. I find it ironic that in the days when when flying in airplanes was a very glamorous thing, was a high class thing, that it was then the young, beautiful people who were the flight attendants, young, beautiful women, young, very attractive women. And now now that it's sort of a job that has more schlepping the glamor to it, now they're letting the all this there's a more serious message we're missing. One of the criteria for choosing younger women was that in an emergency, the young women would be better able to assist in the evacuation of an airplane. Are the. Oh, that is correct. That they have the ability to swim. The ability to take care of these people getting down slide. It was all a matter of younger people. 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But wait, I can't swim.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1381.73,1384.4"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm sorry I had another time. Keep it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1384.73,1388.15"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Hold on. Here's the letter from Ellsberg. This is from Larry. How many at the new writer Larry Bell writes about our abortion discussion. Last week, you announced that Roe versus Wade was going to be discussed and then you era a half hour pro-abortion rally to ban abortion was so hard to come by when your panelists were in the womb.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1530.77,1547.84"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 4:\u003c/strong\u003e Hello, Larry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786#t=1548.29,1548.62"},{"id":"https://marmia.aviaryplatform.com/collections/948/collection_resources/119038/file/223786/transcript/62914/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you, Larry. Here is a letter now on Capital punishment from Joanne Haynes of Cumberland, Maryland, who writes, I am getting sick and tired of murderers pleading temporary insanity. They should all be executed temporarily. We'd like very much to hear from you. Here's our address. We love your letters. Please send them to Suave WG, TV, Television, Hill, Baltimore, Maryland. Two, one, two, one, one. And stay tuned for the lotto. We will all be back. Looking forward to see you again next Saturday night when once again, we square off. Good night, everybody. Hi, everybody. Coming up in just a moment, on square off, the congressional pay raise will go into effect next week. A lot of controversy here on the panel. Also about Joel Stein verdict of manslaughter. St George cast, Peter Waldron, Phyllis Robbins and Ron Smith are standing by to square off after these messages here on Channel four. 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